About the ATI Radeon 8500 Video Card?
Ice Heart
I was wondering, do any of you know if the Game is limited to specific video cards? We have everything for the Connection, the only thing we are not sure of is our Video Card. We have a ATI Technologies INC. 3D Rage II PCI Video Card. Do any of you know if this will work with Guild Wars? *Crosses Fingers.*
Loviatar
i will take a look but my first hunch is no or not well at all
while i check what are the rest of the specs? cpu ram etc?
that thing is 7 years old according to ati archives
sorry but i dont think so
it is so far under the minimum stated i dont see it at all
they say the minimun for good play is nvidia gf3/4 or better
ati 8500 or better
while i check what are the rest of the specs? cpu ram etc?
that thing is 7 years old according to ati archives
sorry but i dont think so
it is so far under the minimum stated i dont see it at all
they say the minimun for good play is nvidia gf3/4 or better
ati 8500 or better
Ice Heart
You don't know how much that sucks to hear that. I mean that really sucks, I was looking forward to that Game Bad. How much do Video Cards cost, I mean ones that will actually play good with Guild Wars? It's not hard to install one is it?
Shrapnel_Magnet
Well, in all honesty, Ice Heart... what do you play right now? I mean, that Rage Pro can't be taking you very far...
Whosa Skylore
video cards can cost alot, and their very easy to install, i did mine on my old computer last year, i was 12 and i dont know much about comp. so im sure you can do it. but im preaty sure video cards go from 100+ a good one would be expensive, but im playing on my laptop, so im preaty sure i cant get a new videocard installed so i dont have to worry bout it 
Ice Heart
I don't play any games on MY computer. I usually am over at a friends house if i'm going to play PC games. My computer was built by my moms dad (Who is extremely good with computers), and from what we have experienced (Besides Video Games) my computer works well with the internet, video's, and everything else. I have felled to try and play a game on here yet though. From what i'm hearing, it looks as if I won't be trying to even play a game any time soon with my Video Card. What video cards do you all recomend? (Keep the prices low, I search for good prices, I hate spending alot of money on things.)
Loviatar
before giving any suggestions i would need to know the processor and speed
the ram (type and speed)
if those are below the minimum specs as well i would be doing you dirt saying do this when i knew something else would stop you
servicable card is less than 50 dollars as low as 40
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this free utility will give you any information you might possibly need concerning your pc
http://www.sisoftware.net/?location=update
minimum specs
Windows® XP/2000/ME/98
Intel Pentium® III 800 Mhz or equivalent
256 MB RAM
CD-ROM Drive
500 MB Available HDD Space
ATI Radeon 8500 or GeForce 3 or 4 MX Series Video Card with 32MB of VRAM
16-bit Sound Card
Internet connection
Keyboard and mouse
the ram (type and speed)
if those are below the minimum specs as well i would be doing you dirt saying do this when i knew something else would stop you
servicable card is less than 50 dollars as low as 40
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this free utility will give you any information you might possibly need concerning your pc
http://www.sisoftware.net/?location=update
minimum specs
Windows® XP/2000/ME/98
Intel Pentium® III 800 Mhz or equivalent
256 MB RAM
CD-ROM Drive
500 MB Available HDD Space
ATI Radeon 8500 or GeForce 3 or 4 MX Series Video Card with 32MB of VRAM
16-bit Sound Card
Internet connection
Keyboard and mouse
Ice Heart
Ok, me and my family have already looked at the FAQ of the Guild Wars. We have checked all the system requirements for the game, and the only one I have found we need is the video card. Everything else is A-ok! \m/
BlackArrow
I picked up a Power Color Radeon 9250 256mb PCI card for about $115 CDN. I ordered it fomr some website (can't remeber it now). This card worked great in Feb BWE. I could run GW at full settings with no problems. It's much better than my former GeForce 4 MX 440 (minimum reqs according to ANet) but I was still able to run GW on it with no problems at the lowest settings. The only problem then was the world looked much less pretty.
