Well, as a ranger, I can't find a group anymore, and my connection isn't up to healer PvP standars, so I guess i'll make an axe warrior using tiger's fury (don't start up about frenzy and that, please). I have enough skil points to unlock one skill bar (with res sig, tiger's, and an elite with faction included).
Can anyone give me a decent build?
Need a good axe W/R build for tombs
Puddin Tame
Divine Elemental
it really depends
if ur bringing a spirit or AP or a shout
basically u need
TF
Evscerate[E]
Executioners Strike
Penetrating Blow
Distracting Blow
Axe Rake
Ressurection Signet
Spirit/Other Offenseive Skill/Shout/AP
if ur bringing a spirit or AP or a shout
basically u need
TF
Evscerate[E]
Executioners Strike
Penetrating Blow
Distracting Blow
Axe Rake
Ressurection Signet
Spirit/Other Offenseive Skill/Shout/AP
Puddin Tame
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Originally Posted by Divine Elemental
it really depends
if ur bringing a spirit or AP or a shout
basically u need
TF
Evscerate[E]
Executioners Strike
Penetrating Blow
Distracting Blow
Axe Rake
Ressurection Signet
Spirit/Other Offenseive Skill/Shout/AP Thanks, I just used all my faction unlocking axe upgrades and Eviscerate.
I'll see about that last skill for myself, you've been a big help though.
if ur bringing a spirit or AP or a shout
basically u need
TF
Evscerate[E]
Executioners Strike
Penetrating Blow
Distracting Blow
Axe Rake
Ressurection Signet
Spirit/Other Offenseive Skill/Shout/AP Thanks, I just used all my faction unlocking axe upgrades and Eviscerate.
I'll see about that last skill for myself, you've been a big help though.
Divine Elemental
Also
use Zealous Axe Haft is a must too ^^
use Zealous Axe Haft is a must too ^^
UberRusty
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Bast
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You must be asking the wrong groups because R/Ws are very popular.
I have no idea why
Eonwe
Good lord people. The next time I see someone suggest using TF on a Warrior primary I'm seroiusly doing to throw my monitor out the window. For the last time, use Frenzy.
Also, choose a different secondary please. Ranger doesn't have much to offer.
Just run a standard build that's actually good like the one Nash has posted here:
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...91&postcount=7
Also, choose a different secondary please. Ranger doesn't have much to offer.
Just run a standard build that's actually good like the one Nash has posted here:
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...91&postcount=7
Divine Elemental
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Good lord people. The next time I see someone suggest using TF on a Warrior primary I'm seroiusly doing to throw my monitor out the window. For the last time, use Frenzy.
Also, choose a different secondary please. Ranger doesn't have much to offer. if hes doing random arenas
he doesnt have sure of healing so i suggested TF
if ur in a really organized tombs group u can use frenzy instead since u will get healers/prot u
Also, choose a different secondary please. Ranger doesn't have much to offer. if hes doing random arenas
he doesnt have sure of healing so i suggested TF
if ur in a really organized tombs group u can use frenzy instead since u will get healers/prot u
Eonwe
Ask me if I care about random arena at all. :|
Foppe
I would prefer berserker stance.
Divine Elemental
Ok I Ask U?
Do U Care?
Supposedly answer is no... and do what u want :P
go with frenzy if u find a really organized group.. tf for watsoever...
Do U Care?
Supposedly answer is no... and do what u want :P
go with frenzy if u find a really organized group.. tf for watsoever...
Eonwe
Are you guys just trying to piss me off? Seriously, this has been discussed before. Berserker Stance, and TF on a warrior primary in any type of competitive setting is trash.
Divine Elemental
LMAO
berserker stance hahaha
use that when HAMMAR not axe
berserker stance hahaha
use that when HAMMAR not axe
Eonwe
No, don't use it AT ALL. For the love of god stop it. Please?
Divine Elemental
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No, don't use it AT ALL. For the love of god stop it. Please?
i was like this
frenzy - sword
tf - axe
berserk - hammer
but watev
frenzy - sword
tf - axe
berserk - hammer
but watev
Eonwe
Seriously just stop posting. Misinformation is like a plague.
Divine Elemental
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Seriously just stop posting. Misinformation is like a plague.
stop being a troll ^^
Eonwe
I'm not being a troll. I just get a little angry when stupid people bring up the same points that have been discussed over and over again, and refuted over and over again on these forums.
Divine Elemental
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I'm not being a troll. I just get a little angry when stupid people bring up the same points that have been discussed over and over again, and refuted over and over again on these forums.
forgive me if i dont read every single thread although go with eonwe for this one cant argue no more
Keure
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forgive me if i dont read every single thread although go with eonwe for this one cant argue no more
It doesn't take the ability to read every single thread to understand that you should do your research before declaring your statements to be truth.
