Debate on Gore
Tur713
There's been such a debate on it, that I decided to add a thread about it. What do you guys thing about gore being added in the game?
BlackArrow
I have no problem with it. As long as it doesn't get added to the point of it being comical. On the other hand, the game is awesome without it and gore really woulnd't inhance my GW experince at all.
MOOMANiBE
Pointless, and would probably increase the ESRB rating of the game (therefore possibly decreasing sales)... I'd say no.
Weezer_Blue
I don't want Mortal Kombat-more-blood-than-any-human-really-has gore... But a tiny bit would be nice. Or at least swords and weapons that actually looked like they were slicing into you rather than just waving them infront of you.
Morgant
Unnecessary. The odds of me actually noticing it to begin with are slim, I spend most of my time watching bars and numbers, and it would just complicate the retail situation for other countries and younger players if the rating were raised.
TheRealDecoy
For the record when I first saw the thread title I thought this was going to be a discussion on Al Gore.
Anyways, I don't think that gore is needed in Guild Wars. I've never really liked gore-filled games previously because I think the gore is kinda distracting. Also, as MOOMANiBE has already said, I don't think a mature rating would be a good thing for Guild Wars for various reasons.
Anyways, I don't think that gore is needed in Guild Wars. I've never really liked gore-filled games previously because I think the gore is kinda distracting. Also, as MOOMANiBE has already said, I don't think a mature rating would be a good thing for Guild Wars for various reasons.
March Hare
I don't think that gore would be a good idea for this kind of detailed game. In Diablo it was fine due to the "dark" style that it was. This game is built to be more of a fantasy realm. Adding gore to a game that is supposed to apeal to MORPG players of all ages I think would draw away from the apeal.
Blood maybe, gore no.
Blood maybe, gore no.
Avatin
I don't think adding gore or blood would enhance my GW experience 
. There are so many visual effects when you cast spells, I think blood is pointless and superfluous. It would not give additional information.
. There are so many visual effects when you cast spells, I think blood is pointless and superfluous. It would not give additional information.
HotSnack
I don't think this game needs gore per se, rather more visual feedback during combat.
Maybe add in those pseudo-duelling animations like in the kotor games, you know they're not fighting properly, and if you look closely the animations were designed for one on one duels in mind, but the sheer 'cool' factor of seeing what looks like a fight makes you ignore the flaws anyway.
Maybe add in those pseudo-duelling animations like in the kotor games, you know they're not fighting properly, and if you look closely the animations were designed for one on one duels in mind, but the sheer 'cool' factor of seeing what looks like a fight makes you ignore the flaws anyway.
Mumblyfish
Just a quick copy/paste job, here. So I'm lazy.
Oh God, please don't ruin another game by adding unnecessary violence. If I have to perservere with blood and amputations, and loads of 12 year olds screaming "OMFG BLUD TEH KEWL!!AOL", I will cry. Hey, why not add prositute-beating and carjacking, have a vampire with huge tits, and make the Prince of Persia say "YOU BITCH". Go the full childish gamut! Nothing saps the fun out of fantasy swordfights, or anything for that matter, quite as much as gore. I'd much rather have flashy effects than screaming and dark red fluid spraying out everywhere.
Oh God, please don't ruin another game by adding unnecessary violence. If I have to perservere with blood and amputations, and loads of 12 year olds screaming "OMFG BLUD TEH KEWL!!AOL", I will cry. Hey, why not add prositute-beating and carjacking, have a vampire with huge tits, and make the Prince of Persia say "YOU BITCH". Go the full childish gamut! Nothing saps the fun out of fantasy swordfights, or anything for that matter, quite as much as gore. I'd much rather have flashy effects than screaming and dark red fluid spraying out everywhere.
Klael
Simply put. GW is not a game where I would like to see blood splurting nor heads falling. It doesn't really fit well. If I want to play a game with those, Sacred fits the bill nicely.
Arcala
Gore might be going a bit too far, but imo you should be able have a blood toggle. Atm, attacks against you doesn't feel like they hurt at all, and some blood should help with that. It would give the game a more realistic feel, imo.
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elder otter
Gore is not necessary. The game is great without it, and I think gore is over-rated. Perhaps it is because I am an older game player but my need for gore is gone...it really adds very little to a game/harms the rating of the game, and is in fact not, to me, an effective way of indicating the violence. GW is already a "violent" game because of the mood-set created by the graphics of post searing Ascalon - WWI in the trenches kind of feel. Gore is not going to add much to that feel. I also agree that given the pace of the game it isn't going to be very noticeable anyway. My vote is no - lets make this a game without gore, rather than just 1 more game with it.
