Pets Deleted in Dragon Arena

Swinging Fists

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Mar 2006

W/Mo

Someone in my alliance noted that when he brought charm animal into the arena, his pet was deleted. I just saw someone else in the Monastery complaining of the same thing. I haven't confirmed this, just thought you should be aware.

Hysteria

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2005

Hmm, I did by accident now he wont show up any where. It was a black moa and Im gonna be real ticked if this cant be fixed.

Canadian Bacon

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2006

Ontario, Canada

Kingdom of Tyria [KoT]

It's completely true that pets are being deleted. So stay out of the arena while playing Ranger!

Kijik Oni Hanryuu

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2006

the 7th level of HELL! J/K Somewhere in GW assassinating things

[acid]members of the KAWS alliance

A/

you can still play a ranger just not a beastmaster.

LiQuId StEeL

LiQuId StEeL

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jul 2005

/u/liquidsteel30

Ego Trip From Rank [ZERO]

W/Mo

As long as Charm is OFF your car when you enter, it's safe, right?

/prays for McFatty

snikerz

snikerz

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2005

Rt/A

yes confirmed, pet is deleted when entering dragon arena

B/P_Ranger

Academy Page

Join Date: Jun 2006

R/Mo

I was pretty excited about this event. Notice that I said "WAS" Please also notice my username B/P_Ranger... means I am a B/P ranger.

My pet that I have had with me since forever, is now gone, because I was eager to participate in all the fun and games, even the pvp area (I'm strictly pve) With no warning that I was about to permantly loose my pet. NONE.

No warning that skills would be changed, nothing.
To say I am upset is a understatement.

And how does Guildwars say? What does ANET say?

Too bad so sad....I cant believe that a software/gaming company as large as the one that has created this game, didnt do test run, didn't get all possible aspects before uploading to the general playing public.

I have been patient with Factions, but after this, I really could care less anymore. I wont be purchasing the next installment of this. Don't have much energy for the game at this point.

What I really want, other than my pet back, is a apology from ANET, and The all wonderful Gaile. Doubt I will see that here either.

Asrial

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2005

Centurion Guard

Mo/E

B/P_Ranger, it's all in your perception.

It will not take you long to re-charm and re-level your pet back to his or her former glory.

What's stopping you is that you have invested emotional interest in the cluster of data called your pet.

Quite the same way I feel about not charming another pet because the stalker was the first and stayed with me all through my weeks of pre-searing.

It sucks, but it's hardly worth raising an uproar over.

Red

Red

Rawr!

Join Date: Mar 2006

Kentucky, USA

Team Love [kiSu]

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Asrial
It sucks, but it's hardly worth raising an uproar over.
..... consider empathy and compassion. It rocks.

Meanwhile, I'm sure the people at ANet will figure out some way to fix this, even if it means that all pets are immediately level 20 for the next couple of days, and you can select Elder, Dire, or Hearty. Let's not kick and scream until we hear something--and how can we NOT?

Omega X

Omega X

Ninja Unveiler

Join Date: Jun 2005

Louisiana, USA

Boston Guild[BG]

W/Me

I bet that this is gonna be fixed tomorrow. That is a major bug and there is no putting that off for a year since the thing is so short.

Asrial

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2005

Centurion Guard

Mo/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by Redly

consider empathy and compassion
Quote:
Originally Posted by Asrial

Quite the same way I feel about not charming another pet because the stalker was the first and stayed with me all through my weeks of pre-searing.
Empathy is akin to 'putting yourself in the shoes of the other person'. I didn't do Nente's 'stalker' quest in post-searing because I didn't want to get rid of my pet.

Check.

Compassion... my compassion is having read his post and taken my time to give a response, instead of just glancing through it and moving it on. I choose to open his eyes to the heart of the issue and not dwell on trying to make him feel better by joining the bandwagon.

Check.

Again, bottom line...

The reason it sucks and is frustrating and such is because YOU have assigned emotional value to a cluster of data that is easily replaceable.

