what happened to old armors update?
Y.T.
i'm wondering what happened with the old armors update? old fow/15k pyro/aero/et cetera sets are complete crap compare to post-factions sets, old rogue armor still has this energy penalty... why we have to be penalized for being long-time clients? it's been few weeks and still there was no armor update....
Opeth11
Maybe the developers are currently occupied with something else? Who knows.
It will come eventually.
It will come eventually.
Matsumi
I don't really get it either... I ended up salvaging my old 15k armor already and getting a new 15k set with the better stats. It just bugs me to wait for something for so long, and realize it may never happen. So, I'm out of 60k plus materials and rune costs... but at least I got to upgrade, expensively.
jackie
It has been noted that the update will come in near future (maybe in couple of weeks). Just got to be little bit patienced, it's a big update to change those things..
dreamhunk
i am not deleting my armor, it costed me alot. 15K I will still use my armor just change my style once in a while. 
I mean i have to have fashion state even in a game. :P
I mean i have to have fashion state even in a game. :P
HawkofStorms
"Realize it may never happen." Dead wrong. It has been stated many times that they are working on it. I would expect it would be done within the month at the latest. A long time to wait, I know, especially for a very competitive PvP player or a warrior.
Honestly though, for a lot of casting professions, it isn't a huge disadvantage, especially for eles, to have the old "worthless" armor, especially for PvE. Eles in particular, if you really NEED that +10 armor verses all elemental damage so badly to survive in PvE, learn to stay in the back of the group and let the tank handle aggro. I used collector armor the whole time with my ele (over 1 mill exp) with no armor bonus, and was fine in PvE. And when factions came out I just got the archmage set.
Honestly though, for a lot of casting professions, it isn't a huge disadvantage, especially for eles, to have the old "worthless" armor, especially for PvE. Eles in particular, if you really NEED that +10 armor verses all elemental damage so badly to survive in PvE, learn to stay in the back of the group and let the tank handle aggro. I used collector armor the whole time with my ele (over 1 mill exp) with no armor bonus, and was fine in PvE. And when factions came out I just got the archmage set.
dgb
It's coming soon.
After auction houses, reconnects, guild storage, etc.
Seriously, accept that A-net has a different opinion of the word soon to the rest of the English speaking world.
After auction houses, reconnects, guild storage, etc.
Seriously, accept that A-net has a different opinion of the word soon to the rest of the English speaking world.
Vermilion Okeanos
This must be the gazillions times that this had been made into a topic.
We must make a gazillion threads of telling people to look for similar topic first.
Please people... help yourself a bit.
I wish the search feature here is more stable.
We must make a gazillion threads of telling people to look for similar topic first.
Please people... help yourself a bit.
I wish the search feature here is more stable.
XvArchonvX
wow, someone salvaged a set of 15k then bought the same 15k over again? that's pretty sad in my book. Considering how long it can take to earn 15k armor, it seems pretty silly since the update will likely come anytime.
Matsumi
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Originally Posted by XvArchonvX
wow, someone salvaged a set of 15k then bought the same 15k over again? that's pretty sad in my book. Considering how long it can take to earn 15k armor, it seems pretty silly since the update will likely come anytime.
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Misc Merik
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Originally Posted by XvArchonvX
wow, someone salvaged a set of 15k then bought the same 15k over again? that's pretty sad in my book. Considering how long it can take to earn 15k armor, it seems pretty silly since the update will likely come anytime.
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dgb
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Originally Posted by XvArchonvX
wow, someone salvaged a set of 15k then bought the same 15k over again? that's pretty sad in my book. Considering how long it can take to earn 15k armor, it seems pretty silly since the update will likely come anytime.
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TheMosesPHD
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Originally Posted by Matsumi
Heh, ya well, what can I say, I'm impatient when it comes to some things. Dealing with soon, anytime now, sometime, maybe, all have one thing in common for me.
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Originally Posted by dgb
If you're playing in high end PVP willingly handicapping yourself by using inferior equipment is dumb. Currently pre update armour is inferior.
