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Sagius Truthbarron

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2005

Animal Factory [ZoO]

A/

29 Jul 2005 at 03:05 - 41

Quote:

Originally Posted by Excer

pve isnt supposed to be boring, but im just saying that pvp should be the main focus, hence the name Guild Wars. and who said anything about 3 yrs?

i'm just saying that gvg is fun, and can be one of many things to do while w8ing for new updates

Just becuase the game is name "Guild Wars" is NO indication that the game is about PvP. Galie Gray continues to say that "We are striving to focus on both the PvE and PvP communities". If the game is about PvP, why are they focusing on making content for PvE, since it doesn't matter?

I was pointing out that you shouldn't need to play the game religiously to win. And you don't, really. You stated "Obviously your guild isn't very active" and in reply I stated that not many, or atleast, those who have lives, can take on a major undertaking as to have more than 3 PvP days per week.

Excer

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2005

W/Me

29 Jul 2005 at 03:09 - 42

i think ur misunderstanding what i'm trying to say. basically, all im saying is that GW is very different from most other MMOs, and people who dont like to do what's in the game shouldn't complain but go play another game. simple as that.

Sagius Truthbarron

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2005

Animal Factory [ZoO]

A/

29 Jul 2005 at 03:13 - 43

Quote:

Originally Posted by Excer

i think ur misunderstanding what i'm trying to say. basically, all im saying is that GW is very different from most other MMOs, and people who dont like to do what's in the game shouldn't complain but go play another game. simple as that.

So go buy a new game becuase you want more, no matter how miniscule, content in the game? Who said that I don't like any of the current content? I never hear people like you get onto StandardAi.

Nizzim

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2005

Woot Loops

E/N

29 Jul 2005 at 03:13 - 44

Quote:

Originally Posted by Excer

i think ur misunderstanding what i'm trying to say. basically, all im saying is that GW is very different from most other MMOs, and people who dont like to do what's in the game shouldn't complain but go play another game. simple as that.

no. Thats no solution to a problem.
You cant make a game aimed at a certain demographic of casual players and lean it towards pvp, whilst you include a pve with nothing interesting for the minority of hardcore players, thats no way to make a game.

PieXags

Forge Runner

Join Date: May 2005

The Infinite Representation Of Pie And Its Many Brilliances

29 Jul 2005 at 03:20 - 45

The thing is if it were optional you'd have those mining loads of materials, iron, wood, whatever. Then, because it was part of the "job" they chose to do...well think about it, wouldn't a miner be able to get REALLY rich? If it was an optional thing it'd be like W/Mo's and droknar running, only they can do it really, and they make a shitload of money doing it...if anyone else wants to compete with their prices, they better do that as well.

I just don't want it to screw the economy more so than it is already, where some "professions" get mighty rich while those who don't want to take part in such activities are left in the dust, but of course if it was mandatory as part of your character to "even things out" many people wouldn't enjoy the game anymore.

Nizzim

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2005

Woot Loops

E/N

29 Jul 2005 at 03:23 - 46

it wouldnt

It'd just be a way to get materials without having to grind to get items then salvaging them in hopes of getting one or two ingots.

You could even have radars that would tell you where there were collections or rocks holding iron, if you mined.

Same with lumberjacking

PieXags

Forge Runner

Join Date: May 2005

The Infinite Representation Of Pie And Its Many Brilliances

29 Jul 2005 at 03:31 - 47

So basically it's grinding in itself. At the rate at which you could get materials from that, you'd have an over abundance in no time. Most armors except fissure armor don't take many materials at all to get, so then people would mine just for the materials, and then sell them off for money. Basically a way to farm that's listed as a profession, except not everyone would want to be a miner or something to compete with it.

Something similar happened in another game I played a while back, there were many professions including a mining profession, and they always ended up being the richest players around, and almost everyone had to make one if they wanted to have good money.

It just doesn't seem like GW is...meant for that. It would be neat if you could just do it for fun or something, say maybe not do it for something like that where you could get money so easily, but I wouldn't mind fishing or something, and getting some dye depending on how big me catch was.

Willow

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2005

29 Jul 2005 at 03:32 - 48

I'm not sure how anyone can say "crafting won't be grind", when in every game I've played, that's all it was.

If you are bored of fighting monsters and want to go fish, don't buy a new game... LEAVE YOUR HOUSE FOR A WHILE!

Darksci

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2005

London

Lords Of The Immortal [Loti]

R/W

29 Jul 2005 at 03:32 - 49

Quote:

Originally Posted by PieXags

wouldn't a miner be able to get REALLY rich?

