Recommendations for developers of Guildwars

I understand from guildwar's support, that the developers sometimes scan these forums for ideas, so I am posting some recommendations for the programmer team of Guildwars for their future updates, expansions or sequels to the GuildWars world (and also for other readers so that they can post their ideas on these recommendations). Me and several of my friends think this is an awesome game (a triumph in programming) but we have also played Guildwar's competitors as well and there are few things that could be really helpful on the next update/expansion/sequel of guildwars. Here is our recommendations we have put together.

1. More skill shortcuts (not just 8). Since the skills are based of the 1-8 keys, I recommend the developers should allow one or two more skills to be armed during missions using the xtra # keys available (There are two more # keys not being utilized, 9 & 0). It's a huge downer to have so many skills but with very limited access to them during game play. For example, in neverwinter nights you can arm all f1-f12 keys and you can hit a shift button bring up completely different set of memorized spells/skills for f1-f12 and thats on top of 3rd set of 12 shortcut spell/ability keys (thats 36 programmable slots for powers/spells). I’m not saying you need that many but at least one or two more would be really great for this particular game.

2. Allow skills changes in the middle of missions by using rest periods. This would be similar to setting up camp so you would not be able to do this in the middle of battle or when enemies are xtremely close by or when you in a timed mission (This is also an idea from similar games). This would give character more flexibility with skills in mid mission. There have been quite a few times we have gotten into mid mission and found that we did not properly prepare for a new type of enemy (no problem if you can rest and change your skills). It’s not unrealistic to camp just outside of enemy lines and prepare properly for the attack after observing the enemy (This is very logical).

3. Some of the character/enemy special abilities, spells, etc, when used need a little more eye candy graphics during battle. For instance, if I am fighting a white dragon, it would really neat to see an actually ice breath weapon come out of dragons mouth and hit the party in cone shaped arch (not just physical attack/movements with some glowing skin?). Or if I used a fireball for an elementatlist for example, I actually see fireball fly out from the caster’s location and explode into a radius effect around the targeted area engulfing the enemy in fire. There are quite a few character/enemy attacks that I expect to see more visuals during battle but quite often I just see damage numbers popping up telling me the enemy took damage. This isn’t a huge problem- the games graphics make up for this in other areas (in fact there are some really awesome graphics in the game- especially for characters and scenery), however; it would be a very nice additive for the battle portion of the game to have a tad bit more visual flash. When you get a new spelllike skill, you get excited and use it, then visually nothing much happens but damage numbers (It kinda puts damper on the games spirit a tad bit). If you look at other RPG games, they invest quite a bit more in attack power/spell visuals in battle making all that work getting the new powers worth it.

We really appreciate the work the programmers have put into this game already. We just want to help with the future development of one of the best RPG games on the market….

Jarrod…

/wrong forum section.

/constructive non-the-less.

/cheers.

1) Why not the # keys 1-9+0?

2) Agreed, I forget sometimes to add a skill, very annoying

3) Agreed, I used fireball, bt no ball!

1. Bad suggestion. There are some balance problems as is but once NR gets nerfed this would lead to mesmers being invincible. Right now they can shut down any one thing or be energy denial for everyone. With your suggestion they could do all of that.

2. Wohoo! Lets scout our opponents in g v g so we can change our build to directly counter theirs. We'll have matches of people refusing to attack eachother because no one wants the other team to be able to change around.

3. This is a decent suggestion, but look at the system requirement. Right now it doesn't take much of a gfx card to run GW.

He said mission.

Not sure what the complaint is about skill shortcut. You can customize it to fit your needs. Note that H and C both do the same thing, and not all keys do something. Just need to tweak it to your preference.

It would be nice to change skills. I know in the FoW, it's annoying when I can't make a well out of any skeletons (and they would really help at times). If they did that, however, I feel it only fair that they remove the use of attribute points unless you're in town. 24 attribute points to play with, 5k exp at least from missions... would make it far too easy.

Oh how some graphical improvements would be nice. Shouts actually showing the radius of effect would be great. How about an actual phoenix as well?

