Too biased?

Alright, I've been trying all kinds of things in GW and my personal conclusion is that the damn game is to f***ing biased. Now before this turns into a flame, I will provide FACTS for drawing this conclusion. I am just so tired of the constant uphill battle, even at max level! I mean come the f*** on, when you get tougher things should get easier. In GW your hard work earns you NOTHING. The game does not reward anything. Anyway, here is my list of totally unfair rules in GW.

• Runes-
  This just has me pissed to begin with. I get some buffed rune (superior for instance) and it has positive and negative effects. Now, let's say I have a major rune of the same kind. The negatives stack even though the bonuses don't. WTF? If you're going to stack the negatives then WHY THE HELL won't positives stack? They claim it gives you the effects of the better rune, but then why does the lesser rune STILL hurt you? That's retarded! Let us stack positives damnit, it won't hurt anything. The guy with five major swordsmahip runes can be countered by the guy with five major absorbtion or major vigor runes. It's common-sense!
• Rune Traders-
  This addition completely ruined the game. Check the price of a superior vigor rune. Chances are it's around 50plat or more. Now buy one and request a quote. What? Your 50plat rune is worth 25gold? WTF?! I've had runes worth 20plat and that idiotic trader won't even offer me half price! Runes sell for a set 25gold, and that is totally retarded. Why even bother salvaging runes if it's only worth 25gold each? I don't like standing around all day shouting "WTS WTS WTS" to get a fair price for the runes either.
• Mega-Packs-
  What is it witht he constant addition of monsters? New content is one thing, but now missions that once could be soloed or done with henchies can't be done by anybody but lv20 characters, if even then! Take for instance a specific jungle mission. I soloed it probably a dozen times. Two days ago I went in and even with two lv20 characters, me at lv16, and several pubbers, we had out entire party wiped out in about thirty seconds. Who's f***ing bright idea was it to place almost twenty of those scarabs in the SAME f***ing area?! What genious devised that plan? if they expect us to win that they ened to remove their ability to use spells or up the party limit or SOMETHING. It's happened all over the game-world though, and I am sick of it.
• Balance-
  Is it just me, or is it more profitable and safer to stay pre-searing? You get dye, blue, and purple drops ALL THE FREAKING TIME. Now, we go post-searing and fight big bad tough guys and get jack. Does anybody else see something wrong with that? I'm not against pre or post stages of the game, but without decent drops later in the game you won't be able to buy the materials and/or equipment you need at the later stages in the game. If farming wasn't so horrendous now you could do that, but still.
• Exploration-
  Exploring is useless. Find some mega-ultra-secret location and what's you're reward? NOTHING! That's right, you found an area fifty miles away from any town or civilization and there's no chests or anything, and if there is a chest, there's a one in a billion chance that it'll actually contain something decent, and even less that it'll be some awesome item. What happened to encouraging exploration?

I played the game from the release, and later spent $80 on the collector's edition, and now get little pleasure from the game because it takes HOURS to do ANYTHING now. I hate the addition of the economy, I hate how buff mobs are in palces, and I just miss the time when GW was fun in general. Drops should be increased back to what it was at release, the economy, while helpful, needs an overhaul, and the rune trader needs to offer half seeling price for runes, MINIMUM. They also need to reduce mobs back to what they were at release. I am tired of spending three days walking a city-block just because I have a fight every other foot.

I also would like to see some amount of freeform in the next chapter. In this game you're basically walking down tight hallways, even out in the open. I mean point A and B may be a block away in a straight line, but you have to play for several hours to get through because the game forces you to walk a million miles through billions of mobs to get there. Everything seems to be reach by going around your elbow to get to your butt.

This is wrong:
A recent patch fixed the buy-sell gap. My superior vigor sells for 41 platinum.


It sounds like you were just not being careful. The scarabs in the jungle (or anywhere for that matter) are not very dangerous and the only way to have 20 of them pop up is to keep running instead of fighting as soon as you see them. You shouldn't be able to solo any mission anyways. This is a team game.

