Guild Wars News: Bots Banned

SAQ

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2006

Melbourne/Taipei

Radicals Against Tyrants

N/

06 Jun 2006 at 04:40 - 241
Quote:
Originally Posted by Absolut Monk
My only advice SAQ is to be honest and upfront with the support team. If they have an actual time of an infraction, then it seems your account is guilty regardless of your or someone elses actions.

As for "playing a few days after 17/5", that's not an indication of when you were marked for banning. The last massive trade I had made was a week ago, and I wasn't banned until June 3rd.
The thing is I am being accused of something I did not do, and I don't even think someone had hacked my account and did something with it.

What I am saying is that they are accusing me of something which have not happened (I don't trade with other players FULL STOP, I play by myself and sometimes with my brother who's account is still fine), and I don't know why they have a log of me doing something at that time.

If someone actually hacked into my account and did those deeds, then they need to give me a chance to change my password and let me play on. I don't download 3rd party program or any stupid programs.

I am innocent.

Akhilleus

Akhilleus

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2005

If it aint expensive, it aint worth buyin'.

Leading/Co-leading Bretheren Of Chaos [Dark]

W/Mo

06 Jun 2006 at 04:47 - 242
seeing as how my main account was banned at about this time...and i can assure you i would never be retarded enough to touch a bot program...it makes me wonder how many of those 1,000 accounts were actually botters...especially since there seem to be plenty of botters left in GW.

Leighwyn

Leighwyn

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2005

Seattle

Limbo

Mo/E

06 Jun 2006 at 07:15 - 243
It's a good thing I trained my hampster to hit the exact combination of keys required to farm the elona minotaurs, since the EULA says nothing about 3rd-party animals assisting you.

burai

burai

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2005

Fishermen's Haven

W/

06 Jun 2006 at 08:15 - 244
This may have already been mentioned previously, but I couldn't see it. So here's my two pennies worth.

When will Anet introduce the long-awaited auction house? Surely this will put an end to botting (I guess anyone trying to auction gold would be easy to spot).

Of course I may just missing an obvious loophole

Please enlighten me.

Darkron

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: May 2006

StarCainam

W/E

06 Jun 2006 at 10:56 - 245
Good news all, Arlan has been rinstated, without any reason given or any nature of apology at all. I suppose at least Arlan has been let back in, the good news for other is that if Arlan has been reinstated after being wrongfully banned then so can you. I would reccommend at the very least being civil, as mentioned above, these guiys are trying to do a job, and even though they never seem to accept any culpability for any mistakes in their (extensive) background checks, they obviously do get things wrong (to err is human and all of that). Thankfully they will listen to reason, eventually, and once the error of thier ways is repeatedly pointed out to them you have a chance of getting reinstated.

Arangja

Arangja

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2006

Namibia, Africa

SCARS MEADOWS [SMS]

06 Jun 2006 at 11:11 - 246
Well done and grz to Absolute Monk and Arlan for being back in the game

As Absolute Monk said, they are trying to do their job too, yes its bad that inocents get banned, but at least they are reinstating the correct accounts, and they are trying to make Guild Wars a better place for us all to play in

Also awaiting the auction house whoo hoo

Welcome back guys

SAQ

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2006

Melbourne/Taipei

Radicals Against Tyrants

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06 Jun 2006 at 11:17 - 247
Good news for you guys, hopefully I can hear good news for myself.

Yes I know they are doing their job, but being falsly accused makes me feel really down.

Arangja

Arangja

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2006

Namibia, Africa

SCARS MEADOWS [SMS]

06 Jun 2006 at 11:21 - 248
SAQ have you tried to contact GW directly, from what I can see here is that both Absolute Monk & Arlan contacted them directly, maybe you can try to open a ticket from the GW website to see if that might speed things up.

As we saw with Absolute Monk & Arlan that if you are inocent they will reinstate your account, yes I know it sucks being falsley accused and it also sucks being reinstated without an appology.