No... extracting iron and wood wouldn't earn a great deal of money, since the trader would hardly charge money for it - unless you sell it to other players, but of course this would lower the price, so a miner can't get rich.

And if your thinking about mining deldramor steel or steel, well no. Those aren't ores and cannot be mined - they must be crafted.

As for rubies, yes they can be mined, but probably only in UW or FoW.

I'm just putting some realism into this suggestion.

Nizzim

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2005

Woot Loops

E/N

29 Jul 2005 at 03:35 - 50

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darksci

No... extracting iron and wood wouldn't earn a great deal of money, since the trader would hardly charge money for it - unless you sell it to other players, but of course this would lower the price, so a miner can't get rich.

And if your thinking about mining deldramor steel or steel, well no. Those aren't ores and cannot be mined - they must be crafted.

As for rubies, yes they can be mined, but probably only in UW or FoW.

I'm just putting some realism into this suggestion.

I like this idea, But the rarer the item the harder to mine.

Then it would make it interesting.

And at the prices iron goes for now-a-days, getting rich of it would take a week straight without turning your comp off.

Darksci

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2005

London

Lords Of The Immortal [Loti]

R/W

29 Jul 2005 at 12:53 - 51

Well if mining is introduced, the price of iron (10gp) will go down quite fast, so it won't be an issue to becoming rich.

TheBaron82

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2006

28 Sep 2006 at 09:24 - 52

I guess they can add those classic mmorpg skill as long as it doesnt effect the price on material and such. Maybe make in town emote for it, like if you take out a bread to eat other can see it. Maybe some food give you 25% speed boost in town like that red bean etc. I look at it more like a mini game kind of thing.

kamborambo

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Sep 2006

Ex Talionis [Law]

28 Sep 2006 at 12:27 - 53

Well this is a 14 month old topic. More minigames are needed, not just for special events. One that does not involve making money such as the aforementioned.

WasAGuest

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2006

28 Sep 2006 at 13:05 - 54

Couple of things to add:

These things (mining, fishing, crafting) are being considered in GW. They have been refered to as "life skills" - search the term, you'll find the official quote.

Second, these things are not and most likely would not be the focus of the game, rather something to do besides the same old same old.

Third, Anet has admited that many of it's players have no interest in PvP in any of it's forms; so everyone (players) should really stop trying to force feed PvP as an end game alternative to playing something else. Anet has shifted it's focus from end game PvP to a longer and more interesting PvE game. Read the Factions interview back in Feb CGW.

Fourth, if life skills are added and you don't like them, don't do them. Just because it might add something into the game that gives someone a title, doesn't mean it's a title everyone has to have.

Lastly, these things add life to GW and all games that they are added too. If Anet can't keep players playing, then the players will do just what many people here are suggesting. Go play something else, which means they have spent their money on another game. Not everyone has mommy and daddy buying their games for them, so once that money is spent, they now have no money for GW. Which means Anet has lost sales. - How bout instead of trying to send GW players to play something else, support ideas that would increase the life and fun of GW.

moko

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Join Date: May 2006

28 Sep 2006 at 14:16 - 55

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheBaron82

I guess they can add those classic mmorpg skill as long as it doesnt effect the price on material and such. Maybe make in town emote for it, like if you take out a bread to eat other can see it. Maybe some food give you 25% speed boost in town like that red bean etc. I look at it more like a mini game kind of thing.

/cancels unyielding aura..why rez the thread? at least take a look at the date before posting..but good job on using the search function..or going to the very last page, lol

UBS

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2006

Earth

Mo/Me

28 Sep 2006 at 14:28 - 56

If you don't like guild wars, don't play it.

and ROFL. Mining and crafting. This is a combat game. You are talking about converting the game into something totally oppisite than it is.

warren_kn

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2005

London, England

28 Sep 2006 at 15:36 - 57

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mokone

/cancels unyielding aura..why rez the thread? at least take a look at the date before posting..but good job on using the search function..or going to the very last page, lol

Damned if you do, damned if you don't. But it was a good bit of thread necromancy, must of used the elite version of animate thread.

Spike

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2005

In front of my PC

Kai

E/Mo

28 Sep 2006 at 22:37 - 58

Actually I would love to be able to do something OTHER than kill things all the time. Its really the only major thing missing from GW. Its also why SWG was such a massive hit before they ruined it with the CU and NGE.

