What sort of weaponry should I use for my Mesmer, that FINALLY i've gotten his 30 attributes and going to start playign him in Cantha.
I'm open to any all and all suggestins, it doesn't have to be a green weapon. I'm looking for more of the 'What should I look for?' aspect of things. Cause I've already determined that unlike my Elementalist, Offhand-Main is the best combo for a Mesmer, but none the less I am looking for suggestions.
Best Weaponry
Neriandal Freit
Avarre
I have 2 main sets :
Illusion wand + Illusion focus
Domination wand + domination focus
There are easily obtainable +30hp, +1(20%) and probably 20/20 focuses, and plenty of good collector wands too.
Illusion wand + Illusion focus
Domination wand + domination focus
There are easily obtainable +30hp, +1(20%) and probably 20/20 focuses, and plenty of good collector wands too.
Vahn Roi
In cantha there are crafters that will make 20/20 wands and 20/20 foci. There are also collectors that have +5 energy (^50) Wands and +30, +1(20%) foci.
Wiki has it all :0
Wiki has it all :0
Neriandal Freit
Ah, alright good good. I'll must scan wiki later and check this stuff out so I can attempt to do rather well on the Mesmer.
The more I play him, the more potential I see for groups abroad. Rather sad still no one wants the Mes..
The more I play him, the more potential I see for groups abroad. Rather sad still no one wants the Mes..
Eaimirth Etaivella
Last I checked there was a +5^50% +20% inspiration recharge item in factions that you could get for beating the game...
/drool the only wand (that I know of...but thats alot of wands) that has an inspiration magic requirement; and its max in every way as well.
Check that one on the "must have" list as it is; special, like denravi in a way.
Ohh yea, denravi, get that (or a mimic...lost 600k on that anet...bastards)
Get the +18 and +19 energy staves in tyria those are good
Get some 20/20 dom primary/focus
-5 energy scroll and -5 sword to go with it
Just off the top of my head, a stormbow would be good too.
/drool the only wand (that I know of...but thats alot of wands) that has an inspiration magic requirement; and its max in every way as well.
Check that one on the "must have" list as it is; special, like denravi in a way.
Ohh yea, denravi, get that (or a mimic...lost 600k on that anet...bastards)
Get the +18 and +19 energy staves in tyria those are good
Get some 20/20 dom primary/focus
-5 energy scroll and -5 sword to go with it
Just off the top of my head, a stormbow would be good too.
Neriandal Freit
Why would a storm bow be good?
Eaimirth Etaivella
Shooting stuff that is out of aggro circle (pulling)
No one seems to have longbows anymore...
No one seems to have longbows anymore...
Neriandal Freit
Well Eai, why would a Mesmer who doesn't have the best armor in the world, want to aggro things? I mean a Warrior sure, but a Mesmer?
Avarre
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Last I checked there was a +5^50% +20% inspiration recharge item in factions that you could get for beating the game.../drool the only wand (that I know of...but thats alot of wands) that has an inspiration magic requirement; and its max in every way as well.
I would go with 10/10 wands (dom and illu) personally as I prefer to mix classes, and 2 focuses of those. Switch wands depending on preference and if you play a heavy dom or illu build and need the certain req. Craft a +5 sword or grab a rare one if you like, or a FFS.
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Well Eai, why would a Mesmer who doesn't have the best armor in the world, want to aggro things? I mean a Warrior sure, but a Mesmer
You never know 
I don't bring one though
I don't bring one though
Eaimirth Etaivella
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There are +5^50% +20% recharge wands for every attribute, and as usual the insp one is domination requirement (don't see why it wouldn't be...)
Actually according to wiki it is illusion rq...although it said inspiration when I first checked it awhile ago =/
http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Wayward_Wand
http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Wayward_Wand
Avarre
Well I guess that's a boon to anyone playing illu/insp builds 
There aren't any inspiration req weapons, ever. There can't be, it's not an offensive class. Might as well have healing attack wands.
Reminds me of the monk strike. 'Wammos have been found healed to death outside thk!'
There aren't any inspiration req weapons, ever. There can't be, it's not an offensive class. Might as well have healing attack wands.
Reminds me of the monk strike. 'Wammos have been found healed to death outside thk!'
Eaimirth Etaivella
lol; yea that was one of my prime motivations to get factions; for "the" only inspiration rq wand...
dang; guess wiki got fixed from the falsehood =/
dang; guess wiki got fixed from the falsehood =/
Sab
I use a 10% global recharge wand, paired with a 20/20 Rockmolder - it's good for any build. The only problem is acquiring either of those items...
Eaimirth Etaivella
You could use prenerf molder with pernerf ffs...
GL getting the prenerf FFS...ffs lol
Had 2 denravis...no prenerf ffs...now ffs is truly better or "rare"er of the two...dargit
35% global recharge ftw~
GL getting the prenerf FFS...ffs lol
Had 2 denravis...no prenerf ffs...now ffs is truly better or "rare"er of the two...dargit
35% global recharge ftw~
Katari
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Well Eai, why would a Mesmer who doesn't have the best armor in the world, want to aggro things? I mean a Warrior sure, but a Mesmer?
Henchies 
Edit: to clarify, the longbow is for pulling when you're in a party of henchies.
Edit: to clarify, the longbow is for pulling when you're in a party of henchies.
zeroxy
http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Mesmer_...uick_reference
look here , it sure helped me!
look here , it sure helped me!
Vahn Roi
Sorry I left something out.
The +5 energy (^50) wands also have either a Half Cast or Half Recharge Time mod on them as well.
I personally like going with a 20/20 Wand and +30, +1(20%) set, but that's just me.
The +5 energy (^50) wands also have either a Half Cast or Half Recharge Time mod on them as well.
I personally like going with a 20/20 Wand and +30, +1(20%) set, but that's just me.
Neriandal Freit
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Sorry I left something out.
The +5 energy (^50) wands also have either a Half Cast or Half Recharge Time mod on them as well.
I personally like going with a 20/20 Wand and +30, +1(20%) set, but that's just me. This is what I've been considering for some reason, leaning towards I should say.
Anyone know off top they're ehads where to get these so I can work on getting them Monday?
The +5 energy (^50) wands also have either a Half Cast or Half Recharge Time mod on them as well.
I personally like going with a 20/20 Wand and +30, +1(20%) set, but that's just me. This is what I've been considering for some reason, leaning towards I should say.
Anyone know off top they're ehads where to get these so I can work on getting them Monday?
Eaimirth Etaivella
Well you can get the FFS for about...all the money you and all your friends will ever have.
The prenerf molder will run you; alot.
I know its not what you asked for but I know it is what you will want =p
As for factions; guildwarswiki ftw ^^
The prenerf molder will run you; alot.
I know its not what you asked for but I know it is what you will want =p
As for factions; guildwarswiki ftw ^^
Neriandal Freit
Actually not to interested in the FFS/Molder.
Everyone wants it, so why should I want it? Is my theory on it.
But, I know that the drawing of the Female Mesmesr (like your creating a character) is holding a sword, I've always pondered if the Denravi Sword was meant for Mesmers..
Everyone wants it, so why should I want it? Is my theory on it.
But, I know that the drawing of the Female Mesmesr (like your creating a character) is holding a sword, I've always pondered if the Denravi Sword was meant for Mesmers..
Sab
In PvE, 20% recharge > 30hp in my opinion. 30hp extra only helps if you're less constantly fall below 30hp, and in those cases, chances are you're dead and can be ressed with no hard feelings. I'd rather take the additional 20% chance for a faster recharge, useful in any context.
(well, technically it's less than 20% if you stack it with a 20/20 wand, but that's another story)
(well, technically it's less than 20% if you stack it with a 20/20 wand, but that's another story)
JR
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Actually not to interested in the FFS/Molder.
Everyone wants it, so why should I want it? Is my theory on it.
But, I know that the drawing of the Female Mesmesr (like your creating a character) is holding a sword, I've always pondered if the Denravi Sword was meant for Mesmers.. Or it's just a link to Illusionary Weaponry.
Everyone wants it, so why should I want it? Is my theory on it.
But, I know that the drawing of the Female Mesmesr (like your creating a character) is holding a sword, I've always pondered if the Denravi Sword was meant for Mesmers.. Or it's just a link to Illusionary Weaponry.
Eaimirth Etaivella
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Originally Posted by Neriandal Freit
Actually not to interested in the FFS/Molder.
Everyone wants it, so why should I want it? Is my theory on it.
But, I know that the drawing of the Female Mesmesr (like your creating a character) is holding a sword, I've always pondered if the Denravi Sword was meant for Mesmers.. Well I don't want the 10% ffs, I want the 15%...cause it would be nice to have it lol -.-
The denravi is argued to be "ment" for 55s and for mesmer's IW build, ffs isn't really an IW axe due to the -10 while attacking, of course avarre will argue otherwise due to 55s but then I will point out that it is a 55 build and we will get confuze'd on what is what and what I ment so I will simply put ffs for attacking with IW will only work in 55 builds; to avoid confusion.
Everyone wants it, so why should I want it? Is my theory on it.
But, I know that the drawing of the Female Mesmesr (like your creating a character) is holding a sword, I've always pondered if the Denravi Sword was meant for Mesmers.. Well I don't want the 10% ffs, I want the 15%...cause it would be nice to have it lol -.-
The denravi is argued to be "ment" for 55s and for mesmer's IW build, ffs isn't really an IW axe due to the -10 while attacking, of course avarre will argue otherwise due to 55s but then I will point out that it is a 55 build and we will get confuze'd on what is what and what I ment so I will simply put ffs for attacking with IW will only work in 55 builds; to avoid confusion.
Evilsod
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In PvE, 20% recharge > 30hp in my opinion. 30hp extra only helps if you're less constantly fall below 30hp, and in those cases, chances are you're dead and can be ressed with no hard feelings. I'd rather take the additional 20% chance for a faster recharge, useful in any context.
(well, technically it's less than 20% if you stack it with a 20/20 wand, but that's another story) Not quite. I agree that recharge/cast is better than health, but if you stack a 20/20 wand and a 20/20 icon you get 40% chance for a 1/2 recharge/cast and a 4% chance for 1/4 recharge (when both of them stack).
You notice it when you play ele, Ragos Wand + Icon = 30% chance of fast cast or 2% of double fast cast. Meteor Shower casting in 1.25seconds is great
(well, technically it's less than 20% if you stack it with a 20/20 wand, but that's another story) Not quite. I agree that recharge/cast is better than health, but if you stack a 20/20 wand and a 20/20 icon you get 40% chance for a 1/2 recharge/cast and a 4% chance for 1/4 recharge (when both of them stack).
You notice it when you play ele, Ragos Wand + Icon = 30% chance of fast cast or 2% of double fast cast. Meteor Shower casting in 1.25seconds is great
Eaimirth Etaivella
Too bad Meteor Shower isn't so great -.-
I agree with the 40% recharge weps though; its great imo
40% rc is similar to...well heck it beats mor =/
no energy, no skill slots, not even elite even =/
I agree with the 40% recharge weps though; its great imo
40% rc is similar to...well heck it beats mor =/
no energy, no skill slots, not even elite even =/
Evilsod
I don't care how good Meteor Shower is... its the most noticable example.
The point is its still a chance, and chances never go your way. MoR does look a bit poor though in comparison...
The point is its still a chance, and chances never go your way. MoR does look a bit poor though in comparison...
Sab
Search is down so I can't call up the thread that deals with recharge times. Basically what I mean is, percentages don't "add" per se. That is to say, 20% + 20% != 40%. If I recall correctly, 20% + 20% = 36% of faster recharge, and of the 36%, there is a 4% chance of a super fast recharge. Nitpicky FTW?
Eaimirth Etaivella
I thought we just covered that...
Sab
I added that percentages don't stack with simple addition...which was the entire point of my post...
Eaimirth Etaivella
36%+4%=40% even though the 4% is for double; it is added bonus
Also Evilsod said this
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Also Evilsod said this
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Not quite. I agree that recharge/cast is better than health, but if you stack a 20/20 wand and a 20/20 icon you get 40% chance for a 1/2 recharge/cast and a 4% chance for 1/4 recharge (when both of them stack).
so yep...covered =/
Avarre
I thought it was 64% normal, 32% 1/2, 4% 1/4? Whatever.
10/10 wand, 2 20/20 focus of your choice. It hardly matters, I prefer that +1/+30 focuses.
