[MERGED] Get all your skills now!

Network

Network

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2005

Quickly! Anet i making it moe expensive! Go quickly! Spnd all your money on skills!

Krank

Krank

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2005

W/

Woo yay!12!!!2!!



Why though? i mean whats another 100 dollar for a worthless skill i have unlocked on another chars? are there e-cookies involved?

Audhumla

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2005

Oregon

The Shattered Hand

N/R

Since they said skills and skill points will be easier to obtain, but skills from trainers will be more expensive, I assume that means more skills will be available through quests and such.

Age

Age

Hall Hero

Join Date: Jul 2005

California Canada/BC

STG Administrator

Mo/

This what it is referring to.

http://www.guildwars.com/news/gameupdates.html

Aracos79

Aracos79

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2005

The Great Southwest

Shadowstorm Mercenaries

E/

I suppose it also makes sense as an additional gold sink.

Tuoba Hturt Eht

Tuoba Hturt Eht

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2005

Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia

Deimos Tel Arin [CCTV]

W/

Oh no! This is bad news for me! Real bad!

Because my personal goal is to learn all the 450 skills for my first and primary character

Oh no! Must farm for exp and gold!
Roar!

Dead Panda

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2005

N/Me

Not sure what the hell they mean by that, since skill trainers is where I get the majority of my skills from, and they're starting to get a bit more rediculously more expensive to grab now.


At least this COULD cut down on all those -skills- that keep popping up in Ascalon Area...

Aracos79

Aracos79

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2005

The Great Southwest

Shadowstorm Mercenaries

E/

I wonder if this is going to apply to Signets of Capture as well, or just to regular purchased skills.

Tuna

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2005

Dark Horizons

Yay, now PvPers will be required to grind for gold AND skill points!

Soul Shaker

Soul Shaker

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2005

Sunshine Coast, Australia

Soul Crusaders

Well, people want skill points, cos they're hard to get. The gold...big woop. Most people are so rich 1k for a skill is like Bill Gates dropping $100.....worthless.

Sanji

Sanji

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2005

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tuna
Yay, now PvPers will be required to grind for gold AND skill points!
I'm anxious about this as well, but I'd wait and see before passing judgement.

I'm with Soul Shaker, though, even without farming in months, I have plenty of gold that I don't get much practical use out of because I don't care for any of Guild Wars' money sinks, nor do I bother with "godly" prestige weapons that people who charge absurd amounts of Gold for.

Soul Shaker

Soul Shaker

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2005

Sunshine Coast, Australia

Soul Crusaders

At least get 15k armour. It's a money sink that's reasonable. FoW armour is just plain ugly and with the material costs a waste of time. (especially warrior stuff), but that's just my opinion.

Xanatos786

Academy Page

Join Date: Jul 2005

Orb

E/Me

I agree...I got 15K pyro and have no intention of wasting time trying to get FoW because in my opinion the 15K looks nicer anyway...

Puddin Tame

Puddin Tame

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2005

Wouldn't you like to know

Pretty Horsies Arouse Greatly

R/

I am so god damn POOR.

Soul Shaker

Soul Shaker

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2005

Sunshine Coast, Australia

Soul Crusaders

People are so worked up about perfect and max stuff that if you wanted to buy something even 1 below max, you'd get it for half the price of a perfect.

TideSwayer

TideSwayer

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

We Farm Your [?????????s]

Honestly, I never really had a hard time gaining skills or skill points. Not that hard if you do UW or FoW runs or even help out with some late-game skillcap groups. I honestly can't wait to see how they plan on making these 'skill gaining' abilities more accessible in this update because for the life of me, I don't see what they are going to do. Making the cost of skills more expensive doesn't really equate (in my eyes, anyways) to making skills more obtainable.

What people need in PvE is an easier time unlocking runes. I've been through the game almost 4 times now (PvE quest) and I've only unlocked HALF of the runes in this game. And most of those unlocks came from me taking a solo smiter monk up to the Ettin Giants and running back and forth farming for them. IMO unlocking runes is a pain in the butt in PvE. It's actually to the point of being pathetically ridiculous. Why must all runes you get from drops have to be attached to armor? That limits the amount of creatures that drop runes for players to unlock in PvE.