Personally, I think arenanet is on a mission to see how fast they can destroy the playability of their game. There are some areas that are now next to impossible for anyone to do, especially groups with henches in them. They totally nerfed the drop tables worldwide. They skewed the economy and item values with the addition of a rune trader and a rare materials trader. Every "fix" they come out with seems to include reduced drop rates, add mesmers to strip enchants to every mob and multiply the mob quantity by a factor of 10.

lol. I even had a sword with dmg 5-7 dropped in Mineral Springs.

Pardon my french but.

WHINE WHINE WHINE. If you don't like it, go play something else, bitching and complaining about the things YOU don't like really won't amount to a hill of beans in the grand scheme of things. People asked for it to be easier to get runes for PvE, thus the rune traders. People bitched about the buy prices of items, therefore last fridays update. People complain about how bots ruin the game, now you have areas tweaked to make them less appealling to bots. People complain how now it takes them FOREVER to earn enough gold to buy the special components for fissure armor. The game was never intended for people to A) become UBER b) get everything over night. People complain how now that they've finished the game that it's boring. Everything gets boring if you do it 15 hours a day for THREE months. People complain how PvP people can't get the skills they want without grinding. Take 3 characters thorugh the game, this will give you roughly 60% of the available skills plus about 40 skill points (per character) with which to buy or capture special ones. You don't need to have every skill unlocked. Make a build, play the build, practice the build, become good with the build, earn faction and unlock anything else you need. People complain that faction takes to long to get what you want. Lets see, in the RANDOM 4v4 arena, I can earn about 100 - 150 faction per hour. To unlock a weapon upgrade requires 1000 faction, thats oh say 7 hours of PvP. Can you tell me that in 7 hours of PvE play, you can have the EXACT upgrade you want unlocked and guarentee that statement 100%? People complain that they can't solo an area. To bad, the game was never intended to be a contest over who can solo the hardest area, teamplay is recommended, even if the team is henchmen, and actively promoted.

Rare is supposed to be rare, you're not supposed to go out for 15 minutes and come back with 20 of them. That said, I can go out for 30 minutes, with 4 henchmen in the southern shiverpeaks and usually get 1-3 purples and/or gold items. This is not a chest run this is simply wandering through an area, killing the things that come near me.

Not every "fix" includes reduced drop rates, infact I personally don't think they've changed all that much. Yes, Riverside got 'tweaked', it shouldn't have been that way in the first place, way to easy for the return people were getting. Yes, the desert got tweaked, blame the bots that were running 24/7, ANet only kicks people that it is 100% sure have broken the rules, even 1% of doubt will save a botter, and as code evolves it gets harder to detect. Thus it's much more effective to change the area a little bit so bots get eaten. Players are much smarter and can kill or avoid groups of monsters that a solo bot will get squished by.

Is the game perfect? No. Is ANet trying to make it as good as possible, to the point of viewing and occasionally responding to player inquiries and implimenting player suggestions? Hell yes. Got a problem with something, then MAKE A WELL CONSTRUCTED SUGGESTION. Think about how your suggestion would affect both PvE and PvP before you make it. For example, if PvE and PvP were 100% seperate, UAS would be fine, however they aren't. I can take my PvE into any arena. Is it fair that some people in that arena could have every skill unlocked at the click of a button when my character doesn't?

You are just mad because you suck.

I don't think I am whining. Arena.net swears their goal is to make the things you need available to you through normal gameplay. Well, through normal gameplay I have not once unlocked a superior rune of anything. Only through farming (either faction or PvE farming) have I unlocked needed runes and upgrades. For skills, I spend my time in UW farming exp for skill points OR in arenas farming faction to unlock. Mind you, I have taken 4 characters through the entire PvE storyline. (3 on my account and one on my husband's account.)

wait wait wait

so how is the game biased

you just bitched a lot

1) oh well, a little bug maybe, if they havent fixed it yet then maybe they meant to do it.. who knows

2) As somone said, i think they fixed this.. do some research before you complain please

3) Be more careful, ever heard of a tactical retreat?.. sure it may not be as gloryous as slaying the whole mob in one try, but i do it all the time and personaly it has saved my butt more times than not..

4) Not true, i still find more dyes in post than in pre... did you ever notice the sell value diffrences, it would take like 30 items in pre to make the profit of one around thunderhead keep... so you can buy dyes.. ohh ahhh (i know its a crazy idea never before tried but i feel it would work)

5) I have explored almost the whole map with my warrior and have the most important thing to show for it.. a nice squeaky clean map, plus some elite skills take some far away travling, so thats your treasure.. stop thinking of fun value in gold peices..

is it just me or is most of this rant item based?... take a moment, stop thinking about rune prices or dye drops and look at the amazing detail in the game...

