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Loviatar

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Feb 2005

28 Jul 2005 at 15:10 - 81

Quote:

Originally Posted by primal98

Really angry over no updates o.O Perhaps from now on they should just release updates like this:

Update:
Added an extra comma.

This way no one would complain :P

~prime

actually updated are usually to fix things

the lack of an update probably means they are spent the time trying to fix the eu mess instead of adding some other little touch.

as soon as eu problem is fixed hopefully we will get into the habit of NOT having a weekly update so when one happens it will be a special treat

Fye Duron

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2005

Chico, CA, USA

Dragon Fang

28 Jul 2005 at 15:14 - 82

There has been a minor update at least in the area outside the hot springs, There is now a monk boss there. Also there is a really good reason no weekly update, The new area will be released next week more then likely, maybe the week after, but still it is on its way!

Loviatar

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Feb 2005

28 Jul 2005 at 15:18 - 83

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fye Duron

There has been a minor update at least in the area outside the hot springs, There is now a monk boss there. Also there is a really good reason no weekly update, The new area will be released next week more then likely, maybe the week after, but still it is on its way!

figure at least 2 weeks maybe 3 because Gaile said recently *in a few weeks* for the new areas

DrSLUGFly

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2005

European Server or International

28 Jul 2005 at 15:21 - 84

Quote:

Originally Posted by Loviatar

NOBODY READS THEM BECAUSE OF THE BIG ANNOUNCEMENT THAT /BUG WAS BEING STOPPED AND GIVING DETAILS OF HOW TO SEND IN A BUG REPORT THE NEW WAY

for real? Where can I read such an announcement? I seem to have missed it? (apologies if you're taking the piss)

Loviatar

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Feb 2005

28 Jul 2005 at 15:27 - 85

Quote:

Originally Posted by DrSLUGFly

for real? Where can I read such an announcement? I seem to have missed it? (apologies if you're taking the piss)

really

will try to dig it up in a bit
honestly no kidding

and here it is from Gaile

Quote:

If you are wondering if we will continue to have the Official Bugs Threads, now that the game is live, well, no, we won't. There is still a way to report bug, glitches and even exploits and cheats, and it's as close as www.guildwars.com. Simply click the Support button on the site, and submit a "ticket" through our Knowledge Base. The search engine will give you a few suggested responses, but if none of them fit, go ahead and "Ask a Question" and our Support Team will get the report right away and tend to it as soon as possible. We have people working round the clock to help out with problems, and of course we're always doing our best to answer your questions. Don't forget our Online Manual, www.guildwars.com/manual, and use the Knowledge Base for questions and reports.

DrSLUGFly

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2005

European Server or International

28 Jul 2005 at 15:35 - 86

nice thank you... I'm a bit depressed to know that my minor albeit worthy reports have all been for naught, but I feel good knowing that I can now make a productive effort to assist the team

noblepaladin

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2005

28 Jul 2005 at 15:38 - 87

After ANet did a great job by providing weekly updates, I think many people have come to expect it and act like "wtf, the service is declining" when they don't get it. Most likely the Devs are working hard on the new maps since that is one of their big priorities. Unfortunately, it seems like the Euro lag is probably hardware related, because if it's software then America and Korea would be having problems too since I assume the software is basically identical. So that takes to locate the problem and fix, the programmers at ANet can't simply change some code and fix it.

Algren Cole

Banned

Join Date: Jun 2005

28 Jul 2005 at 15:44 - 88

I'm not quite sure what people are expecting...do they want an update just for the sake of updating...if there's nothing to change/improve then why would they update the game? Is their something you wanted to see in the last two weeks and haven't? What are you hoping for? What are you expecting? We ALL KNOW(and if you don't you're a moron) that the expansion pack isn't coming out until mid August...so what are they supposed to be updating?

Shamblemonkee

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2005

UK, Bristol

Gwen's Red Capes [Gwen]

Mo/R

28 Jul 2005 at 15:53 - 89

Hopefully a clue. Because some people are seriously lacking one

I fully agree with Algren.

Gaile Gray

ArenaNet

Join Date: Feb 2005

28 Jul 2005 at 15:55 - 90

Just to confirm:

Quote:

Originally Posted by BrokenSymmetry

Guild Wars downloads information incrementally on a fine-grained level. So it happens that you may download data from an update a month ago only now, when you need it for the first time. In PvP it may even be the armor designs of your oppenents, in PvE the data for a boss that only spawns now and then, etc. All these things are only downloaded when you need them in the game, not immediately after a update.