Ice Heart
Ok, but we know for sure that the video card I have now will not work right? If that is the case, I will just have to go and pick one up.
Loviatar
the minimum price for the minimum card from a reliable source is about 40-50 dollars
newegg has had top reseller ratings since it opened and i have used them for several years
http://www.newegg.com/
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the only way is to try it but others with similar cards have reported failure
newegg has had top reseller ratings since it opened and i have used them for several years
http://www.newegg.com/
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the only way is to try it but others with similar cards have reported failure
Whosa Skylore
really? i got my grafics card for my old comp. at like 100 :/ but i have no clue what kinda graphics card i have, but when i play i lag alot sometimes and i lag none at others :/ so i guess mine is inbettween. but if i were you i'd get a good graphics card and dont play lacrosse if you hate spending mone, lol, that sport costs alot
BlackArrow
Ice Heart: If you have the GW client downloaded and installed, open it up and see what it looks like. Click the button "autodetect settings" to let the client change the video settings to the right level for your card (I'd assume it would go to the lowest settings). If the fires int he background look choopy at all, you'll probably need a new card. it is possible for GW to run on that card (I think) but the best way to find out is to try it out.
Loviatar
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Originally Posted by Whosa Skylore
really? i got my grafics card for my old comp. at like 100 :/ but i have no clue what kinda graphics card i have, but when i play i lag alot sometimes and i lag none at others :/ so i guess mine is inbettween. but if i were you i'd get a good graphics card and dont play lacrosse if you hate spending mone, lol, that sport costs alot
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if the lag is a second or more i would say the vonnection
try turning off the sound and the graphics dowb to 800x600 and all effects off and see if the lag vanishes
if it is still there it is probably the connection
no guarantee though
Ice Heart
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Originally Posted by BlackArrow
Ice Heart: If you have the GW client downloaded and installed, open it up and see what it looks like. Click the button "autodetect settings" to let the client change the video settings to the right level for your card (I'd assume it would go to the lowest settings). If the fires int he background look choopy at all, you'll probably need a new card. it is possible for GW to run on that card (I think) but the best way to find out is to try it out.
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Ok, so how do I download the client? Do I have to just preorder the game, or what? Are you saying that there is a slight chance my card may work?
Whosa Skylore
lol thanks, it prob is my connection, but i cant tell if my graphics card is good enough, cause i really dont know what it is, and if i could id steal my other one and put it on this comp.....except you cant change graphics cards on a laptop can you?
Whosa Skylore
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Originally Posted by Ice Heart
Ok, so how do I download the client? Do I have to just preorder the game, or what? Are you saying that there is a slight chance my card may work?
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Loviatar
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Originally Posted by Ice Heart
Ok, so how do I download the client? Do I have to just preorder the game, or what? Are you saying that there is a slight chance my card may work?
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http://www.guildwars.com/downloads/clientdownload.html
there is an easy to miss small tab to click on the right hand side of the screen for the graphics options
BlackArrow
There is a slight chnace your card will work. GW worked on my GeForce 4 MX 440, which seems equivilent to yours according to GW system reqs.
Chances are you'll wanna upgrade when you can to catcht eh full beuaty of the GW world.
Chances are you'll wanna upgrade when you can to catcht eh full beuaty of the GW world.
Ice Heart
Ok, well I downloaded it fine, but I was not able to view it because i'm not the admin. of my computer. We have Windows XP and all my family members have their own Log In, my Mom however is the Administrator, and I will have to get her to download it. I have some info that might help you guys about my video card. Ok, everytime I go to play previews, or watch music video's, clips, trailers, etc...They all play just fine, would that mean my game would somewhat work ok, or does it have anything to do with my card?
Weezer_Blue
hehe... get a new computer. you can get a decent one for 1,000 or less.
Loviatar
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Originally Posted by Weezer_Blue
hehe... get a new computer. you can get a decent one for 1,000 or less.
