Best Weaponry
SnipiousMax
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Originally Posted by Eaimirth Etaivella
I really had my hopes up for that inspiration requirement wand.
Ohh well That's like having your hopes set on a Tactics based weapon.
Ohh well That's like having your hopes set on a Tactics based weapon.
Eaimirth Etaivella
Cept a tactics weapon would be horrid >.> unless tactics suddenly became different by stating "improves damage on...*insert whatever a tactics based weapon would be here*" which could happen. You see gw wiki actually said there was an inspiration wand though; really got my hopes up. *sigh* maybe we will get a fast casting wand instead.
Cymboric Treewalker
The real question is -- are staves better than wand/focus combos?
Inventory space? Flexibility? Other?
Inventory space? Flexibility? Other?
Avarre
Style is most important btw.
Wand + Focus, until I get a platinum staff.
Wand + Focus, until I get a platinum staff.
Eaimirth Etaivella
I will take a combination of both tyvm...
Prenerf FFS+Rockmolder/or if you lack those...
-20/20+20/20 gear
Denravi+foci combo
+18 energy staff
+19 energy staff
...ftw
*adjust accordingly to zone (example:if facing murzaat towers bring -energy gear and a long bow instead of the staves)
Prenerf FFS+Rockmolder/or if you lack those...
-20/20+20/20 gear
Denravi+foci combo
+18 energy staff
+19 energy staff
...ftw
*adjust accordingly to zone (example:if facing murzaat towers bring -energy gear and a long bow instead of the staves)
Avarre
In the mursaat tower case why not just wield a wand+shield, slightly more armor (and damage reduction when +stance) and you can actually do damage 
Eaimirth Etaivella
Never really counted on wand "damage" as "damage" though...
Longbow>wand damage...as usally there is a hill etc. nearby, and you don't get that nasty 20 damage every couple sec.
Longbow>wand damage...as usally there is a hill etc. nearby, and you don't get that nasty 20 damage every couple sec.
Avarre
newbie weapon longbow damage (from fail req) < 11-22 + 20%. As for hill... buh? Your team should be near and attacking, and with focus swaps you should still be casting on the seals/jades
Evilsod
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Originally Posted by Eaimirth Etaivella
Never really counted on wand "damage" as "damage" though...
Longbow>wand damage...as usally there is a hill etc. nearby, and you don't get that nasty 20 damage every couple sec. Imho, if your team is relying on you as a mesmer, to kill an Ether Seal from height bonus, you need a new team. On Ring of Fire the first Ether Seal at the fort is perfectly placed near a huge hill, my Ranger can take that tower solo due to bonus damage. Same goes for the Ether Seal in Perdition Rock. But really, whats gonna do more damage? You out of casting range using a Longbow, or you at cast range having surprised it with Backfire and Empathy? You may aswell just stay nearby.
Longbow>wand damage...as usally there is a hill etc. nearby, and you don't get that nasty 20 damage every couple sec. Imho, if your team is relying on you as a mesmer, to kill an Ether Seal from height bonus, you need a new team. On Ring of Fire the first Ether Seal at the fort is perfectly placed near a huge hill, my Ranger can take that tower solo due to bonus damage. Same goes for the Ether Seal in Perdition Rock. But really, whats gonna do more damage? You out of casting range using a Longbow, or you at cast range having surprised it with Backfire and Empathy? You may aswell just stay nearby.
Eaimirth Etaivella
True but he said "wand damage"
Yet hey~just between weapons the bow would win ^_^; add spells and the - energy set wins.
Yet hey~just between weapons the bow would win ^_^; add spells and the - energy set wins.
Avarre
Umm, no, because you don't meet req, bow loses. And wand+shield(or nothing) = low energy set = spells = win.
