Sex talk and other offensive comments
Killajalavu
There reason why there is probably a lot of sex talk, is due to the fact there is a bunch of immature virgin little boys who get all happy when they remove the armors of the female characters. Some people just don't know how to handle themselves when they see a Cartoon Character Female in underwear. Especially the idiots who run around saying "I'M NUDEY!" Should be a /shoot emote to just kill them while they are walking. But that is me. Anyhow I agree with you, but you just need to understand they are immature, and don't know how to act their age with sexual talking.
RyuuTenshi
I understand that they are just being immature, but I just saw the rest of the armour sets an elementist can have. Sadly to say, I think the pyromancer set is the only one that's not really suggesting anything. I may be a little immature in saying this, but I don't enjoy running around with a bunch of strangers fighting monsters in an armour that pretty much just covers the parts that aren't supposed to be seen in public. I put up with the aeromancer armour just for the stats, until a friend made a comment that made me realize that I just couldn't put up with it anymore. I'm quite sure I'm not the only one who's unhappy about how suggestive some things in Guild Wars can be.
TopGun
Does the Ignore list filter public chat too, or just private messages?
shady_knife
i male and i play female chars, when im with my guild we fk around all the time, its just funny gettin the chars to do random stuff, i never do it in pub chat though, i did it in pub chat by accident once, im like "woops"
just my 2 cents.
just my 2 cents.
DarkWasp
It is getting pretty bad. I do hold sex in itself as a major and even good part of life. And this is killing my whole view of it.
Think of it this way, If you knew this girl (or guy if you are a girl) that you really loved. You planned to marry her, your relationship wasn't just for messing around. This was real... Now the problem was, she was respectable, she thought the same out you, felt the same way, and she never once (or has changed since) had or had the intention to mess around with any guy, however, every person says something perverted about her. You end up in another state and there are these guys who dont even know her saying stuff about her and her "features". With this happening you find it very hard to keep her in your top most respect.
Now try to understand what I mean. The girl in this story will symbolize sex (after marriage -purity- ), the real way, the real deal, the great stuff. Now the perverts symbolize, well the perverts in Guild Wars, its hard to keep your sights on a pure life if everbody around (and in game) talks about sex as a perverted thing. Within this game I have seen horny warriors, female characters selling their bodies (prostitutes), massive sex parties, and just about anytime someone says they are 12 years old someone in your district is bound to mention that he has *ahem* small... uh, stuff.
Try to stay with me here... If everyone was talking about your girl (going back to the story) that way, well first you would want to shoot them, then make it against the law!
Basicly saying, I'd like to think of sex in a good way, not happening easy when I play Guild Wars.
For some of us the issue is how i just put it. For others it is just inappropriate(sp?).
But there are also you people who are already perverts and just dont seem to care. If it doesnt bother you, what does that say? It says its not important to you.
And that is one of the reasons why this is an issue.
Think of it this way, If you knew this girl (or guy if you are a girl) that you really loved. You planned to marry her, your relationship wasn't just for messing around. This was real... Now the problem was, she was respectable, she thought the same out you, felt the same way, and she never once (or has changed since) had or had the intention to mess around with any guy, however, every person says something perverted about her. You end up in another state and there are these guys who dont even know her saying stuff about her and her "features". With this happening you find it very hard to keep her in your top most respect.
Now try to understand what I mean. The girl in this story will symbolize sex (after marriage -purity- ), the real way, the real deal, the great stuff. Now the perverts symbolize, well the perverts in Guild Wars, its hard to keep your sights on a pure life if everbody around (and in game) talks about sex as a perverted thing. Within this game I have seen horny warriors, female characters selling their bodies (prostitutes), massive sex parties, and just about anytime someone says they are 12 years old someone in your district is bound to mention that he has *ahem* small... uh, stuff.
Try to stay with me here... If everyone was talking about your girl (going back to the story) that way, well first you would want to shoot them, then make it against the law!
Basicly saying, I'd like to think of sex in a good way, not happening easy when I play Guild Wars.
For some of us the issue is how i just put it. For others it is just inappropriate(sp?).