Keep the faith m8, & keep us posted

Loviatar

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Feb 2005

06 Jun 2006 at 15:51 - 249
Quote:
Originally Posted by Darkron
you will see that I was not posting about Absolut, I was speaking of Arlan, a member of our Guild who was banned incorrectly and was recently reinstated, HE RECEIVED NO NATURE OF APOLOGY OR RESPONSE when they readmitted him. .
post deleted with my own apologies and a short stint of reading comprehension 101 as well

my uber mistake on not catching the identity on that

Energizer Deth Buni

Banned

Join Date: Jan 2006

Near Atlanta GA

MVoA

N/Me

06 Jun 2006 at 16:06 - 250
Hey why dont they take out the AFK bots that are leeching Faction at Ft Aspenwood...

Night Daftshadow

Night Daftshadow

Banned

Join Date: May 2005

In the forest

Hidden Shadows

R/Mo

06 Jun 2006 at 17:09 - 251
It's a plague. One of the recent updates banned thousands of bot accounts. Much help that did
They all came back. Well, I guess the Ebayers are still happy since they know they can still buy gold. Without these bots, there will be no gold to buy. I can forsee it, one day Guild Wars is completely free of bots and everyone has crapo looking armor and only the few can dawn 15k armor and not to mention FoW armor.

Arlan

Arlan

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2005

FaT

Mo/

06 Jun 2006 at 20:35 - 252
Hi

OK - first - thanks for the support from all over (several other 'tickets' opened on my behalf / on line petition (tks Dark)/various help and advise on threads such as this -

I got my account reinstated recently - about three weeks after being banned - during which i updated my ticket every few days requesting info/action/anything :-) - the responses were few and far between to be honest ...........

I have since been carrying on the conversation with NCsoft - because the first response since reinstatment was to just say that my account "was closed in error. "
After a bit of pushing for more info i receieved one to say '"that my charactor had been observed by a Moderator behaving in a automated fashion" - thereby leading them to believe i was controlled by a third party program.

OK - so what sort of 'automated behaviour' i hear you ask - so of course - not wanting to be caught out again i did ask the question - and they witnessed " suspicious and repetative bahviour"

That is it - that is what you all have to avoid 'suspicious and repetative behaviour'.............................
I presume this means going to the merchant 5 times in a few minutes / keep running into walls or obsticles -------- could be alot of things i suppose.

I also remember getting a few whispers at times which i ignored because i was busy or just being rude - this could also be a Moderator 'testing' if you are a live player. So - answer all whispers/chat as well - even if it's a one word reply.

Keep up the pressure SAQ and good luck.

If anyone wants any info / advice please send me a PM -
--- or get me in game - Arlan Tempus --not you SAQ!! -- or leave message on Guild Website - WWW.Starcainam.com


Off to kill things now -


Arlan

(never trust a dwarf with learning difficulties.........it's not big and it's not clever!!!)

SAQ

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2006

Melbourne/Taipei

Radicals Against Tyrants

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07 Jun 2006 at 03:17 - 253
Quote:
Originally Posted by Arangja
SAQ have you tried to contact GW directly, from what I can see here is that both Absolute Monk & Arlan contacted them directly, maybe you can try to apen a ticket from the GW website to see if theat might speed things up.

As we saw with Absolute Monk & Arlan that if you are inocent they will reinstate your account, yes I know it sucks being falsley accused and it also sucks being reinstated without an appology.

Keep the faith m8, & keep us posted
I haven't contacted GW directly because I bought my GW in Taiwan and I was doing through the NCSOFT GMs in Chinese and then they transfer/translate(?) what I said to American GW GMs.
I guess I will wait a few more days from the reply, then I will get a ticket myself and try to contact American GW GMs. Since I believe some of my feelings and thoughts were lost in the translation and my English is better than my Chinese..

Quote:
Originally Posted by Arlan
Snip
I probably will accept being accused of "looking like all other 55 Mo/W" or "suspicious and repetative behaviour" rather than "trading with an Ebayer".