To UBS if you don't want to mine then DON'T DO IT. How is ADDING something that you CAN do converting the game to somethings its not in anyway what so ever. I think anything that adds to the life and gameplay of PVE GW is good.

lacasner

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2006

28 Sep 2006 at 22:47 - 59

I strongly aggree, this game is getting boring and everyone knows it, it needs some change if it wants maintain and attract more customers.

some guy

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2006

SPAWN CAMPING YOUR HOUSE

We Speed Clear H O H [ HsC]

28 Sep 2006 at 22:51 - 60

Guild Wars and Runescape are two games with totally different gameplays, so I don't think Anet should add them, and if you want them go play Runescape.

If Anet wants to add them, they have to re write the game,

BahamutKaiser

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2005

Heightened state of mind.

P/W

29 Sep 2006 at 03:14 - 61

If it is just a question of whether I want it, I say no I don't.

People play the Sims if they want to go about the mundain tasks of every day life in a virtual word....... people play GW because it is basicly a combat strategy game, with minor RPG elements. Now there are some fun minigames they could add to the game, to pass the time, but if they are going through the trouble of that, I hope it is really good minigames, not some task that I end up doing just because it makes money. I know I didn't see crafting on the back of the GW box, and I wasn't looking for it iether.

Quid Pro Quo

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

29 Sep 2006 at 04:22 - 62

We do need more stuff to do and it would be nice if we could do some of this stuff in towns to build a sense of community up some.

teenchi

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2005

PST

Heros of Titans Realm [HotR]

W/Mo

29 Sep 2006 at 21:09 - 63

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I have enough quests, missions, farming and skill capping to do in this game without adding chores.

The Hand Of Death

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Oct 2005

Cavalon

The Last Pirates (SaVY)

N/

29 Sep 2006 at 23:28 - 64

I like the idea.

The truth itself

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2005

Denmark

First Degree

Mo/

29 Sep 2006 at 23:53 - 65

People who like this, obviously didn't get the point of the game.

Crafting ect. is grinding. I didn't buy a new life, i bought a game.

Thank almighty powers, that ANet already stated, that they didn't want to do this.

Also, if you do this, GW isn't a unique game anymore, it would become another MMORPG in the endless line.

dreamhunk

Banned

Join Date: Mar 2006

:P

E/Me

30 Sep 2006 at 04:28 - 66

lol this debate was on another thread anet did say they are adding fishing and stuff to this game. they called it life skills!

another thing this game is getting boring soo anet needs to add these things or get left behinde, Anet has already pissed of alot of their pve players because of (PVP). Anet already has a bad name amoung rpg players. Getting rid of a bad name is hard to do, look at wend's barger fanchise with their bad name. If net want to stay in the mmorpg market they are going to have add these things.

I am sorry pvp players are going to lose on this for sure. it doesnot matter if most of the beta testers are pvp players, the fact is if anet doesnot smarten up they soon find themselve out of jobs! Do you really think, life skills or rpg talents are just asked on these fourms!!!!

shrouded^god

IGN: J C A C H E

Join Date: Sep 2006

843

[Liar]

30 Sep 2006 at 04:30 - 67

lol I think it would be neat...will lower the prices on some stuff im sure. I think it will be good as long as they dont make it a bot-ish feature...like...you can leave your character mining...or fishing...and leave your it going for days.

Zui

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Mar 2006

The Benecia Renovatio [RenO]

Mo/

30 Sep 2006 at 04:35 - 68

Go play Tibia, Runescape, or WoW... Please...

Nevin

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jul 2005

30 Sep 2006 at 04:35 - 69

More stuff is always better. So I'd be for it.

Kai Nui

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2005

Behind you with a knife

Celebrity Gangsters [FamE]

Me/

30 Sep 2006 at 07:16 - 70

Yeah simply:

Play
Another
Game.

Arcador

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

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R/N

30 Sep 2006 at 10:22 - 71

Well I don't mind them but i will not use them. This is not the typical mmorpg. If the masses of users want them I don't see why not include them but if I call someone from the guild and he replys "ok, but after 10 mins, I am fishing" he will get special threat :P

Kitharin

Academy Page

Join Date: Sep 2006

N/R

30 Sep 2006 at 10:52 - 72

Fishing could just be a new way of farming - whatever you catch could drop items or gold - or attack you if they were something semi-aquatic LOL - and this would make farming a bit more vairied.

Lumberjacking/ Mining/ Crafting whatever would just be things to do if you have nothing else to do. I dont have a problem with that. But I'm not shure if I like the idea of missions/ quests whatever based on them.

Anet should make it so you dont have to do them if you don't want too.