If Anet Isn't going to make any updates, what are they going to do?

2 pages Page 1
Sagius Truthbarron
Sagius Truthbarron
Desert Nomad
#1
I see alot of people around who seem to think, or seem to be trying to spread the impression that Anet will never come out with PvP or PvE updates. Where does this attitude come from? Do you honestly think they will never realise the other chapters or free updates in an effort to make you quit the game?

I'de like to hear a defined answer on this. If the updates aren't comming, and Anet doesn't want them to come, what's going to happen?
Deltu
Deltu
Ascalonian Squire
#2
I think its just like a cat toy. They create many RPG mode updates, and you hope that theyll come out witha PvP one. The only PvP update ive seen is the Tomb battle of the unworthys(personally i preferred the old undead battle, less annoying.) Thats bugging me too
p
powdahound
Frost Gate Guardian
#3
Who ever said the updates aren't coming?

People are just impatient and except some amazing patch every week because they have no idea how much work actually gets put in to good patches.
BigTru
BigTru
Jungle Guide
#4
Quote:
Originally Posted by Deltu
The only PvP update ive seen is the Tomb battle of the unworthys(personally i preferred the old undead battle, less annoying.) Thats bugging me too
Me too. The Unworthy system favors spike teams waaay too much.
L
Loviatar
Underworld Spelunker
#5
updates will come as they make them.

aside from bug fixes they dont actually owe us ANY new content.

but it is in their best interests to do so.

enjoy the 2 new areas we will get this summer as they may (or may not) be the last major content this year before the chapter 2

as the additional chapters they are their cash cow or golden egg so to speak yes they will come and to get people to buy them they will have to provide a really good content value.

since it is in their best pocket book interest i have high expectations.

just dont expect them tomorrow
Ultimate_Gaara
Ultimate_Gaara
Desert Nomad
#6
anyone how knows anything about anything already knows they are working on a major update which means they dont have to make little ones every week or so..
N
November Raine
Frost Gate Guardian
#7
well thats just how people are, they want everything and then they want more, Anet is doing a fantastic job they have a great game, doing a FREE! summer update and fixing bugs...and yet people complain? that is just plain selfish especially when the time comes when YOU have to do extra work for someone other people and you dont want to do it or dont because I know most of you wouldnt do the extra work. the word im looking for is LAZY. its completely pathetic how people complain about something that is being done even though it doesnt have to be done.
S
Shadow_Avenger
Krytan Explorer
#8
I think the main grip is not that updates are coming, but Fan Site Friday is the weekly newsletter form A.net. This needs to be fresh and atleast offer some information that hasn't been said.
An example would be, the code for the AFK is in progress and we would expect it to be introduced in the retail within the next month, without any major bugs.
The Upgrades to guilds are approx 50% done.
The new area maps are finished and the final few quests are being polished off and we would hope that these new areas are available in the next few weeks barring any major bugs.
Or there has been a delay on the new areas due to technical issues and as soon as these are ironed out the areas will become available.
*release stats on one of the new creatures / or the skill sets that some of the creatures will be having* (this is a basic carrot and can give info without giving the game away)
They could even release a tit bit about the story for chapter 2.
The current spirit spamming build of the month is being looked at, if no effective counter can be found, then there will be a slight adjustment to spirit skills. ( sumoning spirits takes longer to complete the spell and is easier to interupt, if interupted the rangers skills are disabled for 5 seconds but the duration of the spirit is 5 seconds longer per level, but there HP remains the same. This would not stop the build, but would actually make it more risky to use and therefore easier to counter, as spirits would become what they where always ment to be and that is a AoE prep that you really need to do before the enemy reaches the front lines.)
Even release a new screen shot, concept art or even a wwall paper for fansite friday would be cool.
Simple things like that that get the player thinking , hmm lets think of a counter, a skill set to play the new areas, that looks cool.

