Why isn't there any PvE only items?
Torn_Muffin
I mean that would keep the balance in PvP, and give something for PvE players too look forward for. Like a godly Legendary weapon, that takes forever to beat the quest...
crimsonfilms
Huh?
There are countless armors, weapons, dye colors, and etc that is PvE only. You can only bring it to PvP if you grind for it.
Second, 'Godly' stuff is against the Guild Wars philosophy that items and weapons as the determining factor.
There are countless armors, weapons, dye colors, and etc that is PvE only. You can only bring it to PvP if you grind for it.
Second, 'Godly' stuff is against the Guild Wars philosophy that items and weapons as the determining factor.
Torn_Muffin
I mean items you can't bring into PvP sorry for not clarifying.
Arkantos
What kind of items are you talking about?
lyra_song
*coughgamebalancecough*
Juicey Shake
pve is only to have cool armor at this point.. and to be able to do all the pve stuff, of course.
if you listened to this week's woc, izzy was saying they're gunna make more pvp items to match all the pve only items already existent.. the game is more focused on the competitive [pvp!] side, so having super good pve-only stuff isn't gunna happen.
if you listened to this week's woc, izzy was saying they're gunna make more pvp items to match all the pve only items already existent.. the game is more focused on the competitive [pvp!] side, so having super good pve-only stuff isn't gunna happen.
dreamhunk
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Originally Posted by Juicey Shake
pve is only to have cool armor at this point.. and to be able to do all the pve stuff, of course.
if you listened to this week's woc, izzy was saying they're gunna make more pvp items to match all the pve only items already existent.. the game is more focused on the competitive [pvp!] side, so having super good pve-only stuff isn't gunna happen. |
Loviatar
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Originally Posted by Arkantos
What kind of items are you talking about?
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little things like an pretty axe that has stats like thisdamage 35-135
plus 50 energy unconditional
and cancels out superior rune health penalties
nothing special
but pve only (a farmers simple tool)
Lolo Kalbo
We can have a level 40 Yeti. Then somewhere have a +50% damage against Yeti. Then somewhere else maybe a shield with +40 armor versus Yeti, or a wand that doubles damage versus Yeti. Maybe name them legendary weapons. Then have a title called legendary Yeti warrior. Then have the legendary weapons usable only by legendary Yeti warriors. This way, you have Level Up like processes in PvE that will not unbalance PvP. This is just one of many possibilities
Ristaron
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Originally Posted by lyra_song
*coughgamebalancecough*
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Originally Posted by Lolo Kalbo
We can have a level 40 Yeti. Then somewhere have a +50% damage against Yeti. Then somewhere else maybe a shield with +40 armor versus Yeti, or a wand that doubles damage versus Yeti. Maybe name them legendary weapons. Then have a title called legendary Yeti warrior. Then have the legendary weapons usable only by legendary Yeti warriors. This way, you have Level Up like processes in PvE that will not unbalance PvP. This is just one of many possibilities
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Draco Hunt
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Originally Posted by Lolo Kalbo
We can have a level 40 Yeti. Then somewhere have a +50% damage against Yeti. Then somewhere else maybe a shield with +40 armor versus Yeti, or a wand that doubles damage versus Yeti. Maybe name them legendary weapons. Then have a title called legendary Yeti warrior. Then have the legendary weapons usable only by legendary Yeti warriors. This way, you have Level Up like processes in PvE that will not unbalance PvP. This is just one of many possibilities
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Originally Posted by lyra_song
*coughgamebalancecough*
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No more comment on this topic.
Silly people(no offence though
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Seef II
Like, uh, candy canes?
konohamaru heaven
What he measn I believe is a Speical weapon better than the average weapon BUT, havea code with itthat doesnt allow it to enter the pvp enviroment like how the cand canes, snowmen, etc are not allowed to be used. the wepaons should be better thanaverageweapons but not super mega overpowered.
dreamhunk
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Originally Posted by konohamaru heaven
What he measn I believe is a Speical weapon better than the average weapon BUT, havea code with itthat doesnt allow it to enter the pvp enviroment like how the cand canes, snowmen, etc are not allowed to be used. the wepaons should be better thanaverageweapons but not super mega overpowered.
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WasAGuest
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Originally Posted by Juicey Shake
pve is only to have cool armor at this point.. and to be able to do all the pve stuff, of course.
if you listened to this week's woc, izzy was saying they're gunna make more pvp items to match all the pve only items already existent.. the game is more focused on the competitive [pvp!] side, so having super good pve-only stuff isn't gunna happen. |
dreamhunk
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Originally Posted by WasAGuest
Yea I would like a link as well; would help determine whether I am going to buy future GW games or not.
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pork soldier
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Originally Posted by Lolo Kalbo
We can have a level 40 Yeti. Then somewhere have a +50% damage against Yeti. Then somewhere else maybe a shield with +40 armor versus Yeti, or a wand that doubles damage versus Yeti. Maybe name them legendary weapons. Then have a title called legendary Yeti warrior. Then have the legendary weapons usable only by legendary Yeti warriors. This way, you have Level Up like processes in PvE that will not unbalance PvP. This is just one of many possibilities
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TheMosesPHD
Guild Wars has PvE? Nuh-uh I don't believe you!
