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knives

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jun 2005

USA

Grenths Rejects [GR]

Me/

10 Jul 2005 at 21:34 - 41

Quote:

Originally Posted by Guild Powder

It's not fair anet makes it so hard to complete game with new char. We already did it once. Just give us UAS and access to all places we have been

If its so hard to complete the game with a new char, how the hell did you do it with your first? Its the exact same thing, only that you are using a different proffession, which means you must use a different strategy. Not the "Use mending, and just hack at everything with my w/mo that is so godly and 1337 and uber and better than everyone else."

Oh, I already bought this computer, just give me another free one just like it just because I have already bought one before. If you were the salesperson, would you give me the computer?

knives

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jun 2005

USA

Grenths Rejects [GR]

Me/

10 Jul 2005 at 21:36 - 42

Quote:

Originally Posted by hotspur

OK thanks, & whats at Droknars Forge to make it worth while to pay?

Don't pay (or do) one if you don't know whats there. Plain and simple. If this is your first PvE char, then don't. Trust me. You wouldn't want to get bored with a game you payed for just because of a mistake you made halfway through.

hotspur

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2005

England

New Dragons

W/Mo

10 Jul 2005 at 21:41 - 43

^ hehe, I wouldnt pay, whats the point in that?

Drakron

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

10 Jul 2005 at 21:41 - 44

First PvE characters unlike have the funds to pay the rusher, let alone afford to craft the armor (a set will cost 7.500 gp + materials).

knives

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jun 2005

USA

Grenths Rejects [GR]

Me/

10 Jul 2005 at 21:43 - 45

Quote:

Originally Posted by Drakron

First PvE characters unlike have the funds to pay the rusher, let alone afford to craft the armor (a set will cost 7.500 gp + materials).

Everyone has friends though. Your guild mates may help (of they know you pretty well) or if you have some friends IRL that had some spare gold lying around. So everything is possible, keep that in mind.

Nairo

Academy Page

Join Date: Jun 2005

Roses of the Moonlight Sigil [RoMS]

R/P

10 Jul 2005 at 21:48 - 46

Quote:

Originally Posted by Guild Powder

He wanted 2k upfront and i told him at ranknor.

WTF is up with that.

I'm getting flamed cause i hustled a hustler? The funny thing is that like 1 person paid him out of all of us. So im glad others were brave too.

No, you're being flamed because you decided to spite someone because they were able to get you through a very tough area. Did he say yes to being paid at Rankor? If so, then you really are at fault here.

Icarium

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2005

Calgary Ab Canada

Hell Bringers Clan [HELL]

Me/N

10 Jul 2005 at 22:00 - 47

Quote:

Originally Posted by Guild Powder

It's not fair anet makes it so hard to complete game with new char. We already did it once. Just give us UAS and access to all places we have been

How the hell does this justify ripping someone off 3k ?

oh and moan about UAS in any of the hundreds of UAS/UAR threads.

I can see all the rushing being a problem when it is low levels owning all in ascaon arena with droknars armor . .why not have an armor restricter in place for those that do this ? i had my 3rd char rushed to droknars, and was happy as hell to pay the 4 k i was charged,(not to mention it was pretty sweet to watch), then the rest of the missions were not a problem so much.

it was fun, kicking the crap out of newbs in ascaon, or even yaks ben isnt very cool, However to stomp through a mission that gave you hell the last 2 chars certanly IS fun

none

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2005

10 Jul 2005 at 22:03 - 48

Quote:

Originally Posted by crazy diamond

Quite the contrary. They miss out on valuable experience gained by actualy playing the game with other people, and many times end up doing ridiculously stupid things that any basic player would know. You get newbies in a high level area where you expect a greater degree of ability and skill.

I had a warrior figure out how adrenaline worked during the Abadons Mouth mission! It came as no surprise to me that he got run over and never played through the actual game! A player wearing full plate sitting in Iron Mines of Moladune asking what the difference was between expert and regular salvage kits, healing Monks that say that they won't use Divine Favor because 'it sucks', and Me/E's who think fast cast will make them uber-nukers are some of the idiots off the top of my head that I can remember grouping with who no doubt got run early in the game.

