IWAY Rant

wsmcasey

wsmcasey

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2005

Right behind you.

HeRo

W/Rt

06 Oct 2005 at 18:49 - 41
Quote:
Originally Posted by smurfhunter
what i do hate about iway teams is it cheapens the rank system. if you consistently play with an iway team, you will get your rank 3 alot sooner than if you slaved your way through the crappy teams, and then when you go to find a rank 3 pug it turns out your just a noob that only knows how to call his opposite number and blindly attack it.

a bunch of people already said that... but its horribly annoying. because now anyone thats not rank 6 is like a total noob. give it another month... and its gonna be only rank 9+. and then... i give up.

you should have to wear like a sticker on your back if the majority of your fame was earned in an iway team. it pollutes the system
Invite me in your group and I won't have to run with IWAY groups.

smurfhunter

smurfhunter

Banned

Join Date: Aug 2005

my w/mo uses mending, orison, and healing breeze. you cant kill him.

Sand Scorpions [SS]

W/Mo

06 Oct 2005 at 18:51 - 42
Quote:
Originally Posted by wsmcasey
Invite me in your group and I won't have to run with IWAY groups.
meh my groups are sucking lately. you dont want in them lol

all my amazing monks from back when i could actually win the hall with my pug are like dead/in college.

rii

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Mar 2005

UK

06 Oct 2005 at 18:56 - 43
Do casual gamers have the time to spend up to 2 hours simply ORGANISING a decent team? The answer is no almost 100% of the time, so people need a mix of simple team builds that can be thrown together, letting the average joe play tombs and stand a chance. Thats Iway. Simple, effective, can get some success, but easily countered. Thats the bottom line to be frank.

O and smurf.... surely a system of points gained over time defeats the object of a game thats based on player skill? Thats what rank is atm, and it needs fixing tbh. Whats probably needed is stats of some sort, then it will actually be the case that someone whos played pvp well for 10 minutes can be more valid than a person whos just run iway for 6 months. Of course, it would need to be toggable on/off in district, otherwise it would get smashed by ca :S

wsmcasey

wsmcasey

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2005

Right behind you.

HeRo

W/Rt

06 Oct 2005 at 19:03 - 44
Maybe it would help if A-Net divided the Districts by rank. If your Rank 1 then you can only go to Rank 1 Districts, but if your maybe Rank 3 then you could go to Rank 1 - 3 districts. Then maybe the only time this wouldn't apply would be for Guild members or special invites from friends across Districts.

cookiehoarder

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2005

Melbourne, Florida.

[HTR]

06 Oct 2005 at 19:03 - 45
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lag Hell
theres nothing wrong with iway, it is beaten by certain teams just as all other builds are
There is everything with IWAY.
  1. Lets teh nooblars get to rank 6 very fast
  2. They don't actually learn anything
  3. Now, people that have worked HARD for their wolf are shiz out of luck, it doesn't mean anything. (T_T Me)
  4. Now you can't get a decent rank 6+ PuG. Most people are IWAYers. Now all it's about is who you know, only way to get a good group.

Yamat

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2005

San Diego, USA

06 Oct 2005 at 19:04 - 46
It is out of control... last night about 3/4 of the teams we fought were IWAY teams... it just gets boring playing against them.

cookiehoarder

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2005

Melbourne, Florida.

[HTR]

06 Oct 2005 at 19:05 - 47
Quote:
Originally Posted by Yamat
It is out of control... last night about 3/4 of the teams we fought were IWAY teams... it just gets boring playing against them.
It's not that it's boring, it's about the community IMO. Now it's polluted with rank 6 iwayers, now my wolf doesn't mean anything, and neither does anyone elses. <--Main grudge agianst IWAY

ElgonNJ27

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Sep 2005

W/Mo

06 Oct 2005 at 19:11 - 48
ahem, sorry for sounding like a noobish type( I play more of the RPG than PvP only stuff) but wtf is IWAY?

Edit
IWAY= I Will Avenge You. Figured out the acronym with SOG lol

SOG... you know. Stroke of Genius?

cookiehoarder

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2005

Melbourne, Florida.

[HTR]

06 Oct 2005 at 19:14 - 49
Quote:
Originally Posted by ElgonNJ27
ahem, sorry for sounding like a noobish type( I play more of the RPG than PvP only stuff) but wtf is IWAY?
It's a bunch of newbie warriors (6) running towards your team and letting their pets (6) die(All pets have death nova). Then necros start using Orders and the warriors hit I WILL AVENGE YOU (+3-6 health regen and +33% attack speed)

It may sound good but it really sucks.

