The I-LIKE-Guild-Wars Thread

catharsis

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2005

So having lurked and posted around these boards for a while, I have to seriously hand it to A.Net and the development team. They've made a game that's a lot of fun, and they make constant steps to support and improve it...


... and ALL the community does is BITCH.

They whine about farming. They whine about NOT farming. They whine about game balance, about the economy, about cutscenes not being skippable ENOUGH.


Well, I LIKE GW. It's addictive, it's pretty, it's balanced, it's well-supported, the art design is spectacular. I could go on, but I won't. I know I'm not alone, but it's hard to tell from these forums.


A.Net, hats off to you. People having fun, hats off to you. Whiny eleven-year olds making noise because you feel like you're entitled to this, that and the other thing? Learn to program, and make your own game.

MSecorsky

MSecorsky

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2005

So Cal

The Sinister Vanguard

Me/

/signed

Cheers for a wonderfully balanced game.

Aniewiel

Aniewiel

Smite Mistress

Join Date: Jun 2005

The Land of AZ, USA

Rt/E

Amen, Catharsis. You're preaching to the choir with me and, while there are some very minor issues that annoy me, all in all, I have gotten more "bang for my buck" with GW than with any game since D2 came out.

Thanks Anet for a great game that promises a greater future.

generik

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2005

Good on you, let's see how long you can stay addicted. Nice that you let us know your opinion, however like assholes everyone has one of their own, KTHXBAI!

duverga

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2005

It's normal. Game forums always have more complaints than compliments, presumably because those who actually like the game are playing it rather than complaining about it.

Nizzim

Nizzim

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2005

Woot Loops

E/N

wow, are we having some gay forum battle?

People are aloud to bash games, its their rights as people to not enjoy certain things about certain things.

If you dont like that, you dont have to make a thread opposing the people that feel the need to pick apart things.


I love GW I think it's awesome and I played it to no end, but I can still point out the bad in it. Cuz it does have bad.

Nothings perfect, but I respect Anet for a good debut style game such as this.

Dispeyr

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Jul 2005

Ninja Tiger Sharks [NTS]

Mo/W

I fourth this. I haven't actually had a single complaint since I started playing a few months ago, and I'm still enjoying the game. In fact, I even booted my wife off my account onto her own just to have the spare character slots. =P

Nightsorrow

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2005

Servants of Fortuna

N/

/signed

I recently got frustrated that I couldn't farm with my W/Mo - then realised. This is GW, just about anything can beat anything. Coming from a D2 background where Necro's couldn't pvp, Barbarians couldn't kill Sorceresses, etc - into GW where the build complexity (and indeed flexibility, god bless refund points), I have to remind myself not to lose sight of what a great game this actually is

Sereng Amaranth

Sereng Amaranth

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2005

The Amazon Basin [AB]

Well it sort of comes with the territory. Anet has set the precedent of giving us what we request. Well the good stuff anyway, no ninjas. And that's fine, we appreciate the symbiotic bond with our Doctor Feelgood of gaming.

But the saying goes, give them an inch and they want a mile. So everyone sees that Anet listens to the community and actually delivers. Then they want UAS, UAX, horses, and any other stupid ideas that don't mesh with what Guild Wars is about.

Its a control issue really.
13-yr old kid sees that an idea he agrees with was implemented.
13-yr old gets a taste of power over the gaming company.
13-yr old decides he has a voice, which is not a bad thing.
13-yr old starts to request throwing stars, elves and monkies.
13-yr old gets frustrated when his relatively shallow requests aren't met.
13-yr old trashes Anet and Guild Wars and reverts back to WoW.

Aniewiel

Aniewiel

Smite Mistress

Join Date: Jun 2005

The Land of AZ, USA

Rt/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by generik
Good on you, let's see how long you can stay addicted. Nice that you let us know your opinion, however like assholes everyone has one of their own, KTHXBAI!
This was VERY rude and highly uncalled for. What a terrible attitude and a generally rotten thing to say.

If some would like to start a thread about their appreciation for the game, why is it necessary to say something so VERY out of line.

You, sir, should apologize for your behavior.