I also remember one fellow who got rushed up into Ring of Fire without so much as being infused! The mursaat would drop him like a rock in 2 seconds and he'd still swear up and down that he had been infused, which was obviously bullshit.

These are the kinds of idiots you have to deal with when you don't restrict the higher level areas.

I didn't refer to the Droknar Rushers in this case, but to those that are not lvl 20 when they are in the desert (and there is surprisingly few of them). I have never been lvl 20 before Ascencion (actually, my lvl right before Ascencion got lower everytime I started a new char). And the lower in level I was, the more difficult it was to find a group - so I just took henchies instead (oh well, I took henchies the first time through the game as well, but only because there was literally no one else around). Henchies are around lvl 15-18 in the desert, yet almost none of the players has that level - although none of the three Ascencion missions really requires a high level, but merely a tactical group.

btw, out of like 20 times I did Ring of Fire, only once (!!) I didn't have anyone in the group that wasn't infused. Funny thing is, I always start with - Everyone fully infused, I hope? - and I get back 7*yes. Then I wait until after the first fight against the Jade, and there's always someone who died within seconds (sometimes the Monks - if I'm not myself the Monk - don't even notice this). Well, I proceed to ask the person directly, if they are infused, and usually get things like: "Infusion??" "Oh yes, I am infused (and if you keep asking, they tell you, that they only one part of their armor is infused)" "Sure I am infused, isn't everyone infused that did Iron Mines (no, not if you didn't talk to the Seer ...)"

Eder

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2005

10 Jul 2005 at 22:20 - 49

I'll join the "I don't know what the big deal is" crowd.

If you don't like rushers, don't get rushed.

If you think it's unfair that people in Ascalon arena have a set of armor that ANYONE can have at any point in post-searing, don't play PvP on your PvE characters until they're level 20 or get that same set of armor by means which you deem "fair" enough.

I'd see issues if you had to exploit a bug or some such to get to Droknar's, but the way it is a) not a violation of the rules (AFAIK) and b) available to anyone.... so I don't see what the big deal is.

Plommon

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2005

Sweden

Shiverpeaks Wolves

N/Mo

10 Jul 2005 at 22:26 - 50

If anyone feels like taking my character to droknars ill pay you 4k 1k at beacon, 1k at camp rankor and 2k at droknars i have a few friends who would be more than app to travel with me

Mercury Angel

Avatar of Gwen

Join Date: Apr 2005

Wandering my own road.

10 Jul 2005 at 23:18 - 51

Easy way to beat those price-gouging stores

Agree to purchase something
Go into the store
Use your five finger discount to take stuff without paying then leave
Post about it on forums

To be honest, sounds exactly like that to me.
Simply because it's online, some people throw all hints of ethics out the window.

I had a friend whom I no longer speak to because he does just that. He says stores charge too much and he's just getting his fair share back by shoplifting. Right...

In capitalism, you express your power as a consumer by NOT BUYING THE PRODUCT when you find something wrong with it.

That goes for services as well.

If you don't like a specific store, there're other stores, both local and online to order from.

And if you don't like a specific runner, or don't want to pay to be run, then don't use them. Don't be run, or find a free one, or one more economical. If you feel you have to rip them off, I hope karma catches you and bites you in the butt for it later.

Guild Powder

Academy Page

Join Date: Jul 2005

10 Jul 2005 at 23:34 - 52

Quote:

Originally Posted by Plommon

If anyone feels like taking my character to droknars ill pay you 4k 1k at beacon, 1k at camp rankor and 2k at droknars i have a few friends who would be more than app to travel with me

NEVER give money at beacon. THats just asking for them to take it and run off.

Racthoh

Did I hear 7 heroes?

Join Date: May 2005

Scars Meadows [SMS], Guild Leader (Not Recruiting)

10 Jul 2005 at 23:39 - 53

What the hell is wrong with you people that want rushes? I can only imagine that amount of pain and agony you must go through when playing a console game that doesn't allow for this sort of thing, and you have you play through the entire game a second time. Heaven forbid you should play the game the way it was meant to be played. You spent the money on this game... ENJOY IT.