ElgonNJ27

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Sep 2005

W/Mo

06 Oct 2005 at 19:20 - 50
Quote:
Originally Posted by cookiehoarder
It's a bunch of newbie warriors (6) running towards your team and letting their pets (6) die(All pets have death nova). Then necros start using Orders and the warriors hit I WILL AVENGE YOU (+3-6 health regen and +33% attack speed)

It may sound good but it really sucks.
Yeah, it does seem like a pretty shady tactic. I prefer groups that don't use shady tactics, but unfortunately since most of the player base are quite a bit younger than I, they don't yet understand that there's more than one way to skin a cat. They don't seem to be interested in a serious, longwinded battle so much as they do in killing an opposing team as quickly as possible. That's why I'm a bit more into the RPG aspect until I go ahead and beat the game with my Necro/Mes and my Warrior/Monk to get all those skills that I'll need to erase my current PvP builds and make better ones.

rii

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Mar 2005

UK

06 Oct 2005 at 19:20 - 51
Actually if you work out the dps its laughably good. When done properly (it usually isnt) However, there are numerous counters to warriors, which are well publisicized, and so basically the argument is a team of all warriors can be easily shutdown, therefore it sucks.

dansamy

Chasing Dragons

Join Date: May 2005

Lost in La-La Land

LFGuild

Mo/Me

06 Oct 2005 at 19:30 - 52
My guildies and I regularly run both a "serious" build and a "fun" modified IWAY. Why do we run an IWAY group, especially when we are capable players able to run more complex builds? Because if I have 5 guildies on who can take the critical positions (including target caller), I know I can find 3 nublets with at least enough brain cells to get on TS & do as they are told. I don't want to spend an hour building a team only to have 3 people rage quit when we discover the build needs tweaking.

Silly Ranger

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Sep 2005

JanKenPo

R/Mo

06 Oct 2005 at 19:30 - 53
Too many teams are IWAY and they dont involve any skill.

I dont think that getting rid of the rank/fame system would be a good idea at all! I have been working my way to rank 3 for a long time now and I know there are alot of people also proud of their ranks/fame. I never join IWAY teams because I dont want to be the "noob". If people want to join them they can but they are ruining the games for others and themselves.

If you want the best out of PvP I really think you should think about learning how to PvP not rushing into some IWAY team. You dont gain anything from using them. I agree 3/4 teams are IWAY.

I started back Ele Spike builds (or so I believe I did - In Europe atleast, dunno if Americans also use them now) but I also added something to my build. Wanna know what that skill is?

Whirlwind. Tell about 3 of your air eles to take it, stand in a ball and spam it. I have taken out IWAY teams like this and it only takes up 1 skill slot. I recommend this to people. It also involves skill not just spamming. If you use Ww at the same time it will only knock them down once.

I think nufing IWAY is actually a good idea though (imo). Then teams will be balanced. Ele spike builds can be killed, not sure about minion teams though? Although, at least you dont see 100s of them!

Also, I think the whole rank 1 teams vs rank 1 teams and rank 2 teams vs rank 2 teams is a good idea. Then one for mixed teams. Would be like GvG. Trys to find a team with the same total rank. Infact, I feel that is a very good idea. I think GW should add that! - I dunno if the staff actually check this kind of stuff out though?

cookiehoarder

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2005

Melbourne, Florida.

[HTR]

06 Oct 2005 at 20:10 - 54
Quote:
Originally Posted by ElgonNJ27
Yeah, it does seem like a pretty shady tactic. I prefer groups that don't use shady tactics, but unfortunately since most of the player base are quite a bit younger than I, they don't yet understand that there's more than one way to skin a cat. They don't seem to be interested in a serious, longwinded battle so much as they do in killing an opposing team as quickly as possible. That's why I'm a bit more into the RPG aspect until I go ahead and beat the game with my Necro/Mes and my Warrior/Monk to get all those skills that I'll need to erase my current PvP builds and make better ones.
If IWAY wasn't such a cheap way to get fame I wouldn't mind it. But like Le big mac says, it cheapens the rank system, and therefore it makes my wolf look like...A rabbit or something, and me a newbie sometime. I remember when I first got my wolf. It actually meant something.

rii

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Mar 2005

UK

06 Oct 2005 at 21:01 - 55
People could be proud of stats ratings, which could easily invovle everyones *beloved* /fame icons. Its just that it would be an actual measure of skill as opposed to the general situation is now, which is how much fotm played. And, as mentioned, you wouldnt have to spend that long doing it to get equally 'cool' rewards.

wsmcasey

wsmcasey

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2005

Right behind you.