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Edit: I observed the power of post merge.
dgb
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Originally Posted by TheMosesPHD
Well, if you're playing in high end PVP then you probably have dedicated PvP slot. I try and use my PvEs when I can because it's nice having pwn multiple armor and pwn mass weapons but if you really are a hardcore PvPer it's impracticle not to have a PvP slot for specialized builds.
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Matsumi
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Originally Posted by TheMosesPHD
Which type of armor was it that you salvaged? What armor stat could possibly be soooo much better than the previous one that you can't do without? And anyway if I had a 15k set and I did need the new stat I think I would just craft a cheap 1.5k set to keep around until they update. You prolly wouldn't need to fill up 4 slots to do it either, just two perhaps. For practicality's sake you could probably do fine with just the chest and legs.
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TheMosesPHD
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Originally Posted by dgb
At the top end it's a handicap not to use a PVE character. As you say, armour swaps etc. Either way, the only way to come out with a non-inferior character was to bite the bullet and buy a new set of armour.
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Opeth11
I'm sure that's the way sensible people would do it.
Just buy a 1.5 set and don't splurge on 15 o.o
Bah, rich folk.
Just buy a 1.5 set and don't splurge on 15 o.o
Bah, rich folk.
dgb
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Ya I know but you could just buy 1.5k and keep that until you get your old armor updated. I dunno it's prolly just that I don't have that much cash laying around to just dump and reload 15k sets O.o
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Luckily I so rarely play warrior that I haven't bothered to do it, but I did so for my monk.
TheMosesPHD
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And a superior vigor maybe? It would be cheaper to salvage my old ascalon boots and buy another 15k set rather than leave them in the hope of upgrading and but a superior vigor and a 1.5k set.
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Kaguya
What I don't understand how a situation like this has come to be in the first place. You'd think the items would be upgraded automatically when the Canthan counterparts appeared, or the upgrade NPC would be available right away.
Well, I don't have any of the 'affected' armor so I don't really care, but it's just odd. Didn't they think of the old armors until someone pointed it out after launch? :P
Well, I don't have any of the 'affected' armor so I don't really care, but it's just odd. Didn't they think of the old armors until someone pointed it out after launch? :P
Shadow Dragon
Damn am i glad i got my obsidian after the armor updates. had droks before it. bought a new set to get the new stats, then after all the farming and crap was i got my obsidian which after i went back to play the game like a normal person. helping guildies and other players get through crap missions. (without charging them. eg. 1k for a run to kaineng from market place)
Y.T.
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Maybe the developers are currently occupied with something else? Who knows.
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does it make u happy? its obvious that devs are doing smth, but honestly i dont want to know what they're doing - its their job and all i care is final product - a.k.a. properly updated GW. and i dont think that players should care about what devs are doing - as long as evrthing works... upgrading old armors shoudnt be a problem, it should be fixed immediately after release of ch2, it denies all common sence and shows great disrespect to old customers. if anet wants criticism instead of flaming - here it is. they obviously missed it and they keep forgetting about it or intentionally leaving it for some future updates... theres nothing wrong in discussing the problem and reminding them about it.
@Hawk - u're not playing ele i see, cos if u were u'd know that 10AR is a HUGE diff for ele - both in pve and pvp. and dont try to say that eles should stay behind - there are alot of diff ele builds, some of them can stay behind, some of them arent supposed to stay behind at all
and pray tell me why having less energy can be beneficial for mesmer in rogue armor....
Y.T.
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FalconDance
Rogues Armor (mesmer): it's been fixed as far as I can tell. The energy fix is NOT, however, retroactive. I.e. if you have on the old Rogue's, you'll not see a difference; you need to have 'new' Rogue's crafted to gain back the energy. That's not a problem unless you're either 1) too lazy to have it infused again (if staying in Tyria) or 2) have it all in 15K (that would be an expensive change).
