by and large i have no problems with the mods on these forums. I know they do nto have an easy job. However i have noticed a trend that i hope I can bring attention to, and that can be solved pretty easitly.
this is not intended as a flame thread so I ask that all of the responses be well thought out and respectful. that being said here is what I have noticed.
there are some moderators here that have very strong opinions on issues brought up in the forums. In and of itself this is a good thing. However I have also noticed that in certain instances after a few posts disagree with them they give their last post, put in a small flame or 2 then close the topic with the OP not able to either defend himself, nor counter the argument.
I am not going to name names here but people who post here regularly know the mods who do this.
my point here is not to point the finger or place blame but to make this point so it stops.
we all know that we are from different countries use different languages, I find it deplorable that mods here would flame someones grammar and spelling. that is not their job.
Mods are ehre to keep the peace and keep prople on topic, not to be english teachers.
your input would be greatly appreciated. once again please do not flame nor use names of mods you have a problem with, but feel free to post things you have seen so they can be changed.
some thoughts on moderators in GURU
salja Wachi
Slade xTekno
Over my tenure here, I have found that PMs work wonders with mods.
Kuku Monk
Absolute power corrupts, absolutely.
ddoogle
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Originally Posted by salja Wachi
However I have also noticed that in certain instances after a few posts disagree with them they give their last post, put in a small flame or 2 then close the topic with the OP not able to either defend himself, nor counter the argument.
You are COMPLETELY true in that statement!, 100%
salja Wachi
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Originally Posted by ddoogle
You are COMPLETELY true in that statement!, 100%
what just happened to you was the inspiration for this topic.
crimsonfilms
Yep, the mods need to take it down a notch.
ddoogle
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Originally Posted by salja Wachi
what just happened to you was the inspiration for this topic.
thank you, while i have my view on vamp hilts is that a problem? this is a forum for debate, and i do belive i put good posts about Hundrenblades and how it affects adjacent enemies and about the link i gave on weapon mods, what was the need to close it??? some mod that disagrees thats what 
lol!
p.s. and maybe beacuse i said "full stop" and "bull", and i didnt use spellcheck (they just cant help the personal attacks) lol!!
lol! p.s. and maybe beacuse i said "full stop" and "bull", and i didnt use spellcheck (they just cant help the personal attacks) lol!!
Sereng Amaranth
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Originally Posted by salja Wachi
this is not intended as a flame thread so I ask that all of the responses be well thought out and respectful. that being said here is what I have noticed.
there are some moderators here that have very strong opinions on issues brought up in the forums. In and of itself this is a good thing. However I have also noticed that in certain instances after a few posts disagree with them they give their last post, put in a small flame or 2 then close the topic with the OP not able to either defend himself, nor counter the argument.
I am not going to name names here but people who post here regularly know the mods who do this.
my point here is not to point the finger or place blame but to make this point so it stops.
we all know that we are from different countries use different languages, I find it deplorable that mods here would flame someones (someone's) grammar and spelling. that is not their job.
Mods are ehre (here) to keep the peace and keep prople (people) on topic, not to be english (English) teachers.
your input would be greatly appreciated. once again please do not flame nor use names of mods you have a problem with, but feel free to post things you have seen so they can be changed. I hate grammer natsies. And you need to capatulyz the beginign of eych sentenance.
Algren Cole
you have to realize that in a forum like this the moderators are normally ultra nerds without any type of social setting outside of the box that sits under their desk. Often times they were picked on as children and had very few friends...fast forward 10 years to the internet....where every ultra nerd is now instantly the coolest kid on the block. Moderators abuse power, they always have and always will....it's unfortunate, but it's part of a forum.
Diomedes
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Starting these sorts of threads shows a basic lack of respect for a moderator. When you sign up for a website, you sign up to be under the control of a mod who is answering to the site owners, not the people bashing you on a thread.
Just my thoughts on the matter...
-Diomedes
Teklord
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Originally Posted by Kuku Monk
As for PMs. Not good enough, if one disagrees with a decision... espcially a decision that could easily be interpreted as questionable one should have the right to call that out in the public eye. Just because the power is there, does not make the Gods. Anyone watch Stargate?
I'm suddenly getting the urge to start placing bets as to how long this topic itself shall last. I find though that some people in this world will reject plainly any view other than their own, and that it is a waste of time and resources to even attempt to point that out.
salja Wachi
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Originally Posted by Diomedes
I am a mod on a few other boards (obviously not this one). Rule number one is /always/ if you have an issue with a mod, take it up with that mod, don't start general discussion threads about it. In the same way, if I had a problem with a person, I would talk to them rather than talk about them behind their back.
Starting these sorts of threads shows a basic lack of respect for a moderator. When you sign up for a website, you sign up to be under the control of a mod who is answering to the site owners, not the people bashing you on a thread.
Just my thoughts on the matter...
-Diomedes
that is why I did not name names nor give certain examples. i am not here to embarrass anyone nor to place blame. I am here to try to get it to change
Starting these sorts of threads shows a basic lack of respect for a moderator. When you sign up for a website, you sign up to be under the control of a mod who is answering to the site owners, not the people bashing you on a thread.
Just my thoughts on the matter...
-Diomedes
that is why I did not name names nor give certain examples. i am not here to embarrass anyone nor to place blame. I am here to try to get it to change
ddoogle
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Originally Posted by Diomedes
I am a mod on a few other boards (obviously not this one). Rule number one is /always/ if you have an issue with a mod, take it up with that mod, don't start general discussion threads about it. In the same way, if I had a problem with a person, I would talk to them rather than talk about them behind their back.
Starting these sorts of threads shows a basic lack of respect for a moderator. When you sign up for a website, you sign up to be under the control of a mod who is answering to the site owners, not the people bashing you on a thread.
Just my thoughts on the matter...
-Diomedes I am a member of many different forums and Mods dont always do thing that the OWNER would do, some i have seen abuse it and it should be taken up with the OWNER not the mod that is personaly attacking you, closing threads etc..., because i very much doubt he will admit being wrong.
Starting these sorts of threads shows a basic lack of respect for a moderator. When you sign up for a website, you sign up to be under the control of a mod who is answering to the site owners, not the people bashing you on a thread.
Just my thoughts on the matter...
-Diomedes I am a member of many different forums and Mods dont always do thing that the OWNER would do, some i have seen abuse it and it should be taken up with the OWNER not the mod that is personaly attacking you, closing threads etc..., because i very much doubt he will admit being wrong.
The Great Al
("there are some moderators here that have very strong opinions on issues brought up in the forums. In and of itself this is a good thing. However I have also noticed that in certain instances after a few posts disagree with them they give their last post, put in a small flame or 2 then close the topic with the OP not able to either defend himself, nor counter the argument"
I completely agree, i once PM'd a mod almost with that exact same statement.
There really are a few mods here who...to put it nicely, and without stating names, need to start doing a few things outside of these boards
I completely agree, i once PM'd a mod almost with that exact same statement.
There really are a few mods here who...to put it nicely, and without stating names, need to start doing a few things outside of these boards
Mumblyfish
In the case of moderators closing discussions because one side is refusing to see their point of view (hello, ddoogle), I've found that the moderator is, in fact, right. It's not opinion, it's right and wrong. No point keeping a discussion open if it's simply the "right" people throwing facts and numbers at the "wrong" brick wall to no avail.
Last I checked, correct spelling and grammar is a rule at Guild Wars Guru. The moderators are simply enforcing the rules, and making the forums more enjoyable for those of that can type. Run a spellchecker, look up a dictionary... bloody Hell, you're on the Internet! There's no excuse.
Last I checked, correct spelling and grammar is a rule at Guild Wars Guru. The moderators are simply enforcing the rules, and making the forums more enjoyable for those of that can type. Run a spellchecker, look up a dictionary... bloody Hell, you're on the Internet! There's no excuse.
LoneDust
If you can't stand the heat, get off the internet.
IMO, There are so many things wrong with ddoogle's argument (ie comparing a specific class combo "war/mo" with a very general weapons mod), many people just roll their eyes and go read the next thread.
IMO, There are so many things wrong with ddoogle's argument (ie comparing a specific class combo "war/mo" with a very general weapons mod), many people just roll their eyes and go read the next thread.
salja Wachi
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Originally Posted by LoneDust
If you can't stand the heat, get off the internet.
IMO, There are so many things wrong with ddoogle's argument (ie comparing a specific class combo "war/mo" with a very general weapons mod), many people just roll their eyes and go read the next thread. I ask you to please not name names in here once again.
this is a topic for people to let their vews be known on mod behavior not flaming posters or mods. no names please
IMO, There are so many things wrong with ddoogle's argument (ie comparing a specific class combo "war/mo" with a very general weapons mod), many people just roll their eyes and go read the next thread. I ask you to please not name names in here once again.
this is a topic for people to let their vews be known on mod behavior not flaming posters or mods. no names please
Slade xTekno
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Originally Posted by salja Wachi
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Originally Posted by salja Wachi
I ask you to please not name names in here once again.
this is a topic for people to let their vews be known on mod behavior not flaming posters or mods. no names please We can't talk about ddoogle's horrible topic when you pointed it out youself? ddoogle
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Originally Posted by LoneDust
If you can't stand the heat, get off the internet.