Why don't you just switch to PvP so every new character you make is already really strong since apparently 50% of the game just bores you. Why not do something constructive with all that time you save by designing a bot that for future events, rush yourself through! That way you can also get banned and can leave the rest of us alone. If the game bores you that much a second time through then get something else!

Why must you exploit this system? At the very least attempt to fight your way through so you're still getting some challenge out of the game. Just stop asking for rushes, or ways to stop rushers... just play the damn game.

This game is becoming as bad as Diablo II in almost every aspect... the economy, the rushing, the scamming... please DON'T make it any worse.

Eder

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2005

11 Jul 2005 at 00:24 - 54

Quote:

Originally Posted by Guild Powder

NEVER give money at beacon. THats just asking for them to take it and run off.

Yes, everyone listen to this guy's advice, because he makes a lot of sense! Oh yes, he does! It's only "fair" when YOU scam THEM.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Racthoh

What the hell is wrong with you people that want rushes? (...)

I don't get the reasoning behind this kind of attitude. That's like me feeling mad and offended because my neighbor mowns his lawn, so it looks prettier than mine. What's up with getting mad at stuff that doesn't affect you at all?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Racthoh

Why don't you just switch to PvP so every new character you make is already really strong since apparently 50% of the game just bores you.

You're assuming that people get rushed to Droknar because 50% of the game bores them. You know what they say about assuming.

Also, why don't YOU play the game the way I want you to play? That's how stupid the question you just asked is.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Racthoh

Why not do something constructive with all that time you save by designing a bot that for future events, rush yourself through!

Because that would be a violation of the rules.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Racthoh

Why must you exploit this system?

Getting rushed to Droknar's is not exploiting, AFAIK.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Racthoh

just play the damn game.

I suppose the same doesn't go for you? Just play the damn game and let people play the damn game. If they're violating the rules, report them and get them banned. If they're not, there's nothing you can do about it. You don't make the game's rules. If the current rules bother you so much, take your money elsewhere and let ANet know why you did it.

Guild Powder

Academy Page

Join Date: Jul 2005

11 Jul 2005 at 00:37 - 55

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eder

Yes, everyone listen to this guy's advice, because he makes a lot of sense! Oh yes, he does! It's only "fair" when YOU scam THEM.

um i never took money from anyone. I simply did not agree with them ripping people off charging them 3k for a place i have already been. AND HE RAISED IT TO 5K AT SNAKE DANCE

he was a jerk.

wow a big 10 minute run and he expects 5k from 7 people. LMAO loser.

Nairo

Academy Page

Join Date: Jun 2005

Roses of the Moonlight Sigil [RoMS]

R/P

11 Jul 2005 at 00:45 - 56

Quote:

Originally Posted by Guild Powder

um i never took money from anyone. I simply did not agree with them ripping people off charging them 3k for a place i have already been. AND HE RAISED IT TO 5K AT SNAKE DANCE

he was a jerk.

wow a big 10 minute run and he expects 5k from 7 people. LMAO loser.

What, the guy you were talking about at the beginning? See, I don't remember you saying that at the beginning.

Guild Powder

Academy Page

Join Date: Jul 2005

11 Jul 2005 at 00:48 - 57

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nairo

What, the guy you were talking about at the beginning? See, I don't remember you saying that at the beginning.

did i have to use all the details? why is this so important. This guy probably makes 100 of thousands a day just by scamming n00bs telling them that running is so great. ITS SO NOT FAIR. ANd tons of ppl do this. Whenever i go to beacons i tell people NOT TO PAY.

Nairo

Academy Page

Join Date: Jun 2005

Roses of the Moonlight Sigil [RoMS]

R/P

11 Jul 2005 at 00:52 - 58

But you're giving us all the info all at different times. If you would just have told us that he WAS trying to scam people like that, maybe some of the posts here would different.

Rocco The Flipside

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2005

W/N

11 Jul 2005 at 01:29 - 59

Personally, I think rushers are stupid. I am currently playing with my monk and I got to Ring of Fire from Pre-searing in four days--exactly 40 hours--and I enjoyed every minute of completing missions and quests. What is it with rushing to Droknar's forge? Why not ascent first and THEN go to Droknars? Personally, I kick all people below lvl 20 in missions post-ascension when I form a group. Their lazy semblance already shows.