*cough*collecters*cough*

I have made it through the game fine on my ranger, without a single superior rune (not even vigor). I use major vigor and the rest minors. I'm also great in PvP.
That extra 2 atribute bonus with -75 health is far from neccesary.
I even found a gold max fellblade while infusing my grotto armour with a full party of henchmen. My only level 20 PvE character is a ranger, what does that tell you about how much I farm?
I switch secondaries to unlock skills for PvP.
I have 2 "perfect" shortbows from mineral springs collecter, and 2 gold max bows so people don't say i'm THAT cheap.

All this, through normal gameplay. You just cry because Anet isn't handing you your "bottle" and making you drink from the big boy cup.

-edit-
And how exactly do your "arguments" make the game biased? Do you even know what that means? Perhaps you could say Anet lied, but biased?
Don't use the big boy words just yet.

I wasn't arguing the game is biased, and while the collector's items are nice, I've seen far nicer in random drops. However, through normal gameplay, I have not unlocked the perfect staff upgrade of enchanting. I used faction for that. I have not unlocked superior vigor. A guildmate was kind enough to allow me to unlock it then he sold an identified sup vigor, losing the higher $ value of the unid sup vigor. My point is that in the normal course of average gameplay, I certainly should have unlocked at least one superior of something, but I haven't. They have all come from faction that I had to farm up or by farming certain spots looking specifically for runes. Given the number of hours that I played PvE on my 1st character prior to going farming, sheer probability should have given me two superiors. But with the nerfing of the drop tables, I hadn't gotten one. I'm not asking for a bottle. Nor whining about the lack of a teat. I just do not see how they can claim that you can get what you need through playing the game as it was meant to be played. The simple fact is that you can't. At least with runes anyway. You have to farm for faction or drops to get the runes you need. Plain and simple. Hell, I've gone through Hell's Precipice 4x. Each time I got at least one colored armor drop. EVERY SINGLE TIME - minor rune of ............ in HELL!! That's just ridiculous. Given the enemy level there, they should at least be major runes. However, I still play (and farm) for what I need, although I am (finally) close to having most of what I need unlocked for PvP. I just wish that their idea of "balancing the game" did not equate to reducing the drop rate/increasing the rarity of upper level items.

1. Then why the hell is your title "Too biased?". Stupid....
2. It get's nicer than a req 9 15% when health is above 50% max damage weapon? Well, req 8 is possible, but if your weapon mastery is that low you are not in it for damage.
3. RUNE TRADERS!! Even if it's for a PvP character, that's why there are storage agents in the arenas.
4. They are called RARE for a reason. I have got 5, maybe 6 rares in my whole time playing. Suck it up.

It's not MY TITLE, stupid. I am not the OP of the thread.

Baratus, the topic starter has the topic "too biased". Dansamy, on the other hand, just responded to the thread.

*doh!*
You responded like you were the creator, or atleast agreeing with every word of his.
How do I know you are not the creator in disguise?
Or OUT of disguise?

Well, anyway, that goes for the both you... I guess....

When you said "I don't think I am whining" at the start of your first post, when the author had not yet responded threw me off. Just split up my different replies accordingly.

ok I just witnessed a monk with ALL superior runes. AND death penalty in underworld. That's right he has a grand total of 71 health... and guess what he tanked those level 29 bladed ataxes like there were NOTHING. and Smites like they were air. so the idea that this game is an uphill battle has got to be a joke... that's the Hardest stuff in the game and they fell like dominoes... All on One guy with 71 to 40 health he was taking 2 damage from those things... THATS IT 2 dmg. His mending took care of that like it was nothing let alone all the other buffs on him.... I could not believe what I saw. I am now of the belief that if you take the time to figure out how to play the game and learn the different builds. ANYTHING is possible in this game... ANYTHING!!!

as to values. Well. I personally think the trade button should be taken out of the game and everything be attainable from NPCs or drops only. then none of you inflating bastards would get a shilling...

