Does anyone know how to make WHITE dye?
HappySuicide
good point there, but i was stating pigment colors not colors from light, cause im not sure how the programmers made the color system work on this, but still a good point made
The Mighty Toe
To my mind, Dye Remover acts just as water or turpentine does: thinning out paints, thus making them lighter. Therefore, in theory if you keep on adding Dye Remover to any primary coloured Dye, it should eventually end up either white or a very pale version of the original colour. Feel free to flame these ideas if you wish.
Numa Pompilius
From my experiments yesterday, dye remover DOES act like water/turpentine - it makes the dye fainter and transparent, not white.
ghost147
hey, i got one, here http://armageddon.tpon.net/images/gu.../allcolors.htm
mugg faced
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Originally Posted by ayb
cheaper way to experiment with dye mixing (if you have the character slot) make a pvp-only character.
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Numa Pompilius
ghost147: Awesome link!
(my R+G+B is listed as Br+B... Should've seen that one coming.)
(my R+G+B is listed as Br+B... Should've seen that one coming.)
coolsti
Haven't kept up with this thread for some time. In the meantime I tried my combination of Yellow+dye remover + dye remover, which gave me a really nice mint green for my mesmer, on my elementalist. The result was a kind of nice tannish color. So I really also think that mixing dye remover acts to make the dye a bit transparent, letting the background color contribute.
navymrgoodbar
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Originally Posted by HappySuicide
White is the absence of color
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For example: The reason why a blue shirt is blue is because it absorbs all colors EXCEPT for blue. Blue is the only color reflected back. Therefore, you only see the color reflected back into your eyes making you see the blue color in the shirt. If all the colors are absorbed, you see black.
Therefore, as stated before, BLACK is the absence of color. WHITE is all of the colors being reflected back into your eyes from an object that looks white.
Mellow
wow physics lessons..
Apolinario
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Originally Posted by Aria
There is no white dye. The closest you will come to having white dye in Guild Wars is by holding a vial of silver dye. Some people have speculated that due to the Guild Wars engine and to the glow effect, pure white would be a rather garish smear of blinding, rather painful.. well.. white.
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Virgil Lemort
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Originally Posted by navymrgoodbar
If so, plz do tell.
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I saw a dye chart it showed tat if u mix two silvre dyes it looks similar to white im not sure tho cuz i dont have GW on this comp anyway if u want to try that combination go ahead i know i will seein that silver is only 800 gp now if u buy two thats only 1600 not much if u look at black dye
peace VirgP.Sim tryin to make white dye to lol. I think if u type in dye chart u might get one kinda ironic huh lol peace
Xue Yi Liang
The closest I've ever gotten to white armor was purchasing monk Saintly armor at Marhan's Grotto.
Homo
this the closest i got on a elementalist.
coolsti
Hey Homo,
looks really white to me. Are you going to tell us how you did it?
Thanks!
looks really white to me. Are you going to tell us how you did it?
Thanks!
PODO
Yea Homo Spill the beans.
ChoKILLate[FDG]
It looks light purple.
NeoPhythe
i think i know 3 combinations that can make white
Have anybody tried:
Black+removr+remover+remover
Purple+remove+remove+remove
Purple+silver+silver+silver
Thats all i cant think off noiw , ill try to think bout more and if i got like 10k ill trie ome more combo's
Edit:
I tried some combo's , most of them just turned out pink , i tride like
g+b+p+r
b+o+o+o
B+rem+rem+rem
Red+rem+rem+rem
Orange+green+rem+rem
Ill try red + green +2x rem now but think it will turn out purple
Another edit , i heard Silver will go white on a Ele and so will it go on a monk
O btw i promissed to put the pll that helped me sofar in my post so i wanna thank the folowing ppl for their free dyes !
Mr Lithius
Eyes Of The Guild.
hope more ppl will follow
Have anybody tried:
Black+removr+remover+remover
Purple+remove+remove+remove
Purple+silver+silver+silver
Thats all i cant think off noiw , ill try to think bout more and if i got like 10k ill trie ome more combo's
Edit:
I tried some combo's , most of them just turned out pink , i tride like
g+b+p+r
b+o+o+o
B+rem+rem+rem
Red+rem+rem+rem
Orange+green+rem+rem
Ill try red + green +2x rem now but think it will turn out purple
Another edit , i heard Silver will go white on a Ele and so will it go on a monk
O btw i promissed to put the pll that helped me sofar in my post so i wanna thank the folowing ppl for their free dyes !