PS, Guild Powder, please grow up you stupid n00b.

crazy diamond

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2005

11 Jul 2005 at 01:32 - 60

Quote:

Originally Posted by Guild Powder

um i never took money from anyone. I simply did not agree with them ripping people off charging them 3k for a place i have already been. AND HE RAISED IT TO 5K AT SNAKE DANCE

he was a jerk.

wow a big 10 minute run and he expects 5k from 7 people. LMAO loser.

You're a jerk yourself. I wouldn't be surprised if he raised the price because you kept bitching and moaning all the way.

Either way, you were the one who didn't hold up their end of the bargain and ripped him off.

So be happy you got away with it and stop complaining about it being unfair when you yourself can't be fair to others.

Garrett

Academy Page

Join Date: Apr 2005

Triple X {XXX}

Mo/

11 Jul 2005 at 01:35 - 61

Stop flogging the dead horse already

Thrain Longblade

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jul 2005

Fury of the Departed

W/

11 Jul 2005 at 05:05 - 62

Here's a n00b question of my own. What does infused mean?

Chaynsaw

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2005

11 Jul 2005 at 06:36 - 63

Infusion means the Mursaat won't beat you into the ground with Spectral Agony, their skill that does 100 dmg/sec to uninfused folks. With infusion, it does about 9.

Anyway, what to say that hasn't been said? I take hitchhikers to Drok's much of the time because I can't be arsed to charge, but those people that charge for a fair run down there.. considering that run is 25 minutes and not easy to make, I have NO problem with people that charge. Those of you trying to scam the "scammers" haven't got any business feeling proud or brave, you're just disgusting.

Darksci

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2005

London

Lords Of The Immortal [Loti]

R/W

11 Jul 2005 at 12:42 - 64

If you want a FREE ride then ask for it.

Say what your doing - don't be a scammer.

DEFINITION OF SCAMMER:
a person who swindles you by means of deception or fraud
HENCE: YOU ARE ONE

IF the runner changed the deal when running - hes a scammer. BUT that isn't the case is it? You seem to be against running on the whole.

Anyway, conclusion is that your a scammer.
But if people want a free ride, then ask for it.
Last week i got my character ran to forge for 3K - good service, and nice watching too.
Yestaday i wanted another character to be run to forge - but this time I said i wanted a free ride. Someone offered, and he gave five of us a free run.

Jaythen Tyradel

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Apr 2005

11 Jul 2005 at 13:17 - 65

Only simple answers for Draknor Rushes:

1.Close off the pass to Draknor Altogether. (but wont happen)
2.Put LVL Requirments on Armor (cant be worn/used unless at a certain level). Still wont happen though since either being retroactive(ppl with Draknors Armor log in to find that they cant use armor, complain about having to buy new armor) or reactive (new ppl complain that they cant get armor like everyone else used to be able to and complain its not fair).

I said simple answers, not actually possible or truly workable.

Talesin Darkbriar

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2005

California - irrigated desert...

The Myrmidon

E/N

11 Jul 2005 at 16:43 - 66

All angst and "scamming" aside, look at the big picture a moment:

Rushers are basically preying upon the stupid, greedy and avaricious players who want to obtain something they cannot normally have access to.
How many level 20's pay anyone to "rush" them anywhere?
Well, maybe the stupid ones do...

Are the rushers scamming these people?
Yes they are.
Why bother having levels or requirements for anything? Just pay pay pay to get it for no effort!

Then you have the OP who stated how he "scammed? the "scammer".
No that doesn't make it right, but I did think it was funny.

As long as players want to cheat in the game, there will always be those who in turn cheat them.
And of course we know there are almost no cheaters in GW right?

Regards,

Talesin

crazy diamond

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2005

11 Jul 2005 at 17:47 - 67

Quote:

Originally Posted by Talesin Darkbriar

As long as players want to cheat in the game, there will always be those who in turn cheat them.
And of course we know there are almost no cheaters in GW right?

It's not cheating when they agree on a fee for a service. However going back on your word and not paying up after the other person did his part is cheating out the person you made the deal with.