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i think an unhelpful post like that is just the spam they were talking about warning people for
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the only thing to do is try
stumpy
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Originally Posted by Ice Heart
Ok, well I downloaded it fine, but I was not able to view it because i'm not the admin. of my computer. We have Windows XP and all my family members have their own Log In, my Mom however is the Administrator, and I will have to get her to download it. I have some info that might help you guys about my video card. Ok, everytime I go to play previews, or watch music video's, clips, trailers, etc...They all play just fine, would that mean my game would somewhat work ok, or does it have anything to do with my card?
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Good luck and hope to see you out there!
Nova
I got a 64 MB graphic card for like $60. It was a GeForce 4 or something i dont rememeber. I got a 128 MB graphic card (Really good) for $99.99 at CompUSA. Its a called like Verto with orange around it with this chick melting her pruple skin and shes a machine underneith. its liek a GeForce 4 FX (or MX) not sure 5500. Its AWESOME. it is a great deal. its $122.99 at Best Buy (they suck i found since i looked a lil walk to CompUSA and found it cheaper) so but it at CompUSA!
EDIT: Here is the graphic card I jsut bought. If you want youc could search the site even more. I will look for more too. Verto GeForce FX 5500 Video Card, 8x AGP, 128MB DDR
Here is anotehr one, cheaper , but its only a 64 MB HOWEVER that is what is recomended for GuildWars.
Verto GeForce FX 5200 Video Card, 8x AGP, 64MB DDR
Ok, this is the card I had before my new 128 one. I got it like from the guy who made mt computer. This card isn't too expensive for a Graphic card at all and works graet.Here is what I think my old one was.
Hope I was helpful.
EDIT: Here is the graphic card I jsut bought. If you want youc could search the site even more. I will look for more too. Verto GeForce FX 5500 Video Card, 8x AGP, 128MB DDR
Here is anotehr one, cheaper , but its only a 64 MB HOWEVER that is what is recomended for GuildWars.
Verto GeForce FX 5200 Video Card, 8x AGP, 64MB DDROk, this is the card I had before my new 128 one. I got it like from the guy who made mt computer. This card isn't too expensive for a Graphic card at all and works graet.Here is what I think my old one was.
Hope I was helpful.
stumpy
While on the topic I thought I may as well pop in the good ol' guildwars faq just in case anybody needs to check there settings. I wasn't affected and my card is on the list but I made the modification anyways to prevent and possible future problems I might have had, also the more that know the better the gameplay...
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From Guildwars FAQ I am using a NVidia GeForce FX video card and am having trouble seeing some terrain features. There is a known issue with NVidia GeForce FX vide cards (GPUs) and driver version 61.77 when the user has changed "Image Settings" to "High performance". Some of the problems include missing terrain. The solution is to change your video settings to "High quality". To do this, follow these instructions: On Windows XP: Open Display Properties control panel. Click Settings tab Click Advanced button Click GeForce "Version" tab Select Performance and Quality Settings in left window In the Global Driver Settings window select Image Settings Move the slider to the right to "High quality" The video cards/GPUs that are affected by this problem are: GeForce FX 5200 GeForce FX 5200 Ultra [COLOR=DarkRed]<<--- my 128MB Video Card, wifey say no to 6600GT[/COLOR]  GeForce FX 5500 GeForce FX 5700 GeForce FX 5700 Ultra GeForce FX 5700LE GeForce FX 5900 GeForce FX 5900 Ultra GeForce FX 5900 XT GeForce FX 5950 Ultra GeForce PCX 5300 GeForce PCX 5750 GeForce PCX 5900 |
BlackArrow
Thats the card I have and it works great. If you have a PCI slot in you computer, this is a good buy.
Ellestar
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Originally Posted by Ice Heart
What video cards do you all recomend? (Keep the prices low, I search for good prices, I hate spending alot of money on things.)
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If it's too costly take GeForce 6600. GeForce 6200 isn't practically usable for gaming so it's a big no-no.
