Whats up with Virgoods?

TheGuildWarsPenguin

TheGuildWarsPenguin

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2005

Los Angeles, California

Picnic Pioneers

E/

In tombs and Competition arena, i see random people spamming the same message about virgoods.com and saying something about buying GW gold.
Anyone else notice this?

Pandelume

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Feb 2005

They were spamming pre-Searing Ascalon City as well a couple of nights ago, in districts 1 and 2. Quite annoying. Reminded me of the spambots that took over Battle.net. The horror...the horror...

Aracos79

Aracos79

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2005

The Great Southwest

Shadowstorm Mercenaries

E/

As long as they stay out of mission areas, I could care less about them. Who unmutes their general chat in towns anymore anyway? :P

Experiment_Jon

Experiment_Jon

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2005

Band Geeks

W/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Aracos79
As long as they stay out of mission areas, I could care less about them. Who unmutes their general chat in towns anymore anyway? :P
I keep my general chat on...but usually dont pay attention to it :P

Warskull

Site Contributor

Join Date: Jul 2005

[out]

They are spam-bots of a company that sells gold. Why they try and advertise in tombs I do not know. PvP chars really need gold.

Legendary Battousai

Legendary Battousai

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2005

CA

[Ryuk]

W/A

WTS 100 Plats for 10000 faction!

conker

conker

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2005

nowhere

none

there are alot of them during the day (bout 5 in popular districts in tombs) and 2 of them are probably bots, the other 3 are just ppl that likes to piss ppl off and is copying the bots :P i know this becuz i had a convo w/ one lo

beleg curudin

beleg curudin

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2005

Durance of Fate [DoF]

R/

Well I report everyone of them I see, so I would advise you do not do it to annoy as these accounts get banned.

Charcoal Ann

Charcoal Ann

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

In a World of BADGERS!

Eternal Flame Brotherhood

and on that matter. you notice that they are having a sale this weekend?? i've already got myself 400k. be quick before its all sold out!!

j/k please don't ban me *cowers behind sofa, trembling in fear*

they are really starting to get on my nerves. 5 i've reported so far. how many people must actually buy gold for it to be profitable to keep buying so many accounts? it MUST be profitable what they are doing.

TheGuildWarsPenguin

TheGuildWarsPenguin

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2005

Los Angeles, California

Picnic Pioneers

E/

Someone told me in tombs that you get a keylogger if you went there and i did to check it out.

Tactical-Dillusions

Tactical-Dillusions

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2005

Grimsby, UK

R/

Don't go to the websites guys, just to be sure.

Send support a ticket and get them out of the community.

I'm going Bot hunting again.

Draygo Korvan

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2005

Mo/Me

I wonder if anet could put some code in to flag accounts who say the word virgoods.com ingame. That way the support guys can take a look and take quick action against anyone from that website advertising.

Zaklex

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2005

San Jose, CA, USA

Remnants of Ascalon

A.net is actively pursuing these botters and appreciates all of the help from those that continue to report them. Any more detailed information would have to come from Gaile herself.

smurfhunter

smurfhunter

Banned

Join Date: Aug 2005

my w/mo uses mending, orison, and healing breeze. you cant kill him.

Sand Scorpions [SS]

W/Mo

just one thing i wanted to say here - unless you really plan on buying from them, dont go to virgoods.com... all it does is increase the amount of money they get from advertising as well as encourage them to continue botting.

Hanuman li Tosh

Hanuman li Tosh

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Sep 2005

garden of the gods, CO

Over Powered

N/

Quote:
Originally Posted by beleg curudin
Well I report everyone of them I see, so I would advise you do not do it to annoy as these accounts get banned.
no, they dont.

IxChel

IxChel

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Apr 2005

http://sof-guild.com/

Servants of Fortuna

Mo/R

I saw advertised (about a month ago) that you could "buy" guild-wars accounts with all skills unlocked... for only $499.

Align

Align

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Oct 2005

Protectors of Awesome[AWE]

W/

Since it goes against the EULA, couldn't they contact the ISP that hosts that site and legally force them to take it down?

Aracos79

Aracos79

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2005

The Great Southwest

Shadowstorm Mercenaries

E/

As we've discussed many times, those aspects of EULA's are difficult to legally enforce. Sure ANet can close the accounts, but taking down the websites? I don't think so. Otherwise all the other auction and sales sites would already be sanctioned. The only thing you can do is not give them any business. If they don't make a profit, they'll go away.

Kalt

Kalt

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Aug 2005

I've encounter one in Competition arena, it was spamming some crappy site about getting free Ipods and all, you know the kind of site where you get attacked by pop ups until your computer crashes.

First I thought it was a human player but the next day it was still there pamming so it was probably a bot or a person with no life.

kawaii_bat

kawaii_bat

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Sep 2005

Canada, Gatineau

None

Mo/R

Quote:
Originally Posted by beleg curudin
Well I report everyone of them I see, so I would advise you do not do it to annoy as these accounts get banned.
Actually you're very wrong.
The more ppl report them, the more chances they will be banned if they get enough complaints.

Simply because someone is an A-hole one day does not mean that 1-report will get that A-hole banned/suspended. If he got 3-4 reports then that's a sure *I am a jerk* sign he's painting.

Same thing with in-game vendors. They change name often and move their bots around so Anet can't find them.

If ppl keep reporting them they'll be found eventually.

MSecorsky

MSecorsky

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2005

So Cal

The Sinister Vanguard

Me/

If ANet wouldn't mind sharing a little power, I'd enjoy (I have a part-time devious mind) hunting down and banning those accounts myself for a half-hour/hour every evening or two.

Shoot, I'd do it for free, just to keep this game from being Diablo-ized.

Alex, Gaile... you reading this?

Sagius Truthbarron

Sagius Truthbarron

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2005

Animal Factory [ZoO]

A/

"Congratulations on 100M GW golds sold per day!!Cheap gold $.99/1000k On SALE!!! go2 http://www.cheese.com!!"
"rofl"
"I better check out cheese.com.."
'HOW MUCH DO THEY PAY YOU TO DO THIS!?!?!"
"I might have reported you if I didn't see the cheese."
"I HOPE U DY!!"

Yeah.. Always report the people who tease.

Knight of Eternal Darknes

Knight of Eternal Darknes

Banned

Join Date: Jul 2005

Cali

Cerebral Assassins[Assn]

W/E

i've seen them around in a lot of places, i just ignore them i can care less on what they're doing as long as they leave me alone i can care less, but the thing i do hate is those b!tches that report people for like bad conduct like swearing most of the time if your in an arguement with people like them who they report you are the ones who usually start it, i think there's just to many narks in guildwars

stumpy

stumpy

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2005

Canucklehead BC, Canada

Advanced Necro Undead Society

they are called botters ... they farm cash and sell it for real life money like ige ... I see them in tombs now too ... just spamming away like every 45 seconds ... I am act5ually surprised that Anet is losing the bot battle (imo Alex) to these guys. Especially after there last interview about farming. I am sure Anet will eventually gain the upper hand in this bot battle, but in the mean time its unfortunate that the community has to put up with these marketers ... next step we will see porn ads and then pow, game over.

If you catch them spamming it just take a screenshot and send it to Anet, they will ban there accounts.

for example ... I saw virgoods.com spamming with a guy named "bot one two" kinda gives it away in his name, but i never screen capped it because I had more important thing to attend to ... (1 handed healing random pugs thrpugh thunderhead keep ... a challenge set by my guild to me) *chuckle*

MSecorsky

MