Personally, I think 100k for the Guild Hall skill trainer is a bit rubbish for the skills offered. For that price I was expecting a Fire Islands style Trader.
Now, if it was like the aforementioned trader that might upset a balance or something silly, or annoy people with the ability to create a character and zone straight to the Guild Hall for your choice of skills.
So, my suggestion.
Make the Trader more dynamic. Make the Skill Trader show all of the individual skills from all of the Traders that that particular character has previously visited, from both Prophecies and Factions.
Thoughts?
Guild Hall Skill Trainer.
Kaldor Meshekal
Slainster
i agree.. i purchased the skill trader for our hall.. was not impressed!!
Zui
What you don't like paying 100k for Core skills that you likely already have, don't want, or could buy anywhere else?
I agree, somthing does need to be done about this...
I agree, somthing does need to be done about this...
Tarun
Agreed.
/signed to fix the Hall Skills Trainer.
/signed to fix the Hall Skills Trainer.
Ghozer
/signed
Shadow Dragon
/signed
i finished prophecies with one warrior and unlock 99% of all the skills. now i would love to do the same buy buying the skills for my other warrior. but the trip for cantha to fire islands is a long one to say the least.
i finished prophecies with one warrior and unlock 99% of all the skills. now i would love to do the same buy buying the skills for my other warrior. but the trip for cantha to fire islands is a long one to say the least.
Hunter31
Hi everybody !
This topic was post before mine : so i post here !
/signed to fix the Hall Skills Trainer.
Enjoy :
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This topic was post before mine : so i post here !
/signed to fix the Hall Skills Trainer.
Enjoy :
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Curse You
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/signed
i finished prophecies with one warrior and unlock 99% of all the skills. now i would love to do the same buy buying the skills for my other warrior. but the trip for cantha to fire islands is a long one to say the least. |
Anyhow, I frankly don't mind having to treck around to find my skills. But then again, I have ALL necro skills from Prophecies and so I can buy them anywhere, on any character. As well I have more than half the skills for the other core professions, so any new characters I make can easily buy the skills (once they get to Lion's Arch).
However I am not aware as to what exactly the guild hall skill trainers offer, because my guild hasn't bothered to buy one. But they SHOULD (if they don't already) offer all unlocked skills on your account. I don't see a reason that they should offer anything but core skills for new accounts, otherwise you could just have Factions and then buy Prophecies skills at your guild hall.
Tarun
Indeed, they need a check to see what games you have; then offer skills. Besides, skill points don't come easy with new chars anyways.
Sofonisba
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Anyhow, I frankly don't mind having to treck around to find my skills.
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I have no earthly clue how difficult this would be to code, but... to make the trainer worthwhile, I propose (and I'm sure it's been proposed before):
If a particular character has made it to Ember Light Camp, allow that character to view/purchase all skills in Tyria at the Guild Hall. Same with Canthan skills if that character has finished Factions' storyline. If your character has finished both chapters, show ALL skills for their profession, not just "native" skills.
For all others, have the skill trainers show the skills available to each character, that they WOULD have access to in PvE. For example, if your Tyrian character has not been to Cantha, don't show Canthan skills yet. If they have made it to Maguuma Stade, show all skills available up until Maguuma Stade.
4runner
signed
Mr_eX
/signed
Winterclaw
/signed
Consider it double signed if guild skill trainers also offer you elites. Another idea would be you pay the skill trainer to add extra skills.
For me my first one was a W/E and my second was a W/mo (this was well before I got to the class change). Also one is a male and the other is a female... but I'm thinking of deleting the first one to make a canthan warrior.
Consider it double signed if guild skill trainers also offer you elites. Another idea would be you pay the skill trainer to add extra skills.
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Let me get this straight, you have 2 PvE warriors? What is the point of that?
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Winterclaw
/signed
Consider it double signed if guild skill trainers also offer you elites. Another idea would be you pay the skill trainer to add extra skills.
