R/Me Fragility build

one fragility will drain your energy completely. go me/r for more damage and energy. If you do that, then Tiger's Fury becomes 10 energy. Tiger's Fury=more Incendiaries=more base+frag damage. I say go with Zealous Bow, lose Arcane, replace with Power Drain i guess. Bring Illusion down to 10 and bump up Inspiration. (Keep in mind Fragility only needs to last long enough for the Incendiary Arrows to finish)

Phantom Pain at best (-3) over 10 seconds does 60 damage + 28-ish once Deep Wound triggers. [/QUOTE]

once again wrong

deep wound does 20% of max life but doesn't change the amout on dmg you have already taken. most have 500+ life which 20% is 100+ dmg.

so pp accually does 160 dmg by the time it ends

I have been running this build for about a week or so and fine tuning it along the way. I think it may be fine the way it is, yet i would like to get some help with this to make it the best that i can make it.

Attributes

Illusion - 12
Beast Mastery - 9
Expertise - 9
Marksmanship - 9

Skills

Fragility
Incendiary arrows
Tiger's Fury
Distracting Shot
Pin Down
Conjure Phantasm
Arcane Conundrum
Rez Sig


Weapons

PvP Vampiric Short Bow (Life stealing 5 Life Regen -1)
PvP Sundering Short Bow ( AP 10% Chance 10%)
both damage +15% while in a stance

Any advice i can get for tweaks to make this build much more efficient would be very much appreciated.

I was also thinking a Fragility with Apply Poison, Hunters Shot, Pin Down (to load on the conditions) and an ele with Crystal Wave to help out the killing process. Ive been using similar builds for a while. Personally I like the Mes/R version better but the R/Me offers more interrupts which is just gold. For Arena I find it easier to play as Ranger primary simply because people pay less attention to you. This is the setup I use:

Fragility
Incendiary
Tiger's
Pin Down
Throw Dirt
Savage Shot
Distracting Shot
Res Sig

12 Illusions
4 Beast Mastery
13 Expertise
12 Marks

Weapon Slot 1: Short Bow, Zealous, Armor/Health mod
Weapon Slot 2: Short Bow, Vampiric, Armor/Health mod

Strategy: get in close to your target (melee range). Slap on Fragility, he'll try to remove it... Distracting or Savage, I like Distracting since it's disabled for a while. Then Throw Dirt, Incendiary, Tiger's, Pin Down. If your team mates are any smart and focus fire, the monk will die. The rest of the other classes are never a problem. I usually go for anyhting that has DOT damage since it's brutal for you if you don't have a monk on your team (and you can't kite DOT damage).

Once I played with a Frag/Virulence mesmer. We'd focus fire and the target would just die almost instanteneously. Quite funny to watch.

Calm down... (*its only a game*) The build works, though there are a few skills I can't remember exactly, which are slots 5,6,7. The rest I remeber. This build works, and I had enough success with it to state that. Do a hunters shot with frag and incendiary on a caster. A regular shot (40-60+) + 2 conditions (60) + the condition ending (30) + 15-19 extra damage with hunters, + running target which = critical hit + the second of fire and bleeding, which is a bit more damage + 6 from force of nautre (if its in there). It is pretty close to 200 damage a shot and most casters overstock on sup ruins so it's not hard to believe they may have around 380 health which = two hit kill.

I know it blows your mind that there could be a variation of a classic build, but sometimes people can come with something half decent, I suggest you go try it yourself.

** Im almost certain I used force of nature, it seems to popup in allmy ranger primary builds except an IW r/me. I think unguent was replaced by pin-down. okay... fragility=15 energy. incentary = 5, hunters= 5. you now have 5 energy left, and a regular shot is not 40-60 damage. It is around 20 something. If the caster is not moving then there is no bleeding, then you will only have +60 from the burning. 15 damage bonus from hunters shot, that makes a little less than 100. You wasted all the energy you have for a 100 shot spike. Just go with chain lightning or something.

I know it blows your mind that there could be a variation of a classic build, but sometimes people can come with something half decent, I suggest you go try it yourself Just from the energy stand-point your build can't work. I'm very open to new ideas and builds but when it's outright obvious it can't work I won't stand there and listen to you claiming that the specified build is glorious.

Look at the energy in the build you posted consiering you have 4 expertise
Incendiary Arrows - 5 energy, becomes 4 energy
Hunter's Shot - idem
Fragility - 15 energy
Whirling - who cares, you probably won't be using it
Pin Down - 15 energy, becomes 13 energy

So the evolution of your setup goes as following during a fight
Fragility 15 energy
Incendiary 19 energy
Hunter's Shot 23 energy
Pin Down 36 energy
Energy left: 0, Now what are you supposed to do ?

My question isn't can you swing it once ? cause with the pips you should be able to. My question is your effectiveness after the first encounter and what are you supposed to do if the hex is removed ? The build I posted has 2 interrupts so at least when you're not on incendiary you're contributing to both damage and interruption, it also has very little energy problems since expertise costs were factored in

Frag Rangers suck. That's not very constructive. You claim they suck yet offer no facts to back up your claim. If your goal was to look like an negative ignorant then you sure did point that across.

Cheers

one fragility will drain your energy completely. go me/r for more damage and energy. Have you ever played a ranger before. They have quite a bit more than 15 Energy. Running expertise hi makes everything else cost a negligible amount too.

I like to also run apply poison. The instant my inc arrows runs out I charge up apply poison and start degenning the target. If you time it right you also get anothe rfrag trigger. This helps fill the gap nicely where you are waiting for inc arrows to cooldown.

That was the point.

Cheers.

But, just for arguement's sake and flaming's sake.

Why do Frag Rangers suck?

1. 8 second time period to do damage, followed by a long recharge.

2. Arrows can miss.

3. Damage based on one hex. Unless you use a cover hex. See below:

4. Unless you're running Me/R, you do not have mucho energy after you Frag one target, and much less if you use a cover hex.

5. To sum it all up, too situational. in 4-4 this works wonders since almost no one has hex removal, or guardian/aegis equivalents. running? heck most nooby squishies run to you under the impression that they can just own you 1-1. and while you wait you arent exactly useless... i mean savage shot/distracting shot anyone? that frag takes up like 3 places in your skill bar. get creative with the other 5.

but having interrupts as a meager backup... Thats why i use apply poison during the 16 second gap where inc arrows is recharging. It applys good degen to a very badly wounded target (assuming they survived the frag spike which isnt often) and triggers another frag hit. Once the target drops I like to spread the poison around to multiple foes if my inc arrows isnt recharged yet.

People who say frag rangers suck haven't played one or at least haven't played one well. They are the most damaging fragility build hands down. During that 8 seconds you are taking nearly 100dps and getting interrupted every 1.3 seconds. Not much survives that.

Arguing that fragility is useless because of hex remove isn't valid either. There are ways around hex remove. There isnt a single build in guild wars without it's achilles heel.