Rushing Wind
I'll just jump on the bandwagon (although I feel this way anyway) and say HELL NO to gore, or blood for that matter. Yes, I understand it might add a little more realistic feel to the game but doesn't the game already stand out on its own without adding, as said, the teen sensation of having guts and blood spraying everywhere? GW doesn't need it because it has so many other things to pay attention too. I also think that it would be a constant distraction more than anything else if that was added. If anything else needs to be added then I think the Devs will come up with something congruent to the path they've already set!
AL Gore
Yeah well if it wasn't for me, you wouldn't even be able to HAVE this discussion on here right now 
*edit due to long tedious response about the wrong topic completely*
....Sorry, first the 2000 election, and now I come here and find out that this isn't even about me about me.
whatever, who needs ya!
*edit due to long tedious response about the wrong topic completely*
....Sorry, first the 2000 election, and now I come here and find out that this isn't even about me about me.
whatever, who needs ya!
Relazil
lol poor Al Gore. :P
Anyway, personally, I think at least a little blood is a good thing. I liked that in Asheron's Call 2. You'd have blood appear over you as you took damage, and was on monsters, too, and then it went away as you regained your hp back. I don't think blood needs to be sprayed around all over the place, or anything, but something like I just mentioned could be cool.
Personally, I find it cool to come out of a battle alive, walking away full of blood. Makes it seem like the battle was more intense, sorta.
Anyway, yeah...
Anyway, personally, I think at least a little blood is a good thing. I liked that in Asheron's Call 2. You'd have blood appear over you as you took damage, and was on monsters, too, and then it went away as you regained your hp back. I don't think blood needs to be sprayed around all over the place, or anything, but something like I just mentioned could be cool.
Personally, I find it cool to come out of a battle alive, walking away full of blood. Makes it seem like the battle was more intense, sorta.
Anyway, yeah...
Dovi the Monk
[COLOR=DarkGreen]no to blood at all, i mean the game will go up to mature most likely, i mean there already seductive female dancers
then think if blood, definetly no to gore, that would be crazy, the game wiuld be feled with top much blood, even a little bit of blood would add up. think of how many hits there are in guildwars, if each time u hit someoen they squirted a little blood, think of how much there would be, ud get lots of hits moving your life bar down, next thing u know ure healed and u keep going down and even more blood pours out, it would just be to crazy and i think an annoyance in the game.[/COLOR]
then think if blood, definetly no to gore, that would be crazy, the game wiuld be feled with top much blood, even a little bit of blood would add up. think of how many hits there are in guildwars, if each time u hit someoen they squirted a little blood, think of how much there would be, ud get lots of hits moving your life bar down, next thing u know ure healed and u keep going down and even more blood pours out, it would just be to crazy and i think an annoyance in the game.[/COLOR]
Lunarhound
I don't like the idea of excessive gore, but if it were up to me, certain attacks would show a small bit of blood, like when you use an attack that causes bleeding in World of Warcraft.
That's just my own personal preference, though. As far as what's best for the game, I'd vote no, as I think blood or gore of any sort would just raise the rating and complicate things.
That's just my own personal preference, though. As far as what's best for the game, I'd vote no, as I think blood or gore of any sort would just raise the rating and complicate things.
Dovi the Monk
[COLOR=DarkRed]that may be an ok amount i guess, not a little bit of blood for every hit, but maybe if u make your enemy bleed, he leaves a trail of blood maybe, or same with a gash.
but definetly not every attack causing a bit of blood that would be to crazy.[/COLOR]
but definetly not every attack causing a bit of blood that would be to crazy.[/COLOR]
Tur713
Good, it's good to see how many people agree with me on the topic. I think blood maybe, but only if they must. What I'm saying is that I could tolerate it if they decided to add it in reasonable circumstances. Something they should add (and I should add this to the suggestions board) is more reaction to attacks; like if you get hit really hard your character should stumble or step back a bit, but not to the point where it's impossible to do anything afterwards. Anyway, not the point of the discussion. I'll say it simply, "Blood and gore no good for Guild Wars."
Devil's Dictionary
It wouldn't change the gameplay so it is uneccessary.
Cicciro
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Tur713
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Neither would anything aesthetic, lets not have different looking swords or dyes either
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Neither would anything aesthetic, lets not have different looking swords or dyes either
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However everyone understood what I meant
Cicciro
Oh everyone understood what you meant (you don't see any need for blood in the game), but you sure have an illogical way of wording it.
Not really. Both are aesthetic differences that only serve to enhance the game or detract from it. Eitherway it is opinion, and I personally wouldn't mind seeing a little blood. Blood to me in a game, shows how I customized my opponent all over the ground.
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Oh everyone understood what you meant (you don't see any need for blood in the game), but you sure have an illogical way of wording it.