And as far as more monstoers. The point was to KEEP people from Soloing areas. that was the problem. too much farming on missions that were too easy. you can still do them fine with a full party of players. Arenanet is trying to make this game more of a multiplayer co-op then a singleplayer. PvP is fine for multiplay vs mode... but PvE has been almost entirely single player till recently... even now some build can solo just about everything in the game. STILL. That needs to be elininated as well... and they are doing a great job.

(edited cause I'm sick of saying it)

I did not agree with every word he said. I simply addeed points from my viewpoint. (For example, I rather like the fact that I don't have to spam WTS Ecto if I don't want to. Sure, it screws up the value of ecto and shards, but the rare material guy is still nice to have because he buys items in singles. However, the existence of the rare material and rune traders does alter the market value of the items they sell. You can't argue against that because it is true.) If I were to agree with every word he'd said, I would simply have /signed and be done.

Besides, I made my points more eloquently than the OP. We have different language styles. Read the OP and then read mine. You will see that we structure our sentences differently.

I'm not handing out any cookies for 105 solo monks...

Ingram, yes the invincimonk build means that a mo/wa can tank nearly anything as long as his enchants are up. I am not arguing the game is too difficult. My sole argument is that lowering the drop rate only worsens the economy, which is directly opposite the effect that arena.net was looking for. They have to have all flunked economics in high school. Supply goes down = prices go up. Yet they are expecting nerfed drop tables to stabilize the economy. ??? Color me confused.

This game wasn't meant to be soloed, so that's not a problem at all. There are still a few areas though and of course now with the 105/55 monks the elite areas are soloable for them. But, for the most part this was meant to be a group game either with humans or henchies. And even some missions "Thunderhead Keep" aren't easily won with henchies, but, I'm glad cause many missions an areas are very easy even with henchies or just a few henchies.

I've scored 3 superior runes in 3 months, I haven't farmed that much though, just playing the map basically, but, I have to admit the 3 superior runes came on farming runs and not regular exploration. Sup Marksmanship, Superior Hammer Mastery and Superior Expertise. No one wanted Superior Expertise so it got sold for beans. Sup Marksmanship and Superior Hammer Mastery brought me 10k each. I don't enjoy hawking items so I sold them bascially for what was offered reasonably in a short amount of time. Having to sell items to other players is the most boring part of the game for me (I'm just not the trader type) and I can't wait for some form of ingame auction house/machine system hopefully like Star Wars Galaxies has. I certainly hope it's not like Everquest or Everquest 2 where you have to STAND in one spot and let people come up to you and purchase items from your stiff NPC like trader. That is no more helpful than just standing there hawking them for real.

I don't have a problem with drop rates, but, I have to admit the prices of some of the Superior Runes are a bit rediculous 90 plat for Superior Absorption which is only 1 more point than Major?? Cmon. And then Superior Vigor that's around 55 plat once again only 10 more hps vs a Major? Cmon. And since the 105/55 monk builds those Superior runes are pretty high priced as well. It's bad enough the fissure/15k armor costs 600k a piece, I don't think that most of the players need another money sync like runes are giving us. And also with so many monks now playing 105/55 builds it's rather hard to get a decent group for UW/FOW as well. They'd as soon solo and get all the loot as to share as I have surmized that 99% of most players are greedy. I spent 2 hours trying to get in a UW/FOW group and never got invited to a single one. All I saw for those 2 hours were "MONKS NEEDED". So, what now? Am I to resort to creating a Mo/W so I can play in UW/FOW and become a greedy bassturd like everyone else? They took away the henchies from us going in there, I say at least give them back to us and make them at least decent with good play out of the human players. I don't think players should be penalized from a zone or area just because there aren't any human monks around or willing to join any groups.

I'd say 95% to 98% of the game I enjoy though. There's always going to be things about every game we are going to find dissatisfaction with. I'll continue to play until D&D online comes out, then I will go there. I doubt I will buy the expansion though unless some things are changed for the better, prices on runes and entry into all zones by players of at least certain levels and henchies an "option" for all of them.

I'm wondering why you think things should be easier at lev 20. When your at the top you should be facing the toughest challenges.

You have to realize that in most other games when you reach max/very-high level with like the best equipment then the game becomes easy as you are so powerful that you can just walk over everything.