Adding some visual effects would be nice, but first I think they'd need to remove the unecessary effects that they already have. You know, the ones that start filling your whole screen and you can't find your mouse cursor mid-battle?

1. Bad idea. Maybe for a later expansion.
2. Never, never and never! You simply suck or doesn't know how to play this game. You just have to find a way to make your way things.
3. Maybe...

If you could change you skills in the middle of something, that would makes things allot easier, which is bad. The idea of only having 8 set skills to bring into areas is that you have to choose something that is either good for all situation, or good for your specific one, if you could just change your skills in the middle of an area then you would always have what you needed.

INCORRECT! Check again, none of the skills are linked to the F keys. Those are for switch out weapon sets or checking your inventory, options, or even logging out. F10 is the only one that is linked to nothing. Do you even play this game, or are you possibly thinking of another game?

Best you could do here is add 2 more skills with the 9 and 0 keys, and besides that, have 24 skills would be insanely overpowering in THIS game. It migt work for others, but not here.

It IS unrealistic to camp inside a mission and swap out your skills though. You can't tell me that you can't find 8 decent skills for your character to get you through an entire mission. This is an attempt to design the game around the way YOU play, without regarding how the game is DESIGNED.

Seeing as this is a free game to play (after initial purchase) and seeing how the number of servers is probably limited, it would be unwise to load the game down with incredible graphical changes as you propose. The more you have to load in, the more it will lag down your game. Incredible graphics might be pretty, but unless you had a sweet machine to run it on, you'd be left in the dust.

I have to /disagree with all of these suggestions.

In response to comments against resting and changing skills above.......
I think that if the skills are going to be limited to 8 (I suggested to add on or two more), there should be at least some ability to change skills in mid mission (Which will require rest-similar to how a wizard would rest to recoup spells in standard Dungeons & Dragon terms for example, etc). The reason is simple why I still say this- You fight you way up to something that takes 3 hours of gameplay and then look over the horizon and find most everthing now is mostly immune to what you've been using (or you find you really need something you just didn't place in a skill slot and it has now been killing you and the guys working with you not to have it in the last few fights). In the senario above this is new territory which is hard to prepare for. Do you want die miserably and play all 3 hours of gameplay again to be prepared next time which waste everyones time including yours-- NOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!! I say fight and clean out an area into a quite covey whole and camp. Get that resurrect power you need equipped, prepare the elemental spells this enemy isn't immune to, etc. And when I say you need to clean out an area to rest, you really need to do it, or the rest period will be interrupted by nearby enemies (I didn't say this was going to be easy thing to get rest and allow you to change the skills, it would be a challenge like everything else in the game).-- But at least you have an option that will allow you to change skills in mid mission without restarting and without wasting time. I myself can only play the game so often, and when I play, I like making the most of it without rehashing unneccesarily and also be able to use those odd ball skills that come in handy only once in while (Time does not grow on trees for me personally I like making the most of it). Some of the skills really are specific and since monsters can change in mid mission it really makes since to give you the opportunity to change your skills as well. Being able to change skills will most likey only give you a "small advantage" in most cases but it may be enough to survive and complete the mission. I really don't think that is a game spoiler, more of game enhancer in my opinion.

P.S. During the proprosed rest periods, you can change kill point assigments as well (I agree with that)....

P.S. For those who replied above without using demeaning commentary (Like "you suck" for example) thank you for being decent human beings (not matter if you agree with me or not)....


Jarrod...

Oops, Sorry about the keys I designated earlier for skill slots, you are correct-- it is the 1-8 numbers (I mistakenly said the F keys). Yes I think the 9 and/or 0 key should be added allowing one or two more skills to be equipped. I went thru all the postings an corrected my mis references to avoid futher confusion. Thanks....

On the graphics, actually I have seen some interesting graphics on skills that don't screw up the game play which I don't have a problem with. What I am saying is that if some of these spells can have a little flash, so can others..

2 is ok, even in PvP
there is a long lists of reason behine this.. too lazy to post

the main argument is to counteract paper-rock-sessior effect. chance is winning should not only be pre-determined before the mission.

win gvg often so u can flame those game developers face to face (one of my dreams)

i like the idea of a couple more skill slots, at least one for an signet of capture and its caped skill and another for a normal signet....even if they were *JUST* for those two and/or the ranger skill charm pet and comfort animal, it would give you rom to work more.

i find that i have to leave pets behind or signets because i need usefull skills with me, and i bet a lot of rangers find the same too. letting us have 2 extra slots would free up 2 more usefull skills

oh, and i would say, lets use the numeric pad for a stash of quick-slots for /emote comands or talk comands....
yeah, i know, the seller/buyer market will just customise the to spamm us, but if it has WTS/WTB/WTT in it, it could auto-defalt to the comerce chat...
and yeah, i also know that the emote spammers will set up /dance and the rest to there, but.....i can turn off the lines of emote talk and still *see* the emotes, i leave it turned off as standard, but a short cut to your most used emotes is a definate if you wana try RolePlaying while in a mission or at a guild hall.

with a short cut to /bow and/laugh and other not funny but usefull emote commands, i can at least pretend to roleplay a little

You won't see serious resistances or enemy skils that seriously restrict your skillbar until the southern shiverpeak missions. By that time, however, you should have a party size of 8. If not one of your 8 party members brought along a set of skills to deal with a certain circumstance, then you most definitely deserved to lose for not setting up a balanced party. Eight skill slots is more than enough for any situation. This is a team game. No single player should have the versatility to handle everything. Between your entire team, you'd have 4x8=32 skills in ascalon, 6x8=48 skills through the desert, and 8x8=64 skills for the rest of the game. All those skill slots are more than enough to deal with EVERY and ANY situation. All it takes is a bit of planning when building your party. Or, if you're too lazy to piece together a decent party, just grab henchmen.

No. You should bring the ressurect power or designate someone on your team to be the ressurector before entering the mission if you plan on dying. No single enemy is immune to any particular element. They might be resistant, but NEVER immune. If your firestorms are doing half damage agains the fire giants, then just have your warriors go up and whack them or pin then down while the ranger on your team slams down a winter. Don't go into a mission with one element that the enemy will probably be resistant to. (Hmm... Ring of *FIRE*... These guys walk around on lava and burning brimstone all day long... I wonder what element they're resistant to...)


You don't have to restart. You won't NEED to restart. Just take that extra five minutes to build up a decent and balanced party. If you STILL die with a balanced party, then a different skill bar probably wouldn't have saved you anyway.


Plan everything ahead of time. Take five minutes before entering the game to get a good and balanced party together before you go.

It sounds like you think this game is like Neverwinter Nights, when you can prepare yourself before every battle. This notion is very much wrong. Guild Wars is a team game. Whatever weaknesses or inflexibilities your character has is not offset by the ability to prepare before every battle, but by the strength of your fellow teammates. So in response to your idea of "resting" or being allowed to carry more skill slots, such suggestions would destroy the mission statement of the game and allow one character to shine in every situation.

Actually I agree with mithie that more skill slots or - even worse - ability to change skills in instanced areas is bad. It encourages bad planning, it encourages lazy strategical thinking, and god knows we're all fed up with lazy players.

The whole game system is designed to be played with 8 skills at a time. Since everything is balanced around this, expanding this limit would make some skills that require support from other skills much much more usable; 3 and 4 skills combo would be easier to implement (since you have still 6-7 other skills for other situations); classes that heavily use one-only skills (like ranger's preps, for instance) will be less useful - in short, the whole system would have to be rebalanced. This, just to allow people to be lazier in their strategical planning.

No, I don't agree with more slots. I'd rather not have "skill changing during missions", either - can you picture groups wanting to rest every 2 minutes to reassign skills? It would take years to complete a mission.

Your third suggestion is good, and I'm quite sure that the devs will consider it... if possible. They keep improving the icons and small things anyway, so they might as well change some visual effects. This game is absolutely gorgeous as it is, but who would say we wouldn't like more drama in the effects?