But there are also you people who are already perverts and just dont seem to care. If it doesnt bother you, what does that say? It says its not important to you.
And that is one of the reasons why this is an issue.
PhineasToke
Regarding the post of Mercury Angel:
Why should I be responsible for saving AN any money? You still don't get it. I PAID to play the game, NOT to enforce AN/NC Soft's EULA. I've stopped trying to help. I've reported some of the most vile names imaginable, and those clows still show up playing on my friends list. You want me to police a game I paid for, pay me for the time involved.
Why should I be responsible for saving AN any money? You still don't get it. I PAID to play the game, NOT to enforce AN/NC Soft's EULA. I've stopped trying to help. I've reported some of the most vile names imaginable, and those clows still show up playing on my friends list. You want me to police a game I paid for, pay me for the time involved.
Savio
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Originally Posted by Axelia
The rating by ESRB is determined by the content that is in game and also public. ANet must regulate it so as they do not loose their rating. If they loose the teen rating they would be forced to recall all packages on the shelf so you can bet they are going to take action. Could it happen? YES There are several games that have been rerated due to complaints.
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Originally Posted by Arenanet
9. PARENTAL GUIDANCE
While NC Interactive may choose to monitor and take action upon inappropriate game play, chat or links to the Service, it is possible that at any time there may be language or other material accessible on or through the Service that may be inappropriate for children or offensive to some users of any age. NC Interactive cannot ensure that other players will not provide Content or access to Content that parents or guardians may find inappropriate or that any user may find objectionable. NC Interactive does not as a matter of policy pre-screen the content of the materials or communications transmitted by each player. NC Interactive reserves the right to enforce any or all of these rules at its sole discretion. |
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Originally Posted by RyuuTenshi
I'm quite sure I'm not the only one who's unhappy about how suggestive some things in Guild Wars can be.
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And Phineas, an online world is akin to the real world, like some people have already mentioned. You're not going to have any realistically reasonable way of removing every single person who violates the EULA. How can ANet police every single district, every single line of chat without charging a monthly fee or something? It's not just about cost, there would have to be hundreds of people working around the clock to maintain it.
I don't like any of this either, but I put up with it every day outside, just by ignoring it.
SOT
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Originally Posted by Linkie
If you find sex offensive you have issues :/
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I love common sense don't you?
Arturo02
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Originally Posted by Bast
That brings up a related topic: What is it with America being afraid of sex but in love with violence? The "Hot Coffee" outcry in GTA: San Andreas is just stupid. So, it's okay to shoot the police and steal cars and run people over but it's not okay to make love? What the hell? What is so horrible about the female breast that makes it more worthy of censorship than a guy getting disemboweled? Get your priorities straight, please.
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ManadartheHealer
This is a quote from TS. We were in Tombs, and one person on our team decides to unblock local:
"I just turned local back on, and, uh, what the hell?!?"
That pretty much says it all
"I just turned local back on, and, uh, what the hell?!?"
That pretty much says it all
PhineasToke
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Originally Posted by Savio
And Phineas, an online world is akin to the real world, like some people have already mentioned. You're not going to have any realistically reasonable way of removing every single person who violates the EULA. How can ANet police every single district, every single line of chat without charging a monthly fee or something? It's not just about cost, there would have to be hundreds of people working around the clock to maintain it.
I don't like any of this either, but I put up with it every day outside, just by ignoring it. |
I don't know what real world all of you live in, but I don't experience anything in my real world comparable to the in game world in GW. Not the dirty talk, swearing, or innuendo within the game. And I don't live in a small religous-driven town either. And when I have come across it in my world, I'm not the only one who asks they either shut up or leave.
There is no defense for this, no matter how hard some of you may try to rationalize it. It doesn't belong in the game, period. If I wanted to play an X rated game, I can probably buy one if I so choose. But Guild Wars is NOT my idea of fun dealing with these losers.
Arturo02
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Originally Posted by PhineasToke
I don't know what real world all of you live in, but I don't experience anything in my real world comparable to the in game world in GW. Not the dirty talk, swearing, or innuendo within the game.
