Would you still be playing if.....

Granamyr

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2005

Mo/

Would you still be playing if this game carried a monthly fee?

I still think there are fun parts to this game but not $10+/month fun. Everyone has a different idea of fun and chances are, there has been an update that has either increased or decreased your definition of fun. For me, most have decreased my enjoyment. I still play because I can still find ways to make the game fun but I doubt I would pay for the privilege to do so.

To that end, does that define Guild Wars as a second-tier game? Does it deserve a lesser standard to judge it by because they don't charge a monthly fee? The game only has to be "free fun" instead of "I'd pay a monthly fee to have that kind of fun".

Are gamers starting to operate under the "I play because I can" philosophy instead of "I play because I really want to" one? This raises another question. For pay-to-play games, do people eventually operate under the "I play because I have to justify the cost" as opposed to "I play because I'm really having fun". I imagine very few exist in the first camp because they could easily quit unless some they'll really enjoy is still yet to come....but in the near future.

Just throwing a few questions out there....

MSecorsky

MSecorsky

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2005

So Cal

The Sinister Vanguard

Me/

Probably not. But, that's more due to a wife that wouldn't understand the monthly charges for a game...

sidepocket13

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2005

New England

Metallica Roadies

Mo/Me

i wouldnt have started playing if there were a monthly fee, but now that i am addicted i dont know if i could stop if one were implimented............

SOT

SOT

Banned

Join Date: May 2005

East Texas

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Quintus

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2005

GW during Beta period: I would certainly think about it.

GW now: Definitely not

Swarnt Brightstar

Swarnt Brightstar

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

Mongolia!... But sadly Florida

Rulers of Mythology <ROM>

R/Mo

LOL, I wouldnt have gotten the game because I get 5$/week, and I need all the cash I can get for more games, lol

Xonic

Xonic

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2005

Mo/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Granamyr
Would you still be playing if this game carried a monthly fee?
a big fat Yes! assume a monthly fee will stop some of the immature players.

tuskenraid

tuskenraid

Academy Page

Join Date: Jun 2005

SoCal

Quote:
Originally Posted by MSecorsky
Probably not. But, that's more due to a wife that wouldn't understand the monthly charges for a game...
DUDE!!!! Tell me about. I have hardly time to play as it is. My wife is so not a PC gamer. If I had to pay for it.... pffff..... not gonna happen *mumbles about budget and crap*

Shadow_Avenger

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

Stolen Dreams

R/Me

Erm no, it doesn't have enough content to warrent a monthly. You may pay for a month or two, but then you will have seen and done everything. So a big fat no.
As for monthly fee stopping immature players... dream on.

Diomedes

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2005

Blue Island (think Chicago)

Me/N

Quote:
a big fat Yes! assume a monthly fee will stop some of the immature players.
I've gotta say, I've heard that argument before, and I find wealth uncorrelated to maturity. I say this as I know a large number of wealthy jerks. I also have played games with a monthly fee, and I can assure you that immature idiots still exist (and IMO roughly the same % of the population too).

-Diomedes

MSecorsky

MSecorsky

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2005

So Cal

The Sinister Vanguard

Me/

Quote:
Originally Posted by tuskenraid
DUDE!!!! Tell me about. I have hardly time to play as it is. My wife is so not a PC gamer. If I had to pay for it.... pffff..... not gonna happen *mumbles about budget and crap*
I feel your pain, and share it. Every now and then I'll get the old "I hate that game" speech, regardless of what it is. I save playtime until the kids are asleep and she's settled down to something else, but still... a monthly fee would not fly well.

Mavrik

Mavrik

Forge Runner

Join Date: May 2005

Alaska

Quote:
Originally Posted by MSecorsky
Probably not. But, that's more due to a wife that wouldn't understand the monthly charges for a game...
Yeah same for me. GW caught my eye because of the "No Monthy Fee" label on it and that suits the wife just fine. She and I are on a budget though sure $10 a month might not be a big deal to some but for me, I like to just pick up a game any time I want and play it. To have a fee that I would have to pay just to play a game on a whim would really suck. Its kinda the main reason why I NEVER once tried EQ...

