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Heh one random team vs one well planed team = a real challange
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What's your take if we added a random grouping button in HOH?
lishi
asd334
/signed
I like the idea for random groups for HOH cause people make a group for 10 seconds then just leave its annoying ya good one
I like the idea for random groups for HOH cause people make a group for 10 seconds then just leave its annoying ya good one
asd334
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great idea ! that would give all the poor necros a chance to show their greatness
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Timoz
>without reading a lot of the replies to this<
I think its a stupid idea, my guild pick up enough 'free fame' as its known from uw, burial, everywhere etc.. we don't skip at all through any maps, ever.. we work our way to hoh, and win.
Theres already a lack of skipping for teams and you might say its better to work up there, but i mean, would just clog up the system.. more.
Another thing, u want a team, a random pug team or whatever, go to euro english 1, garunteed random invite pug team.
Hmm, why did they create the random team arenas i wonder, for ppl who couldnt be bothered to organise to go play in...
Fair enough if you want to introduce this and the majority do, fine no arguments here, but the meaning of 'free fame' -already damned easy will get even easier... maybe people see this as a good thing.. not so much here, it wont require effort to get ranked anymore if its introduced.
I think its a stupid idea, my guild pick up enough 'free fame' as its known from uw, burial, everywhere etc.. we don't skip at all through any maps, ever.. we work our way to hoh, and win.
Theres already a lack of skipping for teams and you might say its better to work up there, but i mean, would just clog up the system.. more.
Another thing, u want a team, a random pug team or whatever, go to euro english 1, garunteed random invite pug team.
Hmm, why did they create the random team arenas i wonder, for ppl who couldnt be bothered to organise to go play in...
Fair enough if you want to introduce this and the majority do, fine no arguments here, but the meaning of 'free fame' -already damned easy will get even easier... maybe people see this as a good thing.. not so much here, it wont require effort to get ranked anymore if its introduced.
asd334
its a great idea ill sign it again /signed
Imp
I love this idea BUT I think that random teams should face random teams. and after a certin amount of wins you get moved to temed HoH for a chance to win the HoH.
Just like random arena
/sign
Just like random arena
/sign
Kakumei
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Another thing, u want a team, a random pug team or whatever, go to euro english 1, garunteed random invite pug team.
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maybe it's just a glitch
Autumn_Leaf
/signed. wonder how a 2 month old posts gets revived.
emil knight
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/signed. wonder how a 2 month old posts gets revived.
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But getting back to the OP...
/signed
I don't care about the detractors to this idea because of "easy faction". Personally if they had a "Random Only" version of HoH I'd be all for it.
Why not? Every team that enters is random... one group fights it's mismatched way to the top... I'd say they deserved the right to be there just as much as any formed party and claim the prize that would rightfully be thiers.
I think more people would give HoH a try if this were put in and EVERYONE would get a chance to play... might even give those people who can't get into a group becuase of all the "built" parties not needing thier skills and chance to get used to fighting in the HoH and just MAYBE prepare them for a team build.
It would need tweaking, no doubt, but it could work.
Timoz
Well then, maybe they should open another district in the tombs for those who 'cannot be bothered' to get any organisation and then you can all go random invite in there... 
neoteo
/agree , most teams are ramdom there anyway
and since we all know that to win the hoh you need a good especific build , playing the random would be just for those who know they will lose after 1 or 2 matches ...
and since some people do get rich in casinos , who knows if one of these randoms builds could win the hoh ...
i gree with the competitions arenas being just random or semi random ( i think there is a litle planing in the software )
but for team arenas would be also fun to have the 2 choices , something like , random vs random , team vs randam , team vs random , team vs team , only after most random teams lose ... if you know what i mean ...
for tombs the same , make random fight random teams , and sure organized teams fight winer random teams.
organized team fights 2 random teams if continues to win gets to fight another organized team that as won 2 random teams also ..
something like that ...
im sure pvp as a lot of balance stuff like this
and since we all know that to win the hoh you need a good especific build , playing the random would be just for those who know they will lose after 1 or 2 matches ...
and since some people do get rich in casinos , who knows if one of these randoms builds could win the hoh ...
i gree with the competitions arenas being just random or semi random ( i think there is a litle planing in the software )
but for team arenas would be also fun to have the 2 choices , something like , random vs random , team vs randam , team vs random , team vs team , only after most random teams lose ... if you know what i mean ...
for tombs the same , make random fight random teams , and sure organized teams fight winer random teams.
organized team fights 2 random teams if continues to win gets to fight another organized team that as won 2 random teams also ..
something like that ...
im sure pvp as a lot of balance stuff like this
Forboding Angel
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/signed again for authanticity!