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The funny thing is the words we think of as dirty was the result of the Normans hating the Anglo-Saxons. Go ahead and google it if you don't believe me.
Savio
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Originally Posted by Arturo02
it's all over the place. Maybe you are ignoring it and don't realize it.
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I understand if you don't like this Phineas, most of us don't either, we DON'T want this to exist. But with the world as it is today, and that there are a bunch of immature people playing this game, somewhere between the ages of 13-18, the fact is that trying to "tone it down" won't really work.
And just wondering, but have you seen any online game that successfully regulates all this? Because I haven't.
SJG
The anonymity of the internet removes most of the consequences of being offensive. There is nothing that can be done about it.
Language filters don't work, and they never can. The only thing that has even a slightest chance of working is moderation, but that is time-consuming and opens up other problems.
If you are easily offended or upset by coarse language then you'll have to find a way to get past it. Either that or stop playing, it's not right but it's the way it is.
Language filters don't work, and they never can. The only thing that has even a slightest chance of working is moderation, but that is time-consuming and opens up other problems.
If you are easily offended or upset by coarse language then you'll have to find a way to get past it. Either that or stop playing, it's not right but it's the way it is.
Old Dood
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Originally Posted by Savio
And just wondering, but have you seen any online game that successfully regulates all this? Because I haven't.
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They could regulate this problem. I have suggested before a Player Police Force. I know...I know I have heard it all on how it WILL NEVER WORK. But then again have they even tried this? It is not like the DEVs have NO idea of what players that can be trusted with this function. They have been in game, they have been here and other web forums. They have a pretty good idea from reading our posts here for example of what they can expect from a handfull of us.
The Idea of a Player Police Force should be at least considered in the future of online games. Anyone have a better idea? Can anyone build upon my idea? I know many of you can rip apart my idea, but can anyone Build on it?
They need a Sheriff to clean up this town....
Crowskie
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Originally Posted by PhineasToke
I don't know what real world all of you live in, but I don't experience anything in my real world comparable to the in game world in GW. Not the dirty talk, swearing, or innuendo within the game. And I don't live in a small religous-driven town either. And when I have come across it in my world, I'm not the only one who asks they either shut up or leave.
There is no defense for this, no matter how hard some of you may try to rationalize it. It doesn't belong in the game, period. If I wanted to play an X rated game, I can probably buy one if I so choose. But Guild Wars is NOT my idea of fun dealing with these losers. |
Based on the "..ask them to shut up and leave." comment, you seem to have a mentality I see alot where I live (Bible Belt state). If 10 people are in a room watching a movie, and person 'A' walks in and is offended by the language, person 'A' feels that because they dislike it, everyone else should as well, and the movie should be turned off. That is selfish. What should happen, is person 'A' should either deal with it, or leave. Phin, this isn't just directed at you. People who are cybering and all that crap in the local chat. If they want to do that in private, ok, but they are in the minority in that public setting. Like above, most people don't want to see that. They should either stop or leave.
People need to learn to respect eachother...
Sagius Truthbarron
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Originally Posted by Kaospryx
I agree with you as well. I think some of the worst places this happens, and I tend to see it all the time, is Competitions Arenas. Not inside the actual arenas, but just the lobby area on the map. It always seems to be filled with W/Mo's, asking every female character to take off their armor.
When the game first launched, conversing in local chat was actually enjoyable, since it gave people a chance to learn more about the game, or find a group to play with. Sadly, now, it's just filled with junk: trading, slander, and stupidity. |
Anet should make a behavioral policy that involves (Punishment wise) iron maidens, hooks and 38. pistols. That would clear up this mess.
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Alot of people say to the idea of a player police force "WELL! Then they would be able to banish people for no reason!": this is rediculous. Obviously Anet would set up a policy to suspend and ban missbehaving and power abusing guards.
I would think that anyone using that arguement just doesn't want things to be orderly. I mean, I'de just die if I went a day without drawing reproductive organs on the mini-map!!
