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Righty

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Jul 2005

Mo/

12 Jul 2005 at 01:49 - 1

https://home.comcast.net/~croal/griffonfarm.WMV

A bit sucky on quality but i can't go over 6mb

enjoy.

skills use in order as movie:
1. balthazar's aura
2. symbol of wrath (this can be replaced for shield of judgment of you can get ahold of it.. if not this will do)
3. healing breeze
4. bonetti's defence
5. protective bond
6. essence bond
7. balthazar's spirit
8. mending

attributes:
9 healing prayers
14 smiting prayers
14 protection (this must be 14 for protective bond to work right)
9 divine favor
4 tactics

gear:
As for weapon i use the collectors smiting staff 20/20 upgraded with an insightful 5 energy and enchanting 20%.

armor is not needed much for this build you can get the ascalon city armor and upgrade with runes, altho you might wanna get the Ascetic's armor for the extra energy but it is not required.

credits:
song used- Go with the flow by Queens Of the Stoneage

Arturo02

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

See that third planet from the sun?

Sacred Forge Knights

R/Me

12 Jul 2005 at 02:15 - 2

Quote:

Originally Posted by Righty

https://home.comcast.net/~croal/griffonfarm.WMV

A bit sucky on quality but i can't go over 6mb

enjoy.

Not bad, and you know your comcast account has 25mb storage, not 6. I have comcast also. And if you open up your additional email accounts, you get another 25 mb each account of storage.

Use that extra space to improve the video quality. Besides that and it seems like the same as the other farming video, not too shabby.

Great song btw as a choice. QSA rock!

cyrax

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Jun 2005

E/R

12 Jul 2005 at 02:34 - 3

WOW ur amazing i have never seen anything like that >_> ima monk to can u tell me what ur skills were and what ur attributes were and stuff

Red Locust

Site Contributor

Join Date: May 2005

12 Jul 2005 at 02:46 - 4

If I'm not mistaken, they were:

balthazar's aura
symbol of wrath
healing breeze
bonetti's defense
protective bond
essence bond
balthazar's spirit
mending

I'm pretty sure he used a lot of superior runes to bring his health down to double digits, then mending and healing breeze alone can keep him alive forever while protective bond is active. I personally prefer mo/me with channeling, zealots, and divine boon (instead of bonettis, mending and breeze). Much faster killing.

Lasareth

Aquarius

Join Date: Jun 2005

Somewhere between Boardwalk and Park Place

12 Jul 2005 at 02:53 - 5

After the last farming vid topic here, you'll forgive me if I just pass on this one >_>;

Righty

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Jul 2005

Mo/

12 Jul 2005 at 03:04 - 6

Quote:

Originally Posted by Red Locust

If I'm not mistaken, they were:

balthazar's aura
symbol of wrath
healing breeze
bonetti's defense
protective bond
essence bond
balthazar's spirit
mending

skills are as said above.

attributes: 9healing 14smite 14protection 9divine 5tactics.
and 5 superior runes to armor to bring health to 105.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Red Locust

I personally prefer mo/me with channeling, zealots, and divine boon (instead of bonettis, mending and breeze). Much faster killing.

I would imagine that to be more of a hastle without any heals overtime such as mending.. with all the running youl be doing.

Anarchist_Monk

Academy Page

Join Date: Jun 2005

Remnants of Ascalon

Mo/R

12 Jul 2005 at 03:44 - 7

I must say, impressive.

Dax

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2005

12 Jul 2005 at 04:19 - 8

Wow I agree impressive. (being the jealous N/W)

Young_Anakin

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2005

12 Jul 2005 at 04:45 - 9

this will be nerfed within the week.

XeNoGeArZ

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2005

12 Jul 2005 at 05:52 - 10

Quote:

Originally Posted by Young_Anakin

this will be nerfed within the week.

That is what I am afraid of as well, even though it is a legitimate build and doesn't fall in the category of 'exploit'. For all that are doing the griffon run, or any other type of farming, it would be wise to keep it on the down low.

Or the next thing you know, they will put a mana-draining squid like they did for Ember Light Camp, near the Flesh Golems. Yeah it's probably too late since most people know about the Griffon Run beacuse of that other topic, which was very inspiring, but for future reference, when ever you find a good farming spot, and feel the need to express your "awesomeness" to everyone, it might be better to surpress it.

No offense meant to anyone.

Garrett

Academy Page

Join Date: Apr 2005

Triple X {XXX}

Mo/

12 Jul 2005 at 05:58 - 11

Quote:

Originally Posted by XeNoGeArZ

when ever you find a good farming spot, and feel the need to express your "awesomeness" to everyone, it might be better to surpress it.

This man is correct.

nyamamoto

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2005

12 Jul 2005 at 06:44 - 12

enjoy this area while you can everyone ...

