This is a debate whether the mini pets should of came pre customized or not.
ANet brought in mini pets to chars a year old. I dont think they were meant to be the new big seller in the market. All event masks come pre customized so you cant sell them. Why should you be able to sell mini pets? They were a gift from ANet. Discuss.
EDIT: Personally, I think the way ANet should of done it was you got to choose the mini pet you wanted and it came customized. That way you'd be happy with what you got and you wouldnt be able to sell. All pets come white, no greens, golds, etc so people wont think one is more valubale.
Should Mini Pets Been Pre-Customized From The Start?
Arkantos
Caleb
I would have preferred they were customized from the beginning.
Now that they have been around for a month or more and there are hundreds if not thousands on the market being sold, I don't think it would be appropriate to start customizing them at this point.
In hindsight, customization would have made the pet more valuable (to me).
Now that they have been around for a month or more and there are hundreds if not thousands on the market being sold, I don't think it would be appropriate to start customizing them at this point.
In hindsight, customization would have made the pet more valuable (to me).
RTSFirebat
Yes and no.
I think they should come Customised...
But no they shouldn't because therefore some people would never (Well almost never) get a chance to have a rare pet like Rurik.
Since they been out for some time now, its too late to change it. If new ones were customised it would cause the existing ones to jump in price.
I think they should come Customised...
But no they shouldn't because therefore some people would never (Well almost never) get a chance to have a rare pet like Rurik.
Since they been out for some time now, its too late to change it. If new ones were customised it would cause the existing ones to jump in price.
Arkantos
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Originally Posted by Caleb The Pontiff
I would have preferred they were customized from the beginning.
Now that they have been around for a month or more and there are hundreds if not thousands on the market being sold, I don't think it would be appropriate to start customizing them at this point. In hindsight, customization would have made the pet more valuable (to me). |
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I have 3 minis and a Kuunavang that I got through the original means: as birthday presents, and in the case of Kuunavang, as a present from ANet for having bought the Factions CE.
I don't beat myself up over it, but I feel the same way about pets as I do about FoW armour. They could be a badge of proof, something that you could use in much the same way as a title to display your in-game achievements, but because they can be bought and sold, any old schmuck can buy them, and there's no way of proving to others that yours are originals, and that you've put time into earning them.
An interesting badge of proof would have been to name them after the original owner, so that even if you sold your pet, it would still be identifiable as having belonged to you, and people who just bought them would be easily distinguished as having purchased their pet.
But like I say, it's nothing major and is just a bit of fun.
More fool you if you buy something that you get for free if you wait long enough.
I don't beat myself up over it, but I feel the same way about pets as I do about FoW armour. They could be a badge of proof, something that you could use in much the same way as a title to display your in-game achievements, but because they can be bought and sold, any old schmuck can buy them, and there's no way of proving to others that yours are originals, and that you've put time into earning them.
An interesting badge of proof would have been to name them after the original owner, so that even if you sold your pet, it would still be identifiable as having belonged to you, and people who just bought them would be easily distinguished as having purchased their pet.
But like I say, it's nothing major and is just a bit of fun.
More fool you if you buy something that you get for free if you wait long enough.
RTSFirebat
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Originally Posted by Arkantos
I dont mean start customizing them now, I meant to say they should of started customized.
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Wildi
I have 0 mini pets, but whats the problem with selling them ? Maybe drops should be customized too because people may sell weapons to others. j/k
Deadlyjunk
I disagree... what if you get a pet you don't like? Why shouldn't you be able to trade it?
For example: I got a jade armor for my eles b-day. I don't like jade armors. I traded it for a siege turtle. That way I'm happier and the other guy is happier. Who cares if people are making fortunes off Rurik? They've played the game for a year, they deserve a little boost
For example: I got a jade armor for my eles b-day. I don't like jade armors. I traded it for a siege turtle. That way I'm happier and the other guy is happier. Who cares if people are making fortunes off Rurik? They've played the game for a year, they deserve a little boost
Clone
Absolutely not. I got my first, its charm was there for all of about a day. Then it was just another item taking up space in my inventory. However, it was an item taking up space in my inventory that many other people wanted. I'd prefer the cash and they'd prefer to have one. I also find the customization of 0 AL (holiday) helmets unnecessary too.
Arkantos
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Originally Posted by Deadlyjunk
I disagree... what if you get a pet you don't like? Why shouldn't you be able to trade it?
For example: I got a jade armor for my eles b-day. I don't like jade armors. I traded it for a siege turtle. That way I'm happier and the other guy is happier. Who cares if people are making fortunes off Rurik? They've played the game for a year, they deserve a little boost |
Witchblade
its good as it is for me ...
if i wanna use a minipet, i d like to choose it
if i wanna use a minipet, i d like to choose it
Xenrath
Not unless there was some kind of pet trader added. Some people get the same pet several times, or one they didn't really want/didn't get the one they hoped for. If there was some way to change pets then sure, why not.
