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WasAGuest

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2006

14 Jun 2006 at 13:36 - 41

Quote:

Originally Posted by KamikazeChicken

1. Guild Wars PvE was never intended to hold a person's intrest indefinitely. PvP is supposed to be the true "end game" content, so try doing that, if PvE is becoming tiresome.

I feel the complete opposite on that. I can't stand the PvP in GW. I think it's terrible. lol I prefer SF and the Titan quests to the GW PvP gaming.

On topic though, I am looking forward to Chapter 3 as it's the team that made Proph; and not the goobers that made Factions. As for the code 7s, I would just keep on Anet support and send them a ticket each time it happens; that way they can keep on Alter.net about the problems. You err 7'd five times in an evening, send in 5 tickets. If each person did this each time they got disconnected, someone at Anet is gonna get ticked and start getting on Alter.net about it.

CyberNigma

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jan 2006

San Antonio, TX

W/R

14 Jun 2006 at 14:40 - 42

Quote:

Originally Posted by WasAGuest

I feel the complete opposite on that. I can't stand the PvP in GW. I think it's terrible. lol I prefer SF and the Titan quests to the GW PvP gaming.

On topic though, I am looking forward to Chapter 3 as it's the team that made Proph; and not the goobers that made Factions. As for the code 7s, I would just keep on Anet support and send them a ticket each time it happens; that way they can keep on Alter.net about the problems. You err 7'd five times in an evening, send in 5 tickets. If each person did this each time they got disconnected, someone at Anet is gonna get ticked and start getting on Alter.net about it.

There's also the other possibility. Many of us used the /bug feature when we encountered problems. They just removed the feature.

GloryFox

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2006

Good ol' USA, where everyone else wants to be

Now Plays World of Warcraft on Whisperwind

14 Jun 2006 at 14:50 - 43

I am happy to say that after 1400 hours of playing this year I have had 2 err 7s both were contributed to being on a wireless connection. Wireless is not stable technology so if you use a wireless router you will most likely get some error 7s.

Nevin

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jul 2005

14 Jun 2006 at 15:01 - 44

Personally I have Optimum Online (Thats a New York only thing, I think.) So I never suffer from Err 7. Although people in my parties do, and yes it is annoying. But its not life threatening, having new content would be more fun.

DeanBB

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2005

Arizona

Wizardry Players Guild, http://4guildwars.7.forumer.com

14 Jun 2006 at 15:12 - 45

I can't even remember the last time I lost my connection, no problem here. As others have said there is more to this issue than Anet's servers.

I haven't bothered to read thru all this, but has it been stated that Anet has multiple teams yet? It is quite possible that the team working on chapter 3 has nothing to do with updates and fixes, so why would you think work on the next chapter would impact this issue?

Loviatar

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Feb 2005

14 Jun 2006 at 15:14 - 46

Quote:

Originally Posted by WasAGuest

If each person did this each time they got disconnected, someone at Anet is gonna get ticked and start getting on Alter.net about it.

hi

they have been on it for some time already.

just to let you know they are not ignoring it.

it depends where you are as i have had a total of two 007 in 1000+ hours and those were early on

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anet
It does appear Alter.net is where the packetloss begins to occur. We have known of this issue for a while now and it has been escalated to Network Engineering. Network Engineering is currently in contact with Alter.net and working with them to find a resolution to the packetloss issue. Unfortunately at this time there is nothing you or I can do to speed up the resolution but hopefully Alter.net will resolve it as soon as possible. I appreciate your patience.

Loviatar

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Feb 2005

14 Jun 2006 at 15:18 - 47

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeanBB

I haven't bothered to read thru all this, but has it been stated that Anet has multiple teams yet? ?

sorry for double post.

Anet has 2 teams working on chapters and a 3rd for events and other things as needed.

possibly a fourth team (guess not confirmed) for features like reconnecy/trade/etc.

but the first 3 teams are confirmed by ANET

MSecorsky

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2005

So Cal

The Sinister Vanguard

Me/

14 Jun 2006 at 15:29 - 48

I'm not excited about Chapter Three... yet... I'm still not done with Chapter 2. Adding another chapter too soon... too much to do...

It's that damned Alliance Battle thing that's screwing me up. Instead of taking my characters through the game I keep taking my assassin back for more ABs. Or Aspenwood... that too.