Oh and while we're at it... what about different voices or different professions in the FMV? As it is, we've got one for female characters and one for male... I'd like to hear different voices Just a cosmetic idea.

Or appropriate music while the cutscenes are playing. The scepter or Orr got stolen? OH NOES! >Cue dramatic and mysterious organ music.

Someone good died? OH NOES! >Cue tear jerking violin solo.

To Mithies response above..
I Agree a little that the flow of the game with mulitple players would be more fluid probably without rest periods (also, you would have a reliance on diversity of the party). However, I don't totally agree that one player would shine beyond the rest per say due to multiple classes involved. To be honest, If I had to pick the most profound argument from what I posted originally between "rest periods" and xtra skills, it would probably be to add 2 more skill slots (slightly less headache to others from what I am reading in the replies and you get the xtra verstility anyway). This would allow you to be a little more diversified and equip at least one-two odd ball skills rarely used as a backup or other things. Most of my skill slots are taken up by attack/defense powers as it probably is for most people I believe. Like the guy stated above you, you can use the slots for signet rings only if you like (like the stealing ring power that does nothing but steal powers from boses). That way it really isn't giving the big advtange, it just keep from rehashing a battle becuase you didn't have it equipped (because you're to afraid not to equip something you really needed to keep you ALIVE! as opposed to the odd ball skill or ring). If we did the xtra two skill slots at least, I could probably let the "rest in the middle of mission" argument go.

Jarrod

I subscribe to the idea that you should be able to change your skills during a mission. You have very soon a hole set of skills, but you can only equip when you are in a town. As if your character is a combat machine which you have to equip proper, for the right mission. But my character is a skilled virtual person in a fantasy world, not a combat-machine. A skill is a talent, a capacity, you have earned it somehow, and you have it all the time. I don't have to go back to my house to get my skill to swimm, when I go out swimming on a hot day.
Okay, game designers have decided to make things this way. Well, you can take a awesom load of weapons, armour and whatsoever with you, quick change in battle, and run and fight with it. Why can it with stuff and not with skills?
The capture-signet is a good example. Normally I do not equip it. You are not sure you can use it, and it contributes not to the fighting power of the team. When I see a boss, I go back later with a henchmen-team. Then the boss isn't there. That is sort of grinding. Let us capture the skills, when we make a kill. Or put npc's in town who give you information about bosses. Instead of having to read forums and walkthru's.
If you can change skills in mission, you don't need more skill-slots.
I add some personal remarks. I only refer to PVE, that is the game I play. I do not often change skills. I try to make things work for any occasion. When it comes to teamwork, everybody should have his/her task and speciality; this guy takes care of this, that one of that etc. That is the way things should work, I suppose.

This is where I disagree with you. There are no "oddball skills" in GW. There are only skills which complement other skills on your skillbar. For example, the mesmer hex "Fragility" might seem like an oddball skill. Does damage only when they're conditioned? Hmm... Sounds kinda useless, right? Well, what if I put Fragility on my skill bar plus 4 or 5 other skills that DO cause condition, many of those would be considered "oddball skills" too? Slap in a res signet and I'm good to go with my build.

In summation: if a skill seems like an oddball skill, just surround it with a combination of skills that would make the oddball skill useful.

The signet of capture offers you the power of potentially having TWO elite powers on your power bar AT THE SAME TIME!!! Well worth the skill slot, I think.

You're loading your skill bar with attack and defense skills? That's where you're going wrong. There are many roles in GW. Those roles include damager, interruptor, anti-caster, damage prevention, damage reduction, buff, hex, tanking (in PvE only), health-to-energy conversion, energy-to-health conversion, spiking, sustained dps, etc, etc. The game is setup such that you can only relegate yourself to ONE of these roles. If you're having both attack and defense skills on your skillbar, then you're not playing out your role to the maximum. Find the role your character is good at then load him/her up with the skills which support that role to its fullest. That's Guild Wars. If you're a guy whose role is to deal out damage, let the guy on your team whose role is damage prevention or damage recovery to keep yourself alive. That's his job.


The only thing you need to keep you and your team alive is your teammate specializing in doing just that.

Mithie,
Sorry, you may get me to covert somewhat on your against "rest in midmission" idea, but not the xtra two skills idea. When I say attack and defense I ment actualy pretty much "Everything"... You are either hindering an opponent, or you protecting/helping yourself or others (Defense) no matter how you really look at the class or skill in battle (not be technical here)... Doesn't matter if you mesmer or not or if you combining skills or not... As far as the skill slots, like I said, you coud put a restriction on those slots for just signet rings if you think its to much but I still want a little more flexibility. Most Rpg games can allow anywhere for 24 to 36 quick slots for powers. Heck, all I am asking here is two more slots (at total of 10) here people (even with restrictions if you like for only signet rings)- give me a break Mithie- I certainly am trying to meet you half here already in this argument, I can't really give you anymore than that from my standpoint... Also keep in mind that everyone get this potential including allies and enemies I presume. So its not like my "EGO" is going to be massaged by "ME" getting two more slots and me designing the whole game around me (As someone else has also indicated in a previous most- not Mithie- not indicated to you). I just want to have a little more flexibility...

Unlike other RPGs, GW is a game where teamwork trumps everything else.

There's no reason for you to be flexible. You're there to deal with one specific situation.

Your teammates are there to deal with everything else.

jalday:
-- sig of capture is very powerful, and the tradeoff is important. It's part of the risk in going on capture missions.
-- This is not an RPG. The point in GW is the PvE/PvP being linked together. PvE is what you're looking at. If it were an RPG, it would be like EQ, WoW, or whatever, with lots of weird items, stuff to do and so on. GW PvE revolves around 2 things: unlock skills, unlock items. After that, it's make your build, kill the opponent. simple? yep. But fun for years if you ask me. There's no place in this game concept for dozens of skills, and it's not about "shortcuts" - it was a clean decision on the game devs part.

Mithie: I don't agree on flexibility - every character has a role, not just a specific situation. Damage dealing is the easiest role, so incredibly in GW the warrior is not the easiest character, the elementalist is. But one single situation is narrowing it a bit too much in my opinion. Still, if there were 10 skill, someone would want 15 - it's bound to happen. Me too would like more skills at times but... hey. I wouldn't have so much fun

IMHO.

1.) It has the right amount of skills now, you have to plan
2.) Part of the challenge, making due with what you have... I have to say this doesn't fit very well within the game play
3.) I 100% agree... I'd love to have some awesome graphics on my new spells, attacks, besides just damage #'s. This is the one area of the game that really disappoints.

1) Ok everyone who wants to change the skill slots needs to get this through their heads: Anet thought through this heavily. They made 8 for the strategy and that the skills you chose would hopefully work together (which hopefully they do.)

2) No. This whole idea is far fetched and unrealistic for the way the game was designed: Strategy.

3) Sure why not, but does it really matter?

Alright, about #3, how about this?

Devs: If you ever find yourself at a slow day of work, when you're done with everything you could possibly find the real need to do, and it's either find something to do or die of boredom, then maybe you could give us a few flashy animations.

um, as far as i know, you are only alowed ONE elite skill in your skill bar at a time.

so its ether a sigent of capture or the skill itself.

and, unless you 100% KNOW exactly what your going up against, how are you going to know what skills to take? sure, take your standard skill bar and die, then learn from it, but sometimes, you dont get to go back to that area/mission ect for a while.

as to everyone else in the team is there to deal with everyting else....how they gona do that when they are all monks, nukers and tanks mostly?
sure, some tieams take one of each class when they can, and a spare takn and spare healer, but most teams just take tnks/healers and nukers in missions...

(though, personaly, i would like to see them HAVE to take more than just the big three)

Nope. You can get both. Carry an elite and the signet, and as soon as you capture it, you'll have both elites on your skillbar for the rest of the mission. For example, I had Grenth's Balance when I entered Hell's Precipice. Along the way, I capped Aura of the lich. I used the two elites together and did 800 damage to <boss> in one hit.

