Delete Assassin to make Ritualist?

How about solo UW? That's been proven, over and over again.

The Mesmer can solo the most of UW, out of all the classes. No disagreement with that

However, the issue is whether they can run with a PvE team and do high amounts of dmg relative to an Ele or Necro or even a Rit.

No disrespect to the Mes class. It's the most interesting of the classes, I find. However, GW PvE (in general) is set up to reward the AoE dmg dealers, the dmg absorbers/limiters, and the healers the most. Hence most teams just look for these builds, resulting in discrimination against the 'Sin and the Mes.

Even when going up against 3 healers (Dredge Gardeners), the typical cookie cutter team can outdamage their healing and save them for last if needed. It's just the way that PvE has been made by Anet.

More than anything, Anet needs to change the way that PvE works so that Mesmers and 'Sins get their due. Maybe have some PvE regions where the mobs play like humans - they all use rez sig, run away from AoE dmg, and bring PvP builds. If there were mobs with touch rangers and boon prot monks, teams would be crying for mesmers the way they cry for monks now.

Let's hope it happens.

No disagreement with that

However, the issue is whether they can run with a PvE team and do high amounts of dmg relative to an Ele or Necro or even a Rit.

No disrespect to the Mes class. It's the most interesting of the classes, I find. However, GW PvE (in general) is set up to reward the AoE dmg dealers, the dmg absorbers/limiters, and the healers the most. Hence most teams just look for these builds, resulting in discrimination against the 'Sin and the Mes.

Even when going up against 3 healers (Dredge Gardeners), the typical cookie cutter team can outdamage their healing and save them for last if needed. It's just the way that PvE has been made by Anet.

More than anything, Anet needs to change the way that PvE works so that Mesmers and 'Sins get their due. Maybe have some PvE regions where the mobs play like humans - they all use rez sig, run away from AoE dmg, and bring PvP builds. If there were mobs with touch rangers and boon prot monks, teams would be crying for mesmers the way they cry for monks now.

Let's hope it happens. Well, let's say they aren't liked in group farming, but they absolutely own in high-level solo farming.

EDIT: With your farming group, the Mesmer can hold off the monk, making the nuker's job that much easier. :P

Just because more ignorant ppl dont know how to use assassins doesnt mean its more of a challenge. Seriously...you tele, you attack, you move behind the monks Mesmer are a challenge to anyone that wants to make them Uber
Yep im on your side Avarre

/Edit: I like Rt/N the best for some mixed in hexes ^_~ Obviously you took my words out of context. I never said Assassins were a challenge to play. I said Ritualists have an easy time to get into groups. Assassins were the challenge (referencing getting into groups), even more so than Mesmers.

Obviously you took my words out of context. I never said Assassins were a challenge to play. I said Ritualists have an easy time to get into groups. Assassins were the challenge (referencing getting into groups), even more so than Mesmers. I would say, your message wasn't clear enough.

Fixed. agreed

it just takes more skill to play sins & mesmers

if played well any toon can be very good,,,,

I don't mind Assassins,, I have played with some good ones and some horrible ones,, but hey we all have to learn at one time or another.

Edit; btw Mesmers can and do put out a lot of damage in the right hands....along with a ton of degen

and to answer the original posters question; gfi delete and remake toons to your hearts desire,,, enjoy!!

Sorry for double post I just had to say....

THANK YOU!

You see, its not that assassins are horrible is people have no freakin idea how to play them. Its like... "Im an assassin, Im invicible... I can do everything". Then they do in 2 seconds. I remember playing my ritualist and there was an assassin in the same mission. I rezed him at least 10 times in the first 15 mintues.... and he was like "why aren't the Monks healing" OMG... Why are you so stupid and run right up to the boss and die in 3 hits?? By half way through the mission he was at 60DP and I just gave up on him. Eventually he quit and was sour because the healers weren't doing their jobs

So Ill say it again. READ LIGHTNING HELLS POST CAREFULLY I had the same experience. 1 Assassin, 1 warrior, 1 necro, 1 ranger, 1 ele, and me (Rit/N). Assassin died in every battle we faced. Eventually the Assassin said he was going to quit the mission. I tried to convince him to stay (we were 90% done). I told him it didn't matter if he dies, as long as I live, he'll be raised. I had to heal the entire party (because no one, except the ranger) had any healing with them.

Sadly, the Assassin did leave and we completed the mission without him.

Assassins are the best learning experience in the game. They are the essence of power and fragility in one. "Can dish it out, but can't take it" type of character. Poisonous serated knives in a rice paper house. Deadly in melee, but disolves into the earth if you get it wet (spill its blood).