Mr Lithius
Eyes Of The Guild.
hope more ppl will follow
One and Two
i would like homo's combo.
coolsti
He is probably in Lions selling it for 5K per bottle :-(
One and Two
so i take it there's no white dye drops yet...
ChoKILLate[FDG]
There is talk that they will be making a white dye. Until then has anyone tried the 3 primary colors: Yellow, blue, red=grey, then using the dye remover to get it paler, paler?
Dye remover on black gets a rust color
Dye remover on black gets a rust color
devix
Ill try the yellow blue red dye remover thing..but how many times can i use dye remover on this? I thought max # of dyes u can mix was 4.
eightyfour-onesevenfive
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i would like homo's combo.
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One and Two
ah, thanks. time to make an ele and a mesmer, then...
eightyfour-onesevenfive
You should know, though, that the ele's armor is really more like bright blue (see my avatar). And all that will change color when dyed are the borders; dyeing it silver will result them to become the same bright blue (with a little sheen). Must be the lighting where Homo took his screenshots that makes them look so bright.
Gardavil
I know this is a little off topic, but still about dye combos...
Does anyone know what the combo is for dark green / forest green?
the dye chart show lighter greens than i am interesting in.
TIA
Does anyone know what the combo is for dark green / forest green?
the dye chart show lighter greens than i am interesting in.
TIA
eightyfour-onesevenfive
Don't know if that is what you are going for, but you can make a nice dark green (actually it's more like a really dark teal) with 1 green + 2 blue.
Algren Cole
uhm...I think the fact that for something to be dye it has to have a color coupled with the knowledge that white isn't a color is enough to put 1 and 1 together and realize that you can't make white.
Numa Pompilius
To all of you asking how to make different colors: look at ghost147's link in this thread. It's the real deal.
mm00re
Just a question about dye's and using dye remover
If we have the main colors of red, blue, green, yellow, purple and orange
is it possible to do the following:
use dye remover 3x on a red, and 3x on a blue, then mix those 2 colors
repeat the same for green and yellow then mix those two
and the same with purple and orange, then mix those two
then mix the remaining 3 dye's together to see what happens?
is it possible to use remover on the final dye set, perhaps trying it on another set of mixed dye's?
or possibly don't even try using the dye remover, just get all the colors mixed...
in a nutshell you would still be combining the colors of the rainbow but would you still be limited in any way?
this way you would need 1 of each color except for silver and black and you would need 18 dye removers
I have a ranger using druid armor from droks, and I know for a fact that if you use the dye remover on the armor the way it comes from the craftsman it will change the color from a kind of maroon to a base of light tan (which I in turn dye'd turquois and i must add it looks really good)
If anyone could try the combo's I suggested that would be awesome, otherwise I may just do that this weekend for fun to see what happens
If we have the main colors of red, blue, green, yellow, purple and orange
is it possible to do the following:
use dye remover 3x on a red, and 3x on a blue, then mix those 2 colors
repeat the same for green and yellow then mix those two
and the same with purple and orange, then mix those two
then mix the remaining 3 dye's together to see what happens?
is it possible to use remover on the final dye set, perhaps trying it on another set of mixed dye's?
or possibly don't even try using the dye remover, just get all the colors mixed...
in a nutshell you would still be combining the colors of the rainbow but would you still be limited in any way?
this way you would need 1 of each color except for silver and black and you would need 18 dye removers
I have a ranger using druid armor from droks, and I know for a fact that if you use the dye remover on the armor the way it comes from the craftsman it will change the color from a kind of maroon to a base of light tan (which I in turn dye'd turquois and i must add it looks really good)
If anyone could try the combo's I suggested that would be awesome, otherwise I may just do that this weekend for fun to see what happens
PODO
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Originally Posted by Algren Cole
uhm...I think the fact that for something to be dye it has to have a color coupled with the knowledge that white isn't a color is enough to put 1 and 1 together and realize that you can't make white.
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I like how u started with "uhm..." like u were preparing yourself to just drop some real knowledge on us.