/signed again for authanticity!
emil knight
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Well then, maybe they should open another district in the tombs for those who 'cannot be bothered' to get any organisation and then you can all go random invite in there...
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Some people simple don't know the strategies it takes to play at the HoH. There are those that would like to learn, but they would also like to see what they are up against.
I've seen people say "Forming a group, if you're lower than X rank, don't bother!" There are newer people who just want to give it a try... problem is most of the "l33t" people there don't "want to be bothered" with newer or less skilled players.
Adding random would give more people and opportunity to find out what HoH is all about and maybe encourage them to learn the strategies necessary to take the prize with an organized team.
Timoz
And for those higher ranked people who want ppl in their team who have a clue in hell what their doing, i assure you, they wouldnt be using this function.
Besides, if you played random, people aren't going to implement a build with random proffessions and nobody is going to listen if its random people, you got the problem of no communication, organisation, anything.. ts vent... people cant log into that in the 40 or so seconds before you start the games...
..you can't organise a group in this time, i don't see the benefit.
If you want to learn read up on forums about builds, try your own stuff out...
If you cannot be bothered- thats why people don't want you in their group, they want to do well and win and stand more of a chance, chances are the higher rank you are the more clue you have about what the hell you are doing.
..and if you are playing just for fun, you wanna do well and have fun in that way, work a bit harder first, people didn't get higher rank without working for it.. like i said before, random team arenas, you already have this function in game.. learn more there..
Is this a pve forum or something.. are there no pvp-ers around here who can see what i mean?
Besides, if you played random, people aren't going to implement a build with random proffessions and nobody is going to listen if its random people, you got the problem of no communication, organisation, anything.. ts vent... people cant log into that in the 40 or so seconds before you start the games...
..you can't organise a group in this time, i don't see the benefit.
If you want to learn read up on forums about builds, try your own stuff out...
If you cannot be bothered- thats why people don't want you in their group, they want to do well and win and stand more of a chance, chances are the higher rank you are the more clue you have about what the hell you are doing.
..and if you are playing just for fun, you wanna do well and have fun in that way, work a bit harder first, people didn't get higher rank without working for it.. like i said before, random team arenas, you already have this function in game.. learn more there..
Is this a pve forum or something.. are there no pvp-ers around here who can see what i mean?
IxChel
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Besides, if you played random, people aren't going to implement a build with random proffessions and nobody is going to listen if its random people, you got the problem of no communication, organisation, anything.. ts vent... people cant log into that in the 40 or so seconds before you start the games...
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1. one protection monk (one /w high protection and 3+ protection skills)
2. one healing monk (/w high healing and 3+ healing skills)
3/4. two warriors (more or less random)
5. one mesmer /w either backfire or interrupts; or
one ranger /w distracting shot and/or choking gas
6. one necromancer /w curses line; or
one hydromancer /w slow
7. one damage dealer; fire/air elementalist; or illusion mesmer
or life-transfer necro
8. one "random" caster or ranger.
This logic wouldn't be hard, and would allow most random groups to be at least somewhat competent in their execution -- granted, it'd be a baseline known build; but so what? Further, the logic could code-in several other "fun" builds that are common and/or known:
a. a mostly smiting monk build
b. a mostly ranger build
c. a mostly warrior build
d. etc.
The point is, there is no reason why most "build logic" cannot be half-competently coded up.
emil knight
Timoz,
Basically what is occuring is that there are many people, like myself, who would love an oppotunity to go into into Tombs and just SEE what's inside. Yet, because of my rank, which is non-existant, and my build, which I don't want to COMPLETELY work over just to see what's inside the HoH, I'm not even asked to join a team.
I am playing just for fun, but I shouldn't be denied the chance of having fun because a bunch of elitists are only picking the "cool kids" for thier "kickball team." Reading a forums and looking over other peoples builds does NOT replace the "hands-on" experience of actually going inside and seeing the dynamic for yourself.