There are creatures of ALL professions running around the world. Surely ANet can't just make some of these random monsters drop simple unID'ed runes?? (Minor, Major, Superior drops based on creature level or something). It's perfectly feasible to think some of these monsters could be carrying unID'ed runes for their monster buddies. If a stupid bull can drop a bow and arrow why can't they drop a damn unID'ed rune once in a while?!

Make no mistake though. Greatly looking forward to the update.

coleslawdressin

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

Victory on Demand [VoD]

Me/Mo

quote from update "skills and skill points will be easier to acquire"

I take that as meaning more skill quests and the new areas will give more exp ^^

you guys should be more optimistic about the game

I will try to go around and grab those last 2 secondaries for my monk and those (maybe sucky) skills only available from trainers before the update. I got 50+ odd skill points and I have this odd and possibly impossible desire to unlock every skill on my monk/x. I think SoC cost me 250~ and skills from trainers 500~. I hope the increase isn't more than 50%. Imagine if I unlocked more and 4 expansions later there are thousands of skills.. it is gonna cost like 4 plat for one skill -.-

Audhumla

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2005

Oregon

The Shattered Hand

N/R

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tuna
Yay, now PvPers will be required to grind for gold AND skill points!

Many things will become significantly easier to acquire, including skill points and skills

Ristaron

Ristaron

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Mar 2005

Canada, eh?

Legion Of Valhalla

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Network
Quickly! Anet i making it moe expensive! Go quickly! Spnd all your money on skills!

Please please tell me that your keyboard is acting up.

Red Locust

Red Locust

Site Contributor

Join Date: May 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tuna
Yay, now PvPers will be required to grind for gold AND skill points!
Less xp grind, more gold. Gold is much easier to come by. Yay for that.

TideSwayer

TideSwayer

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

We Farm Your [?????????s]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Puddin Tame
I am so god damn POOR.
LOL. If I ever get a drop of a cup of pencils, I'll be sure to donate it to you. Maybe you can make a buck or two standing on the Lion's Arch street corner pawning the pencils off.

Kampfkeks

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2005

I don't like the looks of this :/
I can imagine the Capture Signet will no longer cost skillpoints and you've got to run around praying for a boss that has your normal skill. Oh noes, i'm allready fed up on elite hunting at places like Ring of Fire of Mineral Springs where you sometimes have to restart it like 40 times just because the wrong boss is in that spot -.-

Just a feeling, but a bad one...

Racthoh

Racthoh

Did I hear 7 heroes?

Join Date: May 2005

Scars Meadows [SMS], Guild Leader (Not Recruiting)

More expensive? Skills are already costing my warrior a platinum and a half each. So much for my dream of unlocking everything one character (maybe).

Man With No Name

Man With No Name

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2005

Manchester, UK

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by A-Net
Many things will become significantly easier to acquire, including skill points and skills. But the gold cost of learning a skill from a trainer will be somewhat more expensive for most players.
How this change can make skills easier to aquire I don't know...?? And where does that leave my characters who've already completed all the quests and are now forced to learn from trainers..??


I take it they mean easier to aquire if I take another character through the sorely lacking PvE side..??

From normal PvE play I've now got unlocked ( bar elites ):
- Warrior
- Monk
- About 50% of Elementalist
- About 20% of Necro

I'm just glad I made a "super monk" -- the skill points I've earnt with that thing have been essential. Through skill point farming, I've unlocked ( bar elites ):
- Mesmer
- About 50% of Ranger
- Additional 50% of Necro

You can see the rather large task at hand. After hundreds of hours across 3 months -- Ranger still needs to be completed as does Necro and Elementalist -- I'll then have to capture the elites for each class...

I couldn't care less about Ectoplasm from the UW -- although it sounds like I'll need it -- if the price on skills is getting bumped up. I certainly don't care about travelling from A --> B or killing Monster Spawn xxxxx just to learn skills through questing....


Unless the gold drops are seriously bumped up in the unrewarding PvE side -- I can see this change backfiring...

Age

Age

Hall Hero

Join Date: Jul 2005

California Canada/BC

STG Administrator

Mo/

I am wondering though if you will be able to buy elites as in useing your skill points to buy skills in the first place.Maybe they will abondon haveing to capture them from bosses instead buying them from a skill trainer as to the cost.Where is Gaile when you need her?

TideSwayer

TideSwayer

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

We Farm Your [?????????s]

If bought skills are going to be made more expensive (at least more expensive enough that ANet has actually warned us to take heed ASAP), isn't this going to prohibit secondary profession changes?