Blu Vein
here's the dye chart I always go off of
http://armageddon.tpon.net/images/gu.../allcolors.htm
ofcourse no white
http://armageddon.tpon.net/images/gu.../allcolors.htm
ofcourse no white
Macel
Try mixing red, green and blue, then use dye remover 255 times on it :P
Algren Cole
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Yea becouse this game is in strict accordance with the actual Color wheel in the real world. That is why when u mix a bunch of dyes together u get a pink, red or purple and not a crap brown or black like u would with real Dye and ect.
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you can't dye your armor white because white isn't a color...how exactly are you expecting to dye your armor a color that doesn't exist? I'm gonna dye my armor Keyboard
Macel. Dyes work on a 4 tier level. You can only use a combination of 4 dyes/removers.
Macel
Well, I doubt in-game dyes mix like real world colors would. It probably follows an RGB pallette in some way. On a typical computer, white is represented as maximum intensity of three colors (red, green and blue) (which is a value of 255 in the range 0-255).
If the total number of times you can mix anything is four.. then ... hmm
green and blue make yellow, so mix yellow with itself, mix red with itself then mix the resulting dyes together. These are just semi-educated guesses. Chances are you'll just get orange w/ yellow and red though.. Think I may have tried that one in the past, actually..
Edit: Well, it's not that simple.. You have Hue, Saturation and Luminosity which determine the intensity of the three. Luminosity has a direct impact on all three.. More luminosity increases R G and B intensity across the board. Hue and saturation determine the ratio of the three intensities. Mixing dye colors seems to affect hue and saturation, but not luminosity, which seems to be set at a base level somewhere halfway thru the spectrum.
If the total number of times you can mix anything is four.. then ... hmm
green and blue make yellow, so mix yellow with itself, mix red with itself then mix the resulting dyes together. These are just semi-educated guesses. Chances are you'll just get orange w/ yellow and red though.. Think I may have tried that one in the past, actually..
Edit: Well, it's not that simple.. You have Hue, Saturation and Luminosity which determine the intensity of the three. Luminosity has a direct impact on all three.. More luminosity increases R G and B intensity across the board. Hue and saturation determine the ratio of the three intensities. Mixing dye colors seems to affect hue and saturation, but not luminosity, which seems to be set at a base level somewhere halfway thru the spectrum.
Obsiedion
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Incorrect. Black is the absence of color. Get a crystal prism and shine a flashlight through it. You'll see that white has all the colors of the rainbow in it.
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Anyways From what i have read on the forums, the biggest factor is the base colour. EG. mes armour (green for instance) if dyed, then the dye you are using is essentially mixing with green. So its a double whammy, there is a really awesome colour wheel somewhere, but can i find the link? can i balls!!
But i have seen a mes wearing a mixture of rogue,collector, and fissure armour all dyed black and white. The boots kinda reminded me of the 1950 bugsy malone type shoes...very cool!! I didnt ask him about it at the time as i was playing my first char (a warrior). Now i got a mes i wish i had!! DOH!!
Anyways i havent got oodles of dye to experiment with so i will wait and plagerise some other bright sparks innovation!!
Happy dying dudes and dudets.
Obs
Macel
Hmm, I haven't experiemented w/ colors in a while.. What happens if you mix a color with itself again? Does it become darker/greyish or brighter/faded out?
Algren Cole
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Hmm, I haven't experiemented w/ colors in a while.. What happens if you mix a color with itself again? Does it become darker/greyish or brighter/faded out?
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Macel
As far as mixing different colors goes, it's as I suspected. I messed around with the color combinations chart someone posted the link to in MS paint. Adding two different colors together averages the difference in hue and saturation. This has an effect on the ratio of intensities of R, G, B. At no point is luminosity affected, which is always at a value of 120 out of 240. Pure white would be a luminosity of 240. Since I don't have access to the game, Im curious if mixing a color with itself or dye remover changes the luminosity at all.
Algren Cole
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Originally Posted by Macel
As far as mixing different colors goes, it's as I suspected. I messed around with the color combinations chart someone posted the link to in MS paint. Adding two different colors together averages the difference in hue and saturation. This has an effect on the ratio of intensities of R, G, B. At no point is luminosity affected, which is always at a value of 120 out of 240. Pure white would be a luminosity of 240. Since I don't have access to the game, Im curious if mixing a color with itself or dye remover changes the luminosity at all.
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