Guild Hall's Storage. Add Guild Bank.

Nilator

Nilator

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Dec 2005

Mo/

This a petition for a Guild's Storage. This would be like the storage account for a single player but for the whole guild to access. My guild currently has one in the form of a character of one of the officer's slots. This get's very sad because we only have access when he is online and if he is not busy GvGing, ABing, or whatever he is doing at the time.
The Guild "Bank" as my guild has come to call it, would be storage, and then some. It would have increased size, for the whole guild. And hold more money, not that one person would be putting 1000k+ in that at one time.
Now because this is for the whole guild, a small guild will not be needed a very large one. My guess would be the the same size as a normal storage(20 items I believe) for 1 person in the Guild(it would be the leader). And 1 more additional slot for an item, and 1k more as the max money in the guild bank. This would cap at about 50 items and 1500k in the bank.

Now with all these items and money we can't have everyone have access to this. There would need to be like a limitation on who can use it. The guild leader can grant the ability to officers to limit access to the bank. The guild leader him or herself can also grant that ability. There would also be an ability to grant after a certian time after a Member is in the guild. So if Member A has been in the guild for 5 weeks, but isn't very trust worthy, his or her ability to use the Guild Bank can be taken away. But if Member B has only been in the guild 1 week but we can trust him or her, access to the guild bank can be given to him or her.

This would be one of the Guild Hall's services but would not cost 100k. It would cost 200k. 2 payments of 100k. Not that hard.


Thanks for reading!
Please sign this for a more organized Guild Storage and an increased storage like we were promised!

Valyrian_Steel

Valyrian_Steel

Academy Page

Join Date: Mar 2006

Canada

Sin Azucar

Mo/

This was actually PROMISED by A-Net to come a few weeks after factions release.....still hasn't happened for some reason..

/signed

Stupid Shizno

Stupid Shizno

Banned

Join Date: Jan 2006

Madison, Wisconsin, USA

[eF]

Mo/

Knowing how A-net likes to play with us, this will be some sort of Xunanli (sp?) quest like in factions. Then you must deicde if your guild storage will be allianced with your personal storage or not, and then you can only access it when your country has favor.

Poison Ivy

Poison Ivy

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2006

Toronto

Hopping

Mo/A

Well personally, if the storage is as Nilator described...I wouldn't put a thing in it.

J snukka

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Feb 2005

New York

ok if that is the case they would have done it by now. They are giving us what they say they are giving us. Just sell your crap to the merchant geez. Guild Storage wtf. You give it to your guildie, if not, then you sell it or keep it. Stop asking for more space to put junk. I think the slots they are offering is just enough for 80% of the players.

master_of_puppets

master_of_puppets

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2006

I dont like guilds...

Mo/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by Valyrian_Steel
This was actually PROMISED by A-Net to come a few weeks after factions release.....
I dont completely understand A-net language yet but I'm pretty sure that when they say a few weeks they mean 8 months.

And as the idea, it has been suggested before and its not needed and will be abused. Are you always gonna guess who's "trustworthy" and who's not? Someone who is allowed to access it and wants to leave the guild might take everything and go.

Lykan

Lykan

Forge Runner

Join Date: May 2005

StP

R/

How is having guild storage any different to personal storage, exactly what will you put in there? More personal storage would be better.
What would be the point in a storage that a whole guild can access? So someone can "borrow" your fellblade for mission? Or hold your customised armour for a while. There is no point.
We need personal storage not something that can be abused in so many ways. (see above post)


/notsigned


p.s the material vault is a good start

Nilator

Nilator

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Dec 2005

Mo/

You guys are missing the point of this. This doesn't mean put your 15^50 req 8 fellblade in it. It is for like, you have some extra cloth, someone in your guild might need it. Put it in the bank.

xiao1985

xiao1985

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Nov 2005

LOVE the idea

/signed

TheOneMephisto

TheOneMephisto

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2005

This isn't a selfish thing for more storage for yourself. This is so that the guild can have a communal storage where everyone can contribute and everyone can take some stuff out when they need it
/signed

unholy guardian

unholy guardian

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Mar 2006

Lost Haven

A/Mo

i like it because many times i might have something to donate... but the guild mules are not on, or even extra cash to give i can stick it there, although will have to pretty much monitor it, or even better have a transaction list of items that the guild leader can view so if someone is leeching kick um... kinda stink if they would guild hop and rob people though....

