new Title: The Quitter
Maria The Princess
I am tired of people leaving groups.....
today: in B/P tombs run, a MM necro quit on lvl 3 because he got into an argument with the monk who was healing minions. so he ragequit, then evreybody elese did. ok whatever, it happens...
But, in Dragon's Lair, we start as a group of 7 and Aleisa. by the end of land 2 the monk leaves. after this the tank leaves. anyays, by the end of land 3 it was: me (warior), my guildie (ranger) and a Nuker + Aleisa. surprisingly we finished the run...
yey for us, but in othr accasions, those quitters are just waisting everybodys time, be cuase everybody either quits or we all have to go back to outpust to look for somebody new. if you want to skill cap ONLY, or try to 55 a group of mesmers and necros, get a group of henchies or guildies, and dont lie that you will stay for mission/bonus.
my idea:
make a quitter title. from beggining of game, you have 25 times (EDIT: maby 50?) to MAP out of a Coop Mission (not including quests, and full henchman partys, or everybody being dead and returning automaticly). after u used up your 25 times, (which should be more then enouth), you get a permanenet "Quitter" title that is stuck to you, you cant hide it, and the only way to reset it is to do 10 or 15 Coop missions with the bonuses from A to Z.
maby this will improve the quiters situation. i know its not perfect, but hey! maby with some comments and development it can become a decent idea
today: in B/P tombs run, a MM necro quit on lvl 3 because he got into an argument with the monk who was healing minions. so he ragequit, then evreybody elese did. ok whatever, it happens...
But, in Dragon's Lair, we start as a group of 7 and Aleisa. by the end of land 2 the monk leaves. after this the tank leaves. anyays, by the end of land 3 it was: me (warior), my guildie (ranger) and a Nuker + Aleisa. surprisingly we finished the run...
yey for us, but in othr accasions, those quitters are just waisting everybodys time, be cuase everybody either quits or we all have to go back to outpust to look for somebody new. if you want to skill cap ONLY, or try to 55 a group of mesmers and necros, get a group of henchies or guildies, and dont lie that you will stay for mission/bonus.
my idea:
make a quitter title. from beggining of game, you have 25 times (EDIT: maby 50?) to MAP out of a Coop Mission (not including quests, and full henchman partys, or everybody being dead and returning automaticly). after u used up your 25 times, (which should be more then enouth), you get a permanenet "Quitter" title that is stuck to you, you cant hide it, and the only way to reset it is to do 10 or 15 Coop missions with the bonuses from A to Z.
maby this will improve the quiters situation. i know its not perfect, but hey! maby with some comments and development it can become a decent idea
Aki Soyokaze
Usually people get into pugs because they either are unwilling or can't finish the mission with henchmen. And if this is the case who is going to take someone that is unfortunate enough to get a 'quiter' title? I mean, you might say that they deserve it because they 'quit' 25 times. But should that really count towards people who end up being in a bad group and someone wants to be a jerk so they leave? Should it count towards people who left because they would've had to deal with someone who went afk and wanted a free ride? Should it count towards people who have to leave because the one henchie gets snagged and can't move?
And of course there are legit reasons as to why people leave groups. Some people have obligations that they have to tend to; and while it should be common sense that you don't start a mission or quest unless you have the time, sometimes things pop up. And some things are just unavoidable such as 'mom pulls the plug on the comp,' or 'you have to pick up the kids from school,' or 'you have to go to work,' etc. etc.
And where would that leave people? Some people might get the 'quitter' title and never be allowed to join a group, which would leave people stuck if they 'have' to do co-op mission in order to remove it.
So while I do agree that it's very aggravating to have people quit, I just see too many problems that could arise if this were implimented.
/notsigned
And of course there are legit reasons as to why people leave groups. Some people have obligations that they have to tend to; and while it should be common sense that you don't start a mission or quest unless you have the time, sometimes things pop up. And some things are just unavoidable such as 'mom pulls the plug on the comp,' or 'you have to pick up the kids from school,' or 'you have to go to work,' etc. etc.
