A few PvE truths

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Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2005

Natis Ignigena

Me/

05 Jul 2006 at 13:20 - 1

This is mainly meant as fun, so please don't take too much offense

I just get fed up with seeing people stating things as fact when in reality, things may be a little more fluid.

Certain things are solid gold truths in PvE:

Full Knight's armour is the best way of spotting a noob.

Rebirth is the best non-combat PvE res, a mesmer fast-casting Resurrection Chant is the best combat PvE res. Res sigs are third, and Rebirth should NEVER be used mid-combat.

If your secondary is not monk, you should still bring res sig if you are grouping with others.

Mending sucks just as much in group PvE as it does in PvP. Mobs just LOVE to strip it. If you're going to take mending, cast it on the monk, not yourself.

Chaos Storm is utterly useless since the AI update.

Mesmers don't have to follow calls. They're at their best when they're spreading the love.

2 monks are NOT a necessity.

If you're pursuing the Cartographer or Skill titles, you WILL spend most of your time with henchies.

Not ALL Wammos suck. Just the majority.

Anymore for anymore?

The Primeval King

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Aug 2005

Theres A Frog On My [Cape]

05 Jul 2006 at 13:32 - 2

Anyone with FoW armor is rich.

Ritualists can heal too! Monks are NOT the only healers!

Elementalists aren't tanks.

Neither are mesmers.

....Or assasins.

Ok, basically just warriors are tanks.

IW sucks in PVE just as much as it does in PVP

People seem to only want nuking fire eles in their group.

elsalamandra

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2005

05 Jul 2006 at 13:50 - 3

rangers are neglected by many PuGs.

pet/barragers ftw

Chick Filet

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Sep 2005

Gang

Mo/N

05 Jul 2006 at 15:08 - 4

E/Mo Healer LFG! This one makes me laugh on the PvE side.. don't get me wrong either prod HP E/Mo's in PvP can save your butt. I'm talking about the people starting E/Mo's thinking they are monks

Experianced Urgoz Team Starting Self Invite! 2/8!. Everyone Ready? Followed by many 1's and a couple of ready's followed by WTF OMG Why did you Enter I was not Ready!. Male Warrior Monks Dancin Topless in Piken Square Confuses me to this very day...Group LF Exp Trapper Self Invite. Enter so Called Trapper. Youre a trapper right? Yes. Great Lets go. Enter Mish. So called Trapper appears to have a bow. you bring your fist to your eye's give a few rubs, look again and yup Trapper still has a bow. Slightly confused you watch to see what elite he/she has and wait yup it's Barrage. Hey I thought you said you were a Trapper... I am n00b. your using barrage. I know! n00b wait. Starts to spam I'm using Flame Trap! Segways into My Energy is 0 of 25. you ask how are your atts setup he/she Types OMG WTF Dude 16 Marks 5 Exp 9 WS The rest is in Healing N00b! and the list goes on

Trojan Protector

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2005

Tea Baggin Mo Fo's

E/Me

05 Jul 2006 at 15:26 - 5

Just because you're rank 9 doesn't mean you're an uber PvE player AND on the flip side just cause you have FoW armor doesn't mean you're an uber PvP player

Akhilleus

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2005

If it aint expensive, it aint worth buyin'.

Leading/Co-leading Bretheren Of Chaos [Dark]

W/Mo

05 Jul 2006 at 17:04 - 6

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nexus Icon

This is mainly meant as fun, so please don't take too much offense

Marodac Evilbane

Site Contributor

Join Date: Nov 2005

The Netherlands

Rite of Passage

E/Mo

05 Jul 2006 at 17:32 - 7

It's easier to find 5 Warriors then 1 monk, and it's easier to find 3 monks than to find 1 water Ele.

Drewfense

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2006

Team Quitter [QQ]

Mo/Me

05 Jul 2006 at 17:42 - 8

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trojan Protector

Just because you're rank 9 doesn't mean you're an uber PvE player AND on the flip side just cause you have FoW armor doesn't mean you're an uber PvP player

Just because you're rank 9 doesn't mean you're an uber PvP player AND on the flip side just cause you have FoW armor doesn't mean you're an uber PvE player

Quote: umm, a guildie and i tried planning for raisu palace, and we failed, i next day i took my wammo with henchies, leeroyed my way to victory.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Akhilleus

rebirth is fine in mid-battle. IF IF IF IF IF its used propperly (ie NOT by a non-monk main).
and if a monk...they MUST have a -5 energy weapon switch. Still not a fan of it cause it brings up the player at 25% in the midst of battle, might as well burn a sig unless it is FoW or an elite mission.