IMO, There are so many things wrong with ddoogle's argument (ie comparing a specific class combo "war/mo" with a very general weapons mod), many people just roll their eyes and go read the next thread. nothing is wrong with peoples opinions what are you....hitler?, this is a forum. The Great Al
ok, so then..the problem is the mods who make some of these rules....for example i remember in the trading forum that one of the mods has like a pet peeve or something for people using the word 'godly', so now all threads with that are closed, even though 'godly' is a lot easier than writing 15>50, perf mods, health +30
Algren Cole
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Originally Posted by Mumblyfish
Last I checked, correct spelling and grammar is a rule at Guild Wars Guru. The moderators are simply enforcing the rules, and making the forums more enjoyable for those of that can type. Run a spellchecker, look up a dictionary... bloody Hell, you're on the Internet! There's no excuse. I'd hate to be your friend in real life...sitting down to enjoy a beer late one night and listening to your pompous ass correct every minute statement. btw "look up a dictionary" is an incomplete sentence and "spellchecker" is two wrods (spell checker) or hyphenated (spell-checker)...there is no excuse for it. ddoogle
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Originally Posted by Slade xTekno
I hope you read his posts in that topic; the last few were of a subpar quality.
subpar....quality??? who cares what i say??people should be alound to voice their opinion, i didnt insult people personally and stop them posting did i?
Manderlock
Threads like this pop up all the time, mostly because people get pissed off that they where not able defend themselves.
Ive started afew of these threads myself, but you will find that PMs will garner a better result. salja Wachi
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Originally Posted by Slade xTekno
I hope you read his posts in that topic; the last few were of a subpar quality.
EDIT: We can't talk about ddoogle's horrible topic when you pointed it out youself? I could care less about his position on the matter. what i do care about is the flame from the mod then the closure of the topic. once again i ask you not to flame in this topic or name names. Rothgar
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This is a message board, not an AOL chatroom. As such, you have all the time necessary to articulate your posts in a coherent matter. "You" is only two more letters than "u", it won't kill you to type them. Completely illegible posts are subject to moderation - and I can't guarantee their accuracy of 'translating' the authors original message, if you get my drift. When one punctuation works (like a ?) instead of 10 (like ?!?!), use one. Beside, if someone can't take the time to at least make an attempt (just an attempt) to properly capitialize and use correct grammer, they obviously don't value their own posts, so why should anyone else? Those posts need to be closed. The mods are doing a very decent job in moderating the fourms. I've seen people very heatly disagree with some of the mods over issues, and those threads ran for a long time. However, the persion disagreing with the mod actually made logical arguments and articulated (and wrote) very well. If your posts get closed, show that YOU VALUE YOUR OWN posts, articulate/write well, and post logical arguments next time. And on a futher note, I quickly see this thread as becoming a flame fest that that the mods should close when it does.
Slade xTekno
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Originally Posted by salja Wachi
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Originally Posted by ddoogle
its crap full stop..
... lol your think stipid little numbers like ... BULL! Please realize that the mods a lot of work trying to find the numbers of this game. A post like this is likely to garner negativity. And ddoogle, posts should not only state your opinion but be constructive. ddoogle
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Originally Posted by Algren Cole
I'd hate to be your friend in real life...sitting down to enjoy a beer late one night and listening to your pompous ass correct every minute statement.
btw "look up a dictionary" is an incomplete sentence and "spellchecker" is two wrods (spell checker) or hyphenated (spell-checker)...there is no excuse for it. who cares, maybe i dont want to be your friend  why the hate because i have made my own mind up... you should accept people for being their own person and beliving what they will, dont have to say things like " hate to be your friend in real life"...
The Great Al
no, i think that's ridiculous...as long as the post is legible and clearly able to be read, proper capitalization and the correct use of semicolons and dangling participles isnt going to help much....we're all (mostly) adults here, i think we can figure out what people are trying to say without speaking like miss manners. If we wanted to, we probably could, but there's really no reason to.
Originally Posted by Rothgar
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Beside, if someone can't take the time to at least make an attempt (just an attempt) to properly capitialize and use correct grammer, they obviously don't value their own posts, so why should anyone else? Those posts need to be closed. The mods are doing a very decent job in moderating the fourms. I've seen people very heatly disagree with some of the mods over issues, and those threads ran for a long time. However, they actually made logical arguments and articulated (and wrote) very well. If your posts get closed, show that YOU VALUE your posts, articulate/write well, and post logical arguments next time. And on a futher note, I quickly see this thread as becoming a flame fest that that the mods should close when it does.
Algren Cole
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Originally Posted by Rothgar
From the rules:
Beside, if someone can't take the time to at least make an attempt (just an attempt) to properly capitialize and use correct grammer, they obviously don't value their own posts, so why should anyone else? Those posts need to be closed. The mods are doing a very decent job in moderating the fourms. I've seen people very heatly disagree with some of the mods over issues, and those threads ran for a long time. However, they actually made logical arguments and articulated (and wrote) very well. If your posts get closed, show that YOU VALUE your posts, articulate/write well, and post logical arguments next time. And on a futher note, I quickly see this thread as becoming a flame fest that that the mods should close when it does. heatly isn't a word and you spelled capitalize incorrectly...the majority of the people on this forum are pompous pontificates with no real room to discuss anothers shortcomings lingually The Great Al
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Originally Posted by ddoogle
who cares, maybe i dont want to be your friend
why the hate because i have made my own mind up... you should accept people for being their own person and beliving what they will, dont have to say things like " hate to be your friend in real life"...
ermm...that wasnt meant for you.
ddoogle
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Originally Posted by Slade xTekno
The mod summed it up well with this.
Please realize that the mods a lot of work trying to find the numbers of this game. A post like this is likely to garner negativity. And ddoogle, posts should not only state your opinion but be constructive. that was one post who cares if i belive its a bad upgrade i am debating it, i made very good posts on hundrenblades and weapon mods etc... THE FACT IS IT WAS CLOSED BECAUSE THE MOD DISAGREED WITH ME AND DIDNT LIKE IT BECAUSE I HAD A STRONG VIEW ON THE MATTER... good god some one makes a subpar post and it gets closed 
Slade xTekno
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Originally Posted by ddoogle
who cares, maybe i dont want to be your friend
why the hate because i have made my own mind up... you should accept people for being their own person and beliving what they will, dont have to say things like " hate to be your friend in real life"...
Wait, you talk about forums are where people discuss ideas, yet you already have your mind made up?
Silmor
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Originally Posted by salja Wachi
we all know that we are from different countries use different languages, I find it deplorable that mods here would flame someones grammar and spelling. that is not their job.
Mods don't flame bad grammar or spelling, they flame people who don't respect the forum enough to actually use them. They don't flame Pjotr from Moscow who struggles with the English language, they flame Billy from Los Angeles who thinks he's too awesome to take an extra minute to shape up his post so people don't get a headache reading it. It's taking an important step to upkeep the quality of this forum.
Mumblyfish
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Originally Posted by Algren Cole
btw "look up a dictionary" is an incomplete sentence and "spellchecker" is two wrods (spell checker) or hyphenated (spell-checker)...there is no excuse for it.
"Look up a dictionary" wasn't my complete sentence. I had to look this one up, and you could well be right, but "spellchecker", "spell checker" and "spell-checker" are all accepted and in the Oxford English Dictionary. However, I won't let you walk away empty handed. I had a little incorrect comma usage in the first sentence of the second paragraph.
ddoogle
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Originally Posted by Slade xTekno
Wait, you talk about forums are where people discuss ideas, yet you already have your mind made up?
becuase people in genral like ot voice what they belive in.. or should we never voice what we belive in?, not much right would happen in the world would it.
ddoogle
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Originally Posted by The Great Al
ermm...that wasnt meant for you.
sorry.
Slade xTekno
"Look up a dictionary" is a complete sentence. It's like "Stop," "Paint that fence," and "Go jump off a bridge." :O
Slade xTekno
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Originally Posted by ddoogle
becuase people in genral like ot voice what they belive in.. or should we never voice what we belive in?, not much right would happen in the world would it.
Of course we should. But in a discussion, shouldn't we be open to other opinions, like "All warriors are not W/Mo?"
The Great Al
ddoogle, it's going to be hard to put up a good argument if you keep posting stuff like that
Manderlock
Honestly who cares if I put "i" or "I" the point remains vaild. So please stop picking apart post, if it is unreadable the mods will take care of it.
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