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Yeah, I guess I thought one thing and said another. I meant to say that I actually don't care if there will or won't be blood as it won't affect GW's excellent gameplay in any way. However I believe the game does not require blood: the bloom effect gives the game a fairytale look which will be ruined by gore.
I_Hate_You
blood is a moot point in this game. you want blood play a game where you are shooting people, how many other rpgs have blood?
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blood is a moot point in this game. you want blood play a game where you are shooting people, how many other rpgs have blood?
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I_Hate_You
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Deus Ex, Vampire Bloodlines, Vampire Redemption, Arcanum, Fallout... The list goes on, actually.
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MMORPGS? arcanum i will except but i didnt realise the others were even rpgs
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Cicciro
Ultima Online, Neverwinter Nights, Elder Scrolls, Icewind Dale, Baulders Gate, Divine Divinity, Beyond Divinity....
Dreamsmith
Don't forget Diablo II, complete with naked ripped-in-half women. Not really an MMORPG, but then neither is GW (or if GW is, so is D2 -- I'm not going to debate the proper definition of MMORPG, just point out that wherever you draw that line, GW and D2 are on the same side of it). Of course, D2 needed it. The game was extremely "atmospheric". It was also rated M.
I_Hate_You
But really what would blood add? They spit out blood in the same repeateing pattern when you hit them? Then make a pile of blood on the floor when they die? Doesn't add anything visually and could screw up foreign sales
Bobangry
It isn't neccessary in Guild Wars and I would play it regardless. However they should have some blood just for realisms sake even if they don't go overboard.
Of course if they did go all out, that would be freaking cool. Not Mortal Kombat style, but Rune style. How cool would it be to cut off a guys arm and beat him to death with it? The answer is wicked cool. Head throwing would be the new dancing!
err, all in game, of course.
EDIT: I_Hate_You:
err yeah, maybe realism was a poor choice of words...
To my credit I was thinking more of PvP than PvE though. Only humans in there, and I know we bleed red.
Of course if they did go all out, that would be freaking cool. Not Mortal Kombat style, but Rune style. How cool would it be to cut off a guys arm and beat him to death with it? The answer is wicked cool. Head throwing would be the new dancing!
err, all in game, of course. EDIT: I_Hate_You:
err yeah, maybe realism was a poor choice of words...
To my credit I was thinking more of PvP than PvE though. Only humans in there, and I know we bleed red.
I_Hate_You
Tee hee, realisms sake. You are fighting giant two tailed scorpions that CAST SPELLS, giant rock monsters of loosely compiled boulders, gargoyles that are part merthingy or something, man this game has the uber realism.
Whosa Skylore
well i think theyre should be more gore now, but i dont want i body over a big peddle of blood, maybe just like actually hitting the guy with your weapon or, a little blood on your weapon afterwards? but i dont think GW would go good with blood, might just be me :/
jaynan
i don't think that blood or gore would add anything to the gameplay. the only thing it might bring is a higher rating from (T)een to (M)ature. i'm sure the crew at anet would do a great job graphically, but to what end? characters are constantly in and out of combat, taking damage/getting healed. we might as well just dye everything red and RP it's blood....
Tur713
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It isn't neccessary in Guild Wars and I would play it regardless. However they should have some blood just for realisms sake even if they don't go overboard.
Of course if they did go all out, that would be freaking cool. Not Mortal Kombat style, but Rune style. How cool would it be to cut off a guys arm and beat him to death with it? The answer is wicked cool. Head throwing would be the new dancing! err, all in game, of course. |
Cicciro
It used to be that online games were rated M because the people you found online were all assholes who wanted to rape your daughter. What has the world come to?
Dragonne
I'd like to see SOME blood. Gore, eh, not so much, but people are being sliced, chopped and hacked to bits in many cases and there's NOTHING.
It tends to tear you away from any sense of illusion. The atmosphere crashes for me like a meteor shower once someone takes a hit from a weapon in GW. Now, I don't need to see blood spurting everywhere when someone takes a severed artery, and hearing bones crunch with a cripple isn't necessary. A little splash of blood on a sussessful hit, and a small blood mark on the ground around a dead body would suffice for me.
That shouldn't do much to the ESRB rating. Besides, if you buy from somewhere that typically enforces the stipulations behind the ESRB ratings, then go to the next store down the road. They probably don't.
It tends to tear you away from any sense of illusion. The atmosphere crashes for me like a meteor shower once someone takes a hit from a weapon in GW. Now, I don't need to see blood spurting everywhere when someone takes a severed artery, and hearing bones crunch with a cripple isn't necessary. A little splash of blood on a sussessful hit, and a small blood mark on the ground around a dead body would suffice for me.
That shouldn't do much to the ESRB rating. Besides, if you buy from somewhere that typically enforces the stipulations behind the ESRB ratings, then go to the next store down the road. They probably don't.