And where would that leave people? Some people might get the 'quitter' title and never be allowed to join a group, which would leave people stuck if they 'have' to do co-op mission in order to remove it.
So while I do agree that it's very aggravating to have people quit, I just see too many problems that could arise if this were implimented.
/notsigned
Maria The Princess
ok it might have to be l\more then 25 times. lets say... 50 times. how many "things poping up" can u possibly get while we all have only 25 missions in Tyria and 13 (?) in Cantha? out of all my game play experience, when some1 leaves or goes afk we all just die, return to outpoust and restart. unless we are far enouth, but then nobody realy quits. it doesn thave to be exact as i said, but having a "threath" of getting a title like this might make ppl think twice before getting in a 1 hour misison while having only 15 min availble. i mean, 50 times should be more then enouth for "stuff poping up".
and to remove the title, they can just use henchman... in easy noobs missions. just for the fact of time waist so they know hoe we all (victims of leavers) feel
and to remove the title, they can just use henchman... in easy noobs missions. just for the fact of time waist so they know hoe we all (victims of leavers) feel
Fitz Rinley
I am more concerned with female players who may end up feeling trapped in a party with someone who displays inappropriate behavior. Will this happen 25 or 50 times in a players game? Not for all, but maybe for some. I know a player who used to use the /sit when she went afk, til she returned and found another player doing the warrior dance to her face. Should she have the right to map (as well as report)? I have joined parties after advertising I needed bonus, only to find out as we neared the mission end point they never ahd any intention of doing bonus when they invited me. They only wanted to use my skills. Should I have a right to be angry and quit?
The only place I would like to see a map lock-down is in PvP events. And see the AI take over the charcter if there is a disconnect. Then allow the player to resume control of their account when the match is over.
Fitz
The only place I would like to see a map lock-down is in PvP events. And see the AI take over the charcter if there is a disconnect. Then allow the player to resume control of their account when the match is over.
Fitz
Eviance
Maria I feel for ya hun and I think something like this could be worked in... I mean if its something that can be worked off like DP, then why not? But I think once you hit that mark it should stay. If that many things pop up there should be that many more times that NOTHING pops up and it should clear you up easily enough before hitting that mark. If you don't like the group or its a bad group or somethings lame... GO DIE SOMEWHERE! It's just that simple, go die and let them deal - they will either wipe or quit, either way it will put you back at square one and away from a quitter title.
The ONLY problem I could see happening is dealing with just you and a full team of henchies.... Quitting a group that way shouldn't be against you obviously.
There are other ways too of dealing with this sort of thing, time penalties before you can log back on after you do it so many times and so forth.
I have 3kids, I know stuff comes up but I usually don't play when stuff would normally come up so when stuff does come up, its rare.
Stuff happening shouldn't be that common!
*steps down from soap box*
And Fiz hun things like that also shouldn't happen commonly enough not to be able to get rid of what has incurred.
/signed for some way to deal with this by a victim of leavers!
The ONLY problem I could see happening is dealing with just you and a full team of henchies.... Quitting a group that way shouldn't be against you obviously.
There are other ways too of dealing with this sort of thing, time penalties before you can log back on after you do it so many times and so forth.
I have 3kids, I know stuff comes up but I usually don't play when stuff would normally come up so when stuff does come up, its rare.
Stuff happening shouldn't be that common!
*steps down from soap box*
And Fiz hun things like that also shouldn't happen commonly enough not to be able to get rid of what has incurred.
/signed for some way to deal with this by a victim of leavers!
BrotherGilburt
I would have to disagree with this. I know quiters are a problem but you shouldn't try to punish them for it.
Aki Soyokaze Is also very right. If you get the quiter title what are the odds that you'll get in a group. You wouldn't be able to remove it because you wouldn't be allowed in groups. I'm sorry to say that this method of punishing quiters is extremely unfair.