This has been debated before on numerous occasions and insisting on spreading inaccurate information, especially without doing your research, is doing this forum and its readers a great disservice.
This has been debated before on numerous occasions and insisting on spreading inaccurate information, especially without doing your research, is doing this forum and its readers a great disservice.
Bast
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i was like this
frenzy - sword
tf - axe
berserk - hammer
but watev
Why the hell would you use frenzy with a sword but TF with an axe?
Berserker's is a pile of warm dung drying in the sunshine.
W/R < W/Anything else
Stop giving people bad information.
frenzy - sword
tf - axe
berserk - hammer
but watev
Why the hell would you use frenzy with a sword but TF with an axe?Berserker's is a pile of warm dung drying in the sunshine.
W/R < W/Anything else
Stop giving people bad information.
Puddin Tame
Hmmm, testing it in random arenas worked well with tiger's. I'll try frenzy for tomb's, but I really don't see it making that much of a difference.
Tiger's fury, with zealous axe haft, you will not run out of energy in battle. I supposed with frenzy it takes less attribute points. But where do the extra attributes go? Into a monk line for that uber 3 pip mending? An extra 1 or 2 strength? I will try them both out in tombs, but I can't really see an advantage with frenzy. If you are suddenly hit with, say, obisidan flame, while running frenzy, that's ~210 health your monks have to heal. Which is about 10 energy and a few seconds of cast time. While as with tigers fury, a simple orison with decent divine favor would take care of that.
Correct me if i'm wrong, and maybe iQ has some uber strategy to prevent stuff like that (which they probably will) but I am not in iQ, now, am I? I just find the odd PuG. I win HoH now and again.
For me, tiger's seems better.
Tiger's fury, with zealous axe haft, you will not run out of energy in battle. I supposed with frenzy it takes less attribute points. But where do the extra attributes go? Into a monk line for that uber 3 pip mending? An extra 1 or 2 strength? I will try them both out in tombs, but I can't really see an advantage with frenzy. If you are suddenly hit with, say, obisidan flame, while running frenzy, that's ~210 health your monks have to heal. Which is about 10 energy and a few seconds of cast time. While as with tigers fury, a simple orison with decent divine favor would take care of that.
Correct me if i'm wrong, and maybe iQ has some uber strategy to prevent stuff like that (which they probably will) but I am not in iQ, now, am I? I just find the odd PuG. I win HoH now and again.
For me, tiger's seems better.
Cerra.nova
You can cancel Frenzy with Sprint... Becoming a W/R just for TF is just plain stupid...(Sorry if you have heard this many times, but trust me if you search the forums you will find quite a few posts/threads on Frenzy and the like...)
Puddin Tame
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You can cancel Frenzy with Sprint... Becoming a W/R just for TF is just plain stupid...(Sorry if you have heard this many times, but trust me if you search the forums you will find quite a few posts/threads on Frenzy and the like...)
What if you are under fire, yet still want increased attack rate?
What else would you suggest I use my secondary for?
What else would you suggest I use my secondary for?
Rieselle
Why not condition removal? If you have no use for your secondary, that's probably a handy thing to pack on a warrior.
Cerra.nova
Well I either use Monk of SoH or Mesmer for Drain Enchantment - however most of the time I do not use my secondary Profession... You just need to know when to use Frenzy and not be stupid and turn it on when you are being smited (You shouldn't be underfire unless your team is all dead, at which point I suggest you just quit or you are in Competitive Arena which is trash anyway...) You shouldn't be too paranoid about the 'double damage' thing, I think people have said that a warrior using Frenzy makes it have roughly the same AL as a caster would...
Keure
How about a secondary that actually increases your damage output (like smiting)?
How about a mesmer/necro enchantment stripper?
Either of those is more helpful than burning away your secondary on W/R.
Edit: Curse you Cerra.nova, heh.
How about a mesmer/necro enchantment stripper?
Either of those is more helpful than burning away your secondary on W/R.
Edit: Curse you Cerra.nova, heh.
sandman1
[QUOTE= but I can't really see an advantage with frenzy. If you are suddenly hit with, say, obisidan flame, while running frenzy, that's ~210 health your monks have to heal. Which is about 10 energy and a few seconds of cast time.[/QUOTE]
im curious
frenzy setback is double damange
but wat if protective spirit is cast on u?
which one takes effect?
sorry abt the side tracking but im currently experimenting with a w/m runing 1 or 2 protection spells and just wan some feedback
im curious
frenzy setback is double damange
but wat if protective spirit is cast on u?
which one takes effect?
sorry abt the side tracking but im currently experimenting with a w/m runing 1 or 2 protection spells and just wan some feedback
Puddin Tame
Well, my skills that I have unlocked are rather limited. Don't the monks or E/Mo's usually do the smiting? How useful would an axe warrior that puts JI on himself really be?
