Skills - Frenzy

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Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2005

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Spura

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Feb 2005

Uh, try search button about frenzy. I ain't gonna explain again why this skill rocks.

Mavrik

Mavrik

Forge Runner

Join Date: May 2005

Alaska

I use this skill all the time, great for interupting attacks and getting in as many hits as possible.

Mystical

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2005

Mississauga, Ontario

Inyurface Gaming [IYF]

Seems there are now Mo/Ws using this skill. Seems to speed up thier healing spells. Am I watching them wrong, or is thier a bug in the skill?

Align

Align

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Oct 2005

Protectors of Awesome[AWE]

W/

Suicidal without a protection monk or very smart PvP where people dont attack warriors like ever.
By the way, would Grenths Balance near enough instagib someone with this stance on him/her?

Eonwe

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2005

New Jersey

Idiot Savants

Frenzy does not double the damage taken from life stealing skills -- (such as grenth's balance, vampiric gaze, etc).

Shimus DarkRaven

Shimus DarkRaven

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Oct 2005

Titusville, PA <nowhere>

KOD <Knights of the Dragonrose><Guild Officer>

W/Mo

It still rocks until you can get hundred blades, then you're set =)

Awesome Adrenaline builder. Need I say more? It makes a prunist with shears look second place to a warrior with a sword/axe/hammer.

But still, I used it the majority of the game, and just last night, I've replaced it with rurik's cap, "Hundred Blades" <--Strikes twice at all adjacent foes for 5 mana, come on, twice..adjacent foes = LOTTA HITS if you're farming <or in a big aggo group>

--The shim

projectnavi

Academy Page

Join Date: Oct 2005

N.A.P.

Me/

gotta be careful with frenzy...

don't use that near my hammer guy if you see me, you are gonna be down so fast

saw someone sneak up on me the other day while i was bashing on a mesmer...the warrior starts to use frenzy after for great justice to build up his adrenaline...bad idea ! as soon as i saw he was hitting faster, i turned around and start bashing on the poor creature who was dumb enough to use frenzy on me...first hit, 150 damage, then my adrenaline was up, 2nd hit 80 + knockdown, 3rd hit 175. dead fellow.

laughed so hard at how deadly hitting a foe with frenzy is that i almost forgot to finish up the mesmer.

but yeah, i agree, its a nice skill to have around. but with that 2x damage thing, i usually carry berserker's stance instead, if i want faster attacks.

Schorny

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2005

You use another stance to cancel out frenzy when you are getting attacked.

projectnavi

Academy Page

Join Date: Oct 2005

N.A.P.

Me/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Schorny
You use another stance to cancel out frenzy when you are getting attacked. hehe, go preach that to all the noobs out there.

for now, i'm having fun

Mr Fenring

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Sep 2005

Melbourne

As a healing monk, there's nothing that really pisses me off more than warriors who charge in and use frenzy (when I'm trying to heal them)

Banebow

Banebow

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2005

[KoA] Knights of the Alliance

Me/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr Fenring
As a healing monk, there's nothing that really pisses me off more than warriors who charge in and use frenzy (when I'm trying to heal them) PvP or PvE? Frenzy is suicide in PvE, certainly, but I have never found a skill I like more for an attack speed increase, besides "I will avenge you!", which is way to conditional for me to use regularly, so I tend to go with frenzy.

Lou

Lou

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2005

Colorado Springs colorado, denver when I'm not in school

Looking

W/

I like frenzy with the shock axe spiker builds. One they get KD'd you can get in eviscerate executionars and another attack with frenzy. You just have to be careful about using it when being attacked.

Chellovack

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Jan 2006

The Forgotten Black Mantles

W/N

this skill blows, better use beserker's stance(for warrior main)

Dmitri3

Dmitri3

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

Canada, almost got to see a polar bear... :P

What are you guys talking about?
Frenzy is the best skill in the game, you just need to know how to use it (in other words, this skill is not for noobs).

Well, just go to Observer mode and check top 10 guilds with warriors use it... cause I will be just repeating what others have tried to tell you years ago.

Sir Edri

Sir Edri

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2005

McAllen, Texas

Black Metal Clan

W/Mo

berserker is ok but you can't use other skills while it is up, it will cancel berserk and it lasts for 9 secs and a 30 sec recharge.