Savio
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Originally Posted by Old Warrior Dood
No I haven't seen that. In fact this is my first true online game because I will not pay for a game then pay every month to play the game.
They could regulate this problem. I have suggested before a Player Police Force. I know...I know I have heard it all on how it WILL NEVER WORK. But then again have they even tried this? It is not like the DEVs have NO idea of what players that can be trusted with this function. They have been in game, they have been here and other web forums. They have a pretty good idea from reading our posts here for example of what they can expect from a handfull of us. The Idea of a Player Police Force should be at least considered in the future of online games. Anyone have a better idea? Can anyone build upon my idea? I know many of you can rip apart my idea, but can anyone Build on it? They need a Sheriff to clean up this town.... |
Also, I used to play Runescape before this...there was some content available for free, and $5 a month wasn't that bad. However, RS also has the same prostitute/swear/bad things problems, so I don't see how the OP thought that Guild Wars would magically solve this problem.
Makarei
Here is something also annoying, some occasions, silly people draw sexual images in the corner map of the screen when your in a mission with some people, so its not just chatting that the sexual talks are polluting.
Kampfkeks
It is getting worse...
saw a person state the following today
"Verkauft wer reife Frauen unter 12 Jahren für heißen Sex?" which translates into:
"Anyone selling mature women younger than 12 years for hot sex?"
Now this is something i won't and will never tolerate. I don't care much for the typical "i'm so uberhot and sexy, wanna cyber?" stuff. It is just ridiculous but spamming pedophile bullshit is something i won't be overlooking. Sending in a report by the second and will quit the game alltogether if that person doesn't get removed from the game permanently (added him onto the friendslist to see if he is online).
saw a person state the following today
"Verkauft wer reife Frauen unter 12 Jahren für heißen Sex?" which translates into:
"Anyone selling mature women younger than 12 years for hot sex?"
Now this is something i won't and will never tolerate. I don't care much for the typical "i'm so uberhot and sexy, wanna cyber?" stuff. It is just ridiculous but spamming pedophile bullshit is something i won't be overlooking. Sending in a report by the second and will quit the game alltogether if that person doesn't get removed from the game permanently (added him onto the friendslist to see if he is online).
trelloskilos
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Originally Posted by Linkie
If you find sex offensive you have issues :/
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Sex within certain criteria, such as on a game that is played by adults and children, is offensive. For all those who want to use GW to cyber, or to get kicks, I ask why? There are loads of sex sites online catering for just about every taste and fetish (AFAIK), and if you want to see a female character take off her clothes, why not make your own, go out into your own instanced area and strip and unstrip to your hearts content?
The reason why it's particularly offensive is that it is being done to OTHER characters. The options of visiting a website or having your own character take her clothes off doesn't do it for your typical perv. They want to make someone else do it for them. This is where lines are crossed, and offences are made.
Nokomis
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Originally Posted by Linkie
If you find sex offensive you have issues :/
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It ain't about whether sex is dirty or not, you moron.
I don't think the fact that you eliminate your bodily wastes on a daily basis is BAD, but I would rather you didn't do it all over my computer.
--Nokomis
Denny Pace
The in-game society in GW is not a whole lot different than the in-game society for many other games, especially RPGs, or society at large. In the end, Anet is in the business to develop this game, and that is the best use of their resources. Of course, they will respond to reports, deal with cheaters, spammers and the like. But if anyone thinks that they will be able to rid the game of every person who does something that some other person finds offensive, they are highly mistaken. It's just like RealLife(tm) in that regard.
That being said, the next guy that comes up behind my female W/N and does the 'hump dance' is gonna get smacked...
That being said, the next guy that comes up behind my female W/N and does the 'hump dance' is gonna get smacked...
Nokomis
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Originally Posted by Bast
What is it with America being afraid of sex but in love with violence? The "Hot Coffee" outcry in GTA: San Andreas is just stupid. So, it's okay to shoot the police and steal cars and run people over but it's not okay to make love? What the hell? What is so horrible about the female breast that makes it more worthy of censorship than a guy getting disemboweled? Get your priorities straight, please. |
For some of us, the issue with GTA was never the sex. I am with you on the weirdness in America where killing is cool but sex isn't. Blame our weirdo puritan ancestors, I guess. But I HATE how the company that made GTA:SA made that content and then left it in there and then lied and tried to pretend they didn't. How lame is that? Geeze, own up to what you did and take a stand.