/signed even in fear of problems

Tien ak

Tien ak

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Feb 2006

Crystal Indignation

R/W

well a good reason why this isn't in is the point that an officer can not only kick members but if this was implimented then they could steal all your gold and items you've put in.

My guild got attacked by someone kicking all the our members out we did recover from this luckily so if you reading this "ha ha"

if you want to donate something just ask who needs materials, chances are they may sell it but its the same senario with this idea.

so from the experiance of someone trying to reck your guild this is /Notsigned

You will only not want this is if its happened to you trust me on this

Ariana Of Damia

Ariana Of Damia

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2006

♥ Aurelio Furor ♥


Well I think that anything I out in there I dont need so I would not care who in the guild took it.....

I submitted a post aslo for an idea of Guild Mail.... to leave an item or two in a mailbox for a guild mate..... I thought that was a good idea

Death Snapper

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jan 2006

Canada - Toronto

The Little Nutters (PWN)

people just arent trustable enough. One thing this would need to work is a log to say who put in and took out what (otherwise anyone "trustable" could just take something (or everything) and no one whould know who did it).
There are many solutions to storage but this one would only work in a perfect world as it is, unless you could put items in and have a setting where it does not allow anyone else to take it (which kindda defeats this ideas main purpose).

as is it seems waaay too exploitable
/not signed

Griffonclaw

Griffonclaw

Academy Page

Join Date: Mar 2006

W/

Just throwing an idea out there, what if the items taken out of storage were 'customised' as guild items. Meaning that you couldn't sell it to the merchant, and if you left the guild the items returned to the storage. Only the origional owner could reeove them as their own. As for materials you shouldn't be able to merchant them but you should be able to use them for armor. Oh, and no trading them to non guildies.

Any thoughts on that? any problems you can see?

EDIT: Just had another idea, if the person wants the item back, they should be able to press a button and retrieve it from a person using it so long as they are not in an explorable area. This would stop people grabbing items out of storage and holding them 'hostage'

Flamma

Flamma

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Sep 2006

Portland, Oregon, U.S.A

Gothic Undead Alliance

W/Mo

I think that griffonclaw has a good idea on the customized thing, and I totally agree with the guild storage thing because then if you ran out of area in personal storage, than you could go to the guild storage! and about the customized thing, maybe it could be that it was customized for the person who put it in there unless they specified that it wasn't to be customized for them.

teenchi

teenchi

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2005

PST

Heros of Titans Realm [HotR]

W/Mo

/signed for extra junk you aren't going to worry about or trip off of if anyone else takes it. I've got more bones, feathers, putrid cysts, plague idols and other crap that I don't need but can't seem to bring myself to get rid of. I know other guild members might like to have it.

SirCrowbar

SirCrowbar

Academy Page

Join Date: Apr 2005

Vigilantes of Ascalon

N/Mo

/signed

This would be a great way to share common items with guild members.

Kai Nui

Kai Nui

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2005

Behind you with a knife

Celebrity Gangsters [FamE]

Me/

Guild storage is the most retarded concept ever produced. There's no point. If you are in a guild where you loan items, then ffs, loan the item out personally at your own discretion and don't expect to get it back either. The system is fine the way it is, unless you really want people shoving stuff into an additional storage and getting that robbed constantly.

Mister O

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Nilator
Now because this is for the whole guild, a small guild will not be needed a very large one. My guess would be the the same size as a normal storage(20 items I believe) for 1 person in the Guild(it would be the leader). And 1 more additional slot for an item, and 1k more as the max money in the guild bank. This would cap at about 50 items and 1500k in the bank.
I get not a single clue about what he tried to say

In this case, the biggest thief (exploiter) would be the guild leader himself since he can take whatever he likes.

Anyway, I don't like the idea at all. I would prefer extra slots for personal storage, which is much more safer.

Therefore,
/notsigned

Safer Saviour

Academy Page

Join Date: Jul 2006

I think this is a great way to promote a more communal attitude on Guild Wars as opposed to the usual MMORPG selfishness. Sure we all want what's best for our own characters but say you get a few coloured dye drops after all 6+ of your characters have several 15k armours dyed perfectly already, or a few extra crafting materials that you don't need, or just that spare 43g.