HeRo

W/Rt

06 Oct 2005 at 21:16 - 56
Sure, Im only Rank 1 with no emote, but does it really matter that much to have an emote? I didn't get an emote for completing the game with 3 characters in PvE.

rii

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Mar 2005

UK

06 Oct 2005 at 21:18 - 57
Some of the people in this game really really care.

Im rank 1, and barely ever get a group, then i get told im a noob by some idiot with mending when i do. So i leave, and just go to the ca and spend all day killing things, and wait for guild members to come on who arent goddam idiots.

Did i say really?

dansamy

Chasing Dragons

Join Date: May 2005

Lost in La-La Land

LFGuild

Mo/Me

06 Oct 2005 at 22:05 - 58
I don't think IWAY is nearly as cheap a way to get fame/rank as you're making it out to be. I've rarely lost to a random PUG IWAY, and I've deserved to lose when I did. Also, my guild's IWAY modification works quite well as long as the randoms we get do what they are told to do. It requires at least the 5 of us to be thinking, sentient beings capable of doing more than tab + space.

Autumn_Leaf

Autumn_Leaf

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2005

Taunton, Mass.

06 Oct 2005 at 23:09 - 59
i just hate the fact that half the players in tombs is spamming iway warrior lfg, an necro lf iway, but thats just me.

it just seems that people can't seem to think for themselves. they just latch on to the FOTM. but there are reasons for this.
a. people can always get into this group
b. not much skill or coordination needed
c. fame/rank farming( yes more farming/mindless grinding )
c(cont.) "skilled people" mostly look for only rank 3+, in international r6+. to me thats just ridiculous. i'm only r2 atm and am able to create almost anybuild needed/ able to cooperate with members, but still get rejected cause i'm not r3. r6 would take me like 2 months to get.

Silly Ranger

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Sep 2005

JanKenPo

R/Mo

06 Oct 2005 at 23:22 - 60
They all say you must be rank 3+, yeah its annoying BUT it shows people that you know what to do in tombs and you are experianced. Its easy for people to say, Yeah, im rank 2 153 fame blahaha.

smurfhunter

smurfhunter

Banned

Join Date: Aug 2005

my w/mo uses mending, orison, and healing breeze. you cant kill him.

Sand Scorpions [SS]

W/Mo

06 Oct 2005 at 23:27 - 61
Quote:
Originally Posted by wsmcasey
Sure, Im only Rank 1 with no emote, but does it really matter that much to have an emote? I didn't get an emote for completing the game with 3 characters in PvE.
probably cause its pathetically easy.

and yea someone said in a game thats theoretically 'based on skill not on hours played'.. the idea of a rank emote gained by slowly piling up fame is.... kind of not right.

maybe they do need to revamp the fame system....

wouldnt it be just funny if there was no rank 12? and anet was just too bitchy to tell anyone.. i would laugh at the guy with 15k fame if that was true...

Signet of Humility

Signet of Humility

Academy Page

Join Date: Oct 2005

06 Oct 2005 at 23:35 - 62
Quote:
Originally Posted by smurfhunter
probably cause its pathetically easy.

and yea someone said in a game thats theoretically 'based on skill not on hours played'.. the idea of a rank emote gained by slowly piling up fame is.... kind of not right.

maybe they do need to revamp the fame system....

wouldnt it be just funny if there was no rank 12? and anet was just too bitchy to tell anyone.. i would laugh at the guy with 15k fame if that was true...
if that was true id be sad for lulu

although
my iway rant is none at all....
Free Fame?!?!
hell yea
i saw microsoft excel run an iway which won hoh for quite a few rounds

it was pretty funny

Fain

Fain

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Sep 2005

Depends, if the dot below my name is green, im here, if not, im not here.