-5 energy set in PvE ftw though...Rebirth is the age old use, but I am always in the pursuit of finding new ones. Countering the power leak of the new computer AI to save an overextended wammo in FoW/Fire Island works (they still haven't changed the AI to use esurge/eburn correctly yet). Also the negative energy set completely counters the edrain from seals in the Fire Islands. Still looking for more uses...

kryshnysh

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jan 2006

Valkyrie Einherjar

Mo/

05 Jul 2006 at 17:55 - 9

PvE Truth #743659: All truths are generalizations and a good player can expose situational flaws in many if not all of them.

Lord Oranos

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2005

Fort Aspenwood

05 Jul 2006 at 19:03 - 10

Quote:

Originally Posted by kryshnysh

PvE Truth #743659: All truths are generalizations and a good player can expose situational flaws in many if not all of them. ^^QFT

Plushie Penguin

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2006

That plushie penguin on a shelf in your bed room

Rt/E

05 Jul 2006 at 19:26 - 11

some people like the look of their armor rather then walking around looking like crap[aka, all glads other then boots]
monks don't like to waist energy on a friendly that's only missing a couple pixels of health
not every one needs to be in a guild to play

Racthoh

Did I hear 7 heroes?

Join Date: May 2005

Scars Meadows [SMS], Guild Leader (Not Recruiting)

05 Jul 2006 at 19:43 - 12

*swap to protection set*
I'm using Aegis!
*swap to -energy set*
I'm using Rebirth on xxx!
*swap to blood set*
I'm using Offering of Blood

Works quite nicely, but if you're the only monk I wouldn't risk it (unless you know the other party members know what they're doing). Also, only if you're ressing a warrior, no point in losing a lot of your energy to grab someone who needs to wait in order to do anything effectively.

Winstar

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2006

London

05 Jul 2006 at 19:54 - 13

Some truths are not generalizations,

"This particular pixel on my monitor is red"

sorry

I'm an idiot

kryshnysh

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jan 2006

Valkyrie Einherjar

Mo/

05 Jul 2006 at 20:01 - 14

Quote:

Originally Posted by Winstar

Some truths are not generalizations,

"This particular pixel on my monitor is red"

sorry

I'm an idiot My eyes have a slight distortion in sensitivity near the red end of the spectrum, that pixel appears orange to me....

Nice one.

/offtopic

Random PvE Truth #689321: Planning > Leeroy.

AW Lore

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2006

Ancient Warriors Gaming Clan

W/Mo

05 Jul 2006 at 21:00 - 15

Quote:

Originally Posted by kryshnysh

Random PvE Truth #689321: Planning > Leeroy.

Full Knight's armour is the best way of spotting a noob. with the new armor crafting style this is outdated

btw, my wammo used to use full knights, and did quite well

Beat_Go_Stick

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Feb 2006

05 Jul 2006 at 21:13 - 16

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chick Filet

E/Mo Healer LFG! This one makes me laugh on the PvE side.. don't get me wrong either prod HP E/Mo's in PvP can save your butt. I'm talking about the people starting E/Mo's thinking they are monks

Just thinking about reading this made my brain hurt...but I started anyway and dismissed it completely after the second line.

GG, leet-speaker.....gg.

Chick Filet

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Sep 2005

Gang

Mo/N

05 Jul 2006 at 21:52 - 17

Quote:

Originally Posted by Beat_Go_Stick

Just thinking about reading this made my brain hurt...but I started anyway and dismissed it completely after the second line.

GG, leet-speaker.....gg.
Well seeing as it was tough for you. I will let you in on a little secret. That was

me talking about other "people" in PvE, The type of language they use so... Beat

buddy if you want to talk of other people and quote them; at least have the

common courtesy to read what is typed, instead of two sentences champ.

GG Hooked on Phonics GG.....

VitisVinifera

Banned

Join Date: Nov 2005

Northern California

HoTR

N/Me

05 Jul 2006 at 22:21 - 18

Quote:

Originally Posted by AW Lore

umm, a guildie and i tried planning for raisu palace, and we failed, i next day i took my wammo with henchies, leeroyed my way to victory.