I do realise that guildhopping theives would be a problem but a time limit (like you have to have been in the guild a week/month/whatever before using Guild Storage) would help to limit that. Perhaps 'reserving' items for paticular players (Warrior A finds 35 Monstrous Fangs for Necro B and puts them into storage but only Warrior A and Necro B can take them out) would help too.

/Signed

l Artemis Entreri l

l Artemis Entreri l

Academy Page

Join Date: Aug 2006

Belarusian Standard Time [BST]

A/

lol just like have the leader designate how much money ur allowed to withdraw and then like have him designate how long un can borrow and item like put and item time meter on items selected for *borrow*(so the when meter runs out its automatically ported to bank) and have one selected for *keep*


and the leader designates how many items u can withdraw w/in the time span of like 1-3 hours to prevent robberies



/signed

Yawgmoth

Yawgmoth

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2005

/signed

guild storage would be a very nice addition to a guild hall, and an idea of increasing its size depending on the number of guild members is good aswell. but make the guild storage quite small for 1-person guilds to discourage people from leaving theirs to create a new one just for storage.
Size upgrades should be purchasable at certain guild sizes, for example adding the feature to gh is 50k, then a 5+ person guild can pay another 50k to increase the size, then a 10+ guild, and next stops at 20+ and 40+ (just examples)

falling demon

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2006

dunno

Dawn's Omen {Leader}

W/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by l Artemis Entreri l
lol just like have the leader designate how much money ur allowed to withdraw and then like have him designate how long un can borrow and item like put and item time meter on items selected for *borrow*(so the when meter runs out its automatically ported to bank) and have one selected for *keep*


and the leader designates how many items u can withdraw w/in the time span of like 1-3 hours to prevent robberies
problem with that though, what's to say the guild leader won't take everything? I suggest a popup before putting something in the bank saying 'are you sure you wish to put this item(s) in the guild bank? every player in your guild will be able to access it. i'd also like a 3 week session before you can take items from the bank, to prevent people joining, taking and leaving.

sounds good though, itd give me somewhere to put my 12 stacks of wood that i'm slowly turning into parchment.. whereas a guildie could use it for better needs.

/signed

blkadr

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Sep 2006

Shingletown Slayers

R/Me

/signed

I think about the issue of restriction, I think that as long as you have a guild leader and officers you can trust (which is why you're in a guild, to have a few people you know at hand), its a good idea. If a guild member feels the bank is being abused, he/she doesn't have to contribute to it. ^.^;;

MMSDome

MMSDome

Raged Out

Join Date: Sep 2005

/nope!

blkadr

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Sep 2006

Shingletown Slayers

R/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by MMSDome
/nope!
care to elaborate?

Kaiwyn

Kaiwyn

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Feb 2005

BC Canada

We have a Guild Storage account. Characters created simply for the purpose of holding items for other Guild Members. I do not think a communal storage is a good idea as I am sure some of the younger or newer members who are not used to how our guild functions, or someone who is kicked from the guild might abuse it.

When an oficer is playing (and we now have it that there are officers available both mornings and nights,) anyone can ask for an item or put something into storage. I, personally have a character created on my own account for the express purpose of holding items. However... even with 2 bags and a pouch as well as the Xunlai storage, room is scarce if you have several characters that you hope someday to outfit in top of the line armor, runes, weapons etc.

Wouldn't it be great to be able to equip a bag with the 10 slots, fill it then place the full bag into ONE slot in Xunlai storage? Then to access the items in the bag you merely exchange the full bag in storage with one you are carrying, long enough to get the items out that you need. For those of us who like to keep a goodly supply of salvage items as well as rare crafting items, weapons and runes, this would be heaven.

Bane of Worlds

Bane of Worlds

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Mar 2006

Meadow

Rt/

/signed
regular members can't have access to this since it's exploitable
only the guild leader and maybe certain officers should be given access to the true guild storage/bank
members should ask officers or the leader if they need something lol

Kool Pajamas

Kool Pajamas

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2005

Maryland

Mage Elites [MAGE]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bane of Worlds
/signed
regular members can't have access to this since it's exploitable
only the guild leader and maybe certain officers should be given access to the true guild storage/bank
members should ask officers or the leader if they need something lol
Exactly

If you cant trust your guild leader then you are not in a good guild.