Since I admit, I was in Droknars International District using my Mo/W to buy some Prophecy skills (Canthan char) who is not a 55 (She doesn't have any sup rune or -50 off-hand).

I also admit I farm in a weird fashion, which may be suspicious of looking like a bot because I dual farm with my Brother, and one of us plays the supporting role (which is mostly what I do since my char is new and lvl 18 only), who does nothing but heals from far away (while the other one engages), follows around and picks up loot.

But definitely not trading with an Ebayer which apparently my account is branded with now...

Arangja

Arangja

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2006

Namibia, Africa

SCARS MEADOWS [SMS]

07 Jun 2006 at 07:32 - 254
SAQ keep at it my friend, you have our support or mine at least

As we saw there might have been quite a few error banns but in this forum alone we aready have two sucess stories and I'm sure you will be the 3rd
Alarn had to wait what was it 3 weeks or more, lol I feel sorry for the poor monsters in his area right now, they are gonna taste some serious metal lmao.

Anyway all I wanted to say to you SAQ is keep at it, keep pushing and the right outcome will prevail

ArTy

ArTy

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2006

Australia

Overclockers Australia [OCAU]

07 Jun 2006 at 13:03 - 255
Great to only a few Mo/W's at Elona. Anet is still working at it removing ze scum!

TheProject

TheProject

Academy Page

Join Date: Jun 2006

In a box

The Living Hell Pheonix

Mo/Me

07 Jun 2006 at 18:14 - 256
Still think they should've given the banned people a perfect crystalline weapon.

>.>
<.<
>.<

And my brother deleted the game after I told him it would get the account banned

lyra_song

lyra_song

Hell's Protector

Join Date: Oct 2005

R/Mo

07 Jun 2006 at 18:30 - 257
Quote:
Originally Posted by SAQ
I also admit I farm in a weird fashion, which may be suspicious of looking like a bot because I dual farm with my Brother, and one of us plays the supporting role (which is mostly what I do since my char is new and lvl 18 only), who does nothing but heals from far away (while the other one engages), follows around and picks up loot.
You and your brother wouldnt happen to be sharing an ISP now would you?

Two accounts, same ISP, farms together all day. Hmn...that could look suspicious o.o

Tickle

Tickle

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Feb 2006

P/

07 Jun 2006 at 21:17 - 258
Updating my banned account, Finally NCSoft has contacted me (this is always a good sign), its taken more than a week but at least the wheels are in motion now. Supplied them with all relevant information they asked, I guess the ball is in their court now.
Congratulations to Arlan, hopefully I wont be too far away from getting reinstated also.
NCSoft did say they were sorry for the delay as they are processing more and more tickets of late. Perhaps the support team would be advised to contact those with tickets telling them of the delay instead of keeping them in suspense as this would reassure the people that yes it has been processed and yes it will be dealt with in a certain time frame (even suggest that there could be a week stand down period before the ticket gets dealt with). It was very frustrating not knowing what was happening and just this simple means would put peoples mind at easy knowing that it will get processed in due time.
I'm sure the NCSoft support team have alot on their plate at the moment with all the recent bannings but being in a customer support role at my work I also know that you deal with customer issues straight away (even if its some blatant @sshole (like myself)). :P
But regardless, I'm just happy that I've received a reply at this stage.

{integral}

{integral}

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Sep 2005

Just down the road.

Mo/

07 Jun 2006 at 22:05 - 259
What I fail to see is how ArenaNet can make these fundamental errors. If they really do carry out a 'deep analysis' before they wave their somewhat cumbersome banstick, why are they falsely banning accounts? We need somebody, perhaps from the Department of Bans, to come here and tell us, without beating around the bush, why it is they manage to make such crashing mistakes.

The other thing that annoys me about all this is that ArenaNet (according to some guff on their website loosely related to the EULA) refuse, point blank, to give an implicit warning directly to the player. Instead, they wave their stick around some more and expect you to realise exactly what you've done wrong, if indeed you have done something wrong (which is looking less and less likely as time goes on), by being given a short ban.