Personally I would love an opportunity to just hit a button and be grouped together with a bunch of people, just so I can go inside. I'm a smart enough person that if I get completely annihilated, I can change around my skill set a little at a time and give it another try. At least then I could decide if it was something I wanted to do again, be prepared, maybe get a build together so I can get together with an organized group.
It ends up being just like GvG... you can be told how it works, but until you actually do it, you have no idea what can actually occur during a match. A random feature could be a decent practice area for those who are interested in serious play.
IxChel, I like your idea of having certain skill sets in these groups... wouldn't be entirely random, but at least you could still jump in and get your feet wet. You'd get a nice cross section of skill sets and everyone would get a decent oppotunity to shine.
Basically what is occuring is that there are many people, like myself, who would love an oppotunity to go into into Tombs and just SEE what's inside. Yet, because of my rank, which is non-existant, and my build, which I don't want to COMPLETELY work over just to see what's inside the HoH, I'm not even asked to join a team.
I am playing just for fun, but I shouldn't be denied the chance of having fun because a bunch of elitists are only picking the "cool kids" for thier "kickball team." Reading a forums and looking over other peoples builds does NOT replace the "hands-on" experience of actually going inside and seeing the dynamic for yourself.
Personally I would love an opportunity to just hit a button and be grouped together with a bunch of people, just so I can go inside. I'm a smart enough person that if I get completely annihilated, I can change around my skill set a little at a time and give it another try. At least then I could decide if it was something I wanted to do again, be prepared, maybe get a build together so I can get together with an organized group.
It ends up being just like GvG... you can be told how it works, but until you actually do it, you have no idea what can actually occur during a match. A random feature could be a decent practice area for those who are interested in serious play.
IxChel, I like your idea of having certain skill sets in these groups... wouldn't be entirely random, but at least you could still jump in and get your feet wet. You'd get a nice cross section of skill sets and everyone would get a decent oppotunity to shine.
Kai Nui
Personally the idea of people doing it in PUGs by itself is pretty a bad idea (even though I do it myself) you really can't get far unless you're organized and in a guild.
emil knight
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Personally the idea of people doing it in PUGs by itself is pretty a bad idea (even though I do it myself) you really can't get far unless you're organized and in a guild.
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I've been in random groups that have been quickly slaughtered, and in other ones that have won a dozen times before being defeated.
wolfy3455
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Basically what is occuring is that there are many people, like myself, who would love an oppotunity to go into into Tombs and just SEE what's inside. Yet, because of my rank, which is non-existant, and my build, which I don't want to COMPLETELY work over just to see what's inside the HoH, I'm not even asked to join a team.
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Personally I would love an opportunity to just hit a button and be grouped together with a bunch of people, just so I can go inside. I'm a smart enough person that if I get completely annihilated, I can change around my skill set a little at a time and give it another try. At least then I could decide if it was something I wanted to do again, be prepared, maybe get a build together so I can get together with an organized group. It ends up being just like GvG... you can be told how it works, but until you actually do it, you have no idea what can actually occur during a match. A random feature could be a decent practice area for those who are interested in serious play. |
IxChel, your idea is terrible. Its a waste of programming time, and from your statements I can tell that either you mean something completely different from what I'm thinking or you don't know programming very well. The build sucks (a life transfer necro or degen mesmer as damage dealers? come on). What happens to the people that don't fit into the random build?
leoam
Moslty it looks like we are all making the assumption that PUG's will be bad teams for one reason or another, and I tend to agree. The way things usually go is that most of time in tombs is spent looking for a team. Once you get into a team, most people just leave after the first loss and go back to trying to find another team that might be better. All you end up doing is spending your time trying to search for a good team. For the casual player I don't really think this is any better than having random grouping. The time spent doing this can be very discouraging and I know several players that don't do tombs anymore because it's not fun to spend like 80% of the time putting a group together for 20% of gameplay.
I'm willing to bet that with some kind or party formation solution including the one I posted earlier, things would get alot better. If getting together becomes the easy part, I think players would probably stay with groups longer and the conversations would be about strategy and adjusting skills, and trying again instead of everybody just leaving the group and going back to spamming their tag lines again. It's so time consuming the way things are now that if you're mom/wife only lets you have 2 hours of game therapy a day, you aren't going to get that much actual gameplay to develop your skills.