Aki Soyokaze is also right here. What if someone goes afk for a free ride. Should the rest of the group just give it to him. What if a runner is takeing people through elona reach fro 1k and someone refuses to pay at the end? Usually the whole party quits and starts over so the runner isn't scammed but if this title was placed in you couldn't do that. It would be forceing the runner to be scammed by some guy that doesn't want to pay.
There is no way to fairly punish people for quiting or even reconize who should be punished.
/notsigned
Brother Gilburt
Aki Soyokaze Is also very right. If you get the quiter title what are the odds that you'll get in a group. You wouldn't be able to remove it because you wouldn't be allowed in groups. I'm sorry to say that this method of punishing quiters is extremely unfair.
Aki Soyokaze is also right here. What if someone goes afk for a free ride. Should the rest of the group just give it to him. What if a runner is takeing people through elona reach fro 1k and someone refuses to pay at the end? Usually the whole party quits and starts over so the runner isn't scammed but if this title was placed in you couldn't do that. It would be forceing the runner to be scammed by some guy that doesn't want to pay.
There is no way to fairly punish people for quiting or even reconize who should be punished.
/notsigned
Brother Gilburt
Maria The Princess
first of all, theres the /resign emote
second, this title can be removed by doin some "ascalon" missions a few times, so technicly, its just to show how it is to waist time
third: 50 times is more then enouth!
second, this title can be removed by doin some "ascalon" missions a few times, so technicly, its just to show how it is to waist time
third: 50 times is more then enouth!
BrotherGilburt
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Originally Posted by Maria The Princess
first of all, theres the /resign emote
second, this title can be removed by doin some "ascalon" missions a few times, so technicly, its just to show how it is to waist time third: 50 times is more then enouth! |
Who would want to waste there time doing 15 ascalon missions?
50 times is more than enough, however I still disagree with this strongly. Theres either a better way to punish quiters than this or you just shouldn't punish them.
Also quiting is not breaking the rules of the game, therefor Anet has no right punish them.
Brother Gilburt
Maria The Princess
Quote:
Originally Posted by BrotherGilburt
Elona Reach Run: What if someone in a group didn't want to pay? Its not like the newb is going to type /resign....
Who would want to waste there time doing 15 ascalon missions? 50 times is more than enough, however I still disagree with this strongly. Theres either a better way to punish quiters than this or you just shouldn't punish them. Also quiting is not breaking the rules of the game, therefor Anet has no right punish them. Brother Gilburt |
and lets say you are the elona runer. did you get scamed over 50 times?.... if yes you have a serious problem somewhere.... and 50 times in a row?.... C'mon
and this is not punishment, its a "earned" title, that can be removed.
just so u know, today i waisted about 3 hours because ppl kept quiting in groups... you think i wanted it? hell no, if i got time to play, its not to stand around spaming ----GLF monk----. so i dont realy feel bad for a gu who will have to solo "nolani" 15 times either
BrotherGilburt
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Originally Posted by Maria The Princess
THE WAy how Anet is punishing is banning ppl..... nobody is asking to ban quiters. just give a lesson.
and lets say you are the elona runer. did you get scamed over 50 times?.... if yes you have a serious problem somewhere.... and 50 times in a row?.... C'mon and this is not punishment, its a "earned" title, that can be removed. just so u know, today i waisted about 3 hours because ppl kept quiting in groups... you think i wanted it? hell no, if i got time to play, its not to stand around spaming ----GLF monk----. so i dont realy feel bad for a gu who will have to solo "nolani" 15 times either |
Also I do consider this a punishment because it forces you to have your current title removed and makes the odds of you getting a group way less. It can get removed and it easy but its not fun.
I hate quiters to.... But there not breaking rules so they shouldn't be punished.
Now purhapes you can have the quiters spot filled with a henchman of your choose? That would work better. Of course a henchman isn't as good as a real guy but its better than nothing.
Brother Gilburt
Undivine
I'm with Brother Gilburt on this one. I'm sure a few of my characters would already have that title if it was introduced right now (even if set at 50). My monk often gets suckered into groups that promise to do the bonus but then don't. I actually don't leave when that happens usually, but it still pisses me off and I wouldn't blame someone for leaving.