Of course, I dislike botters. But I maintain the stance that the failure to catch any number of botters is better than the false banning of a legitimate player. If you can't be 100% certain that the account you're investigating is a bot, don't ban it. It's as simple as that. And if the account you were 100% certain was a bot turns out to be innocent, you weren't 100% certain. No computer program is going to catch botters only. You need to hire a crack team of sleuths. And change your warning system would help a lot too.

One other thing - the automated emails. Yes, I appreciate there's only so many emails people can read and reply to in a day. But sending emails which say 'we will not be accepting appeals in cases such as this' to innocent players is giving out the message that you don't care about them. And we all know you do care. Most of the time, a botter won't bother appealing because he will know he is in the wrong.

So please, give us an answer to the question that's on everybody's lips:

Why are so many innocent players being wrongfully banned, and what are you going to do to stop this happening?

Because this has to stop.

P.S. And to reinstate somebody's account without even a hint of an apology is just plain rude. By anybody's standards.

generik

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2005

07 Jun 2006 at 22:57 - 260
Quote:
Originally Posted by {integral}

Because this has to stop.
Why is that the case?

Who are you to dictate to Anet, oh Almighty, what they can and can't do?

Read the EULA sometimes

14. TERMINATION.

(a) NC Interactive reserves the right to suspend or terminate this Agreement (including your Software license and your Account) immediately and without notice if you breach this Agreement or willfully infringe any third party intellectual property rights, or if we are unable to verify or authenticate any information you provide to us, or upon game play, chat or any player activity whatsoever which is, in our sole discretion, inappropriate and/or in violation of the spirit of Guild Wars as described in the Rules of Conduct.

Should NC Interactive decide to suspend or terminate this Agreement with a User under any circumstances, the User will lose access to your Account.

(b) You agree that if the Service or your Account is suspended, terminated or cancelled for any reason or length of time, you are not entitled to any reimbursement or refund of any fees or unused access time.

You agreed to it. Disagree? Write to your MP someday about the ills of EULAs someday perhaps.

SAQ

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2006

Melbourne/Taipei

Radicals Against Tyrants

N/

08 Jun 2006 at 02:49 - 261
Quote:
Originally Posted by lyra_song
You and your brother wouldnt happen to be sharing an ISP now would you?

Two accounts, same ISP, farms together all day. Hmn...that could look suspicious o.o
It's pretty common for family/friends to live under one roof and have them all playing GW, playing missions and even farm. So I don't see why I will be anywhere more suspcious farming with my brother (I don't farm often either, my banned account has no more than 20k ever, that's how poor I am and I started in Feb this year).

Quote:
Originally Posted by generik
Why is that the case?

Who are you to dictate to Anet, oh Almighty, what they can and can't do?

Read the EULA sometimes

14. TERMINATION.

(a) NC Interactive reserves the right to suspend or terminate this Agreement (including your Software license and your Account) immediately and without notice if you breach this Agreement or willfully infringe any third party intellectual property rights, or if we are unable to verify or authenticate any information you provide to us, or upon game play, chat or any player activity whatsoever which is, in our sole discretion, inappropriate and/or in violation of the spirit of Guild Wars as described in the Rules of Conduct.

Should NC Interactive decide to suspend or terminate this Agreement with a User under any circumstances, the User will lose access to your Account.

(b) You agree that if the Service or your Account is suspended, terminated or cancelled for any reason or length of time, you are not entitled to any reimbursement or refund of any fees or unused access time.

You agreed to it. Disagree? Write to your MP someday about the ills of EULAs someday perhaps.
All software companies has this agreement thing so they can get away with anything. To play the game you have to accept, it's pretty lame, and that's what Integral is talking about, Anet gave themselves the right to do anything, which shouldn't be like that.

Especially when they made a fault and banned innocent players for their mistake and makes no apologies because they are GOD..

burai

burai

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2005

Fishermen's Haven

W/

08 Jun 2006 at 07:24 - 262
Quote:
Originally Posted by generik
Who are you to dictate to Anet, oh Almighty, what they can and can't do?
Of course you are absolutely correct - we have no 'rights' at all. However, for good public relations and continued community support, they should strive to ensure that this doesn't happen. At the end of the day, they cannot survive without our support.

I would have thought we the GW community, should at least have some sympathy when a fellow gamer is unjustly banned – and not just shove the legal crap down their throat.

Just because it's not legally wrong, doesn't make it right.

EDIT: The final irony. How much of the retail cost of the game goes towards paying these legal jerks? We're paying your wages people!

Disclaimer:
Any reference to ‘legal jerks’ is entirely fictitious, and any resemblance to persons living or dead is purely coincidental.

{integral}

{integral}

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Sep 2005

Just down the road.

Mo/

08 Jun 2006 at 07:26 - 263
Quote:
Originally Posted by generik
Why is that the case?

Who are you to dictate to Anet, oh Almighty, what they can and can't do?

Read the EULA sometimes

14. TERMINATION.

(a) NC Interactive reserves the right to suspend or terminate this Agreement (including your Software license and your Account) immediately and without notice if you breach this Agreement or willfully infringe any third party intellectual property rights, or if we are unable to verify or authenticate any information you provide to us, or upon game play, chat or any player activity whatsoever which is, in our sole discretion, inappropriate and/or in violation of the spirit of Guild Wars as described in the Rules of Conduct.

Should NC Interactive decide to suspend or terminate this Agreement with a User under any circumstances, the User will lose access to your Account.

(b) You agree that if the Service or your Account is suspended, terminated or cancelled for any reason or length of time, you are not entitled to any reimbursement or refund of any fees or unused access time.

You agreed to it. Disagree? Write to your MP someday about the ills of EULAs someday perhaps.
I do not disagree with the EULA per se. And indeed, these things are written for the sole purpose of being able to get away with anything they want to do. This is why they have a purposefully ambiguous description of what constitutes an infringement - 'in our sole discretion'. That means that they can do pretty much anything they want if you're breaking the rules. I'm not repudiating that. I don't disagree that they should put that clause in, or they could get themselves in all sorts of unpleasant legal situations. What I disagree with is the banning of players who cannot by any stretch of the imagination be in infringement of the EULA/Rules of Conduct becuase they have not done anything wrong. Don't you feel the same way?

To reiterate the poster above me: It may be legally sound, but it's morally wrong.

It's not good for Community Relations, or for the company as a whole, to be banning innocent players, sending brusque emails to them when they ask for their accounts back, and reinstating their accounts without a hint of an apology. Is it?

Sagius Truthbarron

Sagius Truthbarron

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2005

Animal Factory [ZoO]

A/

08 Jun 2006 at 07:41 - 264
Quote:
Originally Posted by Opeth11
If that's the case, ANet should promote botting!
I know alot of nice people that bot. They need to eat too. Don't ban them, give them free money

{integral}

{integral}

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Sep 2005

Just down the road.

Mo/

08 Jun 2006 at 07:47 - 265
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sagius Truthbarron
I know alot of nice people that bot. They need to eat too. Don't ban them, give them free money
Yeah, but it kinda... spoils the entire game and its economy for everyone who is willing to get their money the honest way. Just because the people you know are nice doesn't mean they're not in breach of the EULA. They deserve a ban, be it temporary, to serve as a warning, or permanent for frequent use.

Arangja

Arangja

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2006

Namibia, Africa

SCARS MEADOWS [SMS]

08 Jun 2006 at 10:16 - 266
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sagius Truthbarron
I know alot of nice people that bot. They need to eat too. Don't ban them, give them free money
Dude it's because of bots that the economy is where it is
The EULA states clearly you are not supposed to bot, if you do or the ppl you know then yea, they deserve to be banned. Also why do they need to bot to enjoy the game, can't they just beat the game like everyone else with something called SKILL, if not then maybe they should not be playing this game in any case.