But about 99% of tombs groups are smite nowadays, so not using it when being smited... is... errr...
On another note, what shout would be useful in this sort of build? That one that gives double adrenaline for 15 seconds seems rather good, but haven't seen many others use it. What do you think?
But about 99% of tombs groups are smite nowadays, so not using it when being smited... is... errr...
On another note, what shout would be useful in this sort of build? That one that gives double adrenaline for 15 seconds seems rather good, but haven't seen many others use it. What do you think?
Cerra.nova
Personally I think FGJ's recharge time is too long for it to be of any use... Fear Me! is a nice skill to use, on a War/Mo I just use Strength of Honor instead of JI, personally the 2 second cast time on JI annoys me...
I found this site awhile back on TGH http://special.guildblogs.com/ which has a good post about Frenzy, just scroll down a bit until you reach "Frenzy the newb skill"
I found this site awhile back on TGH http://special.guildblogs.com/ which has a good post about Frenzy, just scroll down a bit until you reach "Frenzy the newb skill"
JYX
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But about 99% of tombs groups are smite nowadays, so not using it when being smited... is... errr...
Don't go for the people who are doing the smiting...easy. When someone actively stands next to you and begins smiting...activate sprint and change targets.
Puddin Tame
Hmmm, i'll try strength of honor and frenzy, see how that turns out.
Queto
Battle Rage is one lovely skill! You should just do something with that! My axe warrior:
1. Battle Rage 2. Penetrating Blow 3. Disrupting Chop 4. Dismember 5. Axe Rake 6. Troll Unguent 7. Antidote Signet 8. Ressurection Signet You can try different professions for healing yourself, because Troll Unguent has a very long cast time. I tried a monk with Live Vicariously and Mending, as long as you have those enchantments, you're hard to kill without giving attention to your health, but those enchantments get stripped very fast. I'm going to try a Strength/Axe/Tactics warrior, see what that brings.
Cerra.nova
Evi + Exe combo is much stronger than what a Battle Rage build can do (read Ensign's thread http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...ad.php?t=49874 Self heals are trash in PvP, why waste slots when you have Monks on your team... Troll Urgent is trash and can be easily interupted... Fear Me! seems to me to be the only decent Tactics line skill...
Puddin Tame
Strength of honour with frenzy works out quite well, actually. With superior aborbstion and -2 damage while enchanted shield, i'm not taking a whole lot even when under fire with frenzy on. And I just owned some R/W using a hammer AND bow, like, in the same skill bar and attribute distribution...
Penetrating blow Executionars strike Axe rake Eviscerate Frenzy Strength of honour Sprint Res sig 14 axe, 10 strength, 8 or 9 smiting (but I get a 7 boost from SoH). Doing well, i'll try tombs tomorrow
Nash
Why aren't you running 16 Axe? And you can dump some Strength for more Smiting. Or just abuse refunds to get it up to 11 before casting.
Otherwise it's looking solid, just no interrupt is kind of dodgy. UberRusty
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The next time I see someone suggest using TF on a Warrior primary I'm seroiusly doing to throw my monitor out the window. For the last time, use Frenzy.
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Why not condition removal? If you have no use for your secondary, that's probably a handy thing to pack on a warrior.
Antidote Signet is a great condition removal for a Warrior.
Nash
You have Monks on your team. Monks have spells to remove conditions. 'nuff said.
Yukito Kunisaki
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Battle Rage is one lovely skill! You should just do something with that! My axe warrior:
Battle Rage {E} is one of the rare skills that few people here like because damage is all people see with a warrior. BR to me is the answer to runners. The Frenzied Exe Strike + Eviscerate I will definitely say is unmatched in terms of SPIKE damage... But if your dps is going to stay at a far higher average, then doing Adrenal Attacks 2x as much rather than in one big burst is the stronger route.
People I've fought [the smart ones anyway] run when they see Eviscerate hit and under frenzy, I'm not catching the Storm Chaser, Windborne Speed, Sprinter, etc... BA allows for near infinite run time. [and once it's up, only 2 swings will allow you to recast it before it runs out...] But, since there's so many complete freakin' morons in this game, Frenzied sudden adrenal spikes WILL work about 90% of the time. Oddly though, the people I fight who DO have brains run from me and those are the times I REALLY wish I brought Battle Rage instead...
ElderAtronach
Yukito: I personally do not like BR because of the lose all adren conditional when BR ends/gets reactivated. It would be a freakin awesome elite if you could keep the adren up. Also I don't see a noticeable difference in number of hits I land on runners with BR up as compared to sprint. You still have to catch target -> stop & swing -> catch target again... if there are no snares on the runner, that increased attack speed won't make that much difference IMO.
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