I'm willing to bet that with some kind or party formation solution including the one I posted earlier, things would get alot better. If getting together becomes the easy part, I think players would probably stay with groups longer and the conversations would be about strategy and adjusting skills, and trying again instead of everybody just leaving the group and going back to spamming their tag lines again. It's so time consuming the way things are now that if you're mom/wife only lets you have 2 hours of game therapy a day, you aren't going to get that much actual gameplay to develop your skills.
Timoz
IXchel- you propose that hitting a random team button switches someones build completely to a preset build when as people have already mentioned here they would want to try out other bulds if this function was implemented... ummm.
Make your own groups ppl, advertise something like, Random group LF anyone who wants to join and have some tombing fun testing builds...
Theres no point in introducing this whole new function when all you have to do is type such a thing.
Judging by the early replies to the thread there are a few people feeling the same way, so why not give this a try??.. you dont have to organise just clikc a few buttons..
Failng that join a pvp guild.
after all its >GUILD WARS< you fight with your guild.. if they're not providing you with what you want and some fun pvp with it then why are you there?
Make your own groups ppl, advertise something like, Random group LF anyone who wants to join and have some tombing fun testing builds...
Theres no point in introducing this whole new function when all you have to do is type such a thing.
Judging by the early replies to the thread there are a few people feeling the same way, so why not give this a try??.. you dont have to organise just clikc a few buttons..
Failng that join a pvp guild.
after all its >GUILD WARS< you fight with your guild.. if they're not providing you with what you want and some fun pvp with it then why are you there?
emil knight
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You shouldn't complain you're not getting groups if you're unwilling to conform to a team build. If you don't have a team build, you're never going to see HoH unless its a really inactive time where youget there straight from unworthies. They aren't looking for "the cool kids", they just want people that fit their build. You already said you won't change for a group. Unless your comp has sound problems, TS and vent are easy to use, so that shouldn't be a problem.
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Team builders in the Tomb only want people that fit THEIR build, you are correct. So if I "don't conform" I don't get to play. I've actually seen people say "if you're below X rank, don't bother asking for an invite" That's elitism at it's worst. I'd like to play, and naturally I'd like a fair chance to win. I AM there for fun, but how fun would it be if I lose EVERY TIME? Also... what If I don't WANT to use a voice program? Maybe that's not my thing for whatever reason? So you're saying I should be FORCED to use one if I want to go into HoH? Ridiculous.
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Then request an 8 v 8 RT arena that moves up to tombs after a certain number of wins. Don't bore the rest of us in addition to scaring clueless new pvpers away through frustration. If you want to make a new build, test it part by part in TA or in unrated GvG. Actually, you can just test it in tombs and no one will care.
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IxChel, your idea is terrible. Its a waste of programming time, and from your statements I can tell that either you mean something completely different from what I'm thinking or you don't know programming very well. The build sucks (a life transfer necro or degen mesmer as damage dealers? come on). What happens to the people that don't fit into the random build?
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Failng that join a pvp guild. after all its >GUILD WARS< you fight with your guild.. if they're not providing you with what you want and some fun pvp with it then why are you there?
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Your "start a random group" idea is pretty good... but wouldn't it be the same if we just had a button for that? Then we wouldn't have to spam "LFG PEOPLE FOR A RANDOM GROUP, INVITE YOURSELF!"
telarin
/signed
they can implement it simillar to the random arenas where random teams first fight with other random teams in the normal tombs map and after 10 wins get into matches with organised teams and go for HoH.
they can implement it by introducing another district in the tombs where it's random only.
they can implement it simillar to the random arenas where random teams first fight with other random teams in the normal tombs map and after 10 wins get into matches with organised teams and go for HoH.
they can implement it by introducing another district in the tombs where it's random only.
neoteo
voice program is almost minimum requirement to win the hoh
i never won the hoh , i was there one time with a very good voice team , and we lose the first match ... ( korea was there )
they sould implemente TS or VENT in the game , we could still provide servers , but im sure buying the code from TS or VENT and put it in the game is not much work or money ...
and would be much easyer for Not Advenced computer users , to start using it
i mean , for some people downloading a program and install it, can be a nightmare
i never won the hoh , i was there one time with a very good voice team , and we lose the first match ... ( korea was there )
they sould implemente TS or VENT in the game , we could still provide servers , but im sure buying the code from TS or VENT and put it in the game is not much work or money ...
and would be much easyer for Not Advenced computer users , to start using it
i mean , for some people downloading a program and install it, can be a nightmare
Forboding Angel
We aren't talking about random pugs winning the hoh here. We are talking about just being able to hit a button and play.