I personally use Frenzy..I just use sprint to cancel frenzy when getting hit.

Rafe

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Dec 2005

California

W/

Frenzy is good because warriors are always the last targeted for attacks, so you can blast away with it until they look at you.

Devona Guardian

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Feb 2006

Human Warlords

W/Mo

this skills rocks b/c it gets u adeniline way faster and thats useful when u have high costing adeniline...the down side is u take more damage % but thats ok if ur a w/mo or if u have a monk with u

Age

Age

Hall Hero

Join Date: Jul 2005

California Canada/BC

STG Administrator

Mo/

I see this skill alot in PvP and I wonder why do people use and if it is being used in PvE.There is a better one than this it is called Flurry same thing but don't take the double damage.

killer toast

killer toast

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

im a guild RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GO so not gonna waste time

W/Mo

flurry reduces your damage which isnt that great. People use frenzy because not many people attack the warriors first so it doesnt matter.

TheArrow

TheArrow

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2005

USA

The Illuminati [Illu]

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Age
I see this skill alot in PvP and I wonder why do people use and if it is being used in PvE.There is a better one than this it is called Flurry same thing but don't take the double damage. Flurry is one of the worst IAS stances. I honestly don't know why people use it, I really don't.

Klmpee

Klmpee

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2005

Florida USA :)

[Anti]

W/E

i love this skill in pve and pvp..in pve use another stance to exit frnzy when taken damage. tho many idiots out their thoughtt he skill was the worst in the game so the monk stopped healaer the user and called me a noob repeatedly for saying that it is one of the best adren gain skills out their... sigh.. wanted to slap that monk back and forth...

Age

Age

Hall Hero

Join Date: Jul 2005

California Canada/BC

STG Administrator

Mo/

That depends on if you are the Target of a Warrior even if a Monk is other team and I have one on my team I go for the Warrior.The other castors are for dealing with the healers not the Warriors.

TheArrow

TheArrow

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2005

USA

The Illuminati [Illu]

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Age
That depends on if you are the Target of a Warrior even if a Monk is other team and I have one on my team I go for the Warrior.The other castors are for dealing with the healers not the Warriors. So basically you use Flurry to 1v1 another Warrior instead of taking down a Monk that's healing him? That must make you some kind of super Warrior then.

Jormund

Jormund

Academy Page

Join Date: Feb 2005

Michigan

Quote:
Originally Posted by Age
I see this skill alot in PvP and I wonder why do people use and if it is being used in PvE.There is a better one than this it is called Flurry same thing but don't take the double damage. Flurry doesn't last as long and you also deal 25% less damage, so it's actually counter-productive toward your damage (compared to any other IAS) especially if you're using attack skills while it's up.

I love Frenzy, quick recharge, don't have to spec into anything for it, full damage, and all it takes to avoid the drawback is a little bit of caution on the user's side (which means not using it while you're being attacked heavily by the other team or cancelling it when a spike team suddenly turns and faces your direction).

Age

Age

Hall Hero

Join Date: Jul 2005

California Canada/BC

STG Administrator

Mo/

The trick is when they are attacking your Monk you attack them and if they use frenzy save your best attack skill for that occasion.

TheArrow

TheArrow

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2005

USA

The Illuminati [Illu]

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Age
The trick is when they are attacking your Monk you attack them and if they use frenzy save your best attack skill for that occasion. Plese refrain from ever posting anything that has even the slightest possible correlation with PvP. Also, uninstall life.

Sk8tborderx

Sk8tborderx

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Nov 2005

PA

Us Are Not [leet]

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Age
The trick is when they are attacking your Monk you attack them and if they use frenzy save your best attack skill for that occasion. Ummmm.... do you actually pvp? If you did I would hope you had enough common sense to attack the warrior last.

tafy69

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2005

N/Me

If I play warrior in GvG i often hit the enemy warrior to get them to switch out to sprint, also easy to charge adrenaline on the frenzy warrior than chasing a mesmer with distortion all over the place.

I use a Hammer and normal attacks on frenzy warrior is pretty nice, if I see one thats under 50% HP its GG

Ymir Sade

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jul 2005

Champions Of the Phoenix

R/Mo

i was in the ascalon area yesterday, with my lvl 10 w/e. it as all good fun and if i remeber corectly we clocked up about 50 wins before we got bored. but while i was there i noticed this warrior that kept comming back in different teams. he was lvl 5 with pre armor, and was using frenzy...
even after i killed him on loads of occasions he stil didnt stop using frenzy.