Red Locust

Site Contributor

Join Date: May 2005

12 Jul 2005 at 07:41 - 13

Yes, because I'm sure ANet, despite being able to pinpoint and ban individuals exploiting certain bugs and going through the same zones over and over again without hesitation, need to read these forums to figure out what areas are being farmed the most.

:|

Wings of Illusion

Academy Page

Join Date: Jul 2005

Wings

Illusion

12 Jul 2005 at 09:05 - 14

Quote:

Originally Posted by Young_Anakin

this will be nerfed within the week.

maybe. maybe not. i hope not. this is how i farm too.

Silmor

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Mar 2005

12 Jul 2005 at 09:51 - 15

My main problem with this sort of farming is using protective bond on artificially low max health. I don't believe the skills (protective bond/protective spirit) were intended to be used in that fashion - double digit (or even single digit) max health is just unnatural. I wouldn't mind a nerf on those two skills to include a minimum damage cap to prevent them reducing damage too much.

The enchantment-heavy farming builds already caused ArenaNet to increase the amount of enchantment removers: adding removals on existing enemies, adding many necro/mesmer monsters with removal capabilities to the spawn. This tends to dumb down PvE for non-farmers: enchantment removal is no longer a possibility, but something you have to count on, and PvE is shallow enough as it is - this sort of farming might cause every encounter to eventually be exactly the same. Fun.

Right now it makes farming far less of a challenge for Monks than for other classes, which is somewhat expectable due to the naturally stronger self-preservation capabilities of a monk, but barring enchantment removal Protective Spirit/Bond skew the balance of ease too far towards monks.

Zoe the Zeer

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Jul 2005

Total Mad Ownage

Mo/Me

12 Jul 2005 at 10:10 - 16

Superior Runes bringing Health to 105? That must be a bug, no?

Silmor

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Mar 2005

12 Jul 2005 at 11:13 - 17

There's more ways of reducing your maximum health than superior runes, it's just the combination of all those things that suddenly makes Protective Spirit/Protective Bond very potent. People use the negative aspect of a balancing mechanic (reduced maximum health) to their advantage in a way that appears to defy the intention of the developers, for the sole purpose of accomodating playing the game in a way it was not designed around.

TuLkAs

Academy Page

Join Date: Jun 2005

W/Me

12 Jul 2005 at 11:14 - 18

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zoe the Zeer

Superior Runes bringing Health to 105? That must be a bug, no?

I think he used the same superior rune twice, it doesnt stack skill wise, but I believe it still reduces his life by 75

5 superior runes x -75 each = -375hp 480hp - 375hp=105hp

silvertemplar

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2005

Me/N

12 Jul 2005 at 11:43 - 19

Now that is clever, protective bond, low max hp, haha and here i thought hydra runs with protective bond was just a novelty trick to freak out the team.....

Btw: Is that a DP i see there in the beginning ? [i.e lowering HP even more or was that due to failed attempts???]

Btw2: Shouldnt it possible to farm Hydras with Balanced Stance like that too? Considering there are so many these days and they are nicely outside outposts too.....

IcyFighter

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2005

Mo/Me

12 Jul 2005 at 12:20 - 20

I hope I get credit!

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...t=25815&page=1

BellyFlop

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

12 Jul 2005 at 13:24 - 21

could anyone tell me what outpost(mission) is this place?

Thanks

IcyFighter

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2005

Mo/Me

12 Jul 2005 at 14:50 - 22

It's in the crystal desert. Specifically, I don't know.

Algren Cole

Banned

Join Date: Jun 2005

12 Jul 2005 at 15:03 - 23

lol...that's pretty clever

davidtann

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Jul 2005

royal assassins

E/Mo

12 Jul 2005 at 17:58 - 24

i wish someone knew where this spot was

demure

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Jun 2005

Houston, Texas

E/N

12 Jul 2005 at 18:10 - 25

Thats damn clever

Granamyr

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2005

Mo/

12 Jul 2005 at 18:13 - 26

Did any rares drop? Farming used to be fun when you could actually get good stuff....now it's just for gold. Ettins are the only monsters that consistently drop a rare item.....unfortunately, it's a rune.

Srilina

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Jun 2005

12 Jul 2005 at 18:33 - 27

Amusing video, now I'm wishing I had a Mo/W, laughs. What song did you use?

cyrax

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Jun 2005

E/R

12 Jul 2005 at 18:56 - 28

where is that spot

Righty

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Jul 2005

Mo/

12 Jul 2005 at 20:35 - 29

this place is in prophet's path right outside augury rock and the song is "go with the flow" by Queens Of the Stone age.

I used 5 superior runes in there you can also use items with -health to bring health but if you dont have access to any a simple death penalty will bring you lower

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CrAcK_MoNk3y

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Jul 2005

12 Jul 2005 at 21:04 - 30

just wondering, what weapon do you use and what clothes do you wear?

