Nerf pets pls

wow. that was good

pwned

sorry but this build is so retarded, i'm sure i wasnt tombing when a pet build won the halls :/

ward vs melee > this
anothing thing...
2people using aegis > this
and much much more stuff can own this.

fun build but wont go far..

That is hilarious! I love the thought that went into the strategy....smash faces! w00t!

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Those poor pets... wonder if Putrid Explosion would make it more fun...

This is pretty sweet. You get additional awesome points by a) making a team with 8 wars and winning HoH and b) including 8 pets as an important part of the build.

Ya, a necro with putrid... though how the necro would stay alive is beyond me.

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Tried something similar with ODT in tombs, except all axe wars with eviscerate and some spirits. Conditions are a killer.

LOL. Mad props. Thanks for bringing this build up!

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If more than one dead ally is around, then IWAY will simply last longer. The health regen does not accumulate.

lol aB uses weird builds that works
and i think it was 13th war guild
who had
8 pets and pets do 27dmg to me or more which was amazing for like 4 o.O
anyways thsi aint FOTM i think nublars build is ^^ its tested

and knives
tell Quazik and Lux to go leave fosa and join FtW as intended to

Just to be clear, this isn't our build. PuG came up with the concept, and we thought it was too awesome to pass up.

oh so it was Pug....

that makes sense
cause u guys usually have no offense ^^ or if u do its weaksauce no offense

so IWAY works by adding 10 secs for each dead ally in your radar? so having 8 dead pets in your radar means having a +6hp and 33% attack speed boost for 80secs? WOW. and it's a shout which cannot be removed. didnt know pets are more useful dead than alive

I see the next FOTM comming...

I've played both with and against that build several times now (in fact I believe I was the first victim of it on the march to the Hall in the initial screenshot). It's really surprising how effective the build is, and I think that surprise is its biggest strength. The 8 man offense just punishes mistakes or sloppy play, and while the build is emminently beatable if you know what you're doing, if you get a bit confused or start to falter you're just going to get run right over.

Most teams today are simply unprepared for an 8 Warrior offense. 3 Monks are great for holding off 5-6 attackers, but 8 will break a surprising majority of Monk trios. To that end the build has a surprising amount of staying power as well. The perma-Frenzy plus health regen of IWAY is solid, no doubt, but it's the Ressigs that are a clutch part of the build. Usually they'll get 3-4 kills on your team early on, but you just keep pounding and res your teammates right back up while the Monks simply wear down and get overwhelmed. Warriors are surprisingly robust and wiping out a pack of eight of them is non-trivial, especially when they keep on ressing (the key mistake that lost us that initial match in my first encounter with the build was leaving the Ghostly Hero at the spawn point - we killed well over a dozen of their Warriors and the Morale Bonus gave them a second wind of Ressigs, which was just enough to break our defenses.)

The build is outstanding on relic maps - none of your characters have any real interdependency so you can all run off and abuse mismatches in ways other teams could only dream of. Dais is nasty - you have to gank, but your hero is so fragile that you pretty much have to wipe out both other teams before you even bring your hero down. The actual 1v1 fights are really a test of whether the other team knows what they're doing or not. If they're unorganized or sloppy you'll roll them, while if they stay tight they should be able to stay alive long enough to punish your lack of defense.

Besides the obvious Warrior hate, there are some particularly effective weapons. Tainted Flesh, for starters, simply butchers your team and there's little you can do about it. Smiting can punish this sort of team as well, but you need to force them to bunch up. Wards and Aegis continue to be solid. But in general you just have to play the match like it's a two minute dais match - they're going to throw everything they have at trying to drop you quickly with no plan B, but if you can hold that off for even a little while, you'll wipe them out with superior staying power.

All in all it's a great, fun build to run in a PuG when you don't want to be super serious.

Peace,
-CxE

The Pet Build has been around a lot longer than this, and they've been using I Will Avenge You on their hammer guys for at least a couple of months now. Looks like its finally caught on and gone "public".

damnit, I hate when people do this. Now every team in HoH will try this, and my guild will no longer dominate with this build

all though that team is missing an important factor that seperates my guild build with an all war one

and if there are 2 many of these I know the perfect counter that will own a all war team

i think it's only recently it became more effective due to the changes in "I WIll Avenge You" Skill. it used to be nearby fallen allies, but now it's range is increased to within your radar.

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True enough. We had a lot of trouble with the hall itself as well.

What finally worked for us was rushing the holding team right away and piling as much DP as we could. We made no attempt to capture the altar, we just ran in and beat them down, repeatedly. The third team seemed unwilling to participate, which was probably our saving grace.

By the time the clock hit 2 minutes, they were badly DPd (despite morale) and easily dispatched, and we rushed our hero to the altar. From that point on, it was just a matter of blocking/killing the remaining hero.

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He's the moderator.
Which is not a great person to piss off.

And rank 9 wow, congratulations. You don't know everything. This build works, quite well obviously.

They'd probably target necros and mesmers first destroy them in 2/3 seconds and move to the monks. Wow, there went your counters. Next.

Any build can be stopped by any other build tailored to kill it. But how often do you know exactly whats coming for you?

Throw in some conditions you can deal and "Victory is mine!" would be a great boost to staying power I believe. Maybe one of the warriors could use an axe to fight with, Apply Poison, Cyclone Axe, Dismember, Axe Rake, etc.

Maybe the Rez for all allied pets would work as well - shout your IWAY, rez all pets, let them get some more hits before they die again, rinse&repeat.

Predatory Season would complement the build very well, too. Drop it far back before you run in, when they kill it, have two or three backups - they just have to run out of the fight for a second, drop the spirit and go right back in. You don't heal, so the -20% to healing doesn't matter. The +5 health per hit does matter though - more to you than to the opponent.

A question (I never used pets before, always had my ranger go without one) - does the shout "Call of Haste" work on your pet only or on all allied pets in range?

PS: If you ever want to do this again and do have an open spot at times I'm online (5pm-12pm GMT usually), I'd really like to try it with you

I would like to try it with you guys too
great imagenation
IGN:My Dear Death

While you're suggesting bringing the all pet res skill, otyughs cry might be good to. You're already focusing on a single target at a time, may as well get all the pets focused as well with a bit more armor for some additional staying power.

My guild was running a variant of that build that used only 5 W/R's, but we got slaughtered by PuG. :/ It was really interesting, though, to see to some degree how the two builds went up against each other.

There are a lot of obvious things you could add to this build to make it better, but I guess you lose that big psychological edge and the initial suprise the enemy gets while cycling through your team at the beginning of the map...and finding 8 W/R's. It's a really really fun build, though. My guild has dubbed it the steamroller build.

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