In Guild Wars, you might be level 20 and have the best runes, weapon, upgrades... yet the game will still be darned hard and challanging.

When you consider that this is against the norm for most games - can you see why they are complaining/whining/whatever about things being so hard for people level 20? Can you see why they think it should be easy? Because of the nature/culture from other games.. where when you reach max level the game does become easy and a walk-in-the-park...

Correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems to me that 90% of your whining essentially is about the effects of ANet's measures to nerf farming.

If all the solo farmers are so pissed off then ANet must have been done a good job so far.

I should have added that nobody who has a lv20 char should bother replying.

Also, the game specifically states that you CAN solo and not use the retarded kiddies found in pub right on the box! I am sitting here looking at it. It says use henchies as needed. Well henchies are useless! The insane number of monsters attacking at once just slaughters them in seconds, leaving you to run until finally dead, or just scratch a few before you die.

Also, I know how to f***ing play. Those scarabs were and are GROUPED. We're talking all in one tiny area. I never attempt to just run through a mission or area, that's stupid. Seriously though, that area is lv12~13 according to henchmen level, but two or three touches from those scarabs is insto-death. They don't do much damage but they have vampiric touch and they cast health-draining spells as well. Yeah, a lv20 with max skills and health could probably survive, but that isn't a lv20 mission!

Oh and is mobs aren't being changed/increased, how about this RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOing bullshit that has had me pissed for ages. Thunderhead is virtually unplayable now. We have a full party of lv18~20 characters, most of us on TS. Got to the end, some badass boss comes in and casts some bullshit spell that drains all your health in about two seconds. You try to break the hex and even if you try it 500 times, you will be interrupted 500 times. You basically get bent over and RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOed there. There is no RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOing point in doing that mission over fifty times in two weeks and not succeeding once. Prior to a recent patch that shit did NOT happen. And don't RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOing say we couldn't play, I can solo that mission up to that point and die at the SAME POINT. Now if several of us can solo to the end, and we all team up with nothing but humans who can work well together, then why is the outcome the same? Too RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOing hard!

That's got me on another point. There are some mobs in the game that are just insanely buffed and need nerfing. I am talking the ones that EVERY SINGLE RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOING TIME you cast a spell or skill, you get interrupted! Not ocne in a blue moon, I mean every damn time. There's no possible way that can happen, but certain mobs can do it. Generally these mobs also cast mega health-draining spells or hexes also. This way, they can drain you but if you attack or try to heal, you fall on your ass.

Not everybody likes going into a damn room and teaming with others. Some of us enjoy playing with henchies and our friends and/or family. To su, the game is unplayable. RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GO the damn farmers. There's a one-line piece of code to fix that. Log the player's last few missions/areas (3~5 of them) and if he goes back to one, just don't drop anything blue or better. This will force players to at least move around the map if they wish to farm.

The box is pretty much false advertisement. Sad thing is that you can't return it after discovering that. if it says you can solo with henchies then goddamnit RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOing stop making it too tough. Some fo the damn Kryta missions are the longest in the game! You need to meet an ally in the next room right? Well the door's busted so you go outside to get around. Oh shit, you gotta' walk 500 miles to get from your side of the house to his. During that venture it's CONSTANT fighting. These guys need to take a look at Morrowind, Daggerfall, WoW, Everquest, and hell, every other RPG around. I mean you can't stop five seconds in a goddamn outdoor area! The radar in most areas stays solid red. I swear I will sue when the red tube in my monitor goes out because they added too many monsters.

My main gripe is with the game grinding. I've been through every mission a dozen times. I don't want to do them with my current builds, but exploring the outdoor areas is just as bad now. Every two feet it's a RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOing group of three or more! Not everybody wants to fight constantly. Sometimes it would be nice to get around enemies to get on with life. The game is seriously RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOed right now as far as mobs are concerned. God I am just so pissed thinking about it. I WANT TO RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOING PLAY THE GAME I LOVED WHEN THE GODDAMN THING WAS BOUGHT.

Screw it, I know how to program. It's this simple. If they keep buffing shit I'll just write something to train the game. If they're going to ignore the population that enjoys being in a virtual world with a few friends or no friends, then they can ignore their methods that they are FORCED to use to survive in the game. I am so RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOing sick and tired of doing nothing but hacking and slaching to get five feet in there. It's insane how RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOing grind this game is now. I hate that goddamn shit. HATE!