Why run around with 1000's in your account when you can rather use some of your money or stuff you don't need to help a fellow guild mate that is starting a character.

Then if you have set yourselve a goal then isn't it so much sweeter if you achieve that goal honestly?? I decided to start a necro a while ago and saw the end game armor (Canthian) and I really liked it, also there is a staff there that is better than Bortak's Bone Staff (in my opinion) that i wanted to get.

I had to work to get all the money and resources together for the armor, then I had to work to get faction points to continue past a sertain stage and then I had to work my azz of to get the staff (and no I did not buy the staff) I went out there and battled the boss untill he droped it for me.

All that at the end made it worth my while, when I look and say yea I had these goal for this character and I achieved them

Slainster

Slainster

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Feb 2006

08 Jun 2006 at 11:41 - 267
I agree.. bots are not on, keep up the work Anet

Tickle

Tickle

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Feb 2006

P/

12 Jun 2006 at 23:21 - 268
As NCSoft go through the process of finding out why my account was banned I sit patiently at home still wondering why I was banned in the first place. I've done my bit by providing them with all the relevant information but I really do wish they would act faster. I've sent them 15+ emails on this matter and have received 3 replies back.
I keep wondering to myself, "If NCSoft was in the line of business I'm in then I wouldn't need to worry about them as a threat to my business because already they have proven that customer service isn't quite their forte."
:P
Hopefully the next update I post will include the words "I have been reinstated."
Will let the GWG community know the moment I receive word from the support team.
Signing off for now..

SAQ

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2006

Melbourne/Taipei

Radicals Against Tyrants

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13 Jun 2006 at 01:53 - 269
Tickle why were you banned? What's the reason they gave you?

I was banned for in-game trading with someone/myself that sell for real money. Which is the last thing I do. My account is new and 90% of the things I sell to NPC merchants, and 10% I give it to my brother's account (who is playing by EULA and is still playing). I am also very poor with crappy items.

So I don't know who the heck I traded to get myself banned.. the NPC merchant?!??

Oh I've given up on NCSoft Taiwan, now trying to talk to a GM from plaync.

Tickle

Tickle

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Feb 2006

P/

13 Jun 2006 at 22:28 - 270
Hello,

Thank you for contact Guild Wars Support.
Upon further review of the issue, it appears that your account was blocked in error. Your account is now released and you should be able to log in to Guild Wars. I apologize for any inconvenience this may have caused.

Take care,
The Guild Wars Support Team

Keep up the fight SAQ, although I'm happy to be back ingame I'm also sad for the others out there that are going through the same process. Downtime of 3 weeks.. Perhaps they saw that I've played for over 2000 hours and decided I needed a break, I don't know.

The intention was good by Anet but perhaps a bit overzealous, more caution should be taken by the banning department when blocking accounts (just my 2 cents worth (I think I'm entitled to it)).

SAQ

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2006

Melbourne/Taipei

Radicals Against Tyrants

N/

14 Jun 2006 at 01:38 - 271
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tickle
Hello,

Thank you for contact Guild Wars Support.
Upon further review of the issue, it appears that your account was blocked in error. Your account is now released and you should be able to log in to Guild Wars. I apologize for any inconvenience this may have caused.

Take care,
The Guild Wars Support Team

Keep up the fight SAQ, although I'm happy to be back ingame I'm also sad for the others out there that are going through the same process. Downtime of 3 weeks.. Perhaps they saw that I've played for over 2000 hours and decided I needed a break, I don't know.

The intention was good by Anet but perhaps a bit overzealous, more caution should be taken by the banning department when blocking accounts (just my 2 cents worth (I think I'm entitled to it)).
Yes, I got the same reply too, my account is released, but I cannot confirm yet, since I am at work.

I have 3 accounts, so I was still playing GW, but not with much interest though.