The Choas Crusaders (TCc)

07 Oct 2005 at 00:19 - 63
Heh, ill just lie and say im like, rank 7+ or some crap like that with 1046 fame... see how many invites I get. :P

Knight of Eternal Darknes

Knight of Eternal Darknes

Banned

Join Date: Jul 2005

Cali

Cerebral Assassins[Assn]

W/E

07 Oct 2005 at 00:39 - 64
Quote:
Originally Posted by Fain
Heh, ill just lie and say im like, rank 7+ or some crap like that with 1046 fame... see how many invites I get. :P


they'll ask you to do /rank

Axle_Fieshe

Banned

Join Date: May 2005

Mo/W

07 Oct 2005 at 01:00 - 65
IWAY is easy to beat. Only unexperienced people think they should nerf it cause they lose to it.

Sum Gai

Sum Gai

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2005

Toronto

Me/

07 Oct 2005 at 01:58 - 66
Don't nerf IWAY, leave it as it is. That way all the noobs can play their beloved build, and I'll just run in with my friends and pwn them all

Just to show how easy it is, I have a TRUE STORY

On October the 5th, there was a big server crash, and loads of people everywhere got Error 7. I was tombsing at that time, when 6 of my party members disconnect. So its just me and the monk. We just beat the ghosts, so we went the the Underworld, saw that we had 2 Mage Hench, 2 Healer Hench, 1 Fighter Hench and Archer Hench. Long story short, we fought our way up to the Courtyard (the 3 team Altar map with priests). Anyways, 1 team was Hench heavy, like us, and the other was a FULL IWAY team. They had all 8 players. We rushed altar, fought off the hench team, took out their Hero while the IWAY team ran around killing everyone's priest. The other hench team lost, so it was us, our 6 henchies, against the full IWAY team. They rushed us, we took out their hero, they lost. A full IWAY team lost to 2 real players and 6 henchmen. Haha.

domino69

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Aug 2005

R/Me

07 Oct 2005 at 12:43 - 67
i quote: "...I dont plan on spending hours and hours and hours just to find a group and get 0 or 2 morale and lose the first battle to some stupid IWAY group that formed in 30 seconds. It is an insult to my intelligence...."



no wonder he wants it nerfed...

he can't get past the first IWAY grp he meets, even if these IWAY grps were mindless and involved no strategy according to him...

hahahahahahaha...

how noobilar can that be...destroyed in the underworld by a no-strategy-hack-and-slash-mindless build...

u must suck big time

franning

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2005

Down Under Lions Arch

Simpleng Manyakis [sM]

Me/N

07 Oct 2005 at 13:33 - 68
try spiteful spirit it does wonders.

Dargull

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jul 2005

07 Oct 2005 at 14:02 - 69
Quote:
Originally Posted by SirGanksAlot
And people running iway builds ARE the noobiest of all noobs. It has nothing to do with my personal opinion... but anyone running a build requiring no strategy, which itself THRIVES on blind invites... and basicly spits at everything veteran oriented about the game.. is infact.. the Noobiest of all Noobiest things. This is simply common sense.
Go check page 3 of the ladder see my guild there, now having confirmed we are not n00bs (cause trust me we don't run iway in GvG).

I Have a sad message for you we run IWAY in tombs quite often, we defeat crappy other iway's with it, we've eaten that funny 6 necro build with it, and i laugh in the face of hexes, won and held halls with it and always we still run into something that manages to beat it.

So yes Iway is powerfull build, but only in the hands of capable players, total n00bs will never take iway to halls unless they get skipped there (and they'll loose). And Fame is non important it's about winning Halls and seeing your name there and about GvG and getting on top of the ladder. I'm pretty sure that non of the top players out there care anything about fame really, they care about winning and having fun doing so.

To me you sound like someone who's been beaten by iway a lot and is frustrated with it. Get over it.

Guizzy

Guizzy

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2005

Quebec

Me/E

07 Oct 2005 at 14:20 - 70
Of course; of course. But many great players are not getting even close to being one of the "top players" thanks to the fame system throwing them back in the mud.

As has been said countless times; we KNOW IWAY's weak with those stupid PUGs playing it. It's simply better than a random blind invite group. And random blind invite groups are mostly the groups Rank 0 to Rank 2 people get in. They get beaten by IWAY (and NOT because they're bad; but because the only groups that accept them are disorganised groups filled with paladin Whammos who think they're here to tank), they don't get rank, they don't get good groups, they get beaten by IWAY, and so on...

Their own skill does not matter; people look at rank, which is a flawed measurement. It's not because they're bad; it's because everyone assumes that few fame = bad, so they get into bad groups exclusively (the ones with the players NO ONE wants, because they are indeed bad; the ones that don't plan or use over-simplified tactics such as: "All hit called target!")