Oh and if they fixed the rune-trader I was unaware because a rune selling for 6plat earlier was worth 25gold to me. Hmm, must only be a European fix.

*EDIT*

You knwo what? RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GO you. I hate farming because it's just grinding. They nerfed that shit because of the botters, and said they'd bring it back up to normal after the botters were banned. So now instead of just banning botters, we cater to them and the other cheaters until we feel we've banned them? Get real! You see a botter, BAN HIM. Don't punish the legit players.

Indeed you should have. Would have saved us all a lot of time.

Just for future reference: there is a BIG difference between playing solo and using henchmen. It is best to use the proper wording. Using henchmen is NOT playing solo. Being completely alone is solo.

Furthermore, henchmen are not useless. If you know what you are doing and know how henchmen react, they can be very effective.

monks are overpowerd why do you think every group need at least two

True. Good point. When I want easy I help out Guildmates on earlier missions. At level 20 with my monk I can have Homer's Stoopid Bird Set up to click buttons while I go to the bathroom.

I don't understand your philosophy, loot comes from dropped items and you have to kill mobs for items to drop, so the more mobs their are the more chances for loot. I have no problems with mobs every five feet. And the box doesn't say "can solo with henchies and win every mission" It says SPECIFICALLY: Play solo with a band of skillful henchmen. That's all it says it doesn't say anything about being able to win everything you do with them. It's obvious every mission isn't designed around using henchmen, even I can see that from all the missions I've used henchies for. I just ask for henchies to be allowed in all missions, cutting them from UW/FOW sorta turns me sour, but, only there.

Also if you are a "great puller" like I am you don't get 10's of mobs on you at once, I have a pulling strategy that keeps that from happening and it works quite well stringing the mobs out even if all my henchies die, I have them so strung out I can kill them 1 or 2 at a time anyway solo, then rez my henchies and continue on. This game is about SKILL and INTELLIGENCE, sometimes those that THINK they are good players really aren't, they think cause they got max damage weapons and max leet armor and a couple of elite skills they are great, lol, I've seen many an idiot fall to my axe/sword combo.

I think you just suk at most of the harder parts of the game. Don't use enough common sense and think cause you can solo to one certain point you should be able to solo the rest of the way. Wellllllll that's just not the way the game is designed. I look for more soloing to be nerfed in the future so the game is played more as it was intended, grouping with either humans or henchies moreso than doing Griffon/Troll runs solo.

Basically though hardly anyone agrees with you so you might just as well quit and go back to your EQ/Morrowind whatever, those are certainly hack n slashes as well and more boring than this game cause you get to sit and wait on spawns over and over and over again in the same place, talk about boring. Of of course you can take your max level character down to some lower leveled mobs of 30ish to 40ish and stomp them to pieces and that's "farming" in EQ and other mmorpgs, something else pretty boring. I'd rather run around in GW's and see new scenery a lot than look at the same scenery day in and night out like in the likes of EQ's and others.

Heh maybe you should just make a new character and stay in Pre-Searing forever, there you can be a uber power and kill anything and everything solo, no henchies required, then you'll be happy.

If you hate the game so much, why not delete your account and sell it? Surely that would be a better idea than coming here and screaming and swearing about YOUR lack of skill and intelligence. This game is here for people to enjoy, not to rage about.

Just one little question - before Thunderhead Keep, did you change your armour? If you did, you need to get it re-infused.

PS: most intelligent people credit swearing to a lack of vocabulary.

As an aside...

I do NOT think the Henchmen suck. You CAN beat this game with henchmen. Seriously. I have done almost every mission with them and they are quite competent IF (and this is a big if) you know what they are going to do. I have played with them so much that I know their scripting. I know when they will rush. I know when Alesia will heal people. They are predictable, but if you learn to work with that, it's pretty effective.

They have already stated multiple times that they are going to update the drop situation. So if you are whining about that, perhaps have a little patience?

Also, from the anger in your post, maybe take a little break. If a virtual world can make you this upset, you might want to take a small vacation.