For me my first one was a W/E and my second was a W/mo (this was well before I got to the class change). Also one is a male and the other is a female... but I'm thinking of deleting the first one to make a canthan warrior.
Consider it double signed if guild skill trainers also offer you elites. Another idea would be you pay the skill trainer to add extra skills.
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Let me get this straight, you have 2 PvE warriors? What is the point of that?
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TheLordOfBlah
Yea lets make it SUPER EASY for people in a guild to get elite skills as soon as they want.
Signed for the non-crap ideas.
Signed for the non-crap ideas.
samifly
all unlocked skills should be available, from every chapter. Core skills should be there for those who dont have them unlocked.
Joh
/signed on the only good suggestion in this thread that it only lists skills from outposts/towns you have already been to with this char (not account).
edit: And possibly unlocked skills, but never ever elites.
edit: And possibly unlocked skills, but never ever elites.
Dougal Kronik
Let the skill trainer sell any skills that are unlocked on your Account, but no Elites!
This would make the skill trainer actually have a use in PvE.
This would make the skill trainer actually have a use in PvE.
darrylhaines
/signed.
Curse You
Yea one of the things I was trying to say is that all core skills could be available, plus any other skills you have unlocked for your account. But I guess there should be some limit, as some core skills aren't available right away.
Also, elites at a skill trainer? Do you not get the idea of elites? You have to EARN your elite skills, not just buy them.
/signed for giving all unlocked non-elite skills (even though I don't know what the Guild Hall skill trainer has)
Also, elites at a skill trainer? Do you not get the idea of elites? You have to EARN your elite skills, not just buy them.
/signed for giving all unlocked non-elite skills (even though I don't know what the Guild Hall skill trainer has)
!!! aa !!!!
/notsigned
think of balance in the game dude omfg a lvl 2 would then be ablke to get ne skill he wanted
think of balance in the game dude omfg a lvl 2 would then be ablke to get ne skill he wanted
Draygonia_Advanced
I was thinking how great it would be to spend 100k for a skill trainer and than I got one for my guild hall to find it only has base skills.
What would be awesome is to be able to access skills depending on your advancement in the game. For example, if you were to get all the way to amnoon oasis, you would get access to all of the skills from all of the cities with skill trainers you have visited up until then!
This way, 100k is definitely worth it! Same idea in factions too. Basically if you explore the whole game, you get access to every skill from every skill trainer available. That sounds fair right?
Who says /signed?
What would be awesome is to be able to access skills depending on your advancement in the game. For example, if you were to get all the way to amnoon oasis, you would get access to all of the skills from all of the cities with skill trainers you have visited up until then!
This way, 100k is definitely worth it! Same idea in factions too. Basically if you explore the whole game, you get access to every skill from every skill trainer available. That sounds fair right?
Who says /signed?
TGgold
Shouldn't he sell any skill that you've unlocked on your acount?
Or is he bugged?
All the skill trainers now (haven't tested the guild hall one...) sell skills that have either been unlocked on another character on that account. So, he, in a way, shuold progress with you as you go through the game : )
Or is he bugged?
All the skill trainers now (haven't tested the guild hall one...) sell skills that have either been unlocked on another character on that account. So, he, in a way, shuold progress with you as you go through the game : )
Aarroe of Gilgamesh
you are right that skill trainers everywhere will sell you already unlocked skills for your account. however those skill trainers are all tied to a particular campaign. i'm thinking that the guild hall one only has core skills because it isn't tied to either campaign. you did however get your money's worth because it does say core skills only before you buy it, however sad that might be for 100k. i'd like to see this get implimented, but not at the cost of pulling programmers away from working on the larger issues.
Draygonia_Advanced
It shouldnt be too hard to install the system and the benefits will be greater with increased pvp and gvg I imagine.
Undivine
It actually kind of annoyed me how useless the guild hall trainer is. He is indisputably the worst skill trainer in the game.