Had to force my assassin to go out looking for chests so he could work towards his level two treasure hunter... found a new town while I was at it! (Kurzick one, way southeast... fourth part of uniting the houses quest...

So much to do, so little time...

dreamhunk

Banned

Join Date: Mar 2006

:P

E/Me

14 Jun 2006 at 16:10 - 49

I beleave chapter 3 will either make or break anet. If if chapter 3 is not up tp par. I bet there will not be as meny people buying chapter 4. sale will start to slow right down. I mean anet has already hurt their fan base.

lyra_song

Hell's Protector

Join Date: Oct 2005

R/Mo

14 Jun 2006 at 16:44 - 50

Im looking forward to chapter 3, once i get my new purchaseable slots >.>

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anyways..the whole Double Agent Er 007 issue is quite a bother. I always encounter it either me, or someone in my party anytime we go UW trapping. We recently went trapping to get a spider for a guildmate. He er07 out after about 3 minutes. The next trip, two teammates (one in Australia, one here i the USA) errored out at the EXACT moment. They have zero problems with internet, chatting, etc, only GW itself disconnects, so its not them or their ISPs. I myself have gotten the er 7 a total of 5 times my whole GW experience, and most of my disconnects are due to lagspikes that affect my whole network (and not guild wars specifically).

Sir Skullcrasher

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2005

California

15 over 50 [Rare]

W/Mo

14 Jun 2006 at 16:55 - 51

Must buy chapter 3 collector edition!

WasAGuest

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2006

14 Jun 2006 at 17:53 - 52

Quote:

Originally Posted by CyberNigma

There's also the other possibility. Many of us used the /bug feature when we encountered problems. They just removed the feature.

heh, it's been so long since thats worked I forgot about it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Loviatar

it depends where you are as i have had a total of two 007 in 1000+ hours and those were early on

I'm with you there, I've only had a couple over 1500+ hours. However a friend of mine gets one or two a day - he even thought it was his PC/connection. He ended up buying a new PC and paying for home service to come out and check his connection (ouch!).

Nothing wrong with giving companies a little push when it comes to technical issues though (at least I think). A little nudge here and there might go a long way, we never know. *logs into find himself banned for "pesting" the techs*

/bad joke

Quantum Duck

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2006

Err7

Me/

14 Jun 2006 at 18:36 - 53

So let me get this straight... You want the level designers to stop building missions, the artists to stop making models, the designers to stop putting together new professions and skills, the gameplay programmers to stop making gameplay features and skills and such. And then you want them all to do what? Go help the server tech programmers make a reconnect feature? Go fix the internet so no one drops packets anymore?

They are making a new chapter. They are working on reconnects. Each will be done when they are done, and since the skills involved in making each are only marginally related (I guess gameplay programmers could try to learn enough server programming to help out?) the work on one almost certainly has virtually no relation to work on the other.

I havn't gotten more than a couple Err7's this year, so it's not a big deal for me. I guess I have a good connection. I'm sorry for those for whom it is a big deal, but blaming ArenaNet for your network problems (Whether from your personal connection or from some ISP in between) doesn't solve anything. And asking them not to work on unrelated things also strikes me as pretty silly.

Loviatar

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Feb 2005

14 Jun 2006 at 19:08 - 54

Quote:

Originally Posted by WasAGuest

heh, it's been so long since thats worked I forgot about it.

I'm with you there, I've only had a couple over 1500+ hours. However a friend of mine gets one or two a day - he even thought it was his PC/connection. He ended up buying a new PC and paying for home service to come out and check his connection (ouch!).

i am glad the bugs were finally gotten out of my SBC/DSL before GW as i had 47 service calls where they started by replacing the squirrel chewed dropline
replaced the 40 year old house connector box
said the interior wiring was perfect (i replaced that myself a year earlier)
then checked out my home brew pc as perfect
but the modem settings (factory) were not optimum (meaning wrong)
and finally the last tech out said i will check out the main fiber optic connection a couple blocks away.

he swapped me onto a fresh connection there and poof all fixed.

SBC gave me 6 months credit as compensation so no beef there

Ure Maker

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2006

yer right....

Suicide Bunnies

R/Me

14 Jun 2006 at 21:12 - 55

i used to get error 7 like once every 2 months when i had 2meg broadband

but....

now i got 8meg and no errors....yet....xD

Beat_Go_Stick

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Feb 2006

14 Jun 2006 at 22:01 - 56

Quote:

Originally Posted by LordMahal

Would help if they linked chapters a bit more... I was upset that we still have not fought the Charr invasion off yet. Poor ascalon.