Thank you, that is exactly what I was going to say. If you've never seen someone with red dye usage, or a certain type of boots, or a weapon, you need to draw those assets. You get "predictive" downloads, but sometimes we cannot predict what you'll see, and we'll download at the next opportunity.

If anyone has seen a "white box" in the game, this is because your system does not have a specific art asset, and will often be amended right away by relogging into the area.

There are no "stealth updates" in a general sense. No "Close the game and relog" type updates, and the only incoming files you see other than the regular updates are things you need to play the game on an individual basis. Just as BrokenSymmetry stated.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ashley Twig

So what's your advise?
Should we switch to american servers to avoid the lag?
Will the american server be able to handle the additional load, if we all were to switch?
Should we stay in europe, grind our teeth and soldier on?

No, yes, and yes. That is my advice. We truly do appreciate the problem and definitely are working on the issue. Saying "We appreciate your patience" seems weak, but it is sincere.

Algren Cole

Banned

Join Date: Jun 2005

28 Jul 2005 at 16:02 - 91

thanks Gaile...

now go answer the Gwen thread

DrSLUGFly

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2005

European Server or International

28 Jul 2005 at 16:05 - 92

I for one have full faith in the dev team (despite what somebody may have read in my artfully composed goredengine post). However, I and my full guild have switched over to the US servers (as have many others) because of the flawed WaW system. I don't want to derail the thread (not that there's really a focus) but I wonder what priority level this merits to the dev team and what, if anything, they plan to do.

EtrnalXellotath

Academy Page

Join Date: Jul 2005

Massachusetts

28 Jul 2005 at 16:53 - 93

All I can say is that I am so happy that Anet responds to the boards. They're doing their best to make us happy, shouldn't we be happy for what we've got?

Im not on the Euro servers, but I can understand their pain, and I know that the team is doing all they can to fix it... So relax, grab some popcorn, and wait for it.

Stev0

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Apr 2005

Halifax, NS, Canada

28 Jul 2005 at 18:01 - 94

2 weeks no update -> Pissed off
1 week no update -> Pissed off
1 day no update -> Pissed off
1 hour after update -> Pissed off
1 day after update -> Pissed off
lowered drop rates -> Pissed off
upped drop rates -> Pissed off

I see a trend.

stumpy

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2005

Canucklehead BC, Canada

Advanced Necro Undead Society

28 Jul 2005 at 18:11 - 95

you forgot ...

posting on boards ----> pissed off
replys are not agreeing with me ----> pissed off
replys agree with me -----> pissed off
mods help me ------> pissed off
mods warn me ------> pissed off
mods ban me ------> pissed off
drink a beer ------> pissed off its empty
want a beer ------> pissed off gotta walk to fridge
get booted from underworld -----> pissed off
successful underworld run ------> pissed off
ecto price rises -----> pissed off
ecto price falls -----> pissed off

and the list goes on ...

Dyeeo

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2005

San Diego

Lost Children

E/Mo

28 Jul 2005 at 19:09 - 96

Quote:

Originally Posted by dbgtboy

are you being serious? ive played games with about 1 patch a month if i we were lucky, this is a free game, its nice enough of anet to even put patches and add new stuff, i honestly dont care if they never even did any patches because all i payed was $50.

Many games dont have patches because they aren't broken at release.

Izzy Izumi

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2005

R/N

28 Jul 2005 at 19:16 - 97

We need to end this with a late firestorm. =]

The devs are workin' on it. So sit tight, if the european servers are down, head down to the American servers. Heck, even go to the Korean server. Or, *gasp* play another game!

Yes, Guild Wars is addicting. Addictions are usually bad, y'know? :wink: I know its futile to say "it'll come soon", because y'all want to play *now*...but...sit tight.

Oh, stumpy, i'll add a few
gold rare drops become rare --> pissed off
drake's lightning fixed so they're acutally lightning drakes --> pissed off
updated armor --> pissed off

JoDiamonds

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2005

New England

28 Jul 2005 at 19:21 - 98

As far as I know, no one ever said they'd make weekly game updates, and expecting it would be a bizzarrely unrealistic expectation. They spent years making the game. How much do you expect it to change in a week, while they are also making new levels, classes, races, etc.?

Acan Vishnu

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Apr 2005

Mo/N

28 Jul 2005 at 19:22 - 99

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dyeeo

Many games dont have patches because they aren't broken at release.

Uhh, right.. Anyway, made me think of this. The art is really old, but the content is still fine.