Witchblade
no 
there are way too much traders already ...
there are way too much traders already ...
Arkantos
Personally, I think the way ANet should of done it was you got to choose the mini pet you wanted and it came customized. That way you'd be happy with what you got and you wouldnt be able to sell.
Xenrath
Yeah that's the best idea
I think one possible reason they were not made customised is for them to be gold sinks. The people who sell them may need the money. Money which they then spend/use up e.g. materials, weapons, items. That's more money gone from the economy...
I think one possible reason they were not made customised is for them to be gold sinks. The people who sell them may need the money. Money which they then spend/use up e.g. materials, weapons, items. That's more money gone from the economy...
Ka El Windstorm
you can't have a gold sink between players..A gold sink is when the money is taken out of the economy. In your example the money is just being circulated between players.
Edit: And to bring my post on topic, yes i think they should be customized. what it really did was allow the rich to become richer. The same people who were selling thier pets for a 100k +xxx ectos are the same people who bought ectos and shards when they were dirt cheap during the GW market crash(reset).
Edit: And to bring my post on topic, yes i think they should be customized. what it really did was allow the rich to become richer. The same people who were selling thier pets for a 100k +xxx ectos are the same people who bought ectos and shards when they were dirt cheap during the GW market crash(reset).
Caleb
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Originally Posted by Arkantos
Personally, I think the way ANet should of done it was you got to choose the mini pet you wanted and it came customized. That way you'd be happy with what you got and you wouldnt be able to sell.
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dreamhunk
no I never wanted mine give mine away rather have gold or something :P
Jedimagician
well if they did come pre customised in the first place... people who didnt get one because they remade their character JUST before anet introduced mini's wouldve been really pissed...
aron searle
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Originally Posted by Arkantos
This is a debate whether the mini pets should of came pre customized or not.
ANet brought in mini pets to chars a year old. I dont think they were meant to be the new big seller in the market. All event masks come pre customized so you cant sell them. Why should you be able to sell mini pets? They were a gift from ANet. Discuss. |
They are a gift i understand, but i dont see why that isnt a reason to not sell them.
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Several of my guildees who have never farmed, never got good drops, managed to get rich because they got good pets, its luck.
Arkantos
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Originally Posted by aron searle
Why should i not be able to sell them, i scanned through the thread and saw varios yes/no's, but i cant actually see a reason why they shouldnt be sold, what is the reasoning
They are a gift i understand, but i dont see why that isnt a reason to not sell them. |
Deadlyjunk
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Originally Posted by Arkantos
Because you dont always get what you want in life. Its the principal of it. If someone gives you a gift, you shouldnt give it to someone.
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And giving gifts away is not contradictory to "the principal of life"... and you can't always get what you want in life, but that doesn't mean you can't try to get it, and can't sometimes get it.
Sjeng
Leave minipets the way they are. They're great fun, they're collectable, tradable, profitable. Why change that?
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aron searle
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Originally Posted by Arkantos
Eventually everyone will have a mini pet, and most will sell theres. Theres going to be much more money in the economy, which can mess things up.
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Firstly Mini pets do not create money, it simply moves from 1 person to another, and from what ive seen (which is not evidence but then neither is anything else anyone says), the people who make money from them are people who get lucky, be they rich or poor.
And lets say that they did create money, which they dont. With your logic anything that inflates the economy should be removed, Fow, Ecto, Greens, Special skins, Amber, Jade blablalblaa.
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This is nothing more than a statement, "you must not give them because of principle", what principle, whats the reasoning, whats the logic, you have simply made a statement. Explain to me using logic why i cant sell something i am given.
Yogi's Pain
What is wrong with them? It allowed some people to make some gold, and allowed new players access to an item that they wouldn't be allowed to get. It didn't really benifit the rich, they have as much chance as anyone to get a rare pet or a common one. What it may have allowed is for the people who can play the market very well another trading market to conquer.
Look at it any way you want, but its still a present. Something given to you. A way for Anet to say thanks. And you're still complaining.
Look at it any way you want, but its still a present. Something given to you. A way for Anet to say thanks. And you're still complaining.
Clerihew
I guess if Anet saw the mini pets as being the kind of gift you shouldn't give away then they would have customized them from the start.
That said, I can't understand why people would want to buy one before they have earned it - it would be a big anti-climax for me then when I actually did get one for my character's birthday.
That said, I can't understand why people would want to buy one before they have earned it - it would be a big anti-climax for me then when I actually did get one for my character's birthday.
Ariana Of Damia
I dont think that they should be customized, I created all my chars around the same time so I get 4 Mini pets all at once and I dont really need one, so I plan to give them away within my guild, to people who are newer to GW and further away from earning their own pet. I think we should be able to do what we want with them.