I love this new computergamese langue which we create on the fly where an imfamous yet obscure rpg character becomes a verb

Hollerith

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Sep 2005

05 Jul 2006 at 22:35 - 19

Fast casting Vengeance is the most fun I've ever had in the game.

Rent

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Feb 2006

Darkness Within

Mo/Me

05 Jul 2006 at 22:41 - 20

Truth: Anecdotes mean nothing.

Winstar

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2006

London

05 Jul 2006 at 23:04 - 21

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rent

Truth: Anecdotes mean nothing. I think you might be throwing the baby out with the bathwater.

Truth: Little Thom would kick Stephan Fighter Henchman's butt.

Lord Oranos

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2005

Fort Aspenwood

05 Jul 2006 at 23:07 - 22

Ok, what the hell, Ill add a couple.

Most pugs hate assassins.
Rt Healers are suitable replacements for monks.
Assassins shouldnt tank.
Neither should eles.
Most tanks dont know why they are tanks... they just let the aggro go.
An SS is a suitable replacement for an mm, and most of the time are better.
Aborstone sucks.

Talon would kill both Stephan and Little Thom.

Tiny Killer

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Apr 2006

Oshkosh, WI USA

Exile Champions of Heroic Order [ECHO]

06 Jul 2006 at 00:19 - 23

Hmm, let me think.

Warriors are better than Tanks.
Tanks don't know any better.
Many Rangers are unaware that they have 25 Elite skills to choose from.
Expertise FTW.
Axes are not better than swords, swords are not better than hammers, hammers are not better than axes, etc.
Green items are not inferior to a gold item with the same stats, they are just more affordable.

isamu kurosawa

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2005

United Kingdom

Me/

06 Jul 2006 at 00:30 - 24

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Primeval King

Anyone with FoW armor is rich.

Not true, i have it on my Necro and it took months to earn what was needed, i'd have BEEN rich if i sold what it cost, but ive been poor ever scince getting it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Primeval King

People seem to only want nuking fire eles in their group. true true, and it makes me a little annoyed sometimes after spending all the time to get all ele skills+weapons+headpices/runes etc. (i prefer air, my girlfriend plays only water on her ele)

Lafayette

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Dec 2005

06 Jul 2006 at 20:29 - 25

Quote:

Originally Posted by Akhilleus

rebirth is fine in mid-battle. IF IF IF IF IF its used propperly (ie NOT by a non-monk main).
ideally the monk should not be ressing in mid-battle unless they are 100% sure they can still keep people up and running, but a monk whose experienced in using rebirth can get it off without a hitch. and if a monk is using it mid-battle, they MUST have a -5 energy weapon switch. And only if it's not used to rez a monk. Anything is better than having a skill which leaves a newly-rezzed monk with no energy, very little health and all their skills disabled for 9-10 seconds. (And most people who I find use it in battles are wammos or R/Mos with 0-2 in protection prayers.) That monk is therefore useless for that duration, is an extra burden on the remaining monk(s) if any, and has cost the Rebirther their energy.

Rhuobhe

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2005

Less Crying is Key [kThx]

06 Jul 2006 at 20:52 - 26

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tiny Killer

Green items are not inferior to a gold item with the same stats, they are just more affordable. Slightly not true, as I learned earlier today.

If you meet the requirements it is true, however if you do not meet the req it is false. If you have a max green and gold shield with the same stats, then not meeting the req will give you +8AL for the gold and +3AL for the green.

The case is similar with focii and energy.

Mezmo

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jan 2006

Mo/W

07 Jul 2006 at 01:13 - 27

Here's an old truth: Freanzy + Heal Sig + Lots of big bad scary monsters = insta death + frustrated monks

Also....
Monks are invited to be healers, not smiters(so let people know if your a smiter and not a healer)

Complaning to a monk that thier not healing you will only result in less healing

All classes are steryotyped to do certain things

Guild Wars IS JUST A GAME!!!!! It's purpose is to make Anet lots of money and frustrate you to no end because you can't seem to get by THK without selling your soul first.

Stockholm

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2006

Censored

07 Jul 2006 at 01:54 - 28

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mezmo

Monks are invited to be healers, not smiters(so let people know if your a smiter and not a healer)

Don't blind invite my monk just because you want a healer, if I want to heal you I will ask you if I can join.