Geforce 4xxx and 5xxx are significantly slower (especially in new games with a lot of shaders etc.) than GeForce 6600 GT or GeForce 6800. ATi doesn't have something that is as good as GeForce 6600 GT for a same price AFAIK.
I played Guild Wars on my old GeForce 4 Ti 4200 128 Mb and it was fine (P4-2400, 1 Gb RAM). But now i upgraded video to GeForce 6800 - probably too fast video card for my processor, but IMHO during an upgrade it's more efficient to make a system a little unbalanced in one aspect than to upgrade all parts.
I don't recommend to play games on GeForce 4 MX series (or older video cards) because it's significantly slower than even GeForce 4 Ti.
Ellestar
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Originally Posted by BlackArrow
Thats the card I have and it works great. If you have a PCI slot in you computer, this is a good buy.
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Besides, it's outdated. It supports only DirectX 8.1 (so only Shader 1.4 at best, and GeForce 6xxx video cards support Shader 3.0)
Not to mention perfomance, it will be hard to find charts that compare this card with new video cards (it's too old), but it may easily be 7-10 times slower than GeForce 6600 GT in some new games (5 times slower for sure). Most likely it will be somewhere near a minimum requirments for Guild Wars, but it's a waste of money anyway - if you buy it, then you still need to uprgrade it ASAP
If a computer have an AGP slot, then it's a lot better to buy AGP video card instead of PCI one.
Ice Heart
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Originally Posted by stumpy
No that doesn't mean gameplay will work fine. You still have to test it in the actual game (client). The videos are optimized for the web and no pre req for video cards. Try to talk to the admin (dad) or whomever is your admin and ask to install the client. It will bring you to nothing more than a login screen, which daily I desperately wish would say gameplay available. If your graphics are fine in that then you will be able to play, but you may experience some glitchy play. Here's hopin you are okay. Everybody wants to buy the top end video card, but unfortuneately ... can't justify paying the price (<<< has 2 kids). Justafication (wifey) doesn't always agree with me.
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Yea, well I guess that is all i'm going to have to do is try, and if it does not work i'll have to get me another video card. I apriciate all the help all you have been, and thanks to everyone who supplyed me some information. I Just Found out that the Card I have, was made back in January 9, 1997! That seriously sucks knowing how many new and better cards they have came out with. The card I have was made to perfect the graphics of 3D and 2D games, but that does not matter now that they have newer games with more Hightec. graphics? I have not played Everquest on my Computer. I allways went over to my friends house to play. Justin Mclain, or on Everquest his character was Adriel Shadowbane, Darkelf Necro. I have not played any games on my PC. I guess I will go check out what Cards I can find.
Loviatar
WARNING ABOUT 5200
every top gaming magazine and web review says to stay away from that like the plague for very bad performance
they also dont like the 5500
STUMPY
if and when you get that 6600GT you will find out it makes a world of difference
i had to wait until the price went down and my maker of choice (leadtek) put one out but the difference on 3dmark 2005 goes from a slide show at 407 points with the 5600 ultra (got under warranty replacement for a 4200ti that fried the ram)
to 2746 and looks like something nice
almost 6800 performance at less than half the price
every top gaming magazine and web review says to stay away from that like the plague for very bad performance
they also dont like the 5500
STUMPY
if and when you get that 6600GT you will find out it makes a world of difference
i had to wait until the price went down and my maker of choice (leadtek) put one out but the difference on 3dmark 2005 goes from a slide show at 407 points with the 5600 ultra (got under warranty replacement for a 4200ti that fried the ram)
to 2746 and looks like something nice
almost 6800 performance at less than half the price
Ice Heart
I Beleive I have found the answer to my Video Card problem. I Was searching around for the ATI Radeon 9000 Video Card, the Recommended Video Card for Guild Wars, and I looked at Wal-Mart, and they have them for $72.72. What are your opinions on this? You have all helped me through my troublesome questions, so could you all let me know if you all think this is a good deal or not.