Also, it's pretty easy for something to come up when the mission you're doing takes a long time. FOW for example can take as long as 6 hours. The bonus for Riverside Province can take 1 and 1/2.
An AFKer won't /resign, and if the mission turns out very badly, he would be the only person alive. There is no choice in this situation but to quit. In fact, some people are not aware of the /resign command. They might just leave not knowing there are consequences and that those consequences could have been avoided.
And then, of course, there's error 7. This is especially bad for people with a crashing problem on their computer or a room mate who trips over the router cord ( ).
All sorts of things like this happen all the time. It all builds up. Now if you suggest that the count goes down on its own over time, then we may have something. Even so, some people have a harder time staying connect to the game than others. Some people have more emergencies than others.
Also, it's pretty easy for something to come up when the mission you're doing takes a long time. FOW for example can take as long as 6 hours. The bonus for Riverside Province can take 1 and 1/2.
An AFKer won't /resign, and if the mission turns out very badly, he would be the only person alive. There is no choice in this situation but to quit. In fact, some people are not aware of the /resign command. They might just leave not knowing there are consequences and that those consequences could have been avoided.
And then, of course, there's error 7. This is especially bad for people with a crashing problem on their computer or a room mate who trips over the router cord ( ).
All sorts of things like this happen all the time. It all builds up. Now if you suggest that the count goes down on its own over time, then we may have something. Even so, some people have a harder time staying connect to the game than others. Some people have more emergencies than others.
Makkert
not signed.
I doubt ANet will implement titles with a negative ring. Not to mention this idea is lacking in practical aspect, since leaving can be a collective decision of the group, erred out, real life emergency, etc...
I doubt ANet will implement titles with a negative ring. Not to mention this idea is lacking in practical aspect, since leaving can be a collective decision of the group, erred out, real life emergency, etc...
Matsumi
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Originally Posted by Undivine
My monk often gets suckered into groups that promise to do the bonus but then don't.
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But anyways, I agree that quitters are pretty lame sometimes, but some people have a pretty good reason to quit. Humiliating somebody with a title doesn't do anything but satisfy ones ego of not being one. Besides, it could come out to maybe bite you back in the ass one day. "Oh noes, I got the quitter title, wtf?"
LFG for mission....
*crickets churping*
/not signed
thrice
Who would actually set that as their title if they got it though, and what everyone above said 123
/notsigned
/notsigned
OxoZoso
I think this idea has merit... like some of the poker sites; if you lame-azz drop out, you get pinged for it. And, as has been suggested, you could work it off, like dp. But if you commit to a group, and QUIT on them, then I don't care if your spagetti is burning - you have wasted the time and effort of others... and future players deserve to know this about you...
I have no problem with such a label on quitters whatsoever.. cuz i simply don't quit.
I have no problem with such a label on quitters whatsoever.. cuz i simply don't quit.
Fitz Rinley
I have never had the /resign emote work. After we all typed /resign. I was still standing there. Everyone else was gone. Perhaps it has not been adequately explained somewhere.
Fitz
Fitz
mega_jamie
Quote:
Originally Posted by Maria The Princess
you get a permanenet "Quitter" title that is stuck to you, you cant hide it, and the only way to reset it is to do 10 or 15 Coop missions with the bonuses from A to Z.
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The first mission takes 5 mins to run in Tyria, now doable by everyone, so you could clear that in an hour or so maybe.
Angelica
/not signed.
When I'm in a group I never quit!
In several occasion there were people who quitted after they capped, even when they said they would not do that or for other not justified reasons.
If they tell of an emergency there is no problem, it happens.
I only leave the game if someone offend me repeatedly or abuses my patience.
If I'm the monk I never leave even if I get told names ......! Usually are only one or two players, often warriors which run out of my range and pretend to be healed at once!
/Angelica
When I'm in a group I never quit!
In several occasion there were people who quitted after they capped, even when they said they would not do that or for other not justified reasons.