ATM players look to wednesday for updates and fansite fridays to see whats going on, this is actually of A.nets design, if you give people milk and cookies every friday, you can't expect to give then a glass of water on the occational friday and not get some kick back from the people.
TheGreatBoo
TheGreatBoo
Krytan Explorer
#9
People are just impatient. Pve-wise they're bringing in 2 new areas, monsters, and others. Pvp-wise they're working on a new system to make unlocking things easier. They're working on alot at the moment. Don't forget observer modes coming up as well.
c
coleslawdressin
Krytan Explorer
#10
Quote:
Originally Posted by November Raine
well thats just how people are, they want everything and then they want more, Anet is doing a fantastic job they have a great game, doing a FREE! summer update and fixing bugs...and yet people complain? that is just plain selfish especially when the time comes when YOU have to do extra work for someone other people and you dont want to do it or dont because I know most of you wouldnt do the extra work. the word im looking for is LAZY. its completely pathetic how people complain about something that is being done even though it doesnt have to be done.
/agree

AND

it is ignorance..... 99.9% of players/forum visitors don't understand the extreme difficulties involved in making a video game, testing it, adding content.... AND trying to stay within a profitable business model. They cant triple their staff just to kick out updates faster in good faith you will buy an expansion.
Sol Invictus
Sol Invictus
Ascalonian Squire
#11
A good business model is not pissing off your customers. Adding content and testing it isn't difficult: that's what the Live team (if they have one) is for. Alphas are for testing.

Just look at BioWare. It's a big company, I know, but they became big and powerful due to their good business ethics and their willingness to listen to the community. Their game, Neverwinter Nights, has been out for several years now, but their Live team continues to provide bi-weekly updates, patches, and even new content, completely for free, in order to keep the user base happy. You can be rest assured that when Neverwinter Nights 2 comes out, the same people who are currently enjoying NWN for all it offers will be getting that, knowing that what's in store for them in terms of customer support and good service will be just as impressive as it is at the moment.

Good service builds faith, and trust in the userbase.
StandardAI
StandardAI
Banned
#12
Quote:
Originally Posted by November Raine
well thats just how people are, they want everything and then they want more, Anet is doing a fantastic job they have a great game, doing a FREE! summer update and fixing bugs...and yet people complain? that is just plain selfish especially when the time comes when YOU have to do extra work for someone other people and you dont want to do it or dont because I know most of you wouldnt do the extra work. the word im looking for is LAZY. its completely pathetic how people complain about something that is being done even though it doesnt have to be done.
Let's be honest here, A lot of us couldn't care less about the summer update because that won't make the game fun. It's just a couple of more hours of gameplay tagged on to chapter one. Big whoop, You can say that the game is fun all you want, But the fact that there isn't one aspect of the game to be happy about to a majority of the players proves otherwise.
Sol Invictus
Sol Invictus
Ascalonian Squire
#13
Quote:
well thats just how people are, they want everything and then they want more, Anet is doing a fantastic job they have a great game, doing a FREE! summer update and fixing bugs...and yet people complain? that is just plain selfish especially when the time comes when YOU have to do extra work for someone other people and you dont want to do it or dont because I know most of you wouldnt do the extra work. the word im looking for is LAZY. its completely pathetic how people complain about something that is being done even though it doesnt have to be done.
It is ArenaNet's duty to its customers to provide free, streaming content - as was advertised on the box. Claiming that we should be 'grateful' for the free content is like saying a car owner should be grateful that he even has an engine, when he complains that his break malfunctions.

Many games offer free content, and a lot of them aren't necessarily MMORPGs, either. Diablo 2 was given a nice, free boost of content with the release of version 1.10, thanks to the diligent efforts of Peter Hu, when he worked at Blizzard, whose talent is now home at Flagship Studios.
S
Shadow_Avenger
Krytan Explorer
#14
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sol Invictus
It is ArenaNet's duty to its customers to provide free, streaming content - as was advertised on the box. Claiming that we should be 'grateful' for the free content is like saying a car owner should be grateful that he even has an engine, when he complains that his break malfunctions.