Jessyi

Jessyi

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2005

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by B/P_Ranger
...I cant believe that a software/gaming company as large as the one that has created this game, didnt do test run, didn't get all possible aspects before uploading to the general playing public.

...

What I really want, other than my pet back, is a apology from ANET, and The all wonderful Gaile. Doubt I will see that here either.
Yes...as we all know, no reputable software company has ever released a product (or subsequent patches) with any sorts of bugs in it. ANet must be horribly ashamed to be the first. FOR SHAME!

Secondly, unless Gaile personally deleted your pet (or even had any role in writing the code for the event [hint: she didn't]) I don't think she owes you an apology. She's not your whipping boy...

-Jessyi

Gaile Gray

Gaile Gray

ArenaNet

Join Date: Feb 2005

We are very sorry for the deletion of the pets during the few minutes -- yes minutes -- that that bug existed. I reported it to Mike O'Brien on a phone call about another issue, and before I could blink an eye, he had confimed it, and the programmers had checked in and rolled out a fix.

As a Ranger myself, I know that's a real "ouch" and I personally feel your pain. But as a Ranger, I know that the leveling process is very rapid, and I encourage you to not despair but to charm a new pet and have him/her at your side, in fighting form, in a short while.

Again, we're very sorry about those pet losses.

Red

Red

Rawr!

Join Date: Mar 2006

Kentucky, USA

Team Love [kiSu]

Mo/

Great response time! ^_^

But... no restoration?

Have the devs even said yet "we'll fix that... somehow... we'll figure out a way to replace, or make it easier for the rangers to restore their pet for a few days"? Like, oh I dunno--make all the pets at Minister Cho's level 20 for a few days, and make them charmable, and provide all three versions: elder, dire, and hearty?

XD Or does it just suck ta be a ranger XD

Unlucky Slayer

Unlucky Slayer

RAGE INCARNATE

Join Date: Apr 2006

Sitting at The Guild Hall 2, being happy.

Nerd Clan [NK]

R/

Restoration would prolly mean a rollback which I doubt they are willing to do just for some pets.

VGJustice

VGJustice

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jul 2005

Tyria, cappin' ur bosses

Boston Guild [BG]

R/W

When I first heard about this, I made a mad dash online to see if I had lost my easily replacable Dire Lynx, and found her waiting for me. Ok, crissis over for me.

But, what about pets that are not so easily replaced? It's not every day you come across a Black Widow spider. And what of pets that are simply impossible to replace? I mean all the pets that are UNIQUE to PreSearing Ascalon (Wolves, Striders, and Moss Spiders). If those were lost, you can't just "get another one", because they're no longer available to that character.

I'd be devistated if some random bug took away something as special as that. ._.

B/P_Ranger

Academy Page

Join Date: Jun 2006

R/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Gaile Gray
We are very sorry for the deletion of the pets during the few minutes -- yes minutes -- that that bug existed. I reported it to Mike O'Brien on a phone call about another issue, and before I could blink an eye, he had confimed it, and the programmers had checked in and rolled out a fix.

As a Ranger myself, I know that's a real "ouch" and I personally feel your pain. But as a Ranger, I know that the leveling process is very rapid, and I encourage you to not despair but to charm a new pet and have him/her at your side, in fighting form, in a short while.

Again, we're very sorry about those pet losses.
Thank you for the apology. That is appreciated. Does it make me any less upset.. not really. But as I said is appreciated.

I do know that leveling is very easy, thats not the point. My husband will gladly go with me to level a new pet. Not something I wanted to have to do since my gaming time is limited. But so I must.

I sure hope that next time, maybe things are beta'd a bit longer.

Mr.Interrupt

Mr.Interrupt

Academy Page

Join Date: Feb 2006

Clawson, Michigan

The Good Ol Days [BWE]

Rt/

For a while I was wondering whether I should ditch my Arachnid for a Phoenix or Black Moa.. Now that I've experienced the "pleasures" of the dragon arena, I know that i'll have the fine choice of one of the other two as Im not going to shell out ANOTHER 30k on another spider...
One of my guildies had a grand suggestion though, put in a special dragon hatchling pet as a charmable for the duration for the event. That way at least there is some uniquness out of the situation. Either way at least we know you were made aware.