Righty

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Jul 2005

Mo/

12 Jul 2005 at 21:51 - 31

(edited first post).

Legendary Battousai

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2005

CA

[Ryuk]

W/A

18 Jul 2005 at 01:48 - 32

well i am the master at this build, if you have a lot of time and want to perfect it, get a protective icon with +1 protection skills(20% chance) [guy is outside lions arch and inbetween asc settlement and LA that gives one for scalps] and get a focus with -20 hp to wear after you cast. for attributes, use 16 prot, 10 smite, 13 healing (for mending to be +4) and divine favor 6 (blessed signet). use the +1 prot icon so you get a 17 protection with that icon and cast protective bond and you will only lose 1 hp when its on you. switch to the focus item with -hp to get your hp to 80 or lower. then which is a really annoying skill to get, get Aura of the Lich to make your hp to 40. you should only take 2 damage and get a regen of 8 life per second. use your smiting prayers and you can kill just about anything and each time you get hit by non mesmer/monk staffs, you get 1 energy. its my perfected build that took forever to get the items for T.T

generik

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2005

18 Jul 2005 at 02:15 - 33

The song is "Go With The Flow" by Queens of the Stone Age

headachebr

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2005

Brazil | Laurel, MD

Born to be [WILD]

Mo/

21 Jul 2005 at 03:10 - 34

[quote="Silmor"]My main problem with this sort of farming is using protective bond on artificially low max health. I don't believe the skills (protective bond/protective spirit) were intended to be used in that fashion - double digit (or even single digit) max health is just unnatural. I wouldn't mind a nerf on those two skills to include a minimum damage cap to prevent them reducing damage too much.
[quote]

Just answer me this

How more fun can a game be after you have finished it if you cannot farm?

I mean, there is no purpose to play the game after you finish it, only if you want to have best armor/weapon in game to use in GvG or something but how are you going to get those items? Play the missions over and over to get items? I don't think so.

ArenaNet should never do anything about skills. They created it, tested it and then they released it because they thought the skills were good to go. Now you think they should change them? Don't think so...

If you think that this build is easy, then create the same one and start farming the H*** UP! :P

Moofoo Pork

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2005

Brothers Of The Illuminati

21 Jul 2005 at 03:24 - 35

can ppl please stop posting farming videos of this place!!!.... Anet will put rockshot devours everywhere that will perfectly disrupt everything u try to use now(or something like that).

I'll have to go search for another spot now....

generik

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2005

21 Jul 2005 at 04:37 - 36

My $5 says there will be jade scarabs there next week.

They just casually come up to you and... chillibanes!

aB-

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2005

21 Jul 2005 at 06:33 - 37

Quote:

Originally Posted by headachebr

Just answer me this

How more fun can a game be after you have finished it if you cannot farm?

I mean, there is no purpose to play the game after you finish it, only if you want to have best armor/weapon in game to use in GvG or something but how are you going to get those items? Play the missions over and over to get items? I don't think so.

He was complaining about the use of protective bond to make a character nearly invincible, as it was not intended to be used this way. He was not complaining about farming in general.

Quote:

Originally Posted by headachebr

ArenaNet should never do anything about skills. They created it, tested it and then they released it because they thought the skills were good to go. Now you think they should change them? Don't think so...

Just because skills have been tested and released doesn't mean you shouldn't change them. If a very abusive skill way to use a skill was found, don't you think it would be better if they modified it? And ArenaNet has already made changes to skills in their previous updates, so they obviously think it's fine to change skills after they've been released.

Saerden

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2005

21 Jul 2005 at 06:59 - 38

Quote:

Originally Posted by Silmor

There's more ways of reducing your maximum health than superior runes, it's just the combination of all those things that suddenly makes Protective Spirit/Protective Bond very potent. People use the negative aspect of a balancing mechanic (reduced maximum health) to their advantage in a way that appears to defy the intention of the developers, for the sole purpose of accomodating playing the game in a way it was not designed around.

This is exactly how GW is suposed tp be played ... and every other competitve game for the matter ... only dumb people play dumb games in accordance with a dumb "spirit of the game" ...
too bad ANET decides to go the way of reducing fun, instead of reducing grind...

oh and the skills are perfectly balanced (well better then in most games, for sure) - its just that mobs are too dumb to adjust to players, so ANET uses "cheap necro / mesmer mobs" everywhere stragegies to stop farming ... even more fun then the usual "kill mob, move to exactly same mob further ahead" mission design ...

Aphalite

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jul 2005

21 Jul 2005 at 07:17 - 39

they changed grenth's balance the other day

trecca

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2005

Italy

Dark Evil Angels [DEA]

W/

21 Jul 2005 at 10:21 - 40

impressing movie!