WHY THE HELL IS EVERYONE SO OPPOSED TO THIS?
Christ, If you don't like it then just look at it as free fame and faction. You can play tombs and clean house on faction. Unless the pug beats your guild. Now wouldn't that be embarrassing? HMMMM?
I apologize for being so melodramatic
WHY THE HELL IS EVERYONE SO OPPOSED TO THIS?
Christ, If you don't like it then just look at it as free fame and faction. You can play tombs and clean house on faction. Unless the pug beats your guild. Now wouldn't that be embarrassing? HMMMM?
I apologize for being so melodramatic
Timoz
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Actually I'm a guild leader... not all of my guild is on all the time, because it's a guild made up mostly of my friends. Also I don't expect anyone in my guild to do PvP if they don't want to, and not all of them do. Sometimes I just go do PvP alone.
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You said you want to win otherwise you don't like it?.. you don't win through constantly joining random teams and you would not win garunteed if this function were introduced if you came up against a half decent team.
Even if there was an elimination kinda thing and teams only go in after beating other random teams.. they would again get beatne by a half decent team.
I just don't want rank to seem worthless and fame to be so easy to get as well as the tomb getting clogged up.
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voice program is almost minimum requirement to win the hoh
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Firstly, why are you afraid of korea? most koreans suck...
Secondly, how can you say that voice is the minimum requirement to win the hoh if you havent won the hoh. I'd put money on it the koreans who beat you were using voice. Everyone i know who wins the hoh uses voice communication.
I've not won the hoh without voice communication and i've won it plenty of times. >sticking to topic< random groups wouldnt get anywhere in tombs and therefore its useless implementing this.
However, i'd fully agree bringing in a similar function as long as it doesn't coincide with the tombs.
emil knight
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If your the leader, then its your duty, along with your friends and officers to change the guild and shape it as you want.
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You said you want to win otherwise you don't like it?.. you don't win through constantly joining random teams and you would not win garunteed if this function were introduced if you came up against a half decent team.
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Even if there was an elimination kinda thing and teams only go in after beating other random teams.. they would again get beatne by a half decent team.
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I just don't want rank to seem worthless and fame to be so easy to get as well as the tomb getting clogged up.
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Secondly, how can you say that voice is the minimum requirement to win the hoh if you havent won the hoh. I'd put money on it the koreans who beat you were using voice. Everyone i know who wins the hoh uses voice communication.
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However, i'd fully agree bringing in a similar function as long as it doesn't coincide with the tombs.
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THEIvo
HOH and 8v8 shouldn't be mixed. What we need is a new arena.
emil knight
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HOH and 8v8 shouldn't be mixed. What we need is a new arena.
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I'm sure with a little thought, ANet could accomplish this.
Fr3sH
/signed
Here are a few good ideas though:
1) Remove the unworthy ghosts on the stairs for tombs.
2) When players enter randomly, they must wait untill 48 players have queued up to enter randomly.
3) Place the 48 players into 6 teams of 8, in the traditional burial mounds map.
4) The victorious team goes on to the underworld, where they begin to face the organized teams.
Here are a few good ideas though:
1) Remove the unworthy ghosts on the stairs for tombs.
2) When players enter randomly, they must wait untill 48 players have queued up to enter randomly.
3) Place the 48 players into 6 teams of 8, in the traditional burial mounds map.
4) The victorious team goes on to the underworld, where they begin to face the organized teams.
Weazzol
/signed
I too hate waiting, period. Especially when just trying to play a quick few rounds of PVP when I don't have much time to play anyway.
I too hate waiting, period. Especially when just trying to play a quick few rounds of PVP when I don't have much time to play anyway.
Willow
This could be fun- and let me in a game earlier.
The way I would implement it is HoH PuGs do the NPC fight, and then a fight against another random group- and the winner is seeded into the HoH tournament. Basically you have to win against another PuG, then you get to fight anyone. (This will cut out quite a bit of the chaff- actually the first round against NPCs will, but it gives the random groups a chance to go for the hall too.)
