2 Million Purchasers of Factions? Where are they then?

According to the links, and AN, they have sold over 2 million copies of factions (and chapter 1). Ok, that is just great for them, etc. But as I am standing in say, jade quarry, or gyala hatchery, trying to get a group for the mission, or watching the countdown timer cycle endlessly.. I have to wonder.. where-tf are these 2 million people...Oh wait.. they must all be farming.

I hear people complaining about the lack of motivation, or people in the chapter 1 districts trying to find groups for missions, and with factions only having been out a little while, and it's already like this.. what is it going to be like when the next chapter comes out?

The upcoming dragon event is a sign of arena nets lack of interest as far as it comes to keeping people interested in pve content that already exists in the game. Yay, a dragon mask, cute, and sure, I'll go after a few for my characters, but in all honesty.. I didn't pay 50 dollars for chapter one, and 70 dollars for chapter two for flipping masks and a 6 day farming festival for the next 'candy canes' or 'spiked eggnog'

It is funny that the only districts that are ever full or occupied, are the trading districts. Too bad I can't gather a party for the jade quarry or aspenwood there.

I can't wait until nwn2 comes out X.X

Because all 2 million accounts will be on the same time.

Because time zones don't exist either.

Because people play GW 24/7/365 and live off IV's.

Because all areas are so active that you never have to wait for a group.

Wait...

This is reality. Scratch the afore mentioned stuff.

Well, I bought three copies of Factions for myself and family members, but for whatever reason, we just can't seem to get into it like we did Prophesies.

Just because 2 million have been sold dosen't mean those 2 million still play the game...wowo, people Stop playing ya know?

Hmm. I have one character completed the game, another closing in on it... but those damned ABs keep pulling me from what I'm trying to do...

Only really seen problems in Jade Quarry as far as people. For some reason people are avoiding a really fun environ.

As for where is everyone? Well, last night at the Monastery there were some 15 districts populated about 11PM Pacific time, so there's a small bunch there, not counting the rest of the continent and Tyria.

Consider that multiple purchases by an individual count as individual units as well. I've only purchased one Prophecies and one Factions... that's two units sold there.

People are playing, just not necessarily where you are. Been to ToA lately? How's the crowd there? (I haven't been back since Factions started...)

dont forget europe, japan, korea etc, theyre at different districts in their area. (they dont have american districts) and add america.. boom 2 million yay


PS: Jade Quarry has no 1 in it try aspenwood

I think the above poster was talking about the alliance battles u get from the guy in your guild hall where you seemd to be talking about aspeenwood/jade quarry. I know i personaly don't play aspeenwood/jade quarry as i find it alot more fun teaming up with 3other friends in AB then i do getting paird up with a bunch of random ppl. As for missions ill always take henchies over ppl as henchies move at your pace they don't rush/whine/bitch/etc like some pugs. Only time i actually get in a grp is for quests(somtimes) or if a friend/guildie wants to come along.

It's funny you should ask.. I happened to meander through TOA the other day to buy ectos and it was 5 districts with 1-3 full. I thought, 'wow, we must have favour' wrong. It was a ton of people literally standing around waiting for favour. I couldn't believe it. Turns out, america was 3 wins away and this was all these people had to do....

Firstly, thank you.. and I agree that it is very difficult to see all this game has to offer, due to lack of participation. I haven't even gotten to do Jade Quarry on any of my characters and frankly, it dissapoints me as well, because I have fun doing fort aspenwood when available, and I hear jade is supposed to be better >.<

Jade Quarry is dead because they made Fort Aspenwood give an unbalanced'ly higher faction reward for the time.

Other point: Not all Avid PvErs are in an XoO guild - because I'm not

back to the main point: the total sold number is alittle misleading. The online game Runescape has over 6million accounts, and at the height of the day maybe 150,000 at most is on - 90% of which are in the "popular" areas and farming - just like Guild Wars.

Elona Reach ID1

Consider yourself lucky to not be able to play those things...
Aspenwood itself for example, Kurzick can't win. I have the numbers, the observations and theories and everything. But I never posted them on any forums because I expected replies like the ones you got.

I'll just put it here and hide...