As far as being able to choose them yourself, I dunno about that. I am happy to get what I have, its free and its extra.
AvyScott
No I dont think they should be customized. I have 6 characters and what if I want one to have the troll today, and next week a different one to have it? If they were customized I couldnt switch them around.
Methinks the ones that complain the most about minipets are the ones who didnt get a "rare" one to make gold off of. I would also point out the entire minipet trade does cause more positive player interaction which I think is a good thing.
Methinks the ones that complain the most about minipets are the ones who didnt get a "rare" one to make gold off of. I would also point out the entire minipet trade does cause more positive player interaction which I think is a good thing.
vaxmor
If mini pets had come pre customised, there would be even more whining in the GW forums about how they should be tradeable.
Res Ipsi
I received a mini-pet (Kirin) as a birthday present (for my rl birthday). This would not have been possible had the pets been customized. I appreciate this gift far more than the ones my toons automatically received on their one-year anniversaries because the gift has sentimental value.
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Nexium
Why should they if you got Gold to waste on Mini-pet go a head..
should perfect item's be customized att the minute they hit the ground so you can't make gold of them?
should perfect item's be customized att the minute they hit the ground so you can't make gold of them?
Count Feanor
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Originally Posted by aron searle
2 things
Firstly Mini pets do not create money, it simply moves from 1 person to another, and from what ive seen (which is not evidence but then neither is anything else anyone says), the people who make money from them are people who get lucky, be they rich or poor. And lets say that they did create money, which they dont. With your logic anything that inflates the economy should be removed, Fow, Ecto, Greens, Special skins, Amber, Jade blablalblaa. EDIT, point 3 More conjecture without evidence. Why? This is nothing more than a statement, "you must not give them because of principle", what principle, whats the reasoning, whats the logic, you have simply made a statement. Explain to me using logic why i cant sell something i am given. |
anonymous
I dont think they should have been customized unless you were allowed to chose which one you got. I would be dissapointed in getting 2 fungal wallows and a whiptail devourer and not having a chance to get anything else.
Alias_X
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Originally Posted by Arkantos
This is a debate whether the mini pets should of came pre customized or not.
ANet brought in mini pets to chars a year old. I dont think they were meant to be the new big seller in the market. All event masks come pre customized so you cant sell them. Why should you be able to sell mini pets? They were a gift from ANet. Discuss. EDIT: Personally, I think the way ANet should of done it was you got to choose the mini pet you wanted and it came customized. That way you'd be happy with what you got and you wouldnt be able to sell. All pets come white, no greens, golds, etc so people wont think one is more valubale. |
Think of it this way, hats, weapons, etc, it makes sense that they can be customized. Get your hat adjusted to the right size to fit your rangers head, that makes sense. Get a bow grip on your bow, carve it a little so it fits your rangers hand, that makes sense. It doesn't make sense that a minipet would be customized.
zelira
No they shouldn't be customized. As mentioned by others, the only way they should be customized is if you get to pick which one you wanted. Not too many people will be happy if they were stuck with one that they didn't want. At least this way you can buy or trade for the one you want. I got two of the collector ed. mini pets. I don't really care for them, nor do I want to stand in town with the other 8 people selling it for 100K + ectos, so they're sitting in storage. I wanted a charr shaman and bought one. Neither one of my accts are 1 year old yet, let alone any of my current characters. At least this way I get what I want, not one less slot in storage.
Fender
No way, I made over 400k from selling mine. The ability to sell was a nice volutary wealth redistribution.
If they had been customized, they probably would have just ended up in my trash since I'm out of space.
If they had been customized, they probably would have just ended up in my trash since I'm out of space.
kaya
well... i unfortunately started all my charcters over not too long ago, for the purpose of having a little extra fun. So, this mini pet slapped me in the face. I'm not keen on waiting a half a year just to get a pet, so i'll buy them when i want. I think it was smart of them to keep mini pets tradeable.
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Griff Mon
I think a "mini-me" option would have been cool, as in Austin Powers.
MSecorsky
I just got a mountain troll. It roars.
I like the way it is for the simple fact that I can swap it between my own characters, so whomever I feel like playing can have the mountain troll at their ankles.
Don't care about people selling or not.
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I like the way it is for the simple fact that I can swap it between my own characters, so whomever I feel like playing can have the mountain troll at their ankles.
Don't care about people selling or not.
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Titan Chrae
I think the intention was this: mini-pets are the Guild Wars Version of trading cards. Some people collect them and some don't. You are free to trade them, give them away, or sell them. I, personally, have traded them and given them to friends as gifts. I'm hoping that in the future some sort of kennel (Mini-pet storage similar to the material storage coming soon) is provided so that they don't take up so much inventory space.
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