/signed for guild storage/bank where only leader and or officers can access.

hellbo12n

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2006

Envy

Mo/W

/signed, g8 idea....

Emik

Emik

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Nov 2005

Belgium

[FaRM] Farm For The Win

N/

A certain passage of EVE Online springs to mind...
What if you invite someone proposed by a guildmate to your guild... the one invited is actually a double agent working for another rivaling guild wanting to give your guild hell...

lemme link you.
Read this article
Then after reading this tell me if it is such a good idea.

Ok in guild wars there is no corporate wallet but if there woudl be something implemented as a guild 'Bank' then i say no thanks

stevemd24

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Sep 2006

MOB

E/R

I have guys that just hold my extra crap like cloth and the like there should be a storage that we can dump our usless stuff off so our guildmates can use it, if u don;t want it stolen duh don;t put it in that safe

Soldat

Soldat

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2006

TX

Fashion Police [chic]

/notsigned for the same reasons as others.

Sunblade

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Nov 2006

The Dragons Brood

W/Mo

Just to expand on this idea. It would be great to have a shared guild storage with a ton of space to put things for the guild to share, especially with the new need to ‘equip’ heroes. It could also promote more active guilds where things could be ‘gifted’ to the guild members. This shared storage could have four tabs on it:

a. Open Access: Anyone can take from this tab.

b. Officer Access: Anyone can see the items here, but only an officer can take from this tab, which means a non-officer would have to ask the officer for it. Option on the item slot to grant ‘take’ access to a guild member (reward).

c. Leader Access: As Officer, but only the leader can give it out. Option on the item slot to grant ‘take’ access to a guild member or officer (reward).
d. Materials Tab (for those who have over 250 in their own.

shogankiller

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Nov 2006

Crussader's of Lyssa

E/Me

i think it is a great idea, but only have withdrawls accesable for officers or leader

/signed

MithranArkanere

MithranArkanere

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Nov 2006

wikipedia.org/wiki/Vigo

Heraldos de la Llama Oscura [HLO]

E/

Storage is limited to prevent characters from gathering too many gold pieces in them.

But in our guild, we have a rule about not to sell anything to other members.

One of the officials have a character only for storage.
He saves and stores green weapons, materials, runes, even gold.

Why should a player waste a character like that?

Just add a 'Representative of Xunali' NPC in the Guild Master list to buy, that would give the usual storage upgrades, in addition with the '100k' alliance storage option.

After that, you'll have spent 100k buying the NPC, and another 100k unlocking the feature, for a total of 200k.

After that, like previous said, The leader would have total access to the storage, and there would be some tabs, one for all, one for officials and leader, one for the leader, and one for materials and unlockable items.

In addition, there will be another tab, but with no storage, but a LOG with all the items put in and out by characters.

It will be just a list of names and items:

- Taruu Tara took away 23 bolts of cloth.

Moving an item from one slot to another would not be reflicted here.
Adding an stockble ittem would count as taking the original andd adding the rest. Adding 10 piles of bone to 15 piles of bone would be reflicted list this:
- Paro Maru took away 15 piles of bones.
- Paro Maru put in 25 piles of bones.
Those logs would last some hours, 24, 36, 72... and will be visible by ALL the members.

Commander Ryker

Site Contributor

Join Date: Jun 2005

R/

/signed

Only the guild leader should have access and any officers that they want to have access as well.

Anet promised and I want it! Of course Gaile said that we could make canthan characters in Nightfall and she was wrong there.

Peka

Peka

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2006

N/

i agree with above post ^^

/notsigned

nebojats

nebojats

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Nov 2006

Thailand

Mo/E

/signed

How many times have I needed extra materials? Pretty much every time I need new armor. How much extra material is lying around in all of my guildmates' personal inventories that they have no intention of using? I assume a ton, since I know that's true for me.

To those who oppose the idea:

I agree that a lot of people aren't to be trusted and that the concept could be easily exploited. My answer is: if you don't trust your guild then don't put stuff you care about in a communal storage account. Simple. Those who are foolish enough to share with strangers and end up getting robbed, tough luck.