Caleb

Caleb

Nil nisi malis terrori.

Join Date: Aug 2005

Mo/Me

Glad to hear it was fixed quickly, and even more glad that my phoenix was only level 8 when I gleefully jumped to get into the first dragon arena battle I could.

elliot

elliot

Academy Page

Join Date: Jun 2006

holland

W/

so if you lose your pet wenn you go to pvp how so that you see peeps in pvp with thous funky pets
like white tiger/moa bird etc

-Loki-

-Loki-

Forge Runner

Join Date: Oct 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr.Interrupt
Now that I've experienced the "pleasures" of the dragon arena, I know that i'll have the fine choice of one of the other two as Im not going to shell out ANOTHER 30k on another spider...
People charge for spider runs? My old guild used to do it for fun with 3 trapers and the person getting the spider.

TheLordOfBlah

TheLordOfBlah

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jan 2006

California

None

Mo/N

I'm guessing and hoping they tested the arenas before... however they probably didnt think of testing it with every skill equiped before entering. Also, it was fixed literaly within 10 minutes.

Asrial

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2005

Centurion Guard

Mo/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by VGJustice

I mean all the pets that are UNIQUE to PreSearing Ascalon (Wolves, Striders, and Moss Spiders).
The wolves can still be found outside pre, but the Striders and Moss Spiders I haven't yet seen. I can see your point on those two particular pets.

narcissistic_fool

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jan 2006

Random Logic [rL]

W/

moss spiders cannot be charmed...

Jetdoc

Jetdoc

Hell's Protector

Join Date: Jul 2005

The Eyes of Texas [BEVO]

D/A

Yep, those with spider pets are gonna be PO'ed...

Ariana Of Damia

Ariana Of Damia

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2006

♥ Aurelio Furor ♥

I hope no one went in there with a spider


_,.-+=’* ♥ Aurelio Furor [AUR] ♥ *’=+-.,_
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wfetzko

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Jun 2006

USA

Choas of Dragons

R/A

I understand how he feel, about losing a pet, without warning, and you can trained another pet. It does not take long to retrained. I have a cat from the beginning, then I change it to a bear, now that I have another ranger, I started with the yellow tiger and then I change to the white tiger, which is lvl 12 after the 2nd night, but when it come time to get the Phoenix, I will drop my cat in a heart beat, for the Phoenix.

Tsamikayu

Tsamikayu

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2006

Glasgow, Scotland, UK

Warriors of Ellimire

N/R

I'll just be going to check on my tiger . . . . *runs*

Goats17

Goats17

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Feb 2006

House Zu Heltzer, laughing at them.

The [GEAR] Trick

N/Me

We all get so attached to our data clusters......errrrrr pets. Not that thats a bad thing, I love my little Dune Lizard. ^_^

CKaz

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by VGJustice
But, what about pets that are not so easily replaced? It's not every day you come across a Black Widow spider.
Yeah my neccy would have been pissed, not jumping into new ANet games too early ftw

Also everyone notice now new patch spam happens not only while in towns, but while in explorable/combat areas now as well?

Doomlord_Slayermann

Doomlord_Slayermann

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2005

Chicago IL

Dark Phoenix Risin [DPR]

W/P

If anyone wants, I'm going to be doing some Drok's troll runs for materials sometime soon, so if you want to bring along your pet for powerleveling that would be fine. Just let me keep the drops.

<-- IGNs

Metanoia

Metanoia

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Feb 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Asrial
Quote:
Originally Posted by VGJustice
I mean all the pets that are UNIQUE to PreSearing Ascalon (Wolves, Striders, and Moss Spiders).
The wolves can still be found outside pre, but the Striders and Moss Spiders I haven't yet seen. I can see your point on those two particular pets.
The Striders and Moa Birds are supposed to be one and the same. If you do /Petname on a Strider after level 3, it is supposed to say Moa Bird. It eventually changes back to a Strider once it reaches it's first evolution.