--Nokomis
Shadowsting
It's quite immature, I agree......Last night, in PvP, I played against a character named "Cucking Funt." You get used to it, but it usually says quite a bit about the players themselves.
PhineasToke
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Originally Posted by Shadowsting
It's quite immature, I agree......Last night, in PvP, I played against a character named "Cucking Funt." You get used to it, but it usually says quite a bit about the players themselves.
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It also says volumes about their parenting too. We can't change that, but these sorry excuses for families are where it comes from. If their attitude towards women and the need to express themselves through profanity and gratoutous sexual innuendo isn't learned, then tell me what gene it comes from.
Arturo02
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Originally Posted by PhineasToke
It also says volumes about their parenting too. We can't change that, but these sorry excuses for families are where it comes from. If their attitude towards women and the need to express themselves through profanity and gratoutous sexual innuendo isn't learned, then tell me what gene it comes from.
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SOT
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Originally Posted by Nokomis
For some of us, the issue with GTA was never the sex. I am with you on the weirdness in America where killing is cool but sex isn't. Blame our weirdo puritan ancestors, I guess. But I HATE how the company that made GTA:SA made that content and then left it in there and then lied and tried to pretend they didn't. How lame is that? Geeze, own up to what you did and take a stand.
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Originally Posted by Savio
so I don't see how the OP thought that Guild Wars would magically solve this problem.
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It is a GAME.
Someone typing /dance against me if I am afk and them being naked does not truly impact my life in the slightest, and they waste time, neurons, and energy on guys like me, who couldn't care less if cybersex was an in-game quest item! For those that do care, you need a serious lesson in 'apathy'.
I have read all of the 'suggestions' and none of them make any sense to me. Why make this so god damn complicated? Just ignore the morons. Go OUTSIDE town and do stuff. Stay where they cannot reach.
And for the love of cheese sandwhiches, who HONESTLY has a legitimate use for local chat anyway. I fear more of you succumb to 'morbid curiosity' and then don't like what you hear
Savio
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Originally Posted by SOT
I have read all of the 'suggestions' and none of them make any sense to me. Why make this so god damn complicated? Just ignore the morons. Go OUTSIDE town and do stuff. Stay where they cannot reach.
And for the love of cheese sandwhiches, who HONESTLY has a legitimate use for local chat anyway. I fear more of you succumb to 'morbid curiosity' and then don't like what you hear |
Obus
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Originally Posted by Makkert
...or is this the drawing of genitals on the minimap i see often, and i'm being cybered while I wasn't aware this was cyberring?..
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Anraeth
One of my pet peeves is females taking their armor off. Im a guy, but i never do that with my female characters. And regarding cursing, i keep it out of public, but i never use any racist comments. If anyone ever says they are offended that is in the channel, it stops there.
I cant agree with you guys more on this.
I cant agree with you guys more on this.
zehly
There is an easy solution. Don't you see it? Just give them a place to trash talk. Like a "ignorant-12-year-old" channel or something. *BOOM*
Aniewiel
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Originally Posted by zehly
There is an easy solution. Don't you see it? Just give them a place to trash talk. Like a "ignorant-12-year-old" channel or something. *BOOM*
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Just stay outside towns and turn off the public chat...though I find that annoying.
SOT
The other sad thing I forgot to mention was the double standard inherent in this debate on both sides.
Deny it all day, you know it exists.
Deny it all day, you know it exists.
ducktape
I agree that cybering/sex talk/excessive swearing should be kept off of the public channel. If it's ok to do whenever you feel like it, including in public, I'd like to see these people try it at work or at school or in a crowded store; it's just not acceptable except when you do these things in a non-public place and/or in the sole company of people you know.