But bah seals aren't really that dangerous anyway
But bah seals aren't really that dangerous anyway
Eaimirth Etaivella
Meh 15-28 1/2 due to failed requirements=7.5-14, it is low damage, factor in the hill and it becomes reasonable again ^_~
*notes that the -energy scroll adds armor; and that shield has a failed requirement as well 5<8 as well, but it is very similar to my bow>wand arguement.
*agrees to the seals=/=threat; if we had 8 people with longbows...
*notes that the -energy scroll adds armor; and that shield has a failed requirement as well 5<8 as well, but it is very similar to my bow>wand arguement.
*agrees to the seals=/=threat; if we had 8 people with longbows...
Avarre
Shield is +45hp, -2 damage if you're in distortion and using those mods. Factor THAT in.
Neriandal Freit
I've came to post back on this topic. Forgive me for not posting the last few days, I was banned from Guru for posting in my Buy topic in the Buy Subforum under the 24 hour rule, which I had forgotten about since I do not buy to often.
So, now that I am back..
I like the Deeproot Sorrow+Dream Hunter suggestion and will be looking into them price wise and what not.
So, now that I am back..
I like the Deeproot Sorrow+Dream Hunter suggestion and will be looking into them price wise and what not.
floplag
i have 2 sets ... my primary set has 20/20 on both the chaxram and a gazing wand.
second set has energy boost to both for when it gets thick. less regen, but i nice boost of about 30 energy
both sets are collector/crafter items .. not a green to be seen
second set has energy boost to both for when it gets thick. less regen, but i nice boost of about 30 energy
both sets are collector/crafter items .. not a green to be seen
azuresun
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Originally Posted by Neriandal Freit
I like the Deeproot Sorrow+Dream Hunter suggestion and will be looking into them price wise and what not.
Let me know how that goes, I'd be interested in a set of those as well.
Eaimirth Etaivella
Considering the seal shouldn't be attacking the mesmer in the first place...I don't that counts as much Avarre unless you are taking into account the -20hp effect; in which case you will live a teeny bit longer...not as long as a +60hp staff though. Yet using distortion will eat up your energy will it not, and these are very energy deprived scenarios >.<
Evilsod
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Originally Posted by Eaimirth Etaivella
Meh 15-28 1/2 due to failed requirements=7.5-14, it is low damage, factor in the hill and it becomes reasonable again ^_~
*notes that the -energy scroll adds armor; and that shield has a failed requirement as well 5<8 as well, but it is very similar to my bow>wand arguement.
*agrees to the seals=/=threat; if we had 8 people with longbows... Erm, don't weapons all act as Starter weapons if you don't meet there requirements, not half damage? Least thats what i read a while ago.
Seals =/= threat if you have a full team anyway, a full team with longbows is just pointless anyway. Unless its a Barrage team of course
*notes that the -energy scroll adds armor; and that shield has a failed requirement as well 5<8 as well, but it is very similar to my bow>wand arguement.
*agrees to the seals=/=threat; if we had 8 people with longbows... Erm, don't weapons all act as Starter weapons if you don't meet there requirements, not half damage? Least thats what i read a while ago.
Seals =/= threat if you have a full team anyway, a full team with longbows is just pointless anyway. Unless its a Barrage team of course
Eaimirth Etaivella
Well they arn't /R or anything, but I'm pretty sure a team just with longbow weapons could beat the seal without getting touched.
Pretty sure its half, but we do know it is reduced. I can run some tests; have a 15%^50 req 9 storm bow that I've been trying to sell I could use to test...(<-buy me!)
Pretty sure its half, but we do know it is reduced. I can run some tests; have a 15%^50 req 9 storm bow that I've been trying to sell I could use to test...(<-buy me!)
Avarre
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Originally Posted by evilsod
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Originally Posted by Avarre
newbie weapon longbow damage (from fail req)
I second ^^
Using longbows to shoot a seal is still a gimmick, considering seals are fairly weak and you should just rush them, interrupt their 2 spells, and kill.
Theos
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Originally Posted by Avarre
I second ^^
Using longbows to shoot a seal is still a gimmick, considering seals are fairly weak and you should just rush them, interrupt their 2 spells, and kill. Or own them with Wastrels >.> I like to use alot of weapons: 20/20 Rocky & Wayward Illusion Wand Fellblade (15 vs hexed) 20% enchant & Collectors Stance Shield Generic Staff for everything ... ya I don't remember. Eaimirth Etaivella
Don't forget Avarre hates Wastrels,energy tap, yet loves IW.
I hate conjure phantasm, but love powerblock & wastrels. Evilsod hates powerblock but loves power return (which I also hate) HellaGood hates powerblock, but loves Psychic Distraction (dunno why, baffles me...well I know but I don't know) I'm pretty sure you love ineptitude but am unclear on what you hate. So its highly unlikely that you will see anyone running a skill that they hate; thus I find it highly unlikely that Avarre would use such a skill on the towers. Final thus; he insists on finding another method. -Powerspike -Wand damage XD
Avarre
I cry the shock, and wand the tower while hexing the jade/mursaat that are around and the rest of the group does something useful.
Nice to see Eaimirth is trying to break the mesmer forumites down to formula xD To be helpful: I <3 IW Ineptitude Mantra of Recovery Empathy Cry of Frustration Shatter Hex Distortion eDrain I haet: Wastrel's eTap Overload Unfortunately for those who try to build a bot to mimic me, I use skills I hate and don't use the ones I love sometimes. So meh.
Theos
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Originally Posted by Avarre
I cry the shock, and wand the tower while hexing the jade/mursaat that are around and the rest of the group does something useful.
Nice to see Eaimirth is trying to break the mesmer forumites down to formula xD To be helpful: I <3 IW Ineptitude Mantra of Recovery Empathy Cry of Frustration Shatter Hex Distortion eDrain I haet: Wastrel's eTap Overload Unfortunately for those who try to build a bot to mimic me, I use skills I hate and don't use the ones I love sometimes. So meh. Meh, he is wrong about me >.> I <3 many skills: Psychic Distraction Psychic Istability (when brambles is around >.> ) Distortion Echo Mantra of Recovery/Recall Keystone Signet >.> and so on... I like Illusion of Pain because of its name, not use
SnipiousMax
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Originally Posted by Avarre
I haet:
Wastrel's eTap Overload I seem to remember Physical Resistance was there once upon a time....
Avarre
People still use Physical Resistance?!
It was part of one of my farming builds once though... HH+PR griffon farming xD Eaimirth Etaivella
I use(d) physical resist in RA; with assassins it is little help though (DARN +damage armor ignoring effects! DARN IT!)
so much for my blood spike... <3 Wastrels Powerblock <3 Powerspike Shatter Hex Energy Drain E. Bond Hates Diversion Power Return Conjure anything Mantra of Recovery Psychic Distraction Me/W IW
Sab
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Originally Posted by Eaimirth Etaivella
Wastrels Powerblock <3 Powerspike Shatter Hex Energy Drain E. Bond Hates Diversion Power Return Conjure anything Mantra of Recovery Psychic Distraction Me/W IW Amazing...my list would look exactly the opposite, bar Energy Drain.
holden
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Originally Posted by Avarre
I haet
Wastrel's eTap Overload e tap is worthless for sure. is there ever a reason to put that skill on your bar? i look at it all that time and think, i hope i got that from a quest and didn't spend a skill point on it. Eaimirth Etaivella
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Originally Posted by LuxA
Amazing...my list would look exactly the opposite, bar Energy Drain.
NO SHATTER HEX!!?!!?!!?
SnipiousMax
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Originally Posted by Eaimirth Etaivella
NO SHATTER HEX!!?!!?!!?
lol
The mesmer forum is funny! Debates just trickle from thread to thread! 
Avarre
But shatter hex is like necessary basic man...
Theos
Not if you are running Illusion >.>
Eaimirth Etaivella
Yea but I had very few illusion spells on that list...
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