KainShadow

KainShadow

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2005

Legacy of Abyss

E/

Bad news for me, What i'll do ?
i've 3million exp with my primary char , 2 complete profession (skills), half skills of others professions and ~90 unspent skill points...but every skill new cost me a lot more than 1k each and i don't want to spend 200k on skills O_O

Charrbane

Charrbane

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2005

Canada

W/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by Aracos79
I wonder if this is going to apply to Signets of Capture as well, or just to regular purchased skills.
I assume that it will. Glad you asked that. Ummm can you buy more than one signet at a time? If so, then I'm outta here....

KainShadow

KainShadow

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2005

Legacy of Abyss

E/

yes and i just bought 30 signet
considering i can use them for normal skills and , i think, is the smartest thing to do now if you don't have time (you don't lose any, even if the price remain unchanged after the patch)

Grigori Sokolov

Grigori Sokolov

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2005

Mo/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Puddin Tame
I am so god damn POOR.
me too.

Mysterial

Mysterial

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2005

Servants of Fortuna

E/Me

Personally, I like what this message implies. I've got no shortage of gold, it's skill points I want. I've already been essentially trading gold for skill points in the form of UW/FoW runs and XP scrolls, so if they can come up with even faster/better ways of doing so I'm all for it.

Phades

Phades

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by KainShadow
Bad news for me, What i'll do ?
i've 3million exp with my primary char , 2 complete profession (skills), half skills of others professions and ~90 unspent skill points...but every skill new cost me a lot more than 1k each and i don't want to spend 200k on skills O_O
I felt groin pain after reading your post. I think you might be forced to make something else now, due to the gold cost hike if you want to continue in your secondary swapping. I say this because i doubt that your farming for exp will match the gold influx required to keep going.

Charrbane

Charrbane

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2005

Canada

W/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by KainShadow
yes and i just bought 30 signet
considering i can use them for normal skills and , i think, is the smartest thing to do now if you don't have time (you don't lose any, even if the price remain unchanged after the patch)
Excellent. Cool avatar by the way.

Crimson_1190

Crimson_1190

Academy Page

Join Date: Jun 2005

Take a wild guess.....

Reality Check

W/R

most of my skills i got through quests...i think with my ranger, i bought about 3-4 thus far...my warrior was about the same...it really changes little, i still have over 20-30 skill points on each that i have not used...oh well, i doubt this will really change too much

nohooiam

nohooiam

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Apr 2005

Forsaken Sanctuary

Mo/Me

this is just retarded... i remade a healing monk to cap elites for pvp and now i have to make money to buy signet of captures?

KuTeBaka

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by nohooiam
this is just retarded... i remade a healing monk to cap elites for pvp and now i have to make money to buy signet of captures?
you always had to.

Seron Dalar

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2005

Axes High Alumni [AXES]

E/N

I don't like it. Just encourages farming, which I don't do. I guess I'll be saying hello to Rastigan a bit more often now...

Age

Age

Hall Hero

Join Date: Jul 2005

California Canada/BC

STG Administrator

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by KainShadow
Bad news for me, What i'll do ?
i've 3million exp with my primary char , 2 complete profession (skills), half skills of others professions and ~90 unspent skill points...but every skill new cost me a lot more than 1k each and i don't want to spend 200k on skills O_O
Non elites don't cost 1k.I was on last night checking the price on some skills i don't have yet and thay cost 100g to 200g plus a skill point.I don't think after the update that you will be spending like 2 or 3k for non elite I can see 500 to 600 gold maybe but not a 1 K for an elite yes.This would help if players are useing elites in Ascalon arena as low levels and it not that hard to do.I have 2 chars. in PVE that I am working on and I only have 4 skill points for my Monk.I bought some skills becuase I was taken out of pre to early and did get most of my skills.

Slimcea

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2005

Non-elites do cost that much. I just unlocked all my primary/secondary skills (doing ALL the skill quests btw), and its costing me around slightly above 800g for the next skill. If they raise it, I'd hate to think how much I'd have to farm to buy the skills.

Gun Giddy

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2005

Springfield, MO

[HoP]- Hearlds of Pain

Quote:
Originally Posted by Age
Non elites don't cost 1k.I was on last night checking the price on some skills i don't have yet and thay cost 100g to 200g plus a skill point.
Skill prices go up each time you buy a skill. Thats why some people are seeing prices that are more than 100g - 200g for a skill.