If they tell of an emergency there is no problem, it happens.
I only leave the game if someone offend me repeatedly or abuses my patience.
If I'm the monk I never leave even if I get told names ......! Usually are only one or two players, often warriors which run out of my range and pretend to be healed at once!
/Angelica
Nitradamus
The perfect solution:
Whenever someone quits, a henchman of that persons profession joins the game.
Whenever someone quits, a henchman of that persons profession joins the game.
chessyang
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Originally Posted by thrice
Who would actually set that as their title if they got it though,
/notsigned |
in the past few days lost of people have been quiting on ROF caps.. i don't know why... -(
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Originally Posted by Nitradamus
The perfect solution:
Whenever someone quits, a henchman of that persons profession joins the game. |
and kick thoese AFK'ers in aspen forest... i'll take an npc any day
Ken Dei
My "Coward" Title worked better about forgiving "real life/connection issues" But unfortunately it's not applicable to PvE.
In addition the thread got pushed to the 2nd page so fast no one even replied. Which is sad because it had some other balencing ideas for when people leave in 12v12.
If you want to go take a look it's on page 3-5, maybe 6 by now.
You'll know it when you see it. I rarely start threads of my own.
In addition the thread got pushed to the 2nd page so fast no one even replied. Which is sad because it had some other balencing ideas for when people leave in 12v12.
If you want to go take a look it's on page 3-5, maybe 6 by now.
You'll know it when you see it. I rarely start threads of my own.
pipedream
Yes, A COWARD TITLE (ROFL)
For all the punks who leave because they are afraid of Touch Rangers. Damn cry babies!!! Thanks for the free wins cowards. And for the ppl who leave because your on a team with a touch ranger you should loose fame evertime you do it, because you don't deserve it.
For all the punks who leave because they are afraid of Touch Rangers. Damn cry babies!!! Thanks for the free wins cowards. And for the ppl who leave because your on a team with a touch ranger you should loose fame evertime you do it, because you don't deserve it.
BrutusV
Hey Maria I never left your groups! Hahaha...
I like the "Quitter" idea, but realistically it's probably too much work to implement for a negative title. You have to account for /resign, error 7's etc.
Actually I get upset at afk PvPers more. How to implement something like a "Coward" title practically is a question, especially since PvP is a team thing so something like a "do 10 legitimate TA/HA/alliance battle games to clear your name" will be much harder to achieve than in PvE, since nobody will take them in the group.
I like the "Quitter" idea, but realistically it's probably too much work to implement for a negative title. You have to account for /resign, error 7's etc.
Actually I get upset at afk PvPers more. How to implement something like a "Coward" title practically is a question, especially since PvP is a team thing so something like a "do 10 legitimate TA/HA/alliance battle games to clear your name" will be much harder to achieve than in PvE, since nobody will take them in the group.
aron searle
If i see abuse aimed at me or another in a team, i ask it to stop or i leave.
Often i end up leaving, so yea, i really want this title
Often i end up leaving, so yea, i really want this title
Mustache Mayhem
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Originally Posted by Fitz Rinley
I know a player who used to use the /sit when she went afk, til she returned and found another player doing the warrior dance to her face.
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Eviance
Personally I am astounded at the amount of people in this thread that openly admit that they are quitters.
If you don't like it GO DIE SOMEWHERE AND WALK OFF, /resign first, but whatever!
Quitting is for cowards no matter what the situation. I have been screwed over by people saying one thing and doing another too but if you are able to work the title off then WHY NOT?! Do you honeslty quit that much in a row that you have to worry about it? If so then maybe you should find somewhere else to play or at least not PUG at all. Because as fair as you think you are being, if you quit that often IN A ROW then there is something wrong with you or the groups you pick. Don't continue to let the rest of us get punished because you suck at picking up PUGs or dealing with them once you have them OR because you can't be bothered to type /resign
....Lame!
If you don't like it GO DIE SOMEWHERE AND WALK OFF, /resign first, but whatever!