Great, now the joke on me is gone

Maybe soon, my PvP account will be branded as a farmer!? That'll be the day I think I'll quit GW...

ubermancer

ubermancer

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2005

******************* Refuge From Exile [RFE]

17 Jun 2006 at 10:50 - 272
I for one am glad that I will never see another botter. Now, when I go to Elona's Reach, I see only honest, hard-working, asians. Such as these, inconspiciously stopped at the exact same location to speak to the merchant:



(screenshot taken around 5 minutes ago)

Doomlord_Slayermann

Doomlord_Slayermann

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2005

Chicago IL

Dark Phoenix Risin [DPR]

W/P

17 Jun 2006 at 15:25 - 273
Quote:
Originally Posted by ubermancer
I for one am glad that I will never see another botter. Now, when I go to Elona's Reach, I see only honest, hard-working, asians. Such as these, inconspiciously stopped at the exact same location to speak to the merchant:



(screenshot taken around 5 minutes ago)
If you look closely, there IS that one evil Mo/Me farmer in the horde of noble monks...

ubermancer

ubermancer

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2005

******************* Refuge From Exile [RFE]

17 Jun 2006 at 19:38 - 274
Quote:
Originally Posted by Doomlord_Slayermann
If you look closely, there IS that one evil Mo/Me farmer in the horde of noble monks...
Who used the same, inhuman pathing to get to that odd nook on the right side of the merch...

Quote:
Originally Posted by burkai
Just because it's not legally wrong, doesn't make it right.
Similiarly, just because its not legal, doesn't make it wrong.

{integral}

{integral}

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Sep 2005

Just down the road.

Mo/

17 Jun 2006 at 19:47 - 275
Quote:
Originally Posted by ubermancer
Similiarly, just because its not legal, doesn't make it wrong.
I don't see what that has to do with anything...

Gaile Gray

Gaile Gray

ArenaNet

Join Date: Feb 2005

17 Jun 2006 at 20:25 - 276
What can I say except to repeat: Guild Wars -- Bots Banned Daily.

shadowfell

shadowfell

hamonite anur ruk

Join Date: Jan 2006

Echovald Forest

[PhD] Teh Academy

Me/A

17 Jun 2006 at 21:57 - 277
And for every one of them banned, 2-3 more take their place. You can stand in any trade district and see a bot, no less, spamming:

W TB -50 cesta 6k 1
W TB -50 cesta 6k 2
W TB -50 cesta 6k 3
W TB -50 cesta 6k 4
W TB -50 cesta 6k 5


They aren't buying them to make the ultimate -50 cesta collection. Would be nice if AN removed that item...

Doomlord_Slayermann

Doomlord_Slayermann

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2005

Chicago IL

Dark Phoenix Risin [DPR]

W/P

18 Jun 2006 at 02:22 - 278
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gaile Gray
What can I say except to repeat: Guild Wars -- Bots Banned Daily.
The problem is not that ArenaNet does not act upon the usage of bots. The problem is that even though ArenaNet does take action, botting remains in action. This is because almost all of the hardcore botters are farmers who sell their earnings for real money and despite the occasional loss of an account, the botting remains profitable. The only real way to stop botting effectively is to eliminate the botters' profit margin, i.e. making them loose money due to the number of accounts they must repurchase due to banning. This may involve more active methods on ArenaNet's part (such as impersonating a gold buyer to find the "bot" account rings) but it would most certainly get rid of the bots.

Doofledust

Doofledust

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2006

19 Jun 2006 at 17:30 - 279
It looks like other games are taking action against 'bots and the like.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/2207229.stm

JoeKnowMo

JoeKnowMo

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Oct 2005

Wessst Siiide, USA

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25 Jun 2006 at 19:15 - 280
Quote:
Originally Posted by ubermancer
I for one am glad that I will never see another botter. Now, when I go to Elona's Reach, I see only honest, hard-working, asians. Such as these, inconspiciously stopped at the exact same location to speak to the merchant:



(screenshot taken around 5 minutes ago)
Your screenie musta gummed up the works. Whenever I go to Elona Intl, all I see is your screenshot.