I swear, morals and etiquette go straight out the window when it comes to video games.

Artemis Bladewing

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2005

Usually Lions Arch 2

Clan Brotherhood

Mo/Me

11 Jul 2005 at 18:14 - 68

I dont see see the problem is in this. GW build its world and they actully included Lonars Pass and Snakes Dance. If ppl go and rush through let them for them. Getting the money for the rush and the armor does take time. I rushed through there 2 times just so that I can get down into the ice world and buy all the skills for PvP.

It is not cheating to go through there. Its like calling ppl that rush from Lions Arch to Sanctum Cay cheaters. Cheating is defined as breaking set up rules and NOT by doing something that U dont like. Do I call every player on GW a cheater cuz he sells black for 5k??? (it cost 1k in the beginning) or do I call someone cheater cuz he sells his Eco for 9k??? NO. If there is a demand, then someone has to fullfill the offer. It's kinda like saying someone who farms for 5 hours and has 20 gold items should give them away for free cuz he has so many.

I actully appreciate ppl who rush me through mission such us Eleonas or rush me through lonars pass because most of time I need to get skills. And if rush I am in a totally different instance then other players and there is no way that I affect their game play. I could continue about this stuff and talk about for example how stupid air elementalists remakes are ( get ur own team build idea of how to win!!) but thats not the point.

The point is: U are not God, U are not GW administrator, U do not work for Anet. These ppl do not delete ur acounts and dont bother u. All they do is request some money from n00bs who want to be rushed and they actully waste 25 minutes of their time to do that. THEIR CHOICE; LET THEM DO THAT. (Difference between farming for 25 minutes and rushing is that one is a secure way of money) THIS IS A GAME. YES, IT IS A GAME. NO ITS NOT REAL ITS A GAME.

toastgodsupreme

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2005

United States

Me/

11 Jul 2005 at 19:16 - 69

Quote:

Originally Posted by Talesin Darkbriar

Rushers are basically preying upon the stupid, greedy and avaricious players who want to obtain something they cannot normally have access to.

After my first character, I had all my other characters I made afterwards rushed to Droknars. I played through the game once already, I can afford the armor, the materials, the runes, the dyes, the taxi fee, why NOT? And I got one rushed by a guy who was doing a FREE run. I still paid him 2k for the service (and a lot of other people in the group tipped him as well).

Now let's look at the Crystal Desert, where my Ranger is currently. I got rushed to Elona's for free. I tipped the lady 1k for the service. Why? I've been through that damned desert 3 times already. I know how to take down each and every mob. I've done the job change quests so many times I'm a pro now. If I'm too lazy to walk/fight my ass through the desert and someone is willing to run, hell yes I'll take it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Talesin Darkbriar

Are the rushers scamming these people?
Yes they are.

Some, maybe. I've never been scammed. Hell, while on my Necro-remake in the Crystal Desert, I paid this one guy for a round trip map rush (basically, unlocking many, many towns in the Crystal Desert). I paid him at mid way, then my comp froze up (my page file hard drive went south). He gave me a refund when I got back. Hell of a nice guy.

Don't make it out like all runners are scammers.

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Originally Posted by Racthoh

What the hell is wrong with you people that want rushes? I can only imagine that amount of pain and agony you must go through when playing a console game that doesn't allow for this sort of thing, and you have you play through the entire game a second time.

I want better armor early on. I want better skills early on. If I can access them, then I will through being rushed. Improves the fun I have. No team I've been on has complained about "the guy who got rushed to Droknars". I'd prefer a team of Droknar-armor-wearing-asses-like-me in Ventari's than I would a regular team. Why? Because at least those kids have the sense to have gotten the best armor early on. Shows they know SOMETHING. Shows they've probably been through all this before and have an idea of what they're doing.

This discussion, the talk of Droknars altogether, needs to DIE. It's OLD. It's been beaten to death, brought back to life, and beaten back to death again.

If you would like to discuss Droknar Rushing, please see the following threads, I'm sure one of them is based on what kind of bitching you'd like to do:
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...light=droknars

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...light=droknars

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...light=droknars

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...light=droknars

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...light=droknars

Artemis Bladewing

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2005

Usually Lions Arch 2

Clan Brotherhood

Mo/Me

11 Jul 2005 at 19:51 - 70

thx for the thread listing maybe this will make ppl finally shut up.