Spartan2

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2005

The Intarweb

Wrath of Nature [WoN]

E/Mo

Great to see a Kudos thread every so often. Great to have all these nifty features added to a game that could have been called complete at launch. Keep up the good work ArenaNet! You deserve the praise for all the hard work you have put into this game.

NightStalkerXT

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Aniewiel
Amen, Catharsis.... while there are some very minor issues that annoy me, all in all, I have gotten more "bang for my buck" with GW than with any game since D2 came out.

Thanks Anet for a great game that promises a greater future.
I second that! This is a great game and I plan on playing it for quite some time! A-Net can count on me buying the new chapters

Dan Mega

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2005

Chicago

R/N

I agree, besides the issues I have with drops and afk players during missions, its a GREAT game.

There is nothing better than leaving your character to dance in Lion's Arch while you leave for work and won't be back 10 hours later

EtrnalXellotath

EtrnalXellotath

Academy Page

Join Date: Jul 2005

Massachusetts

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan Mega
I agree, besides the issues I have with drops and afk players during missions, its a GREAT game.

There is nothing better than leaving your character to dance in Lion's Arch while you leave for work and won't be back 10 hours later


Wow, your character must have alot of stamina!!

Masked Killah

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jul 2005

Killahs United

R/E

I agree with what catharsis said. These is a great game and no one will tell me otherwise. If u dont like it your loss too bad!

Lasareth

Lasareth

Aquarius

Join Date: Jun 2005

Somewhere between Boardwalk and Park Place

I like Guild Wars.

BladeX3I

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2005

Searching... PM me with a good one

R/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by catharsis
... and ALL the community does is BITCH.

They whine about farming. They whine about NOT farming. They whine about game balance, about the economy, about cutscenes not being skippable ENOUGH.
You did the same thing in your own thread. Whining about people whining

Thanks for more negativity.

StandardAI

StandardAI

Banned

Join Date: Mar 2005

K A R M A

Notice how no one is flaming these guys, But the second an I dislike guildwars thread is made they're all sure to fill it with flames/arguments.

Nizzim

Nizzim

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2005

Woot Loops

E/N

no one makes an I dont like guild wars thread. Jeez.

They make threads about things they dont like in the game, which is normal, deal with it.


People act like they need to defend this game as if it were their young, its gross

Sir Skullcrasher

Sir Skullcrasher

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2005

California

15 over 50 [Rare]

W/Mo

put me on the list!

i like guild wars too, it much better than anything i played so far

Ninna

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2005

Northeast USA

Guilded Rose

Me/

this is a fan-site afterall

Aniewiel

Aniewiel

Smite Mistress

Join Date: Jun 2005

The Land of AZ, USA

Rt/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ninna
this is a fan-site afterall
Ooooo! Good one!

Kamatsu

Kamatsu

Moderator

Join Date: May 2005

Australia

Quote:
Originally Posted by Aniewiel
I have gotten more "bang for my buck" with GW than with any game since D2 came out.
Heh, I must say GW so far is 4th on my list for "best bang for my buck". Simply because over the years I've spent more hours playing 2 or 3 other games (iirc 1 game is up to like 6,000 hours or so.. heh). Heh, but I still like GW and it's definately been worth my money.

As for the whining and complaining.. thats a normal part of any game really. It's because everyone has their own pre-conceptions and idea's about whats fun and what they want and expect out of a game. And when it doesn't deliver exactly what they want ot expected, they will complain and whine about it. It's also because people find different things fun, so will whine and complain if those things get nerfed.. or just whine and complain because they want more attention focused on what they want in/from the game.

You look at the whine/complain posts and threads and you'll see exactly what I'm saying. Take for example the farming issue - the farmers are defending it and agry over the nerfing.. why? because it impacts on their fun and what they were doing. On the other hand the anti-farmer's were pleased because it stopped something that they felt impacted on their fun factor in the game. Two sides to an issue, both defending their right to have "fun" in the game the way they want to have fun.