Quitting is for cowards no matter what the situation. I have been screwed over by people saying one thing and doing another too but if you are able to work the title off then WHY NOT?! Do you honeslty quit that much in a row that you have to worry about it? If so then maybe you should find somewhere else to play or at least not PUG at all. Because as fair as you think you are being, if you quit that often IN A ROW then there is something wrong with you or the groups you pick. Don't continue to let the rest of us get punished because you suck at picking up PUGs or dealing with them once you have them OR because you can't be bothered to type /resign
....Lame!
aron searle
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Originally Posted by Eviance
Personally I am astounded at the amount of people in this thread that openly admit that they are quitters.
If you don't like it GO DIE SOMEWHERE AND WALK OFF, /resign first, but whatever! Quitting is for cowards no matter what the situation. snip ....Lame! |
its a GAME.....
jebus, get some reality dosage, stat.
Eviance
Time is money and when someone wastes what little time I have I get a bit ticked off.... Some of us can't sit and play games 24/7 and those that can need to be more respectful of that. Yes I have NEVER quit even in the WORST of teams. If they are that bad they will fall apart reguardless of what I do. So yes Quitting is for Cowards. Don't like it, don't quit and waste peoples time cause you think its funner that way. And reality is 3kids and jobs! This is our only break time and we would like to be able to get further without running into cowards who can't be bothered to actually do what they are suposed to.
And if its just a game then PLAY IT AND DON'T QUIT IT just because you can't hack it.
And if its just a game then PLAY IT AND DON'T QUIT IT just because you can't hack it.
Ken Dei
Quitting on for no legitimate reason is cowardice, regardless of the battlefield. You don't just walk away from battle, because you don't feel like it, other people are count on you to at least be cannon fodder. If you don't feel like it, don't go in in the first place.
Dosage of discipline STAT.
Dosage of discipline STAT.
Aki Soyokaze
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Originally Posted by Eviance
Time is money and when someone wastes what little time I have I get a bit ticked off.... Some of us can't sit and play games 24/7 and those that can need to be more respectful of that. Yes I have NEVER quit even in the WORST of teams. If they are that bad they will fall apart reguardless of what I do. So yes Quitting is for Cowards. Don't like it, don't quit and waste peoples time cause you think its funner that way. And reality is 3kids and jobs! This is our only break time and we would like to be able to get further without running into cowards who can't be bothered to actually do what they are suposed to.
And if its just a game then PLAY IT AND DON'T QUIT IT just because you can't hack it. |
aron searle
Battlefield!
Cowardice!
Get some reality this is a game, not the frikken army.
Precicsly its my fun time, if im not enjoying it.
I quit.
Oh, im not saying i quit at the drop of a hat, but if i see abuse, it stops or i go. If i see the same warrior aggro for the umptimpth time, when hes told not to, i go.
Dont like it.
Tough.
Cowardice!
Get some reality this is a game, not the frikken army.
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And reality is 3kids and jobs! This is our only break time and we would like to be able to get further without running into cowards who can't be bothered to actually do what they are suposed to. |
I quit.
Oh, im not saying i quit at the drop of a hat, but if i see abuse, it stops or i go. If i see the same warrior aggro for the umptimpth time, when hes told not to, i go.
Dont like it.
Tough.
BrotherGilburt
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Originally Posted by Nitradamus
The perfect solution:
Whenever someone quits, a henchman of that persons profession joins the game. |
Theres no real way to see whos a quiter or not. What if everyone dies in a mission but an afker looking for a free ride? Or a scammer doesn't want to pay for an elona reach run. Or everyone dies but an afker in a droks run?
Brother Gilburt
Thorinfire
-"Every great example of punishment has in it some injustice, but the suffering individual is compensated by the public good."-Tacitus
/signed
/signed
Eviance
OK it's obvious that some of you either again cannot read or just don't want to OR would rather all quitters continue to get away with ruining the game for others.