The way I would implement it is HoH PuGs do the NPC fight, and then a fight against another random group- and the winner is seeded into the HoH tournament. Basically you have to win against another PuG, then you get to fight anyone. (This will cut out quite a bit of the chaff- actually the first round against NPCs will, but it gives the random groups a chance to go for the hall too.)
Master Oria
You know, i just got to say, i really like the idea, half the time i got in with my guild so its fine and easy to get a group. But sometimes I'm just by myself and the only way i can find a group under 10 minutes is by playing my monk. And well i'm sick and bored of playing him. i would preffer play my mesmer or my warrior, but then i cant get a freaken group. So yeah, random button would make that more possible to actualy get to play more then just 1 battle once an hour
Venus
/Signed
blane
/Signed
I've never played hoh before and wanna try it out. If this idea is implemented, I can gain some experience and learn how to play without being flamed by elistists or getting my guild group into trouble.
I've never played hoh before and wanna try it out. If this idea is implemented, I can gain some experience and learn how to play without being flamed by elistists or getting my guild group into trouble.
koren
/signed
Sure randomly formed teams will get owned most of the time but the point of this is for casual gamers to be able to get into some 8v8 action.
Also, once this is implemented if someone drops out of an already existing group, the missing player can be replaced with someone waiting in line instead of a henchman just like in team arenas.
Sure randomly formed teams will get owned most of the time but the point of this is for casual gamers to be able to get into some 8v8 action.
Also, once this is implemented if someone drops out of an already existing group, the missing player can be replaced with someone waiting in line instead of a henchman just like in team arenas.
Timoz
...it would just give away so much freakin free fame, pointless.. its never gonna happen unless another arena is made.
leoam
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...it would just give away so much freakin free fame, pointless.. its never gonna happen unless another arena is made.
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Hellza Poppin
/signed
Been lurking for a long time and just wanted to add my voice to the list of people who don't play HoH gametype and think it's a crying shame that I can't try it out without 1hr of supplication across multiple districts for 10mins of getting 0wned. I agree with previous opinions that you're never going to learn the strats until you get in there and experience it, and it just hasn't been convenient for me to join a guild that actually has enough serious people that are on all the time for a consistent organized experience.
I enjoy many online FPS where you can just jump into a game immediately - the random arena is perfect for me, only it's limited to deathmatch, 4 people and what, 5 maps? In fact, the elitists can keep the HoH and their rank if they just give me more gametypes, maps and group size options in the random arena. And a cross-district group browser would be nice too...
I've always anticipated a game that combines a persistent personalized playing experience (character customization a la MMORPGs) with the 'jump on a server with endless variety of PvP maps and game types' FPS schools of gaming... this is the closest it's come, but if they want me to keep coming back to this game over the next few years instead of moving on to other games, they have to add more casual PvP options in Chapter 2.
Been lurking for a long time and just wanted to add my voice to the list of people who don't play HoH gametype and think it's a crying shame that I can't try it out without 1hr of supplication across multiple districts for 10mins of getting 0wned. I agree with previous opinions that you're never going to learn the strats until you get in there and experience it, and it just hasn't been convenient for me to join a guild that actually has enough serious people that are on all the time for a consistent organized experience.
I enjoy many online FPS where you can just jump into a game immediately - the random arena is perfect for me, only it's limited to deathmatch, 4 people and what, 5 maps? In fact, the elitists can keep the HoH and their rank if they just give me more gametypes, maps and group size options in the random arena. And a cross-district group browser would be nice too...
I've always anticipated a game that combines a persistent personalized playing experience (character customization a la MMORPGs) with the 'jump on a server with endless variety of PvP maps and game types' FPS schools of gaming... this is the closest it's come, but if they want me to keep coming back to this game over the next few years instead of moving on to other games, they have to add more casual PvP options in Chapter 2.
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Tombs are hard for a reason. It's hard to find groups for a reason. The reason is that it is about skill. It's about map control. It's about timing. And it's about experience. And--no offense to any new player--I really don't want a newbie Monk casting Healing Breeze on me when I have -10 degen and 8 hexes. Everyone has to learn, I will admit. Tombs is a place for experienced players, though. And experienced players demand an experienced team.
Let's not talk about FotM because that would screw my argument.
Let's not talk about FotM because that would screw my argument.