***Petition To Remove, Or Better Recent Economy Patch**

The recent economy patch, in my opinion, has completely ruined the economy. Now, all you see are large hordes of players standing by the rune trader. Prices on runes have signifcantly dropped, and now when you get a superior rune, it isnt worth anything, I mean, come on! Arent superior runes meant to be "Superior" "Rare"?? The prices of a rune now are affordable for anybody who plays this game on a regular basis. Something all of us have put alot of time into, to make our character outstanding, by luckily finding that superior rune to max out our skill, can be bought extremely cheap. Not making the game better for those who have been playing since the game came out.

I know of so many people who have been rune farming and saving them till this game has really exploded, only to sell them at a high price that they should be sold at. Now all of these people are quitting, stating that their time spent is now only worth 2-3k per rune. I myself have been saving those superior monk runes that I have been finding on runs, for when the trader is sold out and people are desperate to make their solo monks. When if they want now, they can stand at the rune trader till it refreshes and buy a rune for 1400 or 4000 gold. Not Cool!

The staff of Guild Wars needs to re-establish this patch, making the runes most bought to rise in price, and not be so common. My friends list was a group of people that I have known to play this game day in and day out, sharing favorite farming locations, where rare armors dropped, that they could salvage and sell at a high price. Now they are all asking if there is anything i would like, because they are all QUITTING, because their inventory and storage full of RARE runes can be bought for a rediculous low price!!!

What is going to happen with this "Summer Patch" that is going to make rares drop more often?? Who cares about that anymore right? Because now you can buy them. The next patch is ruined, in my opionion, and the thoughts of others. So yea you will be able to explore new areas, but what is the fun in that? Anybody will have the advantage that those of us have worked so hard to obtain.

I know the multiple numbers of rare gold armors that are superior runes that i have, that were once worth 10k-60k gold, are now only worth a mere 5k gold. All of them are just a bit of extra change in my pocket. I have over 500 hours in this game of working hard to get these runes that are most sought after. I know alot of you out there feel the same way.

My thoughts are either to remove or better the recent economy patch. I found nothing wrong with the way the game had been being played. It was fair to everybody. If you are new to the game, you cant expect to have the luxuries that people who have been playing the game for three months do.

To better the recent economy patch, instead of an item selling out, and being available again in a minute at the same price, they should have the item come back at a significantly higher price. Or just do as they had been doing, and the price of the item continually rising, but being constantly available.

If you agree that this recent patch is only hurting those of us who have spent our time playing the game to become rich; Please leave your thoughts, and some helpful information that could be used to either better the economy, or remove it. Thank You! Perhaps making this thread sticky wouldnt be a bad thought either.

I disagree. Why should the game revolve around the people who farm? thats not what the game is about. Sure, some people find it fun but if you don't like a patch that gives the farmers a hard time and makes it alot better for everyone else, I don't think much is going to happen.

Just what I think..

BUY FOR

1K minor
10K major
25K superior

SELL FOR

500g minor
5K major
15K superior

Everything is always in stock. Those should be the prices, and that's how runes should be run in the game.

Solution to your Problem:

Whine some more.

I agree with Zero, this whole fake supply and demand bs just plain sucks period.

Favor the grinders?

Right...

The only thing needed here is for more drops to replenish the Sup Runes so that rich players will stop buying them out. The supply and demand is a fun idea and it helps people interact with the economy, but with these cheap prices ANYONE with 10k+ can easily buy out a shipment.

Just increase the Sup drop rate. I don't think they should be THAT rare, esp now that most economic players have 20+ of each rune.

Why does it need to be removed? The prices are BETTER than they have EVER been for most products. It's just stupid to remove cheap prices just becuase people have alot of gold.

Solutions 2: Force Disband any economic controll guilds

Timmo, im not saying it should revolve around those who farm. However I bet if you youve ever found a rare armor, salvaged it into a superior rune that you knew was worth alot, saved it, knowing the prices are only gonna rise one it, only to find on day you get on, and you can buy this item once worth 40k for only 1.2k gold! Not fair at all... Once going out and finding a rare rune would be exciting, and people would be like, oh man your lucky. Now people say wow, too bad you didnt find that a few days ago when it was worth something... Just saying, its not as much fun anymore....

I hve just realised : no matter what Arenanet does there would always be a large group of people whining.

I don't agree. There will always be whiners, but what arena.net has been doing has resulted in making larger groups whine, instead of doing what they should so that there would be only smaller groups whining, because that's all you can really hope for.

As for this thread, I can't make sense out of its existance; the market on almost all runes fell out a long time ago, when the rune trader was first implemented. Nothing has really changed except for the goons that get rich quick by buying the valuable runes when they are dirt cheap whenever the trader gets a reset.

Sounds like someone's mad because they didn't get to take advantage of the reset prices

Correct me if I'm wrong, but one of this games selling points(and I'm pretty sure its on the box) was that it was for "Casual Players." So allowing the average Joe with a Job and School to actually play the game to its fullest(and that includes being able to buy the Sup Runes and REASONABLE prices) is frankly Anet doing what it promised.

If you're unhappy that your sup runes don't sell for ungodly amount now, well tough luck, you should have sold sooner.

To be honest, I was annoyed when they introduced traders to begin with. Before that, the economy was purely player based and was an honest system. The only real problem I saw was that people could charge like 1k for 10 cloth while in another district, someone would be selling for 50. I say that they should've put in an auction house to begin with and never brought in these goofy traders, or if they WERE to use traders, have em only buy so that people could get a fair and reasonable price.

You don't need superior runes to be competitive in this game. Which is why it's alright for them to cost quite a bit.

But yeah, it's a great idea to drop prices with a patch, let people buy 100 of each rune and then remove the patch; resulting in those people being able to sell the runes they bought for 70k each o.o

I think they should just let things work it out becuase the new economy is alot better than the old one, excluding the fact that it's alot harder to buy sup runes now.

I don't know if you ever checked the rune trader or not before the patch happend, but all non-monk and warrior sup runes used to be below 1k.

That would be a good thing except it's equally as hard to find superior runes though reasonable gameplay.

You can't really undo what has been done anymore. The night the patch was applied some people got insanely rich by buying off everything the traders had. You can't ever undo that.

Also, the basic idea of fixing prices was a good one since the economy HAD been screwed by these super inflated prices.

The WAY A-Net did it was ...well, not really well thought-out. You CAN'T fix a free market by setting prices. It simply doesn't work. They should have increased the supply to lower the prices and then cap them. They still can do that. To put in several thousand sup runes to the traders is only way to go now. It will both fix the economy and scew the hoarders, since nobody would have to buy from them at ridiculous prices anymore.

if you free yourself from the idea you need lots of gold to have fun in GW you will be much happier.

The economy was completely screwed before the patch. And now you just can't make enough money? Tough, you have absolutely no right to be stinking rich. And that's what your rant seems to amount to "Me and some other farmers think we should be even more mega-rich than we are but we're not. It's so unfair <slams door>".

And anyway the runes were never actually worth the sky-high prices that the trader sold them for anyway because everyone knew the traders were screwed up.

The way the economy works now might not be perfect, I don't know because I play the game rather than the economy. But one this I do know is that the way the economy is now favours the ordinary players, not the mega-rich farmers.

My heart really bleeds for you, if you look really closely you might even be able to see tears.

I thought this game was based on skill, not on what you have equipped. Now that everyone has their hands on a sup rune, or can now, it would go down to just skills now, rather than, he "who hordes the most items wins"

Hey guys, yay. Less grind.