The title would be like DP, YOU CAN GET RID OF IT! AND IT ONLY INCURRES IF YOU QUIT 50 TIMES IN A ROW FROM MISSIONS/PVP AND THE SORT!.... Now TELL ME WHO THE BLOODY HECK QUITS THAT MANY TIMES IN A ROW EXCEPT YOUR NORMAL RUN OF THE MILL GAME KILLERS?!?!?!?
jeeze -_-
If it is a game then I should be able to play without feeling like my game time is being taken from me now shouldn't I?
And again for those of you who do not commonly read my posts, my caps aren't used for yelling they are used for stressing the point - I hate yelling but I also hate italics so =P
The title would be like DP, YOU CAN GET RID OF IT! AND IT ONLY INCURRES IF YOU QUIT 50 TIMES IN A ROW FROM MISSIONS/PVP AND THE SORT!.... Now TELL ME WHO THE BLOODY HECK QUITS THAT MANY TIMES IN A ROW EXCEPT YOUR NORMAL RUN OF THE MILL GAME KILLERS?!?!?!?
jeeze -_-
If it is a game then I should be able to play without feeling like my game time is being taken from me now shouldn't I?
And again for those of you who do not commonly read my posts, my caps aren't used for yelling they are used for stressing the point - I hate yelling but I also hate italics so =P
aron searle
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Originally Posted by Eviance
OK it's obvious that some of you either again cannot read or just don't want to OR would rather all quitters continue to get away with ruining the game for others.
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Aki Soyokaze
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Originally Posted by Eviance
The title would be like DP, YOU CAN GET RID OF IT! AND IT ONLY INCURRES IF YOU QUIT 50 TIMES IN A ROW FROM MISSIONS/PVP AND THE SORT!.... Now TELL ME WHO THE BLOODY HECK QUITS THAT MANY TIMES IN A ROW EXCEPT YOUR NORMAL RUN OF THE MILL GAME KILLERS?!?!?!?
If it is a game then I should be able to play without feeling like my game time is being taken from me now shouldn't I? |
And aside from PvP how will people 'work off' their DP like penalty for leaving? Will it simply decrease over time or will it be mission based? Because to be honest I don't see how it would be all that hard to counter if they just have to run the first mission in the game(Prophecies).
So if there were to be some sort of penalty applied to people who quit, I'd like to see something more along the lines of losing gold based on what lvl you are. With perhaps a limit on the number of times you're allowed to drop from a party 5-10 times. And those 5-10 'allowances to drop' will be replenished over the course of a week or so (24hrs/drop). After you run out of allowances you'll start to pay a penalty based on the number of human players in the party and your current lvl. So let's say lvl 1-10 0g, lvl 10-14 100g, and lvl 15-20 200g. For example if you have 5 human players in your group and you're lvl 20 and you leave you pay a fine of 1k, which will be automatically taken from your inventory or even your storage. Or there could even be a new table in your 'hero' window where you get a 'Fines' section, where a portion of your gold is automatically garnished as payment.
Dodo The Extinct
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Somthing actually happened exactly like this yesterday. I was playing gw and starting Tananakai Tample. Then guess what, I hear my mom calling my name and I run to the kitchen to find out that she had fallen from the ladder (she was painting) and she really hurt her foot. She was really in pain, so I had to drive her to the hospital. It turned out she fractured her foot. When I came back an hour or more later to shut off lights and all of the other stuff I had on, I went to shut off the computer. I was very shocked to see that they had completed the mission, but they were posting
"GTFO FREAKING RIT"
"SPIRITUAL WAS CHAM IS A ******"
and that really hurt my feelings, but it was not my fault! I understant that this does not really have anything to do with the topic. But it is my experience that I thought I`d share.
Maybe it could be 25 quits in 3 months, and at the end of 3 months it is reset to 0 or something like that.
