What's the point? It's all WTS WTS WTS!

I just spent two weeks collecting as many 15-28 bows as i could find and fitting them with the best upgrades that i could get my hands on.

I set out many hours ago, with the intention of selling these bows (16 bows in total). I don't "need" the money, i just want to get rid of them for a fair price for the time i have spent on them.

Selling them is easy right? Wrong! Wherever i go, nobody seems interested.

After reading so many threads regarding the trading system and how it sucks, i must now agree.

Something seriously needs to be done to overhaul the trade system. Someone somewhere wants my bows. The top players probably won't buy them because they aren't >50% and the newer players won't buy them because they are too busy tryng to sell 3 iron ingots so they can afford their first set of armour.

Lions arch is a joke. I couldn't even see my own trade message in that sea of crap.

Does anybody have a clue with regard to the trade system? I mean does anyone have inside knowledge about ArenaNets plans for the future for the trade system?
Have they spoken of it or do they see no problem with it?

I can either leave my character full of these bows and hope for an auction system or i can make the merchant think Christmas has come early!

I'm on the verge of turning the trade channel off forever.

it IS terrible isnt it!

unfortunately I am not an insider. and even more unfortuntate is the amount of programming and reprogramming required to change a chat channel into a full fledged trading system.

because thats all it is, a chat channel, its no different to the ALL channel (other than color). I mean, what WAS Anet thinking? surely they would have foreseen that traders would end up gathering in one place, and knowing the maximum numbers of players in one area, SURELY they would have realised the little scrolling text would become a mess.

but, obviously not, because there it is, a chat channel being passed of a trading system.

its also something I cant see them changing any time soon at all (chapter 2 perhaps? there going to get paid for that one)

Turn it off, give items to guild members or new players, vendor the rest, save those 2 Valium for the weekend.

well i can only find one reason to your problem, people get so annoyed by all the people spamming WTS everywhere they turn off all the chat.. which leaves poor you with very little people to hear what you have to offer... and even if you do have someone reading the trade section it will be gone with in seconds to other waves of "WTS TEH BEsT SWORD U HAV EVR SEEB!!1N" "OMG FDS 13-22 rare!" and other such deals.. it is the sad truth that LA is one of the nices looking places, with the worst comunity of all time

have you concidered advertizing in the sell forums or in other outposts?

I agree. The trading in guild wars can be very tedious. I would say since you have a wack load of bows your best bet is to type out something like "WTS - TONS OF GOOD BOWS... come to storage to see.". I did that with hammers seemed to work pretty well, got rid of 3 of my 7 in about 10-15 minutes.

Post it, wait for like 20 seconds, then move to the next district. I hate districts 1 & 2 of AC and LA, way too much stuff going on in the trade window. I have much more luck in the districts above that.

None-the-less, trading is somewhat tedious. It takes a while sometimes. You just have to hope you find a spot where someone is actually looking for something you are selling. Or watch for people saying WTB that's a lot quicker too.

ANet really need to make up a better trading system. Like a general spot where you can list what you want to sell and the price. And everyone can go to it and search for what they are looking for and buy the cheapest one they find that suits them.

I'm not sure the trade forum would be worth my time ultimate. My bows are mostly while hexed or <50%. I do have a nice 4:1 vampiric halfmoon but oh well...to the merchant i go.
At least he buys stuff.

this would help more than just trading, it would FORCE price wars between players. before selling you would search on same items, and price the same/cheaper than the others. bye bye rediculous prices

for gods sake ANET, IMPLEMENT THIS TYPE OF TRADE SYSTEM

Exactly paladin. Don't they read these posts?

If they have it planned...great. If not...why not?

I have no problem selling anything.

What I usually do is try to only sell 4-5 things at once.

I go to Ascalon (Lions Arch is too filled and no one buys there)
I jsut keep switching districts in Ascalon and doing a WTS while I am looking for WTB post.

I can usually sell 12 things within an hour (Of course that a lot of time to sell 12 things)

I have been able to but low and sell high and make over 400k so far.

Sorena Mascar

Suggestion: allow a Market area where interested parties meet.