Loviatar

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Feb 2005

28 Jul 2005 at 19:22 - 100

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dyeeo

Many games dont have patches because they aren't broken at release.

how many recent pc games have been released in the last few yeard that didnt need a patch of some sort?

Evisicator

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2005

28 Jul 2005 at 19:24 - 101

I just think you all got spoiled becuase of all the patches they were doing to 1) fixed the new faction based pvp system and 2) all the new looks for the 15k armor. I don't believe anywhere did Anet ever say that we will be patched/updating everyweek at such and such a time.
This isn't a traditional MMO and doesnt have the customary 1 hour DT either. You know that 1 hour of DT that something is supposed to happen but when you log back in nothing has changed other than wasting an hour of time that you could have been playing instead.

stumpy

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2005

Canucklehead BC, Canada

Advanced Necro Undead Society

28 Jul 2005 at 19:27 - 102

good point ... added to list ..

1 hour of DT ---> pissed off
no DT ---> pissed off
america has favor ---> pissed off
korea has favor ---> pissed off
eurpoe has favor ---> pissed off
paying monthly ---> pissed off
no monthly fee ---> pissed off

Dyeeo

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2005

San Diego

Lost Children

E/Mo

28 Jul 2005 at 20:57 - 103

Quote:

Originally Posted by Loviatar

how many recent pc games have been released in the last few yeard that didnt need a patch of some sort?

Lol ok let me rephrase. The amount of patches should be propotionate to how much fixing the game needs to be functional. Some games need only a few patches because they work well from the beggining. GuildWars has incomplete or disfunctioning features that should be fixed. And it should be fixed regardless of whether it has monthly fees or not because those features are part of the game, not extras.

Sammiel

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2005

28 Jul 2005 at 21:04 - 104

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dyeeo

Lol ok let me rephrase. The amount of patches should be propotionate to how much fixing the game needs to be functional. Some games need only a few patches because they work well from the beggining. GuildWars has incomplete or disfunctioning features that should be fixed. And it should be fixed regardless of whether it has monthly fees or not because those features are part of the game, not extras.

That hasn't been true for years. Almost all modern games use a patching mechanism to both fix AND add content to a game. GW is no exception. Sure there were some definate issues that needed to be fixed, but at least a portion of the updates were added content of one sort or another. You cannot say that the lack of dwarven ale was an 'incomplete or disfunctioning' feature. It was an addition of content. Same with other changes. No game is ever perfect on launch, so there is always something that can be added later.

Drakron

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

28 Jul 2005 at 21:15 - 105

Well let me know when I get new content for KotOR (1 and 2) ...

Sorry but that is a load of crap, games RARELY add new content outside players mods, its not common at all.

MSecorsky

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2005

So Cal

The Sinister Vanguard

Me/

28 Jul 2005 at 21:15 - 106

Quote:

Originally Posted by Drakron

Well let me know when I get new content for KotOR (1 and 2) ...

Sorry but that is a load of crap, games RARELY add new content outside players mods, its not common at all.

So GW is doing things differently then.

How exactly is this bad?

Nizzim

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2005

Woot Loops

E/N

28 Jul 2005 at 21:21 - 107

Wow....People blew this to hell.

First of all, dont attack me, if you read the first post, I didnt complain about anything mentioned in the last five pages.

I said there either dropping the ball on the weekly update which was a cool breeze of air.

OR

There working on the X pack

Ive been optimistic this whole time, some of you are being dicks because you think youre little game is so perfect. But nothing is, I know GW listens to fans and thats great. I just would like their site to kinda talk to us and tell us whats up about certain issuses. The GW Devs to GW fanbase is like a family that needs constant communication for everyone to be happy.

Keep up the good work, Dev team

Drakron

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

28 Jul 2005 at 21:33 - 108

Quote:

Originally Posted by MSecorsky

So GW is doing things differently then.

How exactly is this bad?

There are diferences, those games are single player offline games and so they are not expected to have people playing then months after release.

GW is a persistent game world were people are expected to play for months, the lack of any new content will make people eventually run out of things to do and move on.

Also seeing the game is played 100% online and relies on expansion sales to support servers this is a MMORPG in the classic sense, it needs a player base to pay the servers (buying the expansion) and a player base to maintain the game alive.

No new content = players leaving = expansion sales unable to support server costs = servers closed down = dead game.

Scaphism

Elite Guru

Join Date: Jan 2005

Idiot Savants [iQ]

28 Jul 2005 at 21:36 - 109

Stop creating a new thread every time the update is late by a few hours.
Seriously. Stop it. Now.