ChaoticCoyote

ChaoticCoyote

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2006

Florida, USA

Imperial Order of the Iguana [IGGY]

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Gaile Gray
We are very sorry for the deletion of the pets during the few minutes -- yes minutes -- that that bug existed. I reported it to Mike O'Brien on a phone call about another issue, and before I could blink an eye, he had confimed it, and the programmers had checked in and rolled out a fix.

As a Ranger myself, I know that's a real "ouch" and I personally feel your pain. But as a Ranger, I know that the leveling process is very rapid, and I encourage you to not despair but to charm a new pet and have him/her at your side, in fighting form, in a short while.

Again, we're very sorry about those pet losses.
One of my daughter's real-world pets died yesterday, and to add insult to injury, we played Guild Wars for fun, and she lost her in-game pet too.

Nice job, Arena.Net.

I don't normally complain, but this was simply a case of poor testing. And terrible public relations.

raven214

raven214

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by ChaoticCoyote
One of my daughter's real-world pets died yesterday, and to add insult to injury, we played Guild Wars for fun, and she lost her in-game pet too.

Nice job, Arena.Net.

I don't normally complain, but this was simply a case of poor testing. And terrible public relations.
I am sorry to hear of your RL pet loss -- as an animal lover I know what it means to lose them -- but to equate that to this issue is a tad much, don't you think?

As for PR, I'm actually very impressed with the response time... pets are relatively easy to charm and level, so I certainly wouldn't have expected a roll-back or a temporary max-lvl pet trader or anything like that. Nevertheless, as a primary ranger, I understand the frustration with having to reforge that digital bond (and level) with a new pet.

In any event, my condolences for your RL loss.

Winters

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Feb 2006

Any one know any good spider charming ppl that I could talk to? Lost him to the bug.

Reject Hustler

Reject Hustler

Academy Page

Join Date: Sep 2005

none

R/

If you want another Black Moa just pm in game and ill get you one easy.

Arteful Dodger

Arteful Dodger

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2006

Geezer Guild

R/Mo

Quote:
the programmers had checked in and rolled out a fix.
I'm sorry but did I miss something when this fix was released? My ranger is still missing his pet AND since that time I have been outside of various towns on the island and have NOT seen one single tameable pet. No tigers, bears, nothing. So my question is............if there was a fix released where are all the tameable animals?

I realize that most non-rangers and some rangers don't care one way or the other and that's their perrogative. From my standpoint though I think it's a crock that something like this happens and people just say "oh well, bad luck, go find another one". That isn't the point. How would you feel if instead of a rangers pet being deleted, it deleted that perfect celestial sword or some such weapon? I think you'd be whistling a different turn. People who live in glass houses should avoid throwing stones.

I have other rangers with pets so I my question is did they lose their pets as well or do you have to have entered the arena for it to happen?

UPDATE: I have managed to recharm another animal now. But earlier as I said there was nothing to be seen when I went out into the countryside.

Diablo???

Diablo???

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2005

Seattle

SPQR

N/R

I'm sure Anet had no intentions of destroying so many pets... at least nothing permanent was removed, even if its a widow spider or black moa, all can be recharmed... although the time spent on recharming these little buggers can feel like a real hassle.

Big Tony

Big Tony

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2006

Currently guildless

NOEZ!!1!!1!! My Black Moa is gone forevers!!!!

Oh well...I was going to get a phoenix eventually anyways...

Sklouge Bouch

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Jun 2006

R/Me

Yeah, I'm kinda mad that this happened. But whining about it won't bring my pet spider back.


A rollback would be nice, but then again, so many people have worked so hard to get Jade Wind Orbs. One guy I met had over 2,000, so yeah, a rollback would make even more people unhappy then there is now.