Now before i start i would like to say that as i dont play this build i not sure if what i have discoverd will actually make a diffrnce
They have changed protective bond energy loss u now cant get -1 energy with a 17 cast can some1 tell if if this makes a very big differnce to this build
have they secretly nerfed the 105/55 build
sambotheman
kuji
yes it dose almost inpossable u dont get any were near enuff enargy back full stop only way u can is with benoffiis defence areana net blow me!
Shinsei
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yes it dose almost inpossable u dont get any were near enuff enargy back full stop only way u can is with benoffiis defence areana net blow me!
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Sanji
They specifically nerfed the 105/55.
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...ad.php?t=51934
Guess you guys are going to have to rethink your solo farming build. You know, the net build you copied. Sorry.
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...ad.php?t=51934
Guess you guys are going to have to rethink your solo farming build. You know, the net build you copied. Sorry.
Boubou
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yes it dose almost inpossable u dont get any were near enuff enargy back full stop only way u can is with benoffiis defence areana net blow me!
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Leddy
It's not secret, they posted that nerf on the official website.
Prot bond's effective energy drain is now 6...3 instead of 6....2
so yeah.
The build doesn't work anymore, because you'll be constantly losing energy. You can try Protective Spirit with 55 though. Dunno if it'll work for you.
Prot bond's effective energy drain is now 6...3 instead of 6....2
so yeah.
The build doesn't work anymore, because you'll be constantly losing energy. You can try Protective Spirit with 55 though. Dunno if it'll work for you.
Lews
omfg no UW farming... WTF! nerfers....
lishi
its no so secret ...
Protective Bond: Energy lost per hit increased to 6..3
Protective Bond: Energy lost per hit increased to 6..3
Bast
Owned
Calnaion Blackhawk
dang, no more money for me 
hope i can still do griffons, ill test in a sec IF I CAN GET ANYWHERE WITHOUT LAGGIN OUT
hope i can still do griffons, ill test in a sec IF I CAN GET ANYWHERE WITHOUT LAGGIN OUT
noblepaladin
with the healing hands buff expect warrior monks to be much stronger farmers now
Sagius Truthbarron
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Who cares. Buy some clothes that aren't packed with runes and join a pug... Easy come, easy go.
Mormegil
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Originally Posted by Bast
Owned
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I hope people criticizing the invincimonk don't have any fissure armor ambition, because now ecto's prices are gonna get nasty.
Robos Stavanis
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I see many people who don't even have a slight idea of what they're talking about. Unimaginative players won't farm the uw anymore, like who cares. But they didn't "own" anyone here: I'm soloing the underworld as usual, with a couple of tweaks.
I hope people criticizing the invincimonk don't have any fissure armor ambition, because now ecto's prices are gonna get nasty. |
Like you though with a few tweaks, this won't make a big enough difference to still doing uw. tougher...yes, but still doable.
ayb
here's another secret: this weekend they're having a big pvp event.
HowardJones
wow i just logged on and found the protect bond is shot, that is so sad.
Phrozenflame
Thumbs Up for Anet
ayb
invincimonks burn in hell
Sagius Truthbarron
Noes! Dey gotz more gold den me!! FISSURE ARMOR! AAAAH MA LIFE ES RUNED!
Phrozenflame
Atleast now we'll find more monks in Tournament.
Fatalis
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Originally Posted by Sagius Truthbarron
Noes! Dey gotz more gold den me!! FISSURE ARMOR! AAAAH MA LIFE ES RUNED!
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Mormegil
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invincimonks burn in hell
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I'm still soloing the crap out of the game with a solo monk build. I won't be so idiot to spread it this time, like others did for the prot bond build.
Oh and if by saying "in hell" you mean "in the Underworld", well, yes, many of us are still soloing there.
Have a nice day.
ayb
i'm not worried. i've read that this isn't the only updated coming down the pipe.
Nash
Great, they nerfed a skill because of PvE. Nice job ArenaNet?
Psa
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invincimonks burn in hell
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who got owned? Anets nerf stick did
only ones that got nerfed are cookie cutter builds
Nash
Yes, people will just farm with Prot Spirit or whatever.
Balancing around PvE is moronic. AI is dumb, the PvE is stupid with lots of single class mobs, of course people are going to farm it. Prot Bond nerf = pure idiocy.
Balancing around PvE is moronic. AI is dumb, the PvE is stupid with lots of single class mobs, of course people are going to farm it. Prot Bond nerf = pure idiocy.
noblepaladin
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Yes, people will just farm with Prot Spirit or whatever.
Balancing around PvE is moronic. AI is dumb, the PvE is stupid with lots of single class mobs, of course people are going to farm it. Prot Bond nerf = pure idiocy. |
Tactical-Dillusions
Gaile Gray - "We have nothing against an honest farmer."
Nice way to prove it.
Nice way to prove it.
coolsti
Hurray for Anet! Stop the "loopholes" and make people play this game properly!
Santanus_Perro
Power gamers who spend 4-5 hours (and more) a day will farm no matter what. For them, it is an addiction.