Relnor

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Feb 2006

07 Jul 2006 at 02:46 - 29

False: Its hard for a warrior to find a party.

True: Its easy to find a party as a W/N when you yell out, "Non-Wammo, LFG!"

lishi

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2005

07 Jul 2006 at 03:35 - 30

here how to use rebirth in middle of battle.

healing seed on the tank -> mantra of recall -> switch to my low energy weapon -> rebirth.

it still suck but we cant have everthing

Cebe

The 5th Celestial Boss

Join Date: Jul 2006

Inverness, Scotland

The Cult of Scaro [WHO]

07 Jul 2006 at 14:32 - 31

Might as well also pitch in...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lord Oranos

Aborstone sucks.

Allow me to tweak this..."Aborstone is a hellishly ******-up maze"

Also,
Certain characters get too serious and are way too elitest about who they take on their team.
There's nothing wrong with going back to do earlier missions to help noobs out - you can show off to them and you should always remember that you too were once a noob!
An elementalist makes a better assassin than an assassin (more so if they use Ride the Lightening).
The only time when two healers may become a necessity for a mission is when an assassin goes along for the ride, as they need a healer of their own.
All Warriors have colossal egos, in particular, those who tank.

...I'm done...

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Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2005

Natis Ignigena

Me/

07 Jul 2006 at 14:58 - 32

One that you never see mentioned much is that if someone in the group has a higher DP than the others in the group, the monsters will seem to go for them first.

The necro henches are psychic. They know everyone's energy at all times!

If you forget to buy keys before venturing out, all chests that are opened by other players are guaranteed to contain gold items

Oni run like girls.

I have yet to meet a truly dangerous group of Yetis.

The henchies say the funniest things when they're off-screen.

Kirin look like a cross between a goldfish and a horse. Unfortunate to say the least.

Minipets make so much noise you'll think you're being chased by monsters.

Senator Tom

Banned

Join Date: Aug 2005

California

[Dark]

07 Jul 2006 at 16:20 - 33

Full knights doesnt always mean they're noobs.

Nexus Icon

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2005

Natis Ignigena

Me/

07 Jul 2006 at 17:46 - 34

I would debate that, but okay, say you're right, full Knight's AND A FIERY DRAGON SWORD means guaranteed noob :P

anonymous

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2006

07 Jul 2006 at 18:19 - 35

Full knights doesnt = noob, some people like the looks and i hate how glads looks but i use it in pvp.

When you blind invite a monk, they are probably a smiter. I sit around with my monk, accept a blind invite then see gogogogogogogogo and once we are in I tell them Im a smiter.

Raxxman

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2005

TEOC

W/N

07 Jul 2006 at 20:31 - 36

Just cause a warrior is 2 steps infront of you doesn't mean he's gonna be able to hold all the monsters he is one person and the monsters forgot their can openers. Respect his personal space.

Carinae

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2005

Inside

Fifteen Over Fifty [Rare]

07 Jul 2006 at 20:55 - 37

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nexus Icon

a mesmer fast-casting Resurrection Chant is the best combat PvE res. Umm, no. Vengeance is the best combat resurrect spell.

duverga

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2005

07 Jul 2006 at 22:00 - 38

The Truth of PvE: "Everything can be henched."

Avarre

Bubblegum Patrol

Join Date: Dec 2005

Singapore Armed Forces

07 Jul 2006 at 22:15 - 39

Quote:

Originally Posted by Carinae Dragonblood

Umm, no. Vengeance is the best combat resurrect spell. And by far the most fun. Ever.

Truths :

Erys Vasburg is rank 9.

The only thing more noob than a fds wammo with mending is said wammo without points in healing (dear god, +1 mending whyyyyy)

Not everything can be henched, until they make henchmen in the elite / planar missions. Once they do, people will realize they work better than humans.

1 heal, 1 prot is typically better than 2 heal monks.

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Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2005

Natis Ignigena

Me/

07 Jul 2006 at 23:02 - 40

Quote:

Originally Posted by Carinae Dragonblood

Umm, no. Vengeance is the best combat resurrect spell. Have you even TRIED fast-casting res chant?
Mesmers are often at the back of the pack not getting attacked, so when they cast res chant, you come back with a substantial amount, if not all of your health.
And the target doesn't die when it runs out :E
I've ressed 4 people in quick succession and had them fighting fit as soon as they were ressed before.