A general decline in the level of player sportsmanship/friendlyness

Just keep helping those in need and know when to not party with selfish moronic jerks

I remember not to far back, I was trying to get into a group for the UW. I found one that required TS, no big deal, I log in to TS with them, they begin going through the plan. I was to be one of the tanks, so I was being "tutored" in how to hold the aggro... I had my FoW set on(geuss they didnt notice) and they felt the need to explain anyway. When they were done explaining, I said np I've been here many times I know the drill.

Saying "I know the drill" made the leader of the group call me some nasty names then kick me from both TS and the group.
On the other hand though, I've been with groups that would do anything to help, so I geuss the issue evens itself out.

I haven't really noticed, other than some 'tarded smacktalkers in Aspenwood (and those horrible horrible AFKers), fun thing is that talking back 'normally' to the smacktalkers usually uncovers a totally different person from the 'lol owned u noob'-generalized PvP asshat, more to a normal human being.

And I've completed the game (Prophecies ~8 times, Factions 2 times (and 4 times up to the places where to get 15k Luxon/Kurzick armor) with PUGs and I haven't had that much negative experiences by doing those. Most of the time they kill stuff faster than me and my henchies, often there's few chatty people, and there's the occasional 'Look at me frrrreeenzzzyyyy'-tanks and other horrible horrible builds, but.. I've managed, and they've been fun almost all the times.

I had fun at Cavalon yesterday as well, a person was spamming 'WTS pm offer' over and over again in trade channel, me and some other peep wrote on trade as well, that what he was selling. But no reply.

I then finally PM'd the guy with '1 gold!', only to get a reply in French. After a while, I was asked if I spoke it. I said no, and tried saying that what he was spamming on trade made no sense. He didn't understand. Sooo, I whip up Babelfish, translate 'What are you selling?' to French, paste it. Another reply in French, and babelfish couldn't crack it either. After some 5 minutes, I had solved the mystery (I gave up, walked to the guy, and told him to show me the item), after which I PM'd him ''WTS Shiro's Sword, pm''. He actually suggested ''WTS babelfish, pm'' after I mentioned that I was using babelfish to translate my stuff to French. Dunno if it's that much on topic tho Atleast I helped someone XD

There are 8 year olds who act mature and there are plenty of adults who act incredibly immature, judging someone by their age is a stereotype, and one that is usually wrong.

I have a few high lvl chars and do UW a bit. When I get any drops I dont need I usually take them to Ascalon after and give them away to people for free. Its not like I need more cash and I have all the weapons I am going to use. You usually see 2 kinds of people when you do this.

1. This person thinks there is a catch or you are lying. This person cant believe that you would want to give something away for nothing, so they dont bother inquiring.

or

2. This person wants all the free weapons you have, or at least multiples, and this person may or may not also try asking you for money as well.

Why cant people just be happy with 1 free weapon

I dont think there is a decline, and you cant really conclude this based on a few recent bad experiences the Guildwars community is so massive you could never comprehend this kind of statistic.

I would note though that there seems to be less people helping noobs and being rude to them when they do nooby things.. I think this results in those noobs growing up to act in the same way!

My guild is full of pretty experienced a nice people.. sometimes I recruit daisy fresh 'just bought the game' noobs... and they moan and groan about him and never help out!

But I like to help them, true you have to be patient! but they will forever appreciate it! then one day that person will help someone else..

I used to do that too Ariana, but one too many times I saw people I'd just given XYZ to run off yelling "WTS XYZ!".

The other type of people who annoy me are idiots who demand to see that gold drop that you just picked up. I transfer all unidentified golds to one character for identification to help with titles, yet when I try to explain this to the idiot who says "Show me that drop" (notice no use of "Please"), I seem to incur their wrath.
One even threatened to report me because I didn't show him an item.
I know that a party kick option would be open to abuse, but SOMETHING needs to be done about the idiot quotient.

I like to consider myself a nice person..Although i'm probably a complete prick in PvP (I get too competitive). Whenever I find anything I don't plan on using, I give them away to either guild members, or to new people in guild wars. About 95% of the time i get a ty, so the community isn't that bad. I have however not had many jerk encounters and when i have, surprisingly, reasoning works on them .

As a side note, I am a teenager.

well said

I havent seen any difference since GuildWars launched over a year ago

Don't think the % of rude people has changed much since the beginning. I see less newbies but there's the same amount of poor mannered players. Not too many luckily, but I mostly party with guildies so I really can't say much. Didn't meet many unrespectful players in GvG either (lots on RA, HA and TA though).

You are dead inside, I pity you

A year ago things were different in GW. Everyone was running around pre-searing enjoying emotes and pets and killing the big bad charr. Now-a-days, people appear generally less tolerant and less forgiving. I try to be helpful and respectful, answering questions in town and giving people the benefit of the doubt and what not, but I suppose I too fall prey to it from time to time.