Somthing actually happened exactly like this yesterday. I was playing gw and starting Tananakai Tample. Then guess what, I hear my mom calling my name and I run to the kitchen to find out that she had fallen from the ladder (she was painting) and she really hurt her foot. She was really in pain, so I had to drive her to the hospital. It turned out she fractured her foot. When I came back an hour or more later to shut off lights and all of the other stuff I had on, I went to shut off the computer. I was very shocked to see that they had completed the mission, but they were posting
"GTFO FREAKING RIT"
"SPIRITUAL WAS CHAM IS A ******"
and that really hurt my feelings, but it was not my fault! I understant that this does not really have anything to do with the topic. But it is my experience that I thought I`d share.
Maybe it could be 25 quits in 3 months, and at the end of 3 months it is reset to 0 or something like that.
Badger2
Just quoteing, not taking a cheep shot.
If you are not a quiter this will not be a problem.
Seems to me that's the idea.
Atleast they aren't quitters and you don't expect them to think.
Now, having commented on all of this I must say that I don't see how this could possibly be implimented. There are too many variables involved.
The problem that alot, if not most, of us players (myself included) have is that we are not game designers or programmers and have no clue as to what it takes to make any game work as well as it does.
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Also I do consider this a punishment because it forces you to have your current title removed and makes the odds of you getting a group way less.
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It can get removed and it easy but its not fun.
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Now purhapes you can have the quiters spot filled with a henchman of your choose? That would work better. Of course a henchman isn't as good as a real guy but its better than nothing.
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Now, having commented on all of this I must say that I don't see how this could possibly be implimented. There are too many variables involved.
The problem that alot, if not most, of us players (myself included) have is that we are not game designers or programmers and have no clue as to what it takes to make any game work as well as it does.
Daxime
I'm liking this idea. seriously, 25 quits in a row? I haven't even done 25 missions. Even if you get a 5:1 ratio (5 Successful teams: 1 Quit), you'd never even come close to receiving this title, since the old quits are constantly worked off.
It would definitely take a lot of effort to get this title. I doubt any honest player could accidently get this title over time. Sure you can say they can work off the title by doin the Great Northern Wall Mission over and over, but it's their time to waste to work it off.
Kinda like those days in BattleNet, no one would want to play against a guy who has a lot of disconnects on their record.
It would definitely take a lot of effort to get this title. I doubt any honest player could accidently get this title over time. Sure you can say they can work off the title by doin the Great Northern Wall Mission over and over, but it's their time to waste to work it off.
Kinda like those days in BattleNet, no one would want to play against a guy who has a lot of disconnects on their record.
BrotherGilburt
Eviance, I can read.
Why this isn't fair:
-Quiting is not breaking the rules.
-You can scam easier in Elona Reach runs as the runner and the rest of tghe party wouldn't be able to quit.(In short it helps scammers)
-What if someone goes for a free ride and goes afk? you can't quit your forced to give it to them.
-Error 7
-A henchman gets stuck and is unnoticed. Your whole party dies far away from this henchman. Because one henchie is alive you can't get resurrected. You are forced to quit. I'm not even saying this has to be an all henchman party.
-There are things outside the game that may make you have to leave.
Theres much better ways to deal with this than punishing the quiters. I said it twice and I'll say it again. Just replace them with a henchman of your choose or the quiters profession. Punishing them is not going to help YOU after they quit anyway. True it may stop them from wanting to quit but I see people continueing on there quiting sprees.
Brother Gilburt
Why this isn't fair:
-Quiting is not breaking the rules.
-You can scam easier in Elona Reach runs as the runner and the rest of tghe party wouldn't be able to quit.(In short it helps scammers)
-What if someone goes for a free ride and goes afk? you can't quit your forced to give it to them.
-Error 7
-A henchman gets stuck and is unnoticed. Your whole party dies far away from this henchman. Because one henchie is alive you can't get resurrected. You are forced to quit. I'm not even saying this has to be an all henchman party.
-There are things outside the game that may make you have to leave.
Theres much better ways to deal with this than punishing the quiters. I said it twice and I'll say it again. Just replace them with a henchman of your choose or the quiters profession. Punishing them is not going to help YOU after they quit anyway. True it may stop them from wanting to quit but I see people continueing on there quiting sprees.
Brother Gilburt