Monk superior runes is getting far too out of hands...
madness2k4
Hi all, I don't want to start a rant but the monk superior runes is getting far too much out of hand. An hours ago I was intending to buy a superior healing and protection rune for my monk so I can finish and complete my protection and healing build. I go to droknar rune trader look for the superior healing and protection they were both sold out but there were smiting and divine runes still in stock. So I gave 30 mintues or so before I go check and I hope there would be a new supply of them, I check it there was a supply of superior healing although the price is pricing at 25k and still no sign of superior protection. I said to myself 25k for a superior healing rune is not worth it and hope the price would drop a little in 30minutes time. Then i check after 30misn now all superior monk runes is gone completed out of the rune trader. So what now? Sit and camp the rune trader and pay high price for the superior rune I wanted? Or alternatively use major runes? but using major rune can give a slight impact in terms of the attributes from 15 to 16. But I'm not sure why the major vigor price and superior vigor price just suddenly shot up aswell major vigor is pricing at 2k and superior vigor is pricing at 60k they were used to be about 3k and 40k early on this week. THis inflation and infux of supply and demand needs some serious fixing.
The undead Mesmer
no i think its great gives a welcome twist to the game first whe whine because whe cant sell those stuff again now that whe can sell them for much whe go whine because whe cant buy them cheap really you all dont knw what you whant this is called economy its as changeble as a women
some ppl might not like what i said now hehe apologiez in advance
some ppl might not like what i said now hehe apologiez in advance
Gedscho
lol i am SO STUPID
i noticed al lot of people getting interested in that low health monk farming thing... I should have known that the sup prices will skyrocket....
WHY DIDNT I BUY THEM IN ADVANCE TO MAKE A FAT PROFIT *cry*
i noticed al lot of people getting interested in that low health monk farming thing... I should have known that the sup prices will skyrocket....
WHY DIDNT I BUY THEM IN ADVANCE TO MAKE A FAT PROFIT *cry*
The undead Mesmer
because you never knw when something like thats gonna happen i sold a black dye for 5k the day after that i could have sold it for a wooping 10k lol
Tyrent Frath
economy fluctuates a lot, but it adds realism to the game. I think its a good thing.
Diomedes
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Maiyn
Minor rune prices are completely out of hand as well. I can't understand that.
The undead Mesmer
noobish buy them more more ppl creat new players i think that would mean that minor rune prices go up
wolfy3455
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Originally Posted by The undead Mesmer
noobish buy them more more ppl creat new players i think that would mean that minor rune prices go up
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The undead Mesmer
yup lol far too true but hey if some ppl (like me) can make some profit out of it hey what the heck i dont care hehe
Gedscho
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Originally Posted by The undead Mesmer
because you never knw when something like thats gonna happen
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asdar
Please don't take this in a bad way but runes aren't ever needed, at least until you've completed the game and want to go to UW or FoW with some special set ups.
I wouldn't ever sit around waiting for a rune, just go out and have fun. If you're doing a build as if for PvP buying a rune won't help. You can't unlock a PvP rune by buying it.
Just check in every once in a while and you'll find one if you're looking specifically for UW or Fissure.
I wouldn't ever sit around waiting for a rune, just go out and have fun. If you're doing a build as if for PvP buying a rune won't help. You can't unlock a PvP rune by buying it.
Just check in every once in a while and you'll find one if you're looking specifically for UW or Fissure.
Ristaron
The new AI @#$%ed the whole damn economy. They're designed to be there to sell you runes/dyes/materials when you can't get them off players. Now they're just driving you to buy from other players, who pricecheck with the NPC before they advertise.
Devs! You're turning GW into a giant gold-sink! STOP! You need to rewrite the whole damn NPC AI system, because all it's doing right now is @#$%ing up the market.
Devs! You're turning GW into a giant gold-sink! STOP! You need to rewrite the whole damn NPC AI system, because all it's doing right now is @#$%ing up the market.