Dargull

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jul 2005

07 Oct 2005 at 14:28 - 71
Quote:
Originally Posted by Guizzy
They get beaten by IWAY (and NOT because they're bad; but because the only groups that accept them are disorganised groups filled with paladin Whammos who think they're here to tank), they don't get rank, they don't get good groups, they get beaten by IWAY, and so on...
Not entirely true, i got into to good groups when i was rank 0 as well, and i know for afact that there are good players out there who have know problems taking a r0 with them for as long as he can run what they want him too and can take orders.

Oh and everyone should have vent that alone will double your chances of getting into a group.

Guizzy

Guizzy

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2005

Quebec

Me/E

07 Oct 2005 at 14:40 - 72
I've waited for hours trying to find a group, with NO ONE even considering me except Blind Invite groups. Now, I make my own groups (with much success); but not everyone is able to lead a group.

That said; IWAY's not the problem here. I've said it countless times and I'll say it again: it's rank elitism (we only take ranks 3+/6+/9+) and groups that don't review their players before invite.

And if you asked me to run what YOU want, I'd immediately leave your group. You can ask me if I can fill a function in the group, but if I answered to your offer (or the other way around if you answered to mine), it's because I am an expert at filling that function. It is very arrogant of you to believe you know how to do my job better than I. For instance, if the group leader told me: "Ditch Ice Prison; get Shard Storm instead.", I'd be laughing all the way to the "leave group" button. Now, if you asked for a Warder and I'm not running Ward against Harm, you'd be justified. But when you ask a healer and get a healer; it's very rude to tell him his job.

And you're right about Vent. I always open a Vent room somewhere for my groups; even if it's not used. I still take players that don't have Vent, but many good players will not enter groups that don't have it. It usually shows that there is a will to have some teamwork in the group.

smurfhunter

smurfhunter

Banned

Join Date: Aug 2005

my w/mo uses mending, orison, and healing breeze. you cant kill him.

Sand Scorpions [SS]

W/Mo

07 Oct 2005 at 15:07 - 73
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dargull
Not entirely true, i got into to good groups when i was rank 0 as well, and i know for afact that there are good players out there who have know problems taking a r0 with them for as long as he can run what they want him too and can take orders.

Oh and everyone should have vent that alone will double your chances of getting into a group.
if i see a rank 0 in a pug where everyone is at least rank 6 that person has either
1) slept with the leader of the group last night
2)knows some kind of dirty secret about the leader of the pug.

seriously no pug will take a rank 0 unless they know him personally or were forced too.

oh and to the other guy above me.... umm.... ive been leader of a bunch of groups, and in many cases i will tell people specifically what to run. in many cases they even ask me what they should take, but the reasoning is that they dont know what the other group is running, so if they went and made whatever they wanted it wouldnt work too well. like in your specific case, ice prison is removed if the dude takes fire damage... how do you know there wasnt a fire ele in the group? anyway thats the idea behind it. and normally, other than specifying elites and stuff, i dont touch other peoples builds unless theres something glaringly wrong or i want them to run a specific build. like if i go in tombs and i notice that ___ isnt doing his job, ill ask for his build and try to see if theres something wrong over there.

what REALLY pisses me off are people that just wont change a certain skill. and the times when i switch roles in a group and the guy who switched with me sucks in what i was doing

Yukito Kunisaki

Yukito Kunisaki

Forge Runner

Join Date: Mar 2005

Chicago, IL

W/N

07 Oct 2005 at 15:23 - 74
I have guildmates and run a guild where without vent, we still rock people to death...

[the only problem was telling teammates who to interrupt cause there wasn't a ctrl+click way to communicate it. Until now...!!! ]

Can anyone tell me what vent is needed for now? I can't tell...

There's hexes on you? Ctrl+click
You're hexing an enemy? Ctrl+click
You're moving to this position and using a trap? map ping, draw, ctrl+click
You're using enchantments on THIS teammate? Ctrl + Click
You're doing a combo of hexes? Ctrl + click
*the teammate you're doing the combo with should know this before the fight, good preparation beats in-game communication*
You're pinballing? Ctrl + Click, repeat
Enemy is using a skill you want stopped? Ctrl + click the skill up top YAYAY!!!!
Enemy is moving here? ctrl+shift+click, draw map, map ping...
Enemy is camping/guarding? ctrl+shift+click, map ping 2x

Multi-pinging codes and the like can REALLY save on teammate communication skills...