Swarnt Brightstar

Swarnt Brightstar

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

Mongolia!... But sadly Florida

Rulers of Mythology <ROM>

R/Mo

Lol, I was TRYING to get FFXI but I wasnt allowed because of the monthly fees....

tuskenraid

tuskenraid

Academy Page

Join Date: Jun 2005

SoCal

Quote:
Originally Posted by MSecorsky
I feel your pain, and share it. Every now and then I'll get the old "I hate that game" speech, regardless of what it is. I save playtime until the kids are asleep and she's settled down to something else, but still... a monthly fee would not fly well.
LOL! I have heard that speech so many times it's rediculous. It's either that or, "come here, we need to talk about something" just as I've gotten in to an FoW or UW group. Yeah, try explaining how a bunch of people from all over the country are going to give your "made-up" character a bad reputation in a world that doesn't really exist. I digress. Although recently, I have discovered that addictive TV series and NetFlix work very well together..... mmmhhhmm, solid hour of playtime for me!

Sunrazor

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2005

Definitely not.

I wouldn't play any game with a monthly fee.

MSecorsky

MSecorsky

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2005

So Cal

The Sinister Vanguard

Me/

Quote:
Originally Posted by tuskenraid
LOL! I have heard that speech so many times it's rediculous. It's either that or, "come here, we need to talk about something" just as I've gotten in to an FoW or UW group. Yeah, try explaining how a bunch of people from all over the country are going to give your "made-up" character a bad reputation in a world that doesn't really exist. I digress. Although recently, I have discovered that addictive TV series and NetFlix work very well together..... mmmhhhmm, solid hour of playtime for me!
Ha! Why is it that the whole day can go by, but the moment I start something (not even while in town, but actually in combat), she wants to talk and gets irked that I'm ignoring her? At least she falls asleep a lot earlier than I do. She also doesn't understand that, being guys, we tend to focus harder on what we're doing and multitask (i.e. have a meaningful conversation while battling monsters) poorly?

Tsukiyomi

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2005

I wouldn't be able to afford the monthly fee.

Plus then I'd feel pressured to play a lot because it's like I'm paying for it monthly which might mean that I play it all the time and that my grades begin to slip.

So in conclusion, I'd stop playing if the game had a monthly fee.

AznDVL

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Aug 2005

PCNC - Planet Command & Conquer

R/E

hell no. GW isnt even a MMORPG, its a "CORPG". Anet doesnt need the extra money to maintain servers.

Xonic

Xonic

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2005

Mo/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by AznDVL
hell no. GW isnt even a MMORPG, its a "CORPG". Anet doesnt need the extra money to maintain servers.
huh?

baalzamonbarnes

Academy Page

Join Date: Jul 2005

R/N

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sunrazor
Definitely not.

I wouldn't play any game with a monthly fee.
I agree completely. It's not a matter of how good Guild Wars is, because I simply wouldn't pay a monthly fee for any game.

Diomedes

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2005

Blue Island (think Chicago)

Me/N

Quote:
huh?
I was unconvinced until I realized he used the word, "hell". That sort of solidified the argument for me.

-Diomedes

Tactical-Dillusions

Tactical-Dillusions

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2005

Grimsby, UK

R/

I wouldn't pay a monthly fee for any game.
I would perhaps click on a paypal tab from time to time but having another monthly bill when i have children to feed is a big no no.

Mavrik

Mavrik

Forge Runner

Join Date: May 2005

Alaska

eah I'm a HUGE Final Fantasy fan... but again... paying to play... um no..

Oh heard that speach before to... "You play to much." so eventually we talked and decided on what times in the day were for us to do as we wanted to... I can play games when I get home from work till about 9pm. Sometimes at 9pm of course I could still be wrapping up a mission or something but usually I'm good at getting done by 9pm and we both turn off our computers and spend some quality time together. Weekends are another story, usually will hop on for a few ONCE I've cleared it with her there is nothing to do, that way she can't "What your on the computer again?!"

Ensign

Ensign

Just Plain Fluffy

Join Date: Dec 2004

Berkeley, CA

Idiot Savants

I would expect significantly better support if the game had a monthly fee. From my perspective, you're paying a monthly fee for the dynamic content, the constant tweaking and daily changes that come from paying someone a salary to watch the game as such. Guild Wars falls far short in that department.

Peace,
-CxE

Xonic

Xonic

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2005

Mo/Me

GW's support and update is just as good as games with monthly fees, if not better.

How often you see the development team checks and responses to forum postings in other games?

Dax

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2005

No.....
What is Anet floating idea ballons out to get reactions or what...I've seen this topic just recently?

I think some MMORPGs are worth the monthly fee (I'm playing one at present). Gw is not worth the monthly fee. Period.