After 45 Aspenwood battles, the win loss:

Both teams have an equal amount of players
Kurzick wins: 0
Luxon wins: 15


The Luxon team has more leeches or leavers than the Kurzick team(Minimum 2 player difference)
Kurzick wins: 14
Luxon wins: 5


The Kurzick team has more leeches or leavers than the Luxon team (Minimum 2 player difference like 4 vs 6 or 6 vs 8)
Kurzick wins: 0
Luxon wins: 8

Inconclusive: I didn't know exactly who was where and what was going on.. too much confusion and inablity to figure out who has less people.
Kurzick wins: 1
Luxon wins: 2



Notes:
- I don't care if one side has 1 guy less than the other side. The difference usually isn't that big then. However, with 2 people less, you see a major change in gameplay. When there are leeches on the Luxon side.. with 2 people less, Luxon still wins. With 3 people less, I still saw luxon win.

- With 8 vs 8, Kurzick NEVER wins.


... The reason i don't post this anywhere is because it proves that all those builds people posted so far.. are useless.
The numbers would piss people off. Think about it. Bonders on the gates.. who cares, you're losing anyway. The only times Kurzicks can win is when the Luxons don't show up.
This gives people the illusion that their builds kick ass while in fact, they're really just laming it.

When I play on Luxon side and inform the Kurzicks that we have 3 people less, they tell me to stfu and that I suck and the Luxons are Suxons. (I'm normally a Kurzick)
After the Kurzicks win, I map to the Kurzick fort aspenwood and see them cheering and sharing builds and talking about how effective they are and how much the Luxons suck.


The numbers prove that neither side sucks but the map itself is complete crap.
Wins are determined by how many people leech/leave. NOT by builds, NOT by skill.

This could be the reason why not many people play those areas. It doesn't matter what you do or how you do it. If luxons don't have leavers then Luxons cannot lose.
Also don't forget that PvP chars can't enter these missions. Only PvE chars. This results in people attempting to use farmingbuilds here.
You can't believe how many wammos have tried cyclone axing me to death... after they turned on mending and live vicariously... Do I look like a troll?

The gatebonders are an attempted farmingbuild too. Some guy made a thread about "Farming Aspenwood" and talked about strategies and crap...
Those threads are completely useless because it is all determined by 1 number: the amount of players on Luxon side.

Aspenwood and possibly jade quarry too, are inbalanced pvp intros for PvE players. You're frustrated that you can't enter it.. I'm frustrated that I can...

I go hide now..

Here's my mathematical equation:

2,000,000 purchasers = 1,000,000 factions + 1,000,000 prophecies


1,000,000 factions + 1,000,000 prophecies = Factions(500,000 bots + 500,000 ppl) + Prophecies(500,000 bots + 500,000 ppl)

Factions(500,000 bots + 500,000 ppl) + Prophecies(500,000 bots + 500,000 ppl) = Factions(500,000 bots + [250,000 ppl + 250,000 banned]) + Prophecies(500,000 bots + [250,000 ppl + 250,000 afk])

Therefore GW = 500,000 actual people, 250,000 banned, 250,000 afk, 1,000,000 bots.

The AFK's in AB is driving ppl away from AspenWood and Jade Quarry.

nice essay

nah congrats..you are 1 of the few ppl that posted something worth reading..

in euro winning aspenwood is quite common for kurzick, infact i've won it nearly everytime.

as for jade quarry, people are never there. theres about 1 run at a time atm
this is due to people going there seeing the no opposing party and then labeling it as abandoned and never returning

I also have never had a problem winning on the Kurzich side of Aspenwood ...at least twice a night and I only play 4 or 5 battles per night in Aspenwood.

But. I definitely agree that gyala and jade quarry are always empty when Im online. The only way I got my Rit through Gyala was using the bug and spending an hour pulling mobs. And I've still yet to play the Jade Quarry mission on either side....

The lack of any type of subscription fee makes people treat GW like its any other game. They play until they stop winning and then they put it on the shelf for awhile until they get bored with the latest FPS.

The lack of any type of subscription fee makes people treat GW like its any other game. They play until they stop winning and then they put it on the shelf for awhile until they get bored with the latest FPS.[/QUOTE]

got it in 1...the MMO for the "casual" gamer..things wont get better..prob get worse

This isn't another Factions sucks thread. This thread is actually interesting because in Aspenwood I have trouble finding opponents also. So where are they?

A lot of people probably bought the game and played it once or twice, then quit. Another bunch probably beat prophecies and stopped, and have no interest in buying Factions. The rest have exhausted GW:P and GW:F and are farming because everything else is boring to them.

For those who complain about no opposing party in Fort... you do know they only have a certain amount of games going on at once, right? I think it is about two matches, when one ends those who waited go in, and so on.