Damon Windwalker

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2005

The Wandering Gits

11 Jul 2005 at 20:00 - 71

I think all this whining is funny.

One of the things that attracted me to Guild Wars was the emphasis on creativity and strategy. Find ways of doing things.

So some people have found a way to meet a demand (earlier players getting better armor). They offer a service. And, like any service, they charge what the market will pay.

It's kinda like taking my car to Jiffy Lube. I could change my oil myself for about $15 or less. Why would I pay Jiffy Lube $40? They provide a service, I can choose to use it or not use it. Are they scamming? No - they give exactly what they say up front that they will give. Am I stupid for using them (or not using them?) The value is strictly for me to decide.

It's amusing. I see quotes like this:
"What the hell is wrong with you people that want rushes? I can only imagine that amount of pain and agony you must go through when playing a console game that doesn't allow for this sort of thing, and you have you play through the entire game a second time. Heaven forbid you should play the game the way it was meant to be played. You spent the money on this game... ENJOY IT."

...and I have to laugh. It seems that you are the one in pain and agony over this - not the people who are rushing/paying rushers.

Play the game. Enjoy it. Let others play it the way they want to play it. What difference does it make to you? Are you just pissed that you didn't think of the idea first?

drowningfish999

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

Awakened Tempest [aT]

11 Jul 2005 at 20:07 - 72

The people that are always saying "play the game the way it was meant to be played" are contradicting themselves. The game was not meant to be played multiple times through as stated by the "grind free" advertisment. I don't really want to get into to anything about grind because it could get REALLY ugly, but if the game designers made it possible to skip certain parts of the game, then they obviously don't have a problem with you taking advantage of it. What do you think the point of Snake Dance, Lornar's Pass, etc. is? To look pretty?

Ishamael Sedai

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2005

11 Jul 2005 at 20:18 - 73

Quote:

Originally Posted by Guild Powder

um i never took money from anyone. I simply did not agree with them ripping people off charging them 3k for a place i have already been. AND HE RAISED IT TO 5K AT SNAKE DANCE

he was a jerk.

wow a big 10 minute run and he expects 5k from 7 people. LMAO loser.

Is your word not worth anything to you? When I give my word I want to back it up because it is worth something to me. One reason is that having a good name is important when I am trading with other people online. Secondly I take pride that what I say means something. It doesn't matter if he was asking you 1 million gold for the trip. If you do not think its fair then just walk away and use someone else? How hard is that? What do you think they should charge. In 10 minutes I can make 3k. If nothing else I know that you don't care about your word much at all and you have no clue how to farm. You have no idea how valuable 10 minutes is.

Arthur Eld

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2005

The Heathenreel

Me/E

11 Jul 2005 at 20:28 - 74

I can't believe everyone. This is a problem with a SIMPLE solution that everyone has seemingly overlooked.

Guild Powder is a moron.

It took me five words to say what 3 pages of responses have been trying to say this whole time.

*Note* The word "moron" is also interchangeable in this case with "idiot" and "asshole".

arnansnow

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jun 2005

DOOM

E/N

11 Jul 2005 at 20:32 - 75

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arthur Eld

I can't believe everyone. This is a problem with a SIMPLE solution that everyone has seemingly overlooked.

Guild Powder is a moron.

It took me five words to say what 3 pages of responses have been trying to say this whole time.

*Note* The word "moron" is also interchangeable in this case with "idiot" and "asshole".

I entirely agree, but I would use much stronger words.

Ishamael Sedai

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2005

11 Jul 2005 at 20:32 - 76

Quote:

Originally Posted by Guild Powder

did i have to use all the details? why is this so important. This guy probably makes 100 of thousands a day just by scamming n00bs telling them that running is so great. ITS SO NOT FAIR. ANd tons of ppl do this. Whenever i go to beacons i tell people NOT TO PAY.

You are really dumb. First you are not someone's mom. You have no right to tell someone what is fair to them or not. Some people don't think paying 100k is fair for a sword. Should they go tell someone who is paying 500k for a fellblade don't do it because its not fair? Dang let people play their own game.