And I do think it is silly for Anet to change the game because of a pretty creative build. However, because so many copied the build it created unwanted wrinkles to the game including: a huge gap between the have and have-nots, the economy (specifically rune prices, ectos, shards), and allowing bots to farm a new area because of the build, not the ease of getting to chests, good dropping mobs, etc. Because of these undesired effects the build had to be nerfed.
And I do think it is silly for Anet to change the game because of a pretty creative build. However, because so many copied the build it created unwanted wrinkles to the game including: a huge gap between the have and have-nots, the economy (specifically rune prices, ectos, shards), and allowing bots to farm a new area because of the build, not the ease of getting to chests, good dropping mobs, etc. Because of these undesired effects the build had to be nerfed.
Robos Stavanis
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i'm not worried. i've read that this isn't the only updated coming down the pipe.
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Yeah. I suppose they can nerf everyone right out of the game, until creativity is dead..............That's a good thing right? Sheeesh....heaven forbid that anyone enjoy the game in their own instance cause it might affect others enjoyment.
/sarcasim mode off
a_scrawny_gnoll01
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yes it dose almost inpossable u dont get any were near enuff enargy back full stop only way u can is with benoffiis defence areana net blow me!
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The nerfed it, you don't have enough mana.
Seriously, I am happy. No more RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOy arrogant asshats that think they pwn the game just because they coppied a build. Finally, an action that makes sense by Anet.
Charcoal Ann
/sigh
'we will go on farming with a few tweaks'
/sigh
will no-one follow the spirit of the law rather than the letter?
i think that this update shows that invincimonks are not considered 'honest farmers' (because it requires little in the way of skill)
'we will go on farming with a few tweaks'
/sigh
will no-one follow the spirit of the law rather than the letter?
i think that this update shows that invincimonks are not considered 'honest farmers' (because it requires little in the way of skill)
Luggage
Oenoes I have to use essence bond instead of watchful spirit - teh horror 
ayb
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FatherNurgle
"Power gamers who spend 4-5 hours (and more) a day will farm no matter what. For them, it is an addiction.
And I do think it is silly for Anet to change the game because of a pretty creative build. However, because so many copied the build it created unwanted wrinkles to the game including: a huge gap between the have and have-nots, the economy (specifically rune prices, ectos, shards), and allowing bots to farm a new area because of the build, not the ease of getting to chests, good dropping mobs, etc. Because of these undesired effects the build had to be nerfed."
This guy has no clue. It was the smiters solo that began to lower prices of items. They get so many items they sell em off cheaper and cheaper. They kept the prices of ecto down! Smiters did not spend the gold, often they are saving up for fissure armor... LIKE ME! and then the build is nerfed. Farming is possible, just not as good as it was, and now takes 10 times longer. Anyone who says yea! Your we ta did! Build your own damn monk and go smite! Don't hate because you never saved that much gold to buy those freaking runes!
W/in 10 minutes of the new patch, merchants were out of ecto and the price went upto the cap of 11k. Ppl were offering it for 50k. ANET your a bunch of idiots. Stop looking for shit that is not broke. You made some skills now almost worthless!
And I do think it is silly for Anet to change the game because of a pretty creative build. However, because so many copied the build it created unwanted wrinkles to the game including: a huge gap between the have and have-nots, the economy (specifically rune prices, ectos, shards), and allowing bots to farm a new area because of the build, not the ease of getting to chests, good dropping mobs, etc. Because of these undesired effects the build had to be nerfed."
This guy has no clue. It was the smiters solo that began to lower prices of items. They get so many items they sell em off cheaper and cheaper. They kept the prices of ecto down! Smiters did not spend the gold, often they are saving up for fissure armor... LIKE ME! and then the build is nerfed. Farming is possible, just not as good as it was, and now takes 10 times longer. Anyone who says yea! Your we ta did! Build your own damn monk and go smite! Don't hate because you never saved that much gold to buy those freaking runes!
W/in 10 minutes of the new patch, merchants were out of ecto and the price went upto the cap of 11k. Ppl were offering it for 50k. ANET your a bunch of idiots. Stop looking for shit that is not broke. You made some skills now almost worthless!
Spanky Hamm
Guys, they can still farm uw they just have to look at the skills, like I did.
Keure
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Yes, people will just farm with Prot Spirit or whatever.
Balancing around PvE is moronic. AI is dumb, the PvE is stupid with lots of single class mobs, of course people are going to farm it. Prot Bond nerf = pure idiocy. |
Prot bond, however, has a PvP-based argument as well. Ensign put forth this notion:
Enchantments that automatically win the game for you under most circumstances if not removed are inherently overpowered.
More details found here (scattered among the flames and incoherent posts): http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...6&page=5&pp=25
This is for reference purposes only and I do not intend to bring an argument about this into this thread (please don't shoot me).
ayb
/shoot
Nash
I guess I'll discuss that with Ensign next time I see him. I don't fully agree, but he usually has convincing arguements, so we'll see.