QFT!!!

SO we helped a few of the ascalonians to escape the lands, saved the world, and never looked back? Well, there were a couple skirmishes after we killed the bad guy but still, if Ascalon had been my home, I'd have gone back there and carved through the ranks of Charr like a hot knife through butter.

....Freakin' invinci-monks, farming Warriors, unbeatable Mesmers, armies of undead, rainclouds of arrows, and meteors from hell!

FOR ASCALON!!!!

Priest Of Sin

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Dec 2005

Sitting upon Kerrigan's Throne.

Live For The Swarm [ZERG]

Me/N

14 Jun 2006 at 22:09 - 57

1. I care about chapter three.
2. Error 7 is on YOUR side. I have never had an Err7 that wasn't my fault.
3. PvP isn't end game. FoW, UW, UW2 is.

Halc yon

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2006

Sardelac Sanitarium Society

W/

14 Jun 2006 at 22:16 - 58

Um, so is this thread about Ch3 or Err7? Are the 2 intertwined in some infinite matrix that I can't quite seem to see? OP please elaborate.

Yes, I do care about chapter 3. Anyone who plays Guild Wars does. That's because it only affects about every single aspect of Guild Wars.

I have only experienced the Err7 1 or 2 times a long time ago, some time last year. That was because of my connection though. The game runs fine for me now.

If you guys are looking for a real chapter 3 thread then go here.
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s....php?t=3056420

fiery

Banned

Join Date: Oct 2005

maryland

InYurFace Gaming [IYF]

R/

14 Jun 2006 at 22:17 - 59

I care about chapter 3, but in the end a game is a game, but I mainly like the people I play with than the content of the game, weird eh

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Saix The Spartan

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2006

A/

14 Jun 2006 at 22:37 - 60

Well don't be bitching bout anet, atleast there hundreds of times better than EA...

Age

Hall Hero

Join Date: Jul 2005

California Canada/BC

STG Administrator

Mo/

14 Jun 2006 at 23:57 - 61

/Fustrated

over E7s

RoFL

unienaule

I dunt even get "Retired"

Join Date: Aug 2005

Fifteen Over Fifty [Rare]

15 Jun 2006 at 00:03 - 62

I have to LOL at the people who say error 7 is on my side. It's happened several times where I've gotten an error, logged back in, and tons of people in the district I'm in/ in IRC are all talking about how they just got Err7ed out. Now, if it's something in some service provider somewhere, maybe, but it's not that all Err7 people use wireless or dialup or some stupid crap like that. If it's related to where I live, relocating to be able to play GW better is kinda lame. So, by putting pressure on Anet, they have a bit more power than I do to convince service providers to get it right, since they know they won't get as many new customers if their game develops a reputation for disconnecting.

TheLordOfBlah

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jan 2006

California

None

Mo/N

15 Jun 2006 at 06:18 - 63

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snowman

LOL

Of course it wont have more content, its an expansion, not a standalone!.. since when does an expansion have MORE content than a standalone.

I'm hoping that was sarcasm...

markus_thom

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2006

Australia(the land of lesser games)

neptunes grace

R/W

15 Jun 2006 at 08:40 - 64

Quote:

Originally Posted by LordMahal

Them getting 3 out is just about making money. Them doing updates to current games is about taking care of the players... You can see which takes priority.

They can still make money by upgrading content on the current games its called upgrades.
hopefully in the new chapters they add content to the first 2 chapters as it needs it.

CyberNigma

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jan 2006

San Antonio, TX

W/R

15 Jun 2006 at 12:30 - 65

Quote:

Originally Posted by Priest Of Sin

2. Error 7 is on YOUR side. I have never had an Err7 that wasn't my fault.

Well, according to the posts above about ANet's explanation that it's partially Alter.Net's fault for packetloss, you must have titanium balls to just call ArenaNet liars outright.

BTW, one route through Alter.Net doesn't necessary equal ALL routes through Alter.net. It's kind of like saying I've never had Wing's Axe drop for me therefore nobody has unless they hacked it themselves :-) Just because a person doesn't witness something themselves doesn't mean others don't.. I've had some and I know that some were on my end, while some were probably on the other end (or in-between). I'm over 18 though and realize that I don't know everything, so I could be completely wrong on all accounts..