Xellos
Fluxuating economy is one of the things that makes this game fun for alot of people. Otherwise, collecting black dye and such is pointless, and people would have a fluxuating economy OUTSIDE of the traders. Remember before there was a dye trader? How much was black dye selling for in beta? Like what? 500-4k? Dude that's equivalent to like 40k now a days because everything kept changing and you only had 3 days worth of black dyes from the entire community. This game is designed for skill > time, if you weren't smart enough to buy it when it was cheap, that's your problem. Business skills are still skills.
ElderAtronach
I can't decide whether to laugh at Ristaron's post or not. Quick, someone call Blackace and get him to tell me whether this guy's being sarcastic!
Syno Nym
Thank these guys who had to brag about how they could farm underworld alone, and who posted their build on public forums. If those guys had just shut up, the drops in UW wouldn't have been nerfed, and the prices for superior monk runes wouldn't be so high...
Once again, thank you guys.
Once again, thank you guys.
Diomedes
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| Fluxuating economy is one of the things that makes this game fun for alot of people. Otherwise, collecting black dye and such is pointless, and people would have a fluxuating economy OUTSIDE of the traders. Remember before there was a dye trader? How much was black dye selling for in beta? Like what? 500-4k? Dude that's equivalent to like 40k now a days because everything kept changing and you only had 3 days worth of black dyes from the entire community. This game is designed for skill > time, if you weren't smart enough to buy it when it was cheap, that's your problem. Business skills are still skills. |
-Diomedes
moonshadow
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Originally Posted by Xellos
Fluxuating economy is one of the things that makes this game fun for alot of people.
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wiz12268
I saved a few Superior unided runes, and I had two sets of armor (i made on out of my "nice" set before I knew that armor didn't matter with protect bonds). So I am going to salvage one set and probably ID the others ,spam them or just sell them to the trader since most people won't pay that price, they certainly aren't going to pay 50K for an unided superior rune even if the price for all is 40K or more, they will at for it to drop and buy it then.
I have been doing it awhile. With limited success, but finally got it tweaked. But not so sure that the post effected the drops. I think routine does that as well. I used to solo and do OK just in the chamber and the first set of smites (at that time I used to get wasted sometimes even in the chamber) But I usually got an ecto and an item. But after getting killed and going right back in the drops turned into demonic remains really fast. So I went to other areas and got 4-5 purples and golds, until they dried up, and got a lot of white stuff.
But I took some time off due to boredom and just not playing the game daily. Got the mo/war out of dust and went back into UW. Cleaned up on ectos for a few trips, but the items dropped were ot good. But after a few runs even the ectos stopped. I was getting 2-3 buy killing everything, but now I get 1, and a few trips I got zero.
So I think it has something to do with how many times you go into an area and how much time you spend there. I hope if you keep dying within 3-4 minutes it doesn't count, but if you are there for 45-60 minutes over and over again, it might effect your drops.
This is theory but seems logical since the "better" I got, the worse I collected.
If they really wanted to stop it they would put a mesmer build in there somewhere, like they did at all the griffon runs. You last about 3 seconds if they see you with that build.
I have been doing it awhile. With limited success, but finally got it tweaked. But not so sure that the post effected the drops. I think routine does that as well. I used to solo and do OK just in the chamber and the first set of smites (at that time I used to get wasted sometimes even in the chamber) But I usually got an ecto and an item. But after getting killed and going right back in the drops turned into demonic remains really fast. So I went to other areas and got 4-5 purples and golds, until they dried up, and got a lot of white stuff.
But I took some time off due to boredom and just not playing the game daily. Got the mo/war out of dust and went back into UW. Cleaned up on ectos for a few trips, but the items dropped were ot good. But after a few runs even the ectos stopped. I was getting 2-3 buy killing everything, but now I get 1, and a few trips I got zero.
So I think it has something to do with how many times you go into an area and how much time you spend there. I hope if you keep dying within 3-4 minutes it doesn't count, but if you are there for 45-60 minutes over and over again, it might effect your drops.
This is theory but seems logical since the "better" I got, the worse I collected.
If they really wanted to stop it they would put a mesmer build in there somewhere, like they did at all the griffon runs. You last about 3 seconds if they see you with that build.
kleps
its funny. 2 weeks ago, 30k for a set of all four. a week ago, 50-60k for all four. last night, 120-130k for all four. if someone horded them, they could make a fortune.