10/10 wand, 2 20/20 focus of your choice. It hardly matters, I prefer that +1/+30 focuses.
Eaimirth Etaivella
Whatever the point is that there is math out there somewhere that supports that they stack to some degree or another that shows it comes out to roughly 4% double and something for norm...
I like 40% recharge; I really do. I find it ironic that I hate MoR; but...I really do.
Small world.
I like 40% recharge; I really do. I find it ironic that I hate MoR; but...I really do.
Small world.
Sab
One last post on the subject of recharge times. If you still don't get my point, don't worry, I won't be surprised...
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...d.php?t=119826
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...d.php?t=119826
Eaimirth Etaivella
We know they don't stack with simple addition; hence the 4% we constantly mention. We all get it; at the moment we simply don't seem to care =/
It is 4% for a double recharge; it comes to about 40% chance for a faster recharge...that is all we are discussing atm >.>
It is 4% for a double recharge; it comes to about 40% chance for a faster recharge...that is all we are discussing atm >.>
Evilsod
I thought there was something wrong with my percentages
Oh well, i dropped statistics (because it sucks). 36% of a faster recharge is still good though. Just like its nice when you get 36% of a faster cast.
Oh well, i dropped statistics (because it sucks). 36% of a faster recharge is still good though. Just like its nice when you get 36% of a faster cast.
AlbinoChocobo
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We know they don't stack with simple addition; hence the 4% we constantly mention. We all get it; at the moment we simply don't seem to care =/
It is 4% for a double recharge; it comes to about 40% chance for a faster recharge...that is all we are discussing atm >.> 20% faster recharge means 80% normal recharge. With two 20% items, you get : .8 * .8 = 64% chance normal recharge, thus 36% chance of a faster recharge. This in turn breaks down into .2x.2=4% chance hyper recharge, and (.8*.2)+(.2*.8)=.16+.16=32% chance of half-time recharge.
It is 4% for a double recharge; it comes to about 40% chance for a faster recharge...that is all we are discussing atm >.> 20% faster recharge means 80% normal recharge. With two 20% items, you get : .8 * .8 = 64% chance normal recharge, thus 36% chance of a faster recharge. This in turn breaks down into .2x.2=4% chance hyper recharge, and (.8*.2)+(.2*.8)=.16+.16=32% chance of half-time recharge.
azuresun
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Get the +18 and +19 energy staves in tyria those are good
What staves are these?!?!? 
Eaimirth Etaivella
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20% faster recharge means 80% normal recharge. With two 20% items, you get : .8 * .8 = 64% chance normal recharge, thus 36% chance of a faster recharge. This in turn breaks down into .2x.2=4% chance hyper recharge, and (.8*.2)+(.2*.8)=.16+.16=32% chance of half-time recharge.
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What staves are these?!?!?
The +18 energy staff is nothing more than a staff that is the following req 3 (or four, havn't used mine in awhile) domination magic eneregy +4 If health above 80%, energy +3 If health above 60%, energy +3 If health above 40%, energy +3 *insert +5 insightful staff head here* You can get this quest from captain arne in ascalon city; he has a prerequesite to it though, so you might have to do one of his two other quests first. The other staff is Req something...forget but it isn't needed nor does it matter Energy +4 Energy +10 if health is below 50% *insert +5 insightful staff head here* You get this from some collector in the ascalon area (you know, where char are a threat etc.) don't exactly remember where, but I know it is still there-saw him yesterday while mapping. I'm sure if you google search it you will find a map to him, or if you bug me enough I will be compelled to find him for you XD azuresun
Thanks Eaimirth for the staff info!
For Illusion: Deeproot's Sorrow is a 20/20 HSR, +1 20% Focus Item in Factions. Also the Dream Haunter is a +5 HP>50 20% HSR wand. The 20/20 recharge +30hp foci are also end game items, and correct me if I am wrong, but you only get one amulet of the mists ever per character? Eaimirth Etaivella
Correct, only 1 per character (have yet to have factions, but from my sources (wiki, this site, friends, etc.) I believe this to be true.
So if you want the wand and the foci, you will have to go through the game with two different characters; so I expect to see alot of monks going about. I'm still slightly mad at wiki for its last pile of trash it gave me though; I really had my hopes up for that inspiration requirement wand. Ohh well |