Loviatar
what version of 9000?
they go from pro to crippled (le)
google it with either review or roundup or shootout to see how it actually does
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quick check says you can do better for he price or get equal for less
it is 3 years old now and was aimed at the GF4MX market which is very low end for market competition as the MX does not have he shader setup used today for effects
they go from pro to crippled (le)
google it with either review or roundup or shootout to see how it actually does
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quick check says you can do better for he price or get equal for less
it is 3 years old now and was aimed at the GF4MX market which is very low end for market competition as the MX does not have he shader setup used today for effects
Ice Heart
I don't know about the one I posted, but there is also these;
-ATI Radeon 9200SE AGP 128 MB Graphics Card for only $69.88
-ATI Radeon 9200SE PCI 128 MB Graphics Card for only $69.88
What do you all think about these. Are they even worth looking at?
-ATI Radeon 9200SE AGP 128 MB Graphics Card for only $69.88
-ATI Radeon 9200SE PCI 128 MB Graphics Card for only $69.88
What do you all think about these. Are they even worth looking at?
Loviatar
check youe motherboard to see if you have an AGP slot as that is much better than PCI
that also is a very low end card
that also is a very low end card
Ice Heart
Is that good or bad, and would it play Guild Wars?
Loviatar
it is above but very close to the minimum
i found a 6600 CARD FOR 109 dollars at newegg.com which is well above the minimum
i found a 6600 CARD FOR 109 dollars at newegg.com which is well above the minimum
Ice Heart
Why would a 9200 not be better than a 6600? Does it even have anything to do with the numbers? I'm starting to get lost. 
Loviatar
9000 series ia ati
6000 series is nvidia
each separate company has a complete and separate model numbering system not related to the other
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the 6600 is maybe 3-5 times better?
6000 series is nvidia
each separate company has a complete and separate model numbering system not related to the other
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the 6600 is maybe 3-5 times better?
BlackArrow
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PCI slot video card? With 256 Mb RAM? IMHO it's a waste of money. 128 Mb video card will be as good because PCI bus is too slow for modern video cards anyway (don't confuse PCI and PCI-E)
Besides, it's outdated. It supports only DirectX 8.1 (so only Shader 1.4 at best, and GeForce 6xxx video cards support Shader 3.0) Not to mention perfomance, it will be hard to find charts that compare this card with new video cards (it's too old), but it may easily be 7-10 times slower than GeForce 6600 GT in some new games (5 times slower for sure). Most likely it will be somewhere near a minimum requirments for Guild Wars, but it's a waste of money anyway - if you buy it, then you still need to uprgrade it ASAP If a computer have an AGP slot, then it's a lot better to buy AGP video card instead of PCI one. |
It's only temporary until I buy a new copmuter anyways ( within the next year or so) then i'll buy somthing much better.
Ionly recommend this card if your only option for video card slot is PCI, if you have PCI-Express or AGP slots , there are much, muich better cards out there.
Ice Heart
Ok, I'm going to list a few of the more popular Video Cards, and if any of you can let me know wich one would be best to buy I sure would apriciate it? I can find even more but those were listed pretty popular. I don't know though?
1- Radeon 9200 128 MB APG for $81.44
2- ATI Radeon 9200SE PCI 128 MB Graphics Card for $69.88
3- ATI Radeon 9200SE AGP 128 MB Graphics Card for $69.88
4- ATI Radeon 7000 PCI 32 MB Graphics Card for $49.88
5- ATI Radeon 7000 AGP 32 MB Graphics Card for $44.88
6- Radeon 9000 64 MB AGP Graphics Card for $72.72
1- Radeon 9200 128 MB APG for $81.44
2- ATI Radeon 9200SE PCI 128 MB Graphics Card for $69.88
3- ATI Radeon 9200SE AGP 128 MB Graphics Card for $69.88
4- ATI Radeon 7000 PCI 32 MB Graphics Card for $49.88
5- ATI Radeon 7000 AGP 32 MB Graphics Card for $44.88
6- Radeon 9000 64 MB AGP Graphics Card for $72.72