Most of the people being run are not noobs. I for instance have a very specific reason for having my monk run and that is to get my monk leveled so I can use a monk in UW and FoW. 3k is practically nothing to me and definitely worth it. What was I going to use it on anyway? To tell you the truth if no one was running for 3k and people were only charging 30k I would have paid 30k. You have 2 problems which I stated earlier. First is you are wanting to be everyone's mom. Secondly you have no clue how to make money on this game.

Let me ask you a question. Would it be fair to pay someone 100 gold to be runned to drok's. What 3k is to many people, 100 gold is to you. But see you probably don't know that nor believe that. If you would keep your mouth shut no problem, but you insist on telling people that something isn't fair for them when in reality you don't have a clue about them.

Ishamael Sedai

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2005

11 Jul 2005 at 20:47 - 77

Quote:

Originally Posted by Talesin Darkbriar

All angst and "scamming" aside, look at the big picture a moment:

Rushers are basically preying upon the stupid, greedy and avaricious players who want to obtain something they cannot normally have access to.
How many level 20's pay anyone to "rush" them anywhere?
Well, maybe the stupid ones do...

Are the rushers scamming these people?
Yes they are.
Why bother having levels or requirements for anything? Just pay pay pay to get it for no effort!

Then you have the OP who stated how he "scammed? the "scammer".
No that doesn't make it right, but I did think it was funny.

As long as players want to cheat in the game, there will always be those who in turn cheat them.
And of course we know there are almost no cheaters in GW right?

Regards,

Talesin

Or people being rushed are people who have devoted 600 or 700 hours to characters who have done all or 99% of the quests and don't feel like spending any more time than is needed redoing low level quests...

I don't have people pay me to take my level 20 somewhere but why couldn't I if I want it. If I am close to a million anyway and I can't get over that amount. What if I want to pay someone to take me around the guildwars world. What if I want to pay someone to run back and forth for 10 minutes? What if I feel like paying someone to wand only kill 20 enemies while I watch?

Its not a cheat. Arena designed it that way. Surely if they are bright enough to design games they have the foresight to know that this would happen. It is a big version of what many people have done at least once in a game. Have you never had a quest at lets say around level 15 or level 16 or even level 18 that a big 20 level friend with max armor came and helped on. This is just a bigger picture of that.

I'll say this it suprises me that people come on here and call us people who are rushed lazy or what not. Many of us being rushed have spent much more time in this game than you have.

kleps

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2005

W/Mo

11 Jul 2005 at 20:58 - 78

Quote:

Originally Posted by arnansnow

I entirely agree, but I would use much stronger words.

why would this not surprise me if this guy were internop whatever the hell his name was?

arnansnow

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jun 2005

DOOM

E/N

11 Jul 2005 at 20:59 - 79

Quote:

Originally Posted by kleps

why would this not surprise me if this guy were internop whatever the hell his name was?

I am actually not internosp. Why do you think I am?

I admit I went a little overboard with that post, though.

Guild Powder

Academy Page

Join Date: Jul 2005

11 Jul 2005 at 21:01 - 80

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ishamael Sedai

Or people being rushed are people who have devoted 600 or 700 hours to characters who have done all or 99% of the quests and don't feel like spending any more time than is needed redoing low level quests...

I don't have people pay me to take my level 20 somewhere but why couldn't I if I want it. If I am close to a million anyway and I can't get over that amount. What if I want to pay someone to take me around the guildwars world. What if I want to pay someone to run back and forth for 10 minutes? What if I feel like paying someone to wand only kill 20 enemies while I watch?

Its not a cheat. Arena designed it that way. Surely if they are bright enough to design games they have the foresight to know that this would happen. It is a big version of what many people have done at least once in a game. Have you never had a quest at lets say around level 15 or level 16 or even level 18 that a big 20 level friend with max armor came and helped on. This is just a bigger picture of that.

I'll say this it suprises me that people come on here and call us people who are rushed lazy or what not. Many of us being rushed have spent much more time in this game than you have.

Thats true but i dont understand why they cant give you access to all areas on a new char once u beat game