One of our guys has a shot of having 4 elites on his skillbar. You can get even higher of course, if you run around capping skills like mad. Makes you feel like trying to get 8 on there at once... Hmmmm

good to know, then...

ok, maybe spots to rest in <large> missions and maps, then. places that you need to stop for a few mins while you slog through to wait while someone takes a pee break or nips downstairs for a rumage in the fridge/cupords for a snack. some maps are hard to do first time round without a snac or two, or bathroom break.

I am not to the SoC point yet. But are you saying that you can put as many SoCs in your skillbar as you want? And then capture whatever you want? And the limit to elites in your skillbar only takes effect when you are adding skills from your list in town?

I imagine that this cannot be, it would offer all of the huge imbalances that the game is trying to protect against.

Or are you referring to using a buddy's elite? That's still only 2.

Back to the original post.
1. No
2. No
3. If it doesn't cause lag, or increase system req's for those on the lower end, fine. If so, I don't want it. I would rather have more people to play with/vs with little to no lag.

Matt

Yeah number 3 is good. When I do some skills like conjure lighting I think... why isnt my axe engulfed in lightning? same goes for conjure flame and frost. I don't know about your other ideas though.

Ok so your point is you want one role and high specialization. Don't you think one role is boring? Don't you want to have more than one role?

One role = pre-determined = no option = boring

It's not boring. There's plenty of option: YOU GET TO PICK THE ROLE.

As far as character always being boxed in a specific role, I don't agree with that perception either. The issue has come about many times in gameplay for me where a specific person you are relying on to be a healer, mesmer, etc becomes disabled (killed, tiedup, hindered, etc) --It just happens sometimes, despite all the strategy in the world. In these cases, the backup skills from secondary profession need to be there for other players (even if its one or two skills- examples a fighter/monk should have access to that one heal spell or resurrect spell, that elementalist/mesmer should have that backup spell remove a hex or enchantment spell depending on the scenario). After playing this game for awhile, I have found that even one more skill slot would allow me utilize a decent backup skill from my secondary class. Mithie is correct that people do general focus more heavily in one area with their 8 slots (usually there primary class). I know when I use an elementalist, I usually end of foregoing the xtra mesmer power that I would like to have, because I end up focusing the slots on the damaging/disabling attacks of the elementalist (That’s just for elementalist obviously, but that is one particular example). I have talked to everyone in my guild and they all would like an xtra slot or two (They also usually end up forgoing at least one or two skills they would really like to have but it’s importance is slightly overshadowed (and I mean slightly) by their mainstay choices. I understand the reliance on other member of the party “argument”, but even still, you sometimes have to rely on yourself if the battle goes arry- it is not a perfect setup (this is just reality guys, I am not trying to setup someone to take all the glory either).... I see that some of you are afraid the game will get out of control with xtra slots beyond 8. With this in mind, I think if the developers would at least allow 9 slots that would probably satisfy me and everyone involved without it being over the top for the argument against it (I still like 10 though myself). That would be 9 totally open slots to do what you want (no restrictions). The other reason behind this (Besides diversity) it just plan "Fun". If you can do a little more, things become more interesting as well in combat. I gets a little agitating for me after a while to be slightly boxed/restricted and always leaving out that xtra skill you wanted to take (After doing many combination testing, this tends to be the most common case for me and others and they leave out an additional skill that would have a nice flavor to the characters powers). Once again were not talking about 30 skills, just one additional skill slot, so this shouldn’t be such a killer to game play, but wrather an enhancement –and shouldn’t be a major issue to the play of the game for those arguing against it for slots..

Jarrod

On the graphics. I probably would not want tons of lag problems myself from adding buku skill graphics, but I have seen some decent graphics on some powers which don't intefere with gameplay but yet other powers don't have hardly any???. Lets take "firestorm" which is one of the first spells you get as an elementalist which is decent graphics: It shoots a flame ball up in the air and comes down on the enemy in a rain of fire (exactly what I would expect to see, and no lag issues- perfect). Now take fireball which you get much later in the game which does more damage in a shor period of time, a spell I had to really work for: No fireball emits from caster and mainly just damage #s just appear in the area effect (A very light sparkle of fire in the area effect which is almost not noticable its so faint). Its almost like going backwards sorta.... But anyway, I think all the devs would need to do is review the powers add a little spice to the visual effect (Not a ton, but a little I think would be tolerable and please the players quite a bit-- "A little goes a long way" as the old saying goes.