Error 7's can be really annoying at the wrong times, and I doubt that it will ever be completely resolved (I mean it IS the internet). The best remediation will be when they can add reconnects. Even then, some people will just have bad luck (half our team disconnected during the rush to hold the hill in Hall of Heroes - no reconnect will help that lol).

For what it's worth, just remember that it's not all ANet's fault (via their provider), and it's not all your fault (through your provider). Sometimes it just happens somewhere in between and go on with the game as best you can. Having guildies help out makes things a bit easier, but doesn't take away the pain of being disconnected in The Deep lol..

WasAGuest

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2006

15 Jun 2006 at 12:40 - 66

Quote:

Originally Posted by CyberNigma

Well, according to the posts above about ANet's explanation that it's partially Alter.Net's fault for packetloss, you must have titanium balls to just call ArenaNet liars outright.

BTW, one route through Alter.Net doesn't necessary equal ALL routes through Alter.net. It's kind of like saying I've never had Wing's Axe drop for me therefore nobody has unless they hacked it themselves :-) Just because a person doesn't witness something themselves doesn't mean others don't.. I've had some and I know that some were on my end, while some were probably on the other end (or in-between). I'm over 18 though and realize that I don't know everything, so I could be completely wrong on all accounts..

Error 7's can be really annoying at the wrong times, and I doubt that it will ever be completely resolved (I mean it IS the internet). The best remediation will be when they can add reconnects. Even then, some people will just have bad luck (half our team disconnected during the rush to hold the hill in Hall of Heroes - no reconnect will help that lol).

For what it's worth, just remember that it's not all ANet's fault (via their provider), and it's not all your fault (through your provider). Sometimes it just happens somewhere in between and go on with the game as best you can. Having guildies help out makes things a bit easier, but doesn't take away the pain of being disconnected in The Deep lol..

.... and Loviatar's squirrels seem to be enjoying causing mischief as well. Squirrels? Time for some squirrel stew if you ask me. lol Sorry Loviatar, that was funny though - got an image of a squirrel with devil horns biting on the wires... evil rodents

On Topic: I agree with Cyber here. Even when Anet moves the data to a new server I excpect many days of frequent code 7s (probably more then previously) untill all is set up and moving steadily. I'm sure they will do their best to limit that, but like Cyber said, "It is the internet".

Loviatar

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Feb 2005

15 Jun 2006 at 14:51 - 67

Quote:

Originally Posted by WasAGuest

.... and Loviatar's squirrels seem to be enjoying causing mischief as well. Squirrels? Time for some squirrel stew if you ask me. lol Sorry Loviatar, that was funny though - got an image of a squirrel with devil horns biting on the wires... evil rodents

".

according to the SBC tech in a 1mile radius squirrels are their biggest problem chewing on the wires (too expensive to armor them) and they just nick the insulation.

fine over the long hot dry summer but when the first rain comes and shorts hoppen?

no squirrel stew as it is fun to watch them and hear them jumping from the tree and chasing each other across the roof

Vahn Roi

Forge Runner

Join Date: Apr 2006

[HiDE]

15 Jun 2006 at 14:56 - 68

To me, it would seem Prophecies, being the start of it all, would naturally have greater content and less "endgame" area whereas expansions will be somewhat smaller in content but be mostly "endgame" area and only contain a very small portion of "pre" area (for those who are just entering the series) The fact that the "pre island" was not originally accessable to Tyria-born characters supports this theory.

Yes, I am looking forward to Nightfall, yes I will buy it, yes I do expect it to close to the size of Factions, and no that does not bother me one bit.

AnnaCloud9

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2005

Minnesota

Well if you're bored, then you're boring!

R/

15 Jun 2006 at 15:36 - 69

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vahn Roi

To me, it would seem Prophecies, being the start of it all, would naturally have greater content and less "endgame" area whereas expansions will be somewhat smaller in content but be mostly "endgame" area and only contain a very small portion of "pre" area (for those who are just entering the series) The fact that the "pre island" was not originally accessable to Tyria-born characters supports this theory.

Yes, I am looking forward to Nightfall, yes I will buy it, yes I do expect it to close to the size of Factions, and no that does not bother me one bit.

After reading the entire 4 pages of this post, I finally found the quote that speaks for me quite nicely, and it's to the point!

SolidShadow

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2006

holland

Mo/Me

16 Jun 2006 at 09:45 - 70

i hope there will be a /age rank.