Want your teammates to move here? ctrl+shift+click, draw map, ping...
Want other half to move? repeat with other group, draw map, ping...

I honestly no longer see a use for vent since words can't be conveyed in the RAW detail that this game's "non type/speak" communication system is for...

tafy69

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2005

N/Me

07 Oct 2005 at 18:18 - 75
While the Rank groups are a bit elitist, they do indeed work!

Fame is there to easily prove you have experience in the tombs, instead of the leader needing to activate a ward against noobs and question them on their build etc

Basically a rank groups works like this..

Need R3+ interupt mesmer

Mesmer joins and flashes his rank and then your ready to go, theres no questions like have u unlocked this skill yet or whats ur skillbar etc

Not sure im making sense here but in short Rank3+ shows experience in tombs, doesnt matter if its from iway or guild or random team. A R3+ player in GENERAL is gonna know the maps, alter, relic etc and he will listen to the leader.

Instead of taking away fame maybe make all PVP Character UAS, cos most new people dont have most skills unlocked and therefore are limited to playing 1 character only hence why iway is so prevelent.

wsmcasey

wsmcasey

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2005

Right behind you.

HeRo

W/Rt

07 Oct 2005 at 18:35 - 76
Maybe I'm not understanding something here since I haven't been doing PvP that long. If you make it to rank 3 exclusively with an iway warrior, then delete that character and make a mesmer for the first time, then aren't you basically a newb mesmer with a +3 rank? So, the ranking system only shows you have experience playing some of the maps, but not that you necessarily have experience at any specific build since you can change your character an infinite number of times. It's really silly to even judge based on rank, it would make more sense if you could judge based on the amount of experience a person has with a specific build imo.

Knight of Eternal Darknes

Knight of Eternal Darknes

Banned

Join Date: Jul 2005

Cali

Cerebral Assassins[Assn]

W/E

07 Oct 2005 at 19:48 - 77
how are you going to judge based on experience on someone you don't know, i could have made a mesmer in a week and be in tombs or use a pvp character and say i have a lot of experience with mesmer, whats to stop a player from lying that they're experienced to get into a group

dansamy

Chasing Dragons

Join Date: May 2005

Lost in La-La Land

LFGuild

Mo/Me

07 Oct 2005 at 20:02 - 78
Quote:
Originally Posted by smurfhunter
if i see a rank 0 in a pug where everyone is at least rank 6 that person has either
1) slept with the leader of the group last night
2)knows some kind of dirty secret about the leader of the pug.

seriously no pug will take a rank 0 unless they know him personally or were forced too.

Well, you can just call me GW's biggest 'ho, then. My 2nd account is regularly taken into groups of both r3+ and r6+ players. Sometimes I already know the leader, sometimes I don't. Some of them know I am on a 2nd account and my primary is an r5, some don't know until we're well into the round and they think to ask me what rank I am. (BTW, that skill Flirt....is awesome! )

dansamy

Chasing Dragons

Join Date: May 2005

Lost in La-La Land

LFGuild

Mo/Me

07 Oct 2005 at 20:17 - 79
Quote:
Originally Posted by Knight of Eternal Darknes
how are you going to judge based on experience on someone you don't know, i could have made a mesmer in a week and be in tombs or use a pvp character and say i have a lot of experience with mesmer, whats to stop a player from lying that they're experienced to get into a group
Exactly. I got to r3 on air spike and smite. I got from r3 to r5 almost purely on prot monk & lingering curse necro. Am I qualified to run a good shut-down mesmer? Hell no! I prefer to stick with what I know. I am good at lingering, prot and wards. I am capable of running a ranger interrupt spiker, but I suck at target calling. I rock at prot but bite at healing. Asking me to heal is like signing your own suicide note. Quite frankly, I don't care to learn to heal properly in PvP. There are plenty of healers out there. The current system, however, just shows that I have a rank of 3-5, 6-8, 9-11 and etc. It doesn't show you how I got it. It doesn't tell you if I am capable of running build X that you need. You have to rely on my honesty in that. And we all know everyone's completely truthful on the internet, right?!?!?

Silly Ranger

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Sep 2005

JanKenPo

R/Mo

07 Oct 2005 at 20:30 - 80
People with the rank 3 title should know that going into tombs with a brand new builds isnt a good idea.

I always test the at TA with my guild or at Competative Arena.