November Raine

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2005

Pulaski, Wisconsin

(Leader of)The Blue Sentinels [TBS]

W/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by sidepocket13
i wouldnt have started playing if there were a monthly fee, but now that i am addicted i dont know if i could stop if one were implimented............
same here, this game is very addictive

Swampgirl Inez

Swampgirl Inez

"I love reading trash!"

Join Date: May 2005

Home Again

Can't afford it.

Kamatsu

Kamatsu

Moderator

Join Date: May 2005

Australia

I'd have to say that I'd stop playing GW if they ever started charging a monthly fee.

but this whole thread is pointless because if they started charging they would basically be shooting themselves in the head. They advertised this game as "no monthly fee", and a lot of people joined up purely because of that - I know I did. Sure I played in the E3 for everyone and WPE and really liked the game then, but if they had been planning on charging I might not have even bothered with those 2 events.

Thing is they'd loose a lot of people if they started charging - and it wouldn't all be the idiots in the game. Many idiots have CC and can afford online games I'm no idiot but I can't afford a monthly fee, so for me.. if they started charging then I'd stop playing purely because I can't pay the monthly fee's. And while $10-$15 per month might not be much to some people, to me it's quite a lot actually.

And anyways, if they started charging.. it would be completely against their whole business model anyways... and a sign that GW was about to die and it's time to get out before it collapses

Linkie

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2005

Norway

P/W

The way the game is in it's current form? No way. Then I'd rather not play any MMO game at all or go play WoW with my rl friends.

The way I expected the game to be originally with a bit of added support etc? definately.

Andy_M

Andy_M

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2005

Worthing, UK

(Don't fear) The Beaver

A monthly fee would necessitate ANet completely redoing the PvE side of the game to bring it in line (content-wise ect) with what people would expect from a game that has a charge.

It would have to be rebuilt from the ground up, it's not gonna happen and I doubt i would pay for it even if they did. Bloody good engine, though.

Weezer_Blue

Weezer_Blue

Elite Guru

Join Date: Feb 2005

Just a Box in a Cage

Hurry Up The Cakes [Oven]

Back during beta, I would have said yes. But because of recent design flaws (I'd say changes, but I'm going to give A.Net the benefit of the doubt and say they did it on accident), I hardly play now. So no.

Drakron

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Xonic
GW's support and update is just as good as games with monthly fees, if not better.

How often you see the development team checks and responses to forum postings in other games?
Only Arena Net people I see here are the "Community magerment" people and honestly all companies end up with those at some point, visible or not.

I been in several companies forums, I seen developers post and I can honestly say that most of the time companies downright ignore forum posts.

No company can do what the fans sugest, the only company that so far have made a large amount of fan sugestion implementation have been Maxis in relation to Sims content but still aways at their own time and as far the engine allowed.

Personaly I rather that a company sticks to their project and ignore fan sugestions, a lot of those are simply silly or impossible to implement and other would require a complete redesign of the game goals.

trelloskilos

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2005

Guitarring Adventurers Society

R/N

No - GW is a good game, but I have not seen any MMORPG, or any game for that matter, that justified me paying any more than the RRP on the box..

And while I'm sure that WoW is a great RPG, and while my brother is a big fan of Xbox live Halo 2, I wouldn't want to play anything that makes me pay more than once, and repeatedly.

BlaineTog

BlaineTog

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2005

California

Broken Blades

E/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by baalzamonbarnes
I agree completely. It's not a matter of how good Guild Wars is, because I simply wouldn't pay a monthly fee for any game.
QFT, yo.

Xue Yi Liang

Xue Yi Liang

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2005

Northern CA

Outlaws of the Water Margin

Mo/Me

I wouldn't pay monthly for any game.

Sagius Truthbarron

Sagius Truthbarron

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2005

Animal Factory [ZoO]

A/

Hasn't this been asked before? Has anyone ever said yes?

LifeInfusion

LifeInfusion

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: May 2005

in the midline

E/Mo

definitely not.

Stev0

Stev0

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Apr 2005

Halifax, NS, Canada

Quote:
Originally Posted by SOT
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Yeah, do a goddamn search next time please. FFS.

Weezer_Blue

Weezer_Blue

Elite Guru

Join Date: Feb 2005

Just a Box in a Cage

Hurry Up The Cakes [Oven]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Stev0
Yeah, do a goddamn search next time please. FFS.
Times change. The last time I saw a thread like this was beta. At which time, I would have paid a monthly fee. After release, I would sell my copy if I didn't know I would get so little cash it wouldn't be worth it.