My mesmer has the 15K Rogue's top (gotta love the snazzy corset
) and the rest Forge but frankly, the mere 3 energy that is missing is negligible. Right now she's wearing some pretty Canthan armor so she can do covert ops 
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My Tyrian ele only uses 'special' (read: elemental resistant) gloves and top with her plain jane leggings and boots. She has an alternative set for other areas where different protection may be needed. Further protection has never been needed (thus negating that an added +10 vs anything is vital). Why not an entire set, you ask? Ascetics. I can't stand the uber short nonsense of the cold-resist skirt or the squared-off geo skirt or the flimsy little aero skirt or the ducktail of the pyro skirt. The plain leggings are streamline and sharp looking. They also cost a mere 1.5K at Droknar's to craft and are easily replaceable if they become too soiled or shrink.
Fissure armor? Some of it is nice looking but since there's no gain except for vanity, why bother? And with that, there's no great rush for Anet to drop everything else they're doing and 'fix' armor. Besides, the baddest armor in the game isn't going to save your sorry ass if you don't have the skills or the knowledge to use them!
My mesmer has the 15K Rogue's top (gotta love the snazzy corset
) and the rest Forge but frankly, the mere 3 energy that is missing is negligible. Right now she's wearing some pretty Canthan armor so she can do covert ops .My Tyrian ele only uses 'special' (read: elemental resistant) gloves and top with her plain jane leggings and boots. She has an alternative set for other areas where different protection may be needed. Further protection has never been needed (thus negating that an added +10 vs anything is vital). Why not an entire set, you ask? Ascetics. I can't stand the uber short nonsense of the cold-resist skirt or the squared-off geo skirt or the flimsy little aero skirt or the ducktail of the pyro skirt. The plain leggings are streamline and sharp looking. They also cost a mere 1.5K at Droknar's to craft and are easily replaceable if they become too soiled or shrink.
Fissure armor? Some of it is nice looking but since there's no gain except for vanity, why bother? And with that, there's no great rush for Anet to drop everything else they're doing and 'fix' armor. Besides, the baddest armor in the game isn't going to save your sorry ass if you don't have the skills or the knowledge to use them!
Priest Of Sin
1 Set of Necromancer Bonelace FoW for minion protection: 1.3 million.
1 set of Ascalon FoW armor for warrior for damage reduction: 1.6 million.
1 set of Enchanters Mesmer FoW armor for energy: 1.3 million.
Being screwed over by the people who you devoted 1,077 hours to: Priceless.
1 set of Ascalon FoW armor for warrior for damage reduction: 1.6 million.
1 set of Enchanters Mesmer FoW armor for energy: 1.3 million.
Being screwed over by the people who you devoted 1,077 hours to: Priceless.
Loviatar
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1k for a run to kaineng from market place)
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i really hope nobody is charging for a non contact run i could do with a naked level 1 character
Quantum Duck
The old armor is just as good as it ever was, so I don't see how anyone is hurt. It will get updated to be equal to the new stuff when they finish making whatever changes they need to make to retroactively change equipment(I don't remember them ever retroactively changing stats on things before) and have tested it to make sure they don't accidentally retroactively break your older armor. I'm not seeing the problem here, except that they are too slow for the tastes of some people.
You knew what you were getting when you bought the armor, and what you got hasn't changed. Remaking expensive armor because it doesn't get upgraded to the new max instantly seems pretty silly to me. The stat differences are fairly minor, and the upgrade WILL happen. If I remember right, sometime in the next week or two was the most recent estimate provided.
Seriously, some people will make a huge deal out of anything.
You knew what you were getting when you bought the armor, and what you got hasn't changed. Remaking expensive armor because it doesn't get upgraded to the new max instantly seems pretty silly to me. The stat differences are fairly minor, and the upgrade WILL happen. If I remember right, sometime in the next week or two was the most recent estimate provided.
Seriously, some people will make a huge deal out of anything.
Nevin
I salvaged my 15k platemail dyed black.. Eh I didn't like it that much anyways.