I come from the flight sim community, and there is definitely a different mentality there than in FPS's. I have seen the occassional kids whining about this and that, but in the end, most people there had a general level of respect -- gg or gj was almost always said when someone had gotten the better of someone else. Of course, there is a big difference -- in a flight sim you all have the same basic equipment... it all works and looks basically the same (asside from custom paint jobs). There is no money, wealth, vanity items, or economy for that matter -- which I guess goes a long way to stopping greed.

I've also played FPS's, and in those it's almost always "I pzwned u! I teh uber leet kilzer"... similar comentary to what I sometimes see in GW PvP (or places like the Grotto). If you mix that mentality with vanity items and an economy, I guess you get what we see (far too much of, imho) today in GW. -_-

Best bet is probably to find a guild (if you're lucky enough to do so) that suites your playing style.

dont pitty morons, it will be lost on them.

i brush most of the rudeness off except for people who bash honest questions, nothing grates my nerves faster than someone who gets slammed for asking questions, how else do people learn?

as far as good role models, isnt that the parents job? dont blame sports, etc etc for jerks, its 99% the parents fault for kids being rude.

i couldnt tell you how many times i ate soap for calling my sister names, or the famous "leather strap ass whippin" for being a jackass in the store.

i blame spare the rod spoil the child BS of todays youth, and yesterdays for that matter

todays youth dont have to be responsable for there actions hence the cheesedick attitudes online and in real life

my 2cp

Most of the PvE players I meet are friendly, but it's usually an occasional PvP player that pisses me off to no end.

I took the time to groom my PvE ranger to do Alliance Battles, got nice 15k Canthan Armor w/sup vigor and the other runes I needed for my build. Also bought a Storm Bow with perfect stats and mods. This is equal to any PvP character that I could roll, it just looks nicer! The first thing that happened last night when I got a group for Alliance Battles, the monk in the group said "Storm bows sucks, Storm bows are for PvE noobs!". Then he went on to critique my build and and tell me what I should have brought!

Well, I didn't die, and we won the Alliance battle 500 - 125. After the match I just said that "This PvE noob needs to take his storm bow and find a friendly group to play with". I guess that some people just don't understand that "Alliance Battles" are a form of PvP for the PvE'rs. If you really want organized PvP, then take your uber leetness to GvG or HoH.

There are jerks in the game, and there are jerks in real life. Grow a thicker skin and look past it.

When the game was new no one knew what to do or expect. We would work together to figure it out. There wasn't someone we could ask for all of the answers. We didn't know what was the highest armor level and what town we could get it in. We didn't know how big the world of Tyiria was so we explored the whole thing because we were having fun and wanted to find new stuff. Now people explore just to get a title because they already know what is out there by looking at a map online.

Now people are on their 4th+ character and are tired of the steps required to get them to full strength so now have very little patience for the new people who have not learned everything yet. They forget that these people they are so pissed off at for doing stupid stuff was them a couple of months ago.

The next group is the person who goes to websites like Guru and reads through all of the forums and learns everything there is about the game before they even buy it. All they want to do is have all of the Uber stuff they read about online. They want to be that 55 monk without learning the way a monk even works by going through the whole game and learning from doing stupid things. They will show up and ask for runners to whatever town even if they dont know where it is. They want that one specific weapon they read about or the skills for that kick ass new build that someone just posted yesterday.

Sometimes people forget why they started to play the game in the first place. Think back to when you first played the game. How many stupid things did you do and laugh about.

Thats true, right now, all the people that can explode on you are probably getting tired of doing the campaign with their 5th character, and seeing people mess up with their 1st character, can set them off, or anything that aggrivates them in the least, like them not getting what they want, or getting an item and the price they want to pay.

Good thing I'm going to quit GW as soon as I get an Xbox 360, sell all my non monk items, and keep my monk guy until there comes an expansion i want (and nightfall doesn't look that good)


The truth is, people just seem to get more impatient, every day, and that can mean alot of jerks.

at least its not a FPS like CS or Unreal where everyone calls you a fag if you get a headshot on them -.-

There seems to be a lot less patience now, especially in Factions....
I was with a PUG trying to do the elite mission at Urgoz; the first time, we got through the first group that spawned. At the 2nd group, we died. Rather than trying again as a group, there seemed to be some secret vote, and someone made the decision to boot anyone that didn't have TS/Vent (I was one of those booted). It's hard enough trying to get a PUG of 12 for that mission, but when you've stood around for 20-30 minutes in a PUG and get booted like that spawns some hard feelings that will carry over for a while.
I was pissed off enough to ask WTF, and got a weak answer like, "sorry, we had a vote and booted you".
I got another PUG together (WITHOUT TS/Vent), and we beat it. Still mad, though; and when we completed it, and went back to Urgoz, I saw the same group still there. I whispered one guy, "What happened?" He tells me they died. I had to whisper to the team leader, "Just did it without TS....hope you're here all night."
What get's me upset, after thinking about it; I never would have done something like that a few months ago.....