I don't understand why they don't simply make him show all the skills you have unlocked. After all, if you don't have Prophecies then obviously you haven't unlocked any Prophecies skills. There is no point in restricting it to just the core skills. Then he would be at least a bit more useful. All he's good for not is Signet of Capture.
I don't understand why they don't simply make him show all the skills you have unlocked. After all, if you don't have Prophecies then obviously you haven't unlocked any Prophecies skills. There is no point in restricting it to just the core skills. Then he would be at least a bit more useful. All he's good for not is Signet of Capture.
Terra Xin
eh, maybe theyll do something about it in 6 months time.... wait it out...
Slainster
this really miffed me too, as i forked out the 100k for my guild.. im still trying to figure out what for
Stupid Shizno
Add a secondary profession changer npc too =[
!!! aa !!!!
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I was thinking how great it would be to spend 100k for a skill trainer and than I got one for my guild hall to find it only has base skills.
What would be awesome is to be able to access skills depending on your advancement in the game. For example, if you were to get all the way to amnoon oasis, you would get access to all of the skills from all of the cities with skill trainers you have visited up until then! This way, 100k is definitely worth it! Same idea in factions too. Basically if you explore the whole game, you get access to every skill from every skill trainer available. That sounds fair right? Who says /signed? |
/signed
one of the very few ideas i sign! i have signed
3/26 ideas! lol!
Draygonia_Advanced
/signed!
WOOT! I GOT A PERSON THAT DOESNT USUALLY SIGN TO SIGN! See? Please ANET, do this for us fans! Even it it costs thousands of dollars to implement!
WOOT! I GOT A PERSON THAT DOESNT USUALLY SIGN TO SIGN! See? Please ANET, do this for us fans! Even it it costs thousands of dollars to implement!
llsektorll
everything unlocked except for few elites.... 100k on skill trainer in base is a bad idea unless you have spare skill points in your pvp charecters from using them over and over.
/unsigned
/unsigned
SnipiousMax
My simple suggestion is to make all of the skills you've unlocked on your account (barring elites) on both continents availible to your Guild Hall skill trainer. They might as well drop the other shoe, since you can already do this with skill trainers to a point.
Tuoba Hturt Eht
This issue has been brought up and discuss before, and yes, I would very much like the Skill Trainer to be able to teach both Tyrian and Canthan skills.
/Signed for an improved Guild Hall Skill Trainer
/Signed for an improved Guild Hall Skill Trainer
Terra Xin
the suggestion isnt to have the trainer teach both Tyrian and Canthan skills, only core skills and skills that the player has previously unlocked
SnipiousMax
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... only core skills and skills that the player has previously unlocked
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Tuoba Hturt Eht
SnipiousMax:
"My simple suggestion is to make all of the skills you've unlocked on your account (barring elites) on both continents availible to your Guild Hall skill trainer."
Please explain the underlined and bolded line of text.
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Terra Xin:
"the suggestion isnt to have the trainer teach both Tyrian and Canthan skills, only core skills and skills that the player has previously unlocked"
The Guild Hall Trainer already trains you all the skills that you have unlocked for your account.
"My simple suggestion is to make all of the skills you've unlocked on your account (barring elites) on both continents availible to your Guild Hall skill trainer."
Please explain the underlined and bolded line of text.
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Terra Xin:
"the suggestion isnt to have the trainer teach both Tyrian and Canthan skills, only core skills and skills that the player has previously unlocked"
The Guild Hall Trainer already trains you all the skills that you have unlocked for your account.
SnipiousMax
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Originally Posted by Tuoba Hturt Eht
Please explain the underlined and bolded line of text.
The Guild Hall Trainer already trains you all the skills that you have unlocked for your account. |
AJM
/signed
At present, the only people who use the trainer in my hall are newbies I recruit.
At present, the only people who use the trainer in my hall are newbies I recruit.
TadaceAce
This would be nice, be able to get your good skills and build before having to go through hell (zen daijun) and back again (mayhem in the market).