Fluffyx
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wow, someone salvaged a set of 15k then bought the same 15k over again? that's pretty sad in my book. Considering how long it can take to earn 15k armor, it seems pretty silly since the update will likely come anytime.
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I mean its sad that you lose the money and all due to anets slowness. But right now they need to fix a lot of things, while they're at it with the armors they might as well update the mods on the old greens. But back to the topic I honestly dont think this is high in their priority list and may not be done for awhile.
Yichi
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1 set of Ascalon FoW armor for warrior for damage reduction: 1.6 million.
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CartmanPT
I have some of the old armor and i really dont care for how long it will take for the upgrade. Because i understand that there is more stuff to do and also that make changes in game is not just write /make old armor = to new (press enter)
If eventualy the upgrade never happens is also fine to me. i bought my pc a while ag0 (amd 3000) and now the 3800 is at the same price, should i go to the store and demand a upgrade because mine sucks now?????
If eventualy the upgrade never happens is also fine to me. i bought my pc a while ag0 (amd 3000) and now the 3800 is at the same price, should i go to the store and demand a upgrade because mine sucks now?????
Mighty Hero
I have been waiting for upgrade npc's for awhile now. It's overdue if you ask me. Anet managed to upgrade all overall profession skills and fix bugs for many times during past few weeks,but not the armor and weapon upgrade you can see yourself at http://www.guildwars.com/support/gameupdates/.
When it comes to upgrade npc's, its not in their priority. What the message telling me is that players are not that important. The correct word from anet is "You have to wait.. be patient.. working on it ..coming out soon." I can see its definitely not in their priority. "soon" is getting old and losing my trust over that matter. What is new in that area?
When it comes to upgrade npc's, its not in their priority. What the message telling me is that players are not that important. The correct word from anet is "You have to wait.. be patient.. working on it ..coming out soon." I can see its definitely not in their priority. "soon" is getting old and losing my trust over that matter. What is new in that area?
Quantum Duck
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I mean its sad that you lose the money and all due to anets slowness.
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Theus
So,when they release the armor update,the armor on my character will be changed?
lg5000
Priest Of Sin, the Enchanters set isn't likely to see any changes. It was the Rouge armor that they were going to get rid of the negative energy penalty, so I'm not sure why you think you wasted money for fow enchanters.
Loviatar
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forget about bugs that ruin peoples fun fix my armor now or i will.............keep whineing.
getting the bugs out instead of wasteing time on armor shows they care about making a good game better which benefits all of us not just a few
generik
FoW armor regardless of whether it will get updated or not, is a waste of money.
Enough said
Enough said
generik
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Originally Posted by Loviatar
of course your precious itty bitty armor upgrade is the most important part of the game.
forget about bugs that ruin peoples fun fix my armor now or i will.............keep whineing. getting the bugs out instead of wasteing time on armor shows they care about making a good game better which benefits all of us not just a few |
Matsumi
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If eventualy the upgrade never happens is also fine to me. i bought my pc a while ag0 (amd 3000) and now the 3800 is at the same price, should i go to the store and demand a upgrade because mine sucks now?????
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You bought a computer a while ago, then the computer company recalled all the computers that they sold at that time, re-released them with the same product name and number but with better parts in them for the same price. When you tried to return yours for the one with better parts, they said no, but included that you may do so at a later time... sometime. After waiting and waiting for the option to get yours upgraded you either decide to
A.) Sell your computer for half the amount it cost you when you bought it, so you can suffer the loss and get a better computer. Even if an upgrade option comes later, you don't have to wonder when.
B.) Keep sending them love letters and asking them when you'll be able to upgrade. Then keep getting told things like sometime, maybe, soon, summer, winter, next season. Only to realize you've been wasting your time, and could of made enough money to buy a new one while waiting.
C.) Do nothing because you simply don't give a crap, or weren't effected by the recall. Or, simply buy something that doesn't look like what you bought at all, and isn't as expensive (droks armor), but has the upgraded parts you're looking for, even though it doesn't look as good.
dgb
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And as I said, most of the upgrades are fairly minor.
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