(i was using frenzy too but in a much more inteligent way)

Thomas.knbk

Thomas.knbk

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by TheArrow
Flurry is one of the worst IAS stances. I honestly don't know why people use it, I really don't. Flurry is better then frenzy in solo builds or tank builds. That's about it. You get adrenaline faster, and on-hit effects take place more often (order of pain, vamp weapon, zealous weapon, but also empathy, spiteful spirit and so on). Also, flurry reduces the damage from your normal attacks, but not the +dmg from attack skills. therefore, in PvE flurry>frenzy.
In PvP, stick with frenzy for the reasons everyone else before me has stated. I do agree that frenzy is the best skill in the game, but I want to add to that this only is true in PvP.

Hidden in the Mist

Hidden in the Mist

Banned

Join Date: May 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by TheArrow
Flurry is one of the worst IAS stances. I honestly don't know why people use it, I really don't. No no, Tiger's Stance is the WORST IAS stance in the game.

Samuel Dravis

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jan 2006

Mo/Me

Frenzy is excellent on a R/W with a vamp longbow... If you can get close enough (without being attacked) to use a shortbow and Frenzy it's insane. PvE, of course. Better than Tiger's Fury as you have to spend 0 points to get the full effect.

Symbol

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Aug 2005

Quote:
PvP or PvE? Frenzy is suicide in PvE, certainly, but I have never found a skill I like more for an attack speed increase, besides "I will avenge you!", which is way to conditional for me to use regularly, so I tend to go with frenzy. Frenzy is most emphatically not suicide in PvE, as long as you're not trying to tank. If you just want to do damage, and you're smart about not taking aggro and cancelling it works just fine.

Tark Alkerk

Tark Alkerk

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2005

In a Black Hole

less

E/

warriors in pvp:
frenzy is just about a mandatory skill
i don't know about trhe pve side because i got bored of pve warrioring.

DeathWise

DeathWise

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2006

The Netherlands

Order of Flum [OoF]

A/N

Quote:
Originally Posted by TheArrow
Flurry is one of the worst IAS stances. I honestly don't know why people use it, I really don't. Flurry actually works perfectly on Assassins. They have low bas damage so the damage penalty won't hurt them. That plus the fact that nearly all the damage Assassins do comes from their attack skills, which are armor-ignoring and aren't reduced in damage due to Flurry. I actually have a build with my Assassin using Flurry - works great.

Numa Pompilius

Numa Pompilius

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: May 2005

At an Insit.. Intis... a house.

Live Forever Or Die Trying [GLHF]

W/Me

OK, why is Tigers Stance the worst IAS in the game? Because you need to spend points in Strength?

I never use Frenzy any more, because the second I trigger it you can BET some bastard Ranger hits me with a 150+ point hit - so I cancel the Frenzy.
End result: no IAS, 150+ health lost.

Gimme Tiger Stance any day.

Skuld

Skuld

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Sep 2005

Thousend Tigers Apund Ur Head [Ttgr]

A/

Because you can't use it when you want? Frenzy - 4 second recharge, Tiger's - 20 second recharge..

Numa when are you using this? without a monk?..

Numa Pompilius

Numa Pompilius

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: May 2005

At an Insit.. Intis... a house.

Live Forever Or Die Trying [GLHF]

W/Me

I pretty much exclusively do Aspenwood now when I'm not playing with my guildies (and then I use a ranger).
Monk or no monk, I don't see the use of taking extra damage when most of the time I have to break before I get the full 8 second benefit. And if that ranger or luxon warrior decides to keep hammering me, I've no IAS at all.

Yeah, only having IAS 50% of the time is irritating, but if I have to chose between tigers stance and frenzy, I'll take tigers stance.

But maybe that's just me, I don't know. I was mainly curious why you felt TS was so bad.

Savio

Savio

Teenager with attitude

Join Date: Jul 2005

Fifteen Over Fifty [Rare]

Because it ends when you miss once, which happens quite a bit against any decent opponent? Or the fact that if you cancel Frenzy, you can put it back up a few seconds later?