At the moment, although you are same area in game, you are only on 1 server. I play odd hours, so when I was on, there isn't much going on. But I don't want people to flood the local channel with sell messages either.

Best would be allowing sellers to setup stalls and show their wares without having to say "WTS" this and that. Of course, you could still do the solicitation, but it would be like in the market. The stalls would be visible to all servers. I realize it is impossible to do, but that's the best.

Second best would be having a Market District. People want to sell something, go there. People want to buy something, go there. People don't want to be bothered, play it somewhere else. The Market would be like International District, so that I could buy rare items from American players too.

Then we could have sellers put up their asking price too. I found it ridiculous that people said WTS, and I asked how much the asking price, they didn't want to tell. Then I offered a price, they get offended. Sellers must state your price, or at least price range.

I think they know that this is what we want, I mean this is about the 100th time I've read a trade-system related thread, I think the problem is that its such a HUGE job.

if they have it in the works, I'd say it'd be apart of the next chapter, and they have said nothing because it would piss people off to know that they have to wait for like 1 year before it becomes apart of the game.

I'd really like to see some fan-site-friday people grow some balls and ask decent questions, you know, questions that we players REALLY want to get answered.
but of course 90% of the answers in said Fan-site-fridays dodge the topic almost entirely. I get the distint feeling I'm reading statements from polititians when I read the answers in those (I dont know about the rest of the world, but here in australia the polititians can give an answer over half an hour and not touch the topic at hand!)

I'd be interested depending on the price (read: if I have enough cash)

The trading system could be cleaned up alot with little work if the community designated certain districts for certain purposes.

Ie:
Lions Arch District 5 is for people selling Bows and Bow related items.
Lions Arch District 4 is for people selling Axes and axe upgrades.

If we had a defined district for each type of weaponry it would make the trade system much more useful. Then if you wanted to sell bows or bow related items you know to go to LA dist 5. If you wanted to buy an axe you know to go to LA dist 4. I'm sure there would be a lot of WTS still ripping through the trade window but at least its all relative to what you are actually looking for.

**cough Auction House

thats a good method that doesnt involve "the man".

now if only it were possible to have this sortof thing passed on to all players...

I swear the later it gets, the wierder my posts are getting

I beleave another online game called ROSE-online lets you do this, so hopefully it is not to hard to implement and Anet, will add this feature to Guild wars

What's wrong with trading your wares on tactful, compact websites like this one? Guarrenteed better results.

People who need your bows cannot afford them. My characters are struggling to earn enough gold to keep themselves in I.D. and Salvage kits. With more than 100 hours of playtime, my entire GW bank account is about 12p. Spread between three characters.

I agree that trying to sell items is a tedious exercise in frustration, and think an auction house or merchant area might be helpful. But the bottom line is that the early "rich" players already have all the stuff they could ever want, along with hundreds of thousands of platinum in the bank, and the post-patch folks who would drool over any max dmg bow haven't got two gp's to rub together. All the auctions in the world won't help if there isn't enough cash spread around the community so that people can afford to buy.

Just my happy little thoughts on the matter!

I'd say you havent played ROSE, as AWE inspiring as the stalls-to-the-horizon was, it was lagged the crap out of the game.

in ROSE, upon finishing the newbie area, and entering the real world, you greated with a sea of speach bubbles, as you move off the platform you realise those speach bubbles are actually above litle stalls.
even turning off the auto-speech-bubble-thingy didnt help much, because you still had a see of stalls as far as you could see.

that, and 90% of them were people who had the game running in the background while they did other things.

the trade itself still needs to be as it is, but the advertisement needs to be server wide. searchable. and your trade only stays available while your online.
if you DO go afk, and someone messages you about your trade, there going to move on if you dont reply. so AFK sellers wouldnt do to well.

thats the one thing I like about the system in this game, you KNOW the person is there, because they cant sell something without being there.

The selling system is soo bad i just usually junk everything to the merchant or ask around in my guild if anyone wants them without charge. it's just not worth my while and since i dont' have any interest in the 15K armor, running out of money isn't much of a problem at all. I mainly use items that i find on quests which is much cheaper and pretty damn good already.