Strong Fist
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Originally Posted by Tyrent Frath
economy fluctuates a lot, but it adds realism to the game. I think its a good thing.
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Definitley not a good thing. And it fluctuates way too much. Yesterday morning at 11am sup. monk runes were starting to reach 20k. Today 11am, sup. monk runes 40-55k, and rising.
stumpy
yeah ... and we got 1 weekend to farm them before they do anything about it so (steps outta the underworld where farming is costing me 1 plat on entrance) 
Diomedes
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| Definitely not a good thing. And it fluctuates way too much. Yesterday morning at 11am sup. monk runes were starting to reach 20k. Today 11am, sup. monk runes 40-55k, and rising. |
-Diomedes
Drakron
I think prices are too low ... runes need to reach the 100k mark (to buy, the trader sould only offer 25 gp for it) and so sould rare materials (with materials being around 1 k for unit).
Xonic
google stock is getting out of hand too... 
I should have bought a lot of google stock when it was still cheap
the Fed needs to nerf google, or at least put a price cap on their stocks. it's outragoues
I should have bought a lot of google stock when it was still cheap
the Fed needs to nerf google, or at least put a price cap on their stocks. it's outragoues
wiz12268
I saw them sometime early in the morning Thursday 2-3 AM back down into the 9-11K range. Heal had dropped from 37 k to 10800 or so. I figured people were not doing well or saw how they could make money when they were hi and sold back. So I was very surpised when I looked yesterday afternoon and saw 40s & 50s per. That is why I thought about salvaging and selling. I found 2 of the four in my first armor. And I bought the 4 for the other set when the traders first came out and runes were uber cheap (except for sup vigor and major absorb). So I might have 2000-3000 in all six runes I bought. I think I bought the other two off players (ided) for 500-750 gold per, can't remember now been a couple months. But not a bad return.
Pinch
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Originally Posted by Drakron
I think prices are too low ... runes need to reach the 100k mark (to buy, the trader sould only offer 25 gp for it) and so sould rare materials (with materials being around 1 k for unit).
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ComMan
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Originally Posted by Tyrent Frath
economy fluctuates a lot, but it adds realism to the game. I think its a good thing.
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Because I care about realism in an RPG where my wizard fights minotaurs in the underworld. Right.
I know I'm having fun knowing that I have to farm 5K for a something that somebody else payed 200g for yesterday. Thanks a bunch realism, I appreciate it.
firstwave
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Originally Posted by ComMan
Because I care about realism in an RPG where my wizard fights minotaurs in the underworld. Right.
I know I'm having fun knowing that I have to farm 5K for a something that somebody else payed 200g for yesterday. Thanks a bunch realism, I appreciate it. |
EmperorTippy
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Originally Posted by Gedscho
lol i am SO STUPID
i noticed al lot of people getting interested in that low health monk farming thing... I should have known that the sup prices will skyrocket.... WHY DIDNT I BUY THEM IN ADVANCE TO MAKE A FAT PROFIT *cry* |
Drakron
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Originally Posted by Pinch
Making prices that high means you'll HAVE to grind if you want anything, even if you are casual. Want that 1.5k armor in droknar's? Oh wait, you're 50k short.
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Xonic
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Originally Posted by ComMan
I know I'm having fun knowing that I have to farm 5K for a something that somebody else payed 200g for yesterday. Thanks a bunch realism, I appreciate it.
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I know Bush is to blame for a lot of things, but this may not be one of it, unfortunately.
Dwiggit
I am actually enjoying the emergence of the game economy. The fluctuating prices follow some basic laws of supply and demand. The economy does seem a little wild right now, but it will correct like the real-life stock market does.
It's a science/art to predicting what will rise and fall in price. I know I've said of many types of stock, "I should have bought stock in Microsoft", but I just didn't have the knowledge beforehand.
I don't really do farming, but I do pick a few gems on my ventures into the wilderness. I just hold on to them until the price is favorable and then sell them. For example, last night my Necro/Ele finally made it to Droknars... time to buy new armor! Unfortunately, I only had about 4K available. I checked out the prices of few things that I might want to sell to get an idea of a good going price. I sold 2 superior monk runes (protection and smiting) and some black dye and made a totoal of about 55K. I now had plenty of money to buy materials and my armor!