Many games offer free content, and a lot of them aren't necessarily MMORPGs, either. Diablo 2 was given a nice, free boost of content with the release of version 1.10, thanks to the diligent efforts of Peter Hu, when he worked at Blizzard, whose talent is now home at Flagship Studios.
Nicely put in both post, what you said about bioware was spot on, although, the game isn't actually 7 years + old, more like 5 and a bit and they also patched about as often as GW's is doing. If you still play, NWN, check out the Epic Algia SL server. That is the first PW I built and coded using the toolset,a two year + labour of love , and is still going 4 years later, although not quite as popular as it was.
Pandora's box
Pandora's box
Jungle Guide
#15
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheGreatBoo
People are just impatient. Pve-wise they're bringing in 2 new areas, monsters, and others. Pvp-wise they're working on a new system to make unlocking things easier. They're working on alot at the moment. Don't forget observer modes coming up as well.
That's because summer hollidays are almost over and many players hoped to play the new regions during hollidays. But its ok that Anet takes the time necessary to test updates. Its only a shame that the new levels wlll come out when players eager to play are back to school/work.
Aniewiel
Aniewiel
Smite Mistress
#16
Just because my milk carton says that it 'builds strong teeth and bones' doesn't mean that it will deliver it in the first three months that I start drinking it. It takes time to build up to that shiny white, impervious-to-decay tooth enamel that I so love.

I don't think that you can say that it is ANet's -duty- to do anything. As many others have more eloquently said than I: They don't owe us another blessed thing. They published the game. We bought the game. If they -choose- to add new content, to make expansions, that is their choice, not their duty.
S
Shadow_Avenger
Krytan Explorer
#17
Quote:
Originally Posted by Aniewiel
Just because my milk carton says that it 'builds strong teeth and bones' doesn't mean that it will deliver it in the first three months that I start drinking it. It takes time to build up to that shiny white, impervious-to-decay tooth enamel that I so love.

I don't think that you can say that it is ANet's -duty- to do anything. As many others have more eloquently said than I: They don't owe us another blessed thing. They published the game. We bought the game. If they -choose- to add new content, to make expansions, that is their choice, not their duty.
Sure it takes time, but it is also in their interests to bring free content, they advertised it, not us. If they don't then you can bet your bottom dollar that they would receive bad press and lose sales in the long run as people would not trust them as a company, so in away it is their duty to supply it, not just to the gamers, but because their own honour depends on it. If it takes 6weeks or 6 months fine, but they are abliged to full fill their consumer promise
Aniewiel
Aniewiel
Smite Mistress
#18
Quote:
Originally Posted by Shadow_Avenger
If they don't then you can bet your bottom dollar that they would receive bad press and lose sales in the long run as people would not trust them as a company, so in away it is their duty to supply it, not just to the gamers, but because their own honour depends on it. If it takes 6weeks or 6 months fine, but they are abliged to full fill their consumer promise
OK, I can live with and agree to that.

And thank you for not tearing my milk carton analogy apart.
Starsky-sama
Starsky-sama
Forge Runner
#19
Quote:
Originally Posted by Aniewiel
Just because my milk carton says that it 'builds strong teeth and bones' doesn't mean that it will deliver it in the first three months that I start drinking it. It takes time to build up to that shiny white, impervious-to-decay tooth enamel that I so love.

I don't think that you can say that it is ANet's -duty- to do anything. As many others have more eloquently said than I: They don't owe us another blessed thing. They published the game. We bought the game. If they -choose- to add new content, to make expansions, that is their choice, not their duty.
/agrees.

recently, everytime i scan through this forum. it seems like there is a craze w/ "heres what i think anet should do..etc." threads in either "Q/A or Riverside Inn". all these should really be started in the "Sardelac Sanitarium" section of the forum. bcuz they do read the suggestions of players.
I am pretty surprised that it has just been 3months, it feels like its been longer, as most ppl probably feel, since their itchy and edgy to get more of the "good stuff" from this game.

*I say, just "chill", they have been providing info and updates, so just enjoy the game. plz.
as much as I think I have as great ideas as everyone else has, I would certainly place them in the right forum section, so it can be properly viewed.

*if anyone thinks diff. this is just my opinion from what ive been seeing in the forum and its threads.

-cheers.
k
kareel
Ascalonian Squire
#20
This is why so many people are leaving Guild Wars for World of Warcraft.