But back to the topic at hand. Yep, GW is a very nice game and I'm enjoying playing it a lot. Yes there are aspects of the game I dislike and wish got fixed, but you won't see me whining and complaining about it.. I'll just deal with it. hehehehe.

stumpy

stumpy

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2005

Canucklehead BC, Canada

Advanced Necro Undead Society

*jumps aboard the I love guildwars fan club train*

(waves I love guildwars happy stick)

wearing the I love my *#$%@ T-Shirt which says

"go red engine go red engine go red ending go play gw go redengine go red engine go!"

p.s ty Anet

Forscience

Forscience

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2005

Supreme Beings of Leisure

W/Mo

Guild Wars is fun! Other games are not fun. Play Guild wars!

/signed

I love everything about this game (except maybe the icon for "contemplation of purity") but I can deal.

Thanks a ton A-Net for taking a risk and making an amazing and groundbreaking game!

firstwave

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by catharsis
Well, I LIKE GW. It's addictive, it's pretty, it's balanced, it's well-supported, the art design is spectacular. I could go on, but I won't. I know I'm not alone, but it's hard to tell from these forums.
So true! Many people whine about how the game's economy sucks. Well don't play the game then. I love the game because it has beautiful landscapes, great artworks and so many different skills. There are about 100 skills for every character, but you can only have 8 skills at once. There are infinite amount of skill combinations and endless possibilities.

Everyone complains about the nerfs ANet made to farm spots. However, I disagree. ANet updates Guildwars very frequently and that means the people of ANet cares about this game, unlike Diablo 2, which is filled with dupes and hacks. ANet made this game exploit-free and it constantly bring us new things like faction points.

Hats off to ANet!

Borak Bloodbane

Academy Page

Join Date: Jul 2005

Toledo, Ohio

Knights Who Say Nee

W/Mo

Yes yes yes!!!! Finally someone uses the forums to praise the game instead of bash it. Forums are almost always used to bash the game. Thousands of people each day come into here to bitch and complain about the game and threaten to stop playing it lol. Deep down inside that person will keep playing the game anywayz cuz they think it is fun. And if they dont? who cares cuz there are new people playing every day.

StandardAI

StandardAI

Banned

Join Date: Mar 2005

K A R M A

Quote:
Originally Posted by Borak Bloodbane
Yes yes yes!!!! Finally someone uses the forums to praise the game instead of bash it.
I can link you to a ton of threads just like this one.

Borak Bloodbane

Academy Page

Join Date: Jul 2005

Toledo, Ohio

Knights Who Say Nee

W/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by kamatsu
Heh, I must say GW so far is 4th on my list for "best bang for my buck". Simply because over the years I've spent more hours playing 2 or 3 other games (iirc 1 game is up to like 6,000 hours or so.. heh). Heh, but I still like GW and it's definately been worth my money.

As for the whining and complaining.. thats a normal part of any game really. It's because everyone has their own pre-conceptions and idea's about whats fun and what they want and expect out of a game. And when it doesn't deliver exactly what they want ot expected, they will complain and whine about it. It's also because people find different things fun, so will whine and complain if those things get nerfed.. or just whine and complain because they want more attention focused on what they want in/from the game.

You look at the whine/complain posts and threads and you'll see exactly what I'm saying. Take for example the farming issue - the farmers are defending it and agry over the nerfing.. why? because it impacts on their fun and what they were doing. On the other hand the anti-farmer's were pleased because it stopped something that they felt impacted on their fun factor in the game. Two sides to an issue, both defending their right to have "fun" in the game the way they want to have fun.

But back to the topic at hand. Yep, GW is a very nice game and I'm enjoying playing it a lot. Yes there are aspects of the game I dislike and wish got fixed, but you won't see me whining and complaining about it.. I'll just deal with it. hehehehe.
Nicely said. I enjoy reading a post that shows both sides to an argument instead of narrow minded one sided views

Aniewiel

Aniewiel

Smite Mistress

Join Date: Jun 2005

The Land of AZ, USA

Rt/E

I am not necessarily without concerns when it comes to GW. I try to look at the overall picture and wonder to myself, "Am I having fun? Will I play today? Will I play tomorrow?" If any or all of those are answered with a "yes" then I am happy with a game.

