UW useless waste of time?

Okay, so I did UW for my first time. Team of 5 trappers. First off, I have to say 5 trappers and all the traps going off at once thus decimating everything. Pretty sweet. However; the drops.

We killed over 100 monsters easily, and only had 5 (one dropped halfway through or so). Spent 2 hours. NOTHING. Got a req. 11 13-24 storm bow, some other crap items. One guy got 2 electos but thats it. In 2 hours, even the one guy got only like 20K. I can get more than that by chest farming.

Did I just have a bad run or did UW really get nerfed THAT bad.

is UW really all about the drops?... oh wait i forgot im talking about Gold Wars

Maybe you should not do UW then...

Yeah, it was pretty much nerfed that badly. Most of the time, I usually clear 3/4 of the underworld, and get 1 ectoplasm or 1 max damage "cool" weapon (eternal/storm bow/etc) if I'm lucky.

It's becuase someone on your team had been going there all day without zoning somewhere else, probably. I got 3 ecto in 3 15 minute runs yestarday so I don't think it's nerfed

Don't go to UW and Fissure for money, it's stupid. Do quests, it's alot more fun.

hmm oh wells. I wouldn't mind UW if it had EITHER of two features:

1) More worthwhile drops
2) Shorter time to complete or something

I don't mind UW and I love to go kick ass with everyone, but it kind of committs you for a while. I don't want to be the person that just leaves and screws my team over (since you have to pay 1K - not that big of a deal but still). 1-2 hours of crunching, AND KNOWING you have to put in 1-2 hours can get a bit tedious. Or maybe I'm not finding the right team.

"useless waste of time" is redundant

My most recent UW trip was a flop; we didn't get past the first area of ataaxes, but in the group 3 ectos dropped total. Sounds like a run of bad luck.

Why do you need better drops anyway, Zer0? I thought you had a perfect character and everything that you will ever need.

You know what sagius, you're a jerk. My ranger may be done, but jee, I have 3 other characters to account for. Maybe I'd like to have some money to make a guild or help out friends.

Why don't you get back on topic. This has nothing to do with what I'm talking about and you'll just get my thread closed for no reason other than being a complete jerk.

If it's not for drops what is it for?

A challenging PvE? Right, and that's why people can solo the place. Done right it's not hard, and if it's not hard...then it's all about the drops.

Some of the major points to FoW and UW are the quests. You get 5k exp for the first quest and 10k+ for all the others. You can use this vast ammount of EXP to unlock most of the skills in the game via switching professions.

And that's why I go to UW with my W/r.

It does get to be a hassle when a skill cap costs .7-1k, though o.o

True enough, that's a fair point. I don't need anymore skills unlocked so I kinda forgot about that.

isnt that the point of UW? The whole game is a useless waste of time too.

I think its just to have fun and enjoy playing this game on a higher level of difficulty.

Very true, although I find that the places I normally farm yield more exp in a less amount of time. Few groups I get into don't take all three quests from the first reaper. Few groups I get into don't set a million traps to deal with the lone aatxe when there are 7 other capable characters.

It takes like 5 minutes to do a griffin run tops, which gets me about 3k exp and 1k gold from merchant selling. It takes 5 minutes just to get a full group of UW people together. Then another 10 minutes just to do the first quest (if we're lucky). Plus I'm sharing drops in the UW and demonic remains believe it or not do not sell as much as rare goodies that griffins do.

Skill are getting expensive after using my first 112 skills points... ugh.

I would do UW more (just because 30-40 traps all going off looks so damn cool) and its fun to play with people, but I wish it was a little easier to leave. You kind of have to plan and lure (especially with trappers) and it takes a while. I feel like a jerk ditching a team when they really do need the extra trapper.

I guess I wonder more or less why people do the UW and FOW for drops. I guess the only people that really truly look for drops are soloists.

The underworld is more about Skill points then anything else. the experience you get from quests in the underworld is Uber... 15000 exp is an EASY one to get. and you can do it time after time after time... every time you go in fact... Plus the underworld is a really nice sized map (mission sized basically). you probably only go to the north east for site runs. that's only a small portion of the realm. Here let me Illustrate this...


(special thanks to gwonline.net for compiling and posting this map)

See how big it actually is!!! you only go to 1/8th of the map probably. heck I was down there for almost 5 hours with a good team and we cleaned out the entire underworld, and got some SERIOUS drops and EXP...

BTW... all you guys farming ecto in the north east area. that's not the best place to get it actually. its in the south western region. almost every creature there drops ecto and shards. Tons of them...

Equally so the Fissure of Woe is Also huge and has some really good drops in the far south eastern area... Why? cuase few people go there thats why. its out of the way, and has lots of creatures to fight... (sorry I have not found a good map for fissure of Woe yet) and making one only about 20% there...

I dunno, I play FoW and UW daily, and usually spend at least 3 hours in both. Now I play that much and I just got my first ecto drop today, but I've goten plenty of other drops and Im satisfied. Problem is since Shards and Ecto are RARE and can only be goten in UW and FoW people expect Every Single Drop to be one of these RARE items. the FoW is something to really work for, most people want the Shards and Ecto just to sell em. So if you do get a rare drop consider yourself lucky, really guys.


PS FoW kicks the shit out of UW, I average 3 shards and 2 purple items and a random dmg chaos axe Every Trip there.

I agree.. its just so hard to get a party together anymore to go there. all anyone ever wants to do is go to UW for ecto. I'm like sheessh.. its been slow going on the map making because of that as well...

Well if anyone is forming a team to explore the entire UW/FoW count me in. Just today I did the betrayer quest that the forgemaster gives in the fow... man, the area you go to is awesome. I'd love to what else that place has to offer.