Sanji
PvE is lacking in the difficulty department and more importantly balanced around the current level and gear cap. Maybe more variations in gear would be nice, but there really is no need to make -better- gear.
kvndoom
The only disadvantage a PVE toon has is being forced to cap Elite skills instead of buying them with faction. Non-elites I just buy at Ember Light camp with my farming toon who has over 250 unused skill points and 900k gold. PVP-only players:
-are stuck with one set of armor (two is ideal) and cannot ever have a secondary armor set, be it for vanity or functionality
-cannot go to any town to buy and sell stuff
-only get 2 weapons and offhands, when ideally they need 3 sets minumum
-have no money to buy extra equipment (need PVE toon or friends / guildies to get money)
-cannot participate in festivals and special events
-cannot use candy canes to make 60% DP disappear in a flash
...and the list goes on and on. And you still want more?
-are stuck with one set of armor (two is ideal) and cannot ever have a secondary armor set, be it for vanity or functionality
-cannot go to any town to buy and sell stuff
-only get 2 weapons and offhands, when ideally they need 3 sets minumum
-have no money to buy extra equipment (need PVE toon or friends / guildies to get money)
-cannot participate in festivals and special events
-cannot use candy canes to make 60% DP disappear in a flash
...and the list goes on and on. And you still want more?
Zehnchu
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Originally Posted by lyra_song
*coughgamebalancecough*
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lyra_song
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Originally Posted by Zehnchu
Is there really such a thing?
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Its just players are stubborn and dont like being told what to do
Fates
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Originally Posted by kvndoom
The only disadvantage a PVE toon has is being forced to cap Elite skills instead of buying them with faction...
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sigils
chance for free trips to Germany, Japan, US
Ya, no disadvantage there.
Juicey Shake
in my post I meant items found in pve that can be used in pvp too.. I donno if they'll make pve only super items that can ONLY be used in pve, didn't know if the OP meant that.. and I think JR hosts recordings of WoC but I 'onno, so gl finding it.. [Weapon of Choice = WoC, http://radioitg.com ]
KamikazeChicken
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Originally Posted by Fates Monk
/fame
sigils chance for free trips to Germany, Japan, US Ya, no disadvantage there. |
PvE characters currently > PvP characters because of obvious armor/weapon reasons. >.>
inscribed
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Originally Posted by lyra_song
I believe so. I feel that GW attempts to reconcile PvE aspects and PvP aspects as much as it can.
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Phades
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Originally Posted by Fates Monk
/fame
sigils chance for free trips to Germany, Japan, US |
Sigils do not matter, for the most part, unless you are being stubborn about not buying one from a npc. Even then, it just opens up the guild hall. The guildhall's primary purpose is to open up the gvg pvp aspect, which is something that should also not matter to a pve only player. The only optional purpose it serves, is having a place to be a meeting point after you go through the process of unlocking the npc services, which could be avoided entirely as well.
As for the championship trips, you actually have to umm pvp to qualify for it. I do not see how that can be a point of contention for strictly pve players.
Unless you are attempting to make a point to all pve only players to start participating in pvp, i really do not see the relevance here.
Curse You
Wow...
This thread is now just people either whinning that they should get ridiculous weapons to reward their "uber skillz", or debating about PvE characters vs. PvP characters.
Personally, on the subject of the actual thread, no I do not think they should make "godly" weaponry. What is the point? I do fine with my current stuff, so unless you're doing something very wrong, you shoud be fine.
This thread is now just people either whinning that they should get ridiculous weapons to reward their "uber skillz", or debating about PvE characters vs. PvP characters.
Personally, on the subject of the actual thread, no I do not think they should make "godly" weaponry. What is the point? I do fine with my current stuff, so unless you're doing something very wrong, you shoud be fine.
vaxmor
PvE is far too hard, PvErs need some godly overp0wered weaponry.
As for PvE chars being at a disadvantage to PvP chars. . .
K e K !
As for PvE chars being at a disadvantage to PvP chars. . .
K e K !
samifly
Like we need PvE to be any easier and less challenging
nugzta
To think that pve is already predictable and easy and you want uber weapon to make it even easier. Then it becomes obvious pvp >>>> pve in terms of skilled players.
dreamhunk
it has nothing to do with egos! it is about working hard to get something worth getting! more or less rewards for work.
that is just the mind set of rpg players.
that is just the mind set of rpg players.
-Loki-
There's little enough challenge in PvE already. You want items to make it even easier?
Kijik Oni Hanryuu
ya know what is sooooo dang funny is that people talk about PvE being extremely easy, then we get something hard like the Captain Rujiyo Missions and people whine until they die.
dreamhunk
I think people pushing for harder hack and slash will turn pve into ha. barely any one playing the game and no fresh blood and lack of players!
tons of egos
tons of egos
-Loki-
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Originally Posted by dreamhunk
I think people pushing for harder hack and slash will turn pve into ha. barely any one playing the game and no fresh blood and lack of players!
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Curse You
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Originally Posted by Kijik Oni Hanryuu
ya know what is sooooo dang funny is that people talk about PvE being extremely easy, then we get something hard like the Captain Rujiyo Missions and people whine until they die.
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Hidden in the Mist
I bet chapter 3 will introduce the +25 health weapons...
lyra_song
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Originally Posted by inscribed
Sorry, game balance is determined solely by PvP, not by PvE.
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Im talking about balance between the two aspects of the gameplay.
Pvp has something, Pve has something, both offer something different and together is the only way to truly experience guild wars completely.
-Loki-
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Originally Posted by lyra_song
Im not talking about skill balance -.-
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