Jarrod.

Thats true for me as well, when I am playing with others in guild wars we do take a few breaks in the game (especially on long missions)- this is a good time to be allowed to set camp and fiddle with skills while others are gabbing some grub, using bathroom, etc. In other online games I have played similar to this one, we do usually setup camp when we take breaks (Each individual person can setup camp or simply stand there in neverwinter for example as long as the area has been cleared of enemies). Now that you mention this, I really don't think it would be that big a deal or so unfamiliar a concept for even a game like GuildWars to have this functionality in the game. If I could choose, I would say the developers should allow "setup of camp" and allow one xtra skill slot- That would be really be cool and reduce frustation of rehashing areas so much or missing some really good opportunities to utilize those xtra skills you have available. Due to lower flexibilitly in this game, I usually opt out to equip the most easily appliable/versatile skills (non specific) for missions simply because I want to be effective in battle no matter how the monsters change as the missions continues or who we run into (you have to, you only have 8 slots and you can't rest to change them in mid mission to compensate for change in the enemy). Due to this, your character is sorta boxed into his/her specific role with less opportunities of utilizing their selection of skills (no matter if there are 500 skills to select from). Again, if we can change skills in camp we should be able to change skill point allocation as well just like you can in a city (There really shouldn't be any difference here between camp site and the city for what you can change on your personal character).

Jarrod..

This is exactly what I am refering to... This isn't asking for to much I think for this special effect to be added by the developers (It makes the game and combat in general more fun)..


Jarrod

THis isn't Dungeons and Dragons nore is it Neverwinter Nights or other malarky single player RPGs. This is a coop game and you should discuss what would be the optimum skills to bring before the mission (they are already too easy).

Though I wouldn't be opposed to a Rez Sig always slot added so that idiots who never bring a rez sig would always have one. That's all the slot would ever be and no other skill could ever be added to it.

If you gonna give your opinion on a game, I don't have a problem with it (that's what we're all doing here anyway), but at least know some basic facts about the games I'm referring to before you do. When I've made references to other games in comparison to GuildWars they have all been muliplayer online as well so the comparison is as fair as possible. I believe people have been getting confused about why I made some earlier comparisons to guildwars thinking that I am comparing this game to a single player game and then freaking out about it without really understanding my point. Let me clear up this confusion once and for all. I used "Neverwinter Nights" as a common comparison in particular because it has about the same # of online players that can play together (2-8 players that can play Coop) depending on the module you use without other online players being involved in the missions- does this sound familar to you yet? It should? So no it's not just a one player game, in fact it's much funner to play coop with others in my opinion. I emphasize the word "coop" here because thats exaclty what it is-- So hopefully people can stop mentioning this in their posts as if I don't know what the word "coop" means somehow . Also neverwinter has similar multiclass components such as fighter/priest, mage/fighter, ranger/mage, necromancer/ranger and so forth. Some of the other massive multiplayer games can form massive parties like warcraft which really isn't a good comparison to guildwars because guildwars (and neverwinter) has party size limitations and the mission is dedicated to that party only (there are no other online players free roaming in your missions). This is another reason I singled out neverwinter as my mainstay comparison. I also realize that none of these games are the exact same as guildwars (not even neverwinter), but it is the same genre type. Guildwars has its on uniqueness which doesn't blend with any other game on the market but the basic element/principle does (Which is a dungeons & dragons style fantasy online mulitplayer game). An when I say "dungeons & dragons" style game, I mean a genre of fantasy type games that ride closely to this theme (Dwarfs, hydras, dragons, rangers, priest types, magic users types, and so forth) -but of course with a uniqueness twist to its own world because GuildWars does have some different race, creature, and class components which are outside of mainstream D&D fantasy.

Jarrod.