Health Draining Spell, killed in 2 Seconds?
Sounds like someone is not infused...

Ontop of that, stop bashing the 105 Monk Build. Why should farming be a matter of only Warriors? Let the monks have their share too, most of them had to endure a lot of morons on their way there. People who use words that kick this annoying censor thingie in this forum all the time. But adding on that, let elementals and rangers and any other class have their fair share and place about farming too.

This forum should be called

(agreed paine)

Baratus: learn social skills. using words like "f***" won't make your arguments more solid. I've gone through scarabs in the desert and in the jungle like crazy - with both wa and ele. You just have to have a decent skillbar and some BRAINS. And I've run through them too - hard to do, but works at times. Strategy is also knowing when to run and when to fight. I've gone through all the missions in the game up to thunderhead keep (or however it's called in english) with just henchies with 3 chars (monk, wa, ele) - except for "aurora clearing". Do they suck? Yeah. But less than many human players around - at least you KNOW what they're doing.

I've never farmed once - I hate it. It's one of the reasons why I hate other MMORPGs. Still I have a perfect fire weapon, 2 sets of droknar's armor (air and fire), and runes enough. PvE. I unlocked most ele/me elites and lots of skills. I'm doing medium range pvp. I don't have a problem. You do? So sorry.

As many said already, the fact YOU don't like it does NOT mean it's broken. The fact you add curse words don't make your statements true. The fact that about no one else agrees does not mean they are morons. But it MIGHT mean that you are.

Good playing. Or not.

You know how to program? I think your last post, which shows your mental age of about 14 tells us that all you could program is likely a microwave. So go relax, heat up some popcorn, and settle back into playhouse Disney

1) Scarabs don't group in groups greater than 6-8. You triggered multiple groups.

2) If you're doing Thunderhead and getting killed by Spectral Agony, perhaps you should go get your armor infused? Spectral Agony is just about the only thing I can think of that would kill you so quickly, and it shouldn't be a problem if you're Infused.

3) I've never met a mob that interrupted 'everything' I did. 90% of mobs don't even have Interrupts. The only ones I can think of offhand the Storm Rider/Breeze Keeper flying Jellyfish line of Mesmers and the Crystal Desert Devourers.

4) You must be playing a different Guild Wars, because I can and certainly have stopped in just about every outdoor area for an extended time. Nothing really just wanders into your aggro bubble unless you're right next to it.

5) Calm down and take a deep breath. You're just ranting and exagerrating at this point.

I've just skimmed through this thread so sorry if I missed something.

I guess I play with henchies quite alot (they don't mind if you need to answer the phone mid-way through a mish etc. but I have noticed its generally a lot easier to complete a mission with human players than henchies (just because they're generally at a higher level). OK I get killed a lot but I still get the bonuses as the other players are competent

I mean what's up with the Mage henchie? He dies so easily I wonder if he's putting a gun to his head!!

the game can't be played through with henchies. They aren't smart enough to get out of AoE and they follow you so closely that when monsters do attack its the healers that take the hits. And here is a test for you players out there. Go to Ice Caves of Sorrow, get a party full of henchies, leave the town through the portal, and attack the ice imps that were recently placed there. They will cast maelstrom on your casters and your whole party will be dead in 10 seconds without even killing one imp. If your a less played class its 10 times harder to find a human group. Tanks are a dime a dozen now and healers past ascention are a needle in a haystack.

And the people bragging about being rich played for hundreds of hours before nerfing was introduced and built up their wealth, so when farming was stopped, they were able to buy everything they wanted. The game is biased against the beginner. And people say by just playing through the game you will build up your wealth. I don't think so. Look at the size of the party. Gold gets split even with henchies, and there is only a 1/4, 1/6, or 1/8 chance something will actually drop for you. Ok so a gold armor drops in a mission. Once a mission is all your going to see. First of all look at the chance its going to drop for you. Second of all, what is the chance its a superior, the only things worth anything now. And unless its a sup swords, absorption, vigor, monk runes or fire magic, its worth dirt.

Now I don't want people to call me a whiner because I have beat the game with two characters and have massed over 300 hours of gameplay for accumulating wealth after I beat the game. For 300 hours, count the amount of days I have played in that 300 hours, and I have made probably 100k, if im lucky. People say 100k!!! Thats amazing! Not really, since that means I have been farming for a week and a half solid. 12.5 days worth of farming. And a sup. absorb is worth huge amounts, so there goes my week of farming down the drain. 1000 plat for a crystalline sword? Forget about it, I havent even made a third of that total over all my characters.

The game is made better by looking cool. People take pride in their characters appearance, and that is what makes the game fun- Having a character that looks unique and looks cool from the player's point of view. People that have to settle with droks armor and a short sword while seeing people with UW armor and fellblades makes them feel obsolite, so they are driven further away from enjoying the game.

The game is fun, but hard working players are being punished for what a few botters are doing. I do hope that they will restore at least a little bit of farming.

i think it is wonderful

the OP suggests it is much too challenging since he/she is a level 20 and as the top of the heap should be stomping all over things.

ON THE OTHER HAND

there are many whiners saying you need to give us more levels and raise the cap or the challenge will vanish

Uhm, BULL!!!. Check these forums, lots of posts from people who have done every mission with henchmen. Hell, just last night, me (L15 Ele/mo), two guildmates and 3 henchmen went through riverside. The exact same mission that me, 1 guildmate and 4 other players got trounced on. I'll admit that the trouncing was due to two things, one, my guildmate who was monking lagged out at the end, and two, the 4 others were a bunch of morons that managed to aggro, not 1, but both towers at the end bridge.


Heh, I didn't know about them. However, there is another group just like that outside Marhans Grotto. I regularly go out with my ranger to see how many I can kill before I die. I've gotten 3, and that's solo. If I take henchmen out there, sure we'll probably get squished, but I bet I can kill more than 3 before it happens. Both of which trounce your not even killing one. Could it be that maybe your strategy is bad?

There's plenty of monks in the game right now. Many of them are sick of being treated like crap when the rest of the party does something stupid and there healing ability gets overwhelmed.

[QUOTE=kirkmping]And the people bragging about being rich played for hundreds of hours before nerfing was introduced and built up their wealth, so when farming was stopped, they were able to buy everything they wanted. The game is biased against the beginner. And people say by just playing through the game you will build up your wealth. I don't think so. Look at the size of the party. Gold gets split even with henchies, and there is only a 1/4, 1/6, or 1/8 chance something will actually drop for you. Ok so a gold armor drops in a mission. Once a mission is all your going to see. First of all look at the chance its going to drop for you. Second of all, what is the chance its a superior, the only things worth anything now. And unless its a sup swords, absorption, vigor, monk runes or fire magic, its worth dirt.[quote]

As has been said numerous times, this game is NOT about being UBER. I can take a pvp ranger into the random arena, have only minor and major runes on it and win just as often as I loose. Therefore runes don't make you a better player. You can get high end versions of pretty much every item in the game, +15% > 50% weapons, etc, purely by collecting things that the mobs drop and giving them to another mob. Granted these items don't have funky names or looks or special abilities such as making your dmg fire based, but you can get the mods that do these sorts of things pretty easily and pretty cheap. Hell, I've got two poison strings sitting in storage right now that I'll probably give away in a few days if I don't find a use for them. Furthermore, just last night I gave away 3 items the newbies in Ascalon, 2 near max (14-27) plain short/halfmoon bows and a max plain wingblade. I could have easily sold these items in the same location for 300-500 gold each had I wanted. Gold is easy to earn if you really need it. You're just not going to walk out into a zone and become a millionare overnight unless you get incredibly lucky and find a bunch of superior absorbs, which is always possible.

Heh, thats not why we're calling you a whiner, trust me

Poor me, I don't have Obsidian Armor, boohoo.. NOT!!! Do you really want to look like every warrior in big bad black armor? Talk about being a drone. I'd rather my character looked unique. This is why my warrior doesn't use a chaos axe, far to common.

You can farm now, no problem doing it. All they've done is modify a few areas that were getting abused horribly. I can go out with my ranger and 4 henchmen and come back with between 800 and 1500 in gold and items, not including any purple or gold items I find and I usually find between 1-3. Now, if I could solo that same area, my guess is that I'd come back with 5x that much since I take 4 henchmen with me. The place I farm when I desire to has a max party size of 8 for the record, so that should give you some idea of the area I'm in.