Now today I hear that I can sell those runes for ~40K each! Oh well... such is the economy! I still got the equipment I needed!
So just sit back and enjoy the economy! It's fun to watch!
Dwig
It's a science/art to predicting what will rise and fall in price. I know I've said of many types of stock, "I should have bought stock in Microsoft", but I just didn't have the knowledge beforehand.
I don't really do farming, but I do pick a few gems on my ventures into the wilderness. I just hold on to them until the price is favorable and then sell them. For example, last night my Necro/Ele finally made it to Droknars... time to buy new armor! Unfortunately, I only had about 4K available. I checked out the prices of few things that I might want to sell to get an idea of a good going price. I sold 2 superior monk runes (protection and smiting) and some black dye and made a totoal of about 55K. I now had plenty of money to buy materials and my armor!
Now today I hear that I can sell those runes for ~40K each! Oh well... such is the economy! I still got the equipment I needed!
So just sit back and enjoy the economy! It's fun to watch!
Dwig
Teh Azman
Honestly, I'm liking this. I figured out how to solo the UW before everyone knew about it, and I WASN'T one of the leaks. I stopped after maybe 2 runs because I figured it was an exploit and told nobody, I also bought all my 105 HP farming monk's runes when they were 1k-5k each. Now when I get close to the point when I can buy my Necro's fissure armor, I plan to salvage them out of my monk's armor, and make 250k or more off of them.
Good luck to you who are having trouble with this, long as I still make my 250k :P
Good luck to you who are having trouble with this, long as I still make my 250k :P
Mistriss Of Darkness
Supply and demand is one thing. But the increase in prices over such a short time is not very beneficial IMO. I understand that it's basic economics for prices to jump when there is a huge demand. However, prices in the real world don't usually double from day to day (for the most part). How would the economy be if gas prices were 2.00 a gallon one day, next day 4, then 8? They should build the algorithm to limit the price increase.
Xonic
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Originally Posted by Mistriss Of Darkness
Supply and demand is one thing. But the increase in prices over such a short time is not very beneficial IMO. I understand that it's basic economics for prices to jump when there is a huge demand. However, prices in the real world don't usually double from day to day (for the most part). How would the economy be if gas prices were 2.00 a gallon one day, next day 4, then 8? They should build the algorithm to limit the price increase.
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madness2k4
As some people said about farming uw which caused the monk superior rune price shot up. I don't want to go off topic but farming uw eventually anet is gonna hit uw drop rate even harder and turn the place not worth visiting. If I was the developer I'd put a check for party size to stop anyone that is less than 6 or somewhere about there top stop people farming uw and this can also apply in fow and in trade to that and have the drop rate back up. All the minor rune prices for all profession is going up. This economy is just too messed up. Yes we know it adds realism to the game like someone said in one of the post but it just getting too much out of hand. This is just like in real world, lets say if you wanna 1 apple and its cost $10 or £10 or €10 would you consider buying it? You would think to yourself that the economy in that country is "too" messed up.
Xonic
The thing is, do we NEED to buy that apple NOW? can we not fuction without that apple this minute?
if the local supermarket is charging $10 per apple, I would laugh, go home and check back a few days later. In the mean time, I'll just eat orange.
if the local supermarket is charging $10 per apple, I would laugh, go home and check back a few days later. In the mean time, I'll just eat orange.
Racthoh
Eh, the price you pay to be the class that everyone wants in their group.
Superior absorption are 90k+ and there are a lot of warriors as we know. Every warrior is going to want one unlike the monk runes. I'd say an average player would buy 2 monk runes tops. 3 Would make you far too weak unless you actually know what you're doing.
Superior absorption are 90k+ and there are a lot of warriors as we know. Every warrior is going to want one unlike the monk runes. I'd say an average player would buy 2 monk runes tops. 3 Would make you far too weak unless you actually know what you're doing.
Night Daftshadow
i like how these superior monk runes are +40k. yesterday i found a superior healing prayers and sold it for 35k. now, the minor warrior runes are starting to go up. the other day, i saw the minor strength go for about 10k at the trader. and it's minor only!!!