Are there some things that need to be fixed? Absolutely. Are they game busters for me? No. I have faith that ANet will continue to grow and learn as they slog through this game's development. Only better and better things can come from it.

And, StandardAI: Usually you are a great poster with insightful thoughts. What's the deal tonight? Let people have a good time expressing their happiness with GW.

StandardAI

StandardAI

Banned

Join Date: Mar 2005

K A R M A

Quote:
Originally Posted by Borak Bloodbane
Im sure you can as you probably sit on the forums all day long w/ nothing else in your life to do since you took the time to post that pointless response to what i said.
Judging from my 1.56 posts per day and your 4.24 posts per day, Yes, I sit on the forum all day. How did you know?

Nizzim

Nizzim

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2005

Woot Loops

E/N

well apparently youre lonely enough to compare youre post count to his by taking the time to click his profile and inspect it then compare it to yours.

sigh

StandardAI

StandardAI

Banned

Join Date: Mar 2005

K A R M A

Quote:
Originally Posted by Nizzim
well apparently youre lonely enough to compare youre post count to his by taking the time to click his profile and inspect it then compare it to yours.

sigh
Yes, me spending an extra five seconds to prove a point would indeed have a direct correlation with how lonely I am, you're a very smart person.

Nizzim

Nizzim

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2005

Woot Loops

E/N

why thank you. I admire youre compliment

Ultimate_Gaara

Ultimate_Gaara

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2005

BC, Canada.. how aboot that eh?

as my brother would say "Guild Wars is the sex"... i bow to you Anet /bow, you have made my life complete

Borak Bloodbane

Academy Page

Join Date: Jul 2005

Toledo, Ohio

Knights Who Say Nee

W/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by StandardAI
Judging from my 1.56 posts per day and your 4.24 posts per day, Yes, I sit on the forum all day. How did you know?
Hmmm that is funny cuz the last few days has been the only time that i have been on the forums if you would like to look at my profile some more and see my join date. If you would like to know why i am spending time in the forums for the past week it is because i am away from home for a few weeks on an outdated army computer that cant play GW to save its life, so that is why i am posting so much lately. Thanks for the stats on my posts, when i get home i will be sure to do something useful w/ time such as play GW instead of searching forums and flaming all day

Sanji

Sanji

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2005

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Aniewiel
This was VERY rude and highly uncalled for. What a terrible attitude and a generally rotten thing to say.

If some would like to start a thread about their appreciation for the game, why is it necessary to say something so VERY out of line.

You, sir, should apologize for your behavior.
Both sides are rude if you ask me and it this will continue as long as both sides feel justified in doing so.

Catharsis could have very easily made this "appreciation thread" without including inflammatory jabs in his original post such as this.

Quote:
Originally Posted by catharsis
... and ALL the community does is BITCH.

They whine about farming. They whine about NOT farming. They whine about game balance, about the economy, about cutscenes not being skippable ENOUGH.

Whiny eleven-year olds making noise because you feel like you're entitled to this, that and the other thing? Learn to program, and make your own game.

Aniewiel

Aniewiel

Smite Mistress

Join Date: Jun 2005

The Land of AZ, USA

Rt/E

THREAD HIJACK!

How 'bout you guys take this to PMs?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sanji
Both sides are rude if you ask me, and it will continue to prevail as long as both sides feel justified in doing so.

Catharsis could have very easily made this "appreciation thread" without including inflammatory jabs in his original post such as this.
I agree but my mother told me that "two wrongs don't make a right", an axiom that a few people around here could stand to ponder.

Nizzim

Nizzim

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2005

Woot Loops

E/N

two wrongs make a SUPER WRONG!!!!!1!11!!!1!!

OH NOEEEESS

Midnight Slayer

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2005

Guild Wars is a good game. Some aspects of Guild Wars can be improved. Both sides have their own opinions on the matter. Do I care? No. Should I care? No. Do I expect anyone to care about my opinions? No. Everyone is an entitled to an opinion just like everyone is entitled to either agree or disagree with it. Do all the wiseass remarks and flames prove a point? Hmmm. Not really.