That said, I don't understand why they let us remove our armor and run around in underwear. If armor didn't come off, perverts wouldn't hope to see what's underneath it. And why, after so many complaints and examples of its misuse, they have not modified the dance and drum emotes to make it not look like people are humping each other? The emotes are a cool idea but they need to be tweaked a little. I keep the local channel off all the time, and it's annoying to still have strangers run up and try to bang me while I'm shopping at the trader or whatever. It's hard to get away from everything perpetrated by weirdos.
Thank god there's the guild hall to loiter in...
That said, I don't understand why they let us remove our armor and run around in underwear. If armor didn't come off, perverts wouldn't hope to see what's underneath it. And why, after so many complaints and examples of its misuse, they have not modified the dance and drum emotes to make it not look like people are humping each other? The emotes are a cool idea but they need to be tweaked a little. I keep the local channel off all the time, and it's annoying to still have strangers run up and try to bang me while I'm shopping at the trader or whatever. It's hard to get away from everything perpetrated by weirdos.
Thank god there's the guild hall to loiter in...
fuzzybulldozer
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I honestly thought that GW would be one of the few games that would keep a tight reign on sex talk in the chat channels. It's becoming very difficult to even hook up for a quest let alone attempt to buy items for sale without having the foulest most profane dirt out there for all to see. The "usual suspects" comments to turn off the open channel doesn't wash. I shouldn't have to do that under any circumstances. And the interesting ways the great unwashed get around the filters makes me wonder why there are filters at all.
This game doesn't need dirt flung out for all to see, especially those of us who think that this game is for playing, not for adolescent fantasy to be played out when their parents can't see what they are doing. And those adults who participate should be ashamed. And don't tell me to "file a complaint". It doesn't work. I didn't pay my money for this crap, and I certainly don't think AN or NCS want it to continue at the expense of losing players. |
AeroLion
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your name is phineas TOKE. somehow you dont seem like the type to be offended by this kind of thing
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DFrost
I usually don't care, but yesterday when we were "waiting" for the Frog in Lion's Arch int1, the spam and racism got so over the top that I've never seen anything like it before. Me and someone else started casually discussing reporting methods and account suspension, that shut them up pretty quick.
DarkWasp
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Originally Posted by ducktape
Thank god there's the guild hall to loiter in...
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Speaking of witch, when someone is all nasty and perverted. Its always fun to leave an indirect insult, then leave the district for 15 minutes, just to see all hell broke loose.
dargon
Heh, I prefer to remain and watch the storm develop 
Seriously though, i agree with the gist of this thread. There are a lot of 'immature children' (mentally, not necessarily physically) playing this game. It's time for the dev's to step iun with the big padded CLUEBAT and give these people one. Obviously it would take a small army to police each and every outpost 24/7 so thats not likely to happen, but they should have 3 or 4 people who randomly wander around, checking for this crap who are able to hand out 24 hour suspensions for it. Someone being a dumbass in chat would get the point I think if they suddenly lost connection, only to return to a sign that says "You now have 23 hrs and 57 minutes of suspension left, go outside and see the real sun, because you won't be seeing the ones in here for a day". Repeated offences would be tracked by the system and the punishment could escalate accordingly, say double for each detected offence (1,2,4,8,etc) till it hits a limit and goes, so long loser, spend $50 for a new chance to screw up.
Seriously though, i agree with the gist of this thread. There are a lot of 'immature children' (mentally, not necessarily physically) playing this game. It's time for the dev's to step iun with the big padded CLUEBAT and give these people one. Obviously it would take a small army to police each and every outpost 24/7 so thats not likely to happen, but they should have 3 or 4 people who randomly wander around, checking for this crap who are able to hand out 24 hour suspensions for it. Someone being a dumbass in chat would get the point I think if they suddenly lost connection, only to return to a sign that says "You now have 23 hrs and 57 minutes of suspension left, go outside and see the real sun, because you won't be seeing the ones in here for a day". Repeated offences would be tracked by the system and the punishment could escalate accordingly, say double for each detected offence (1,2,4,8,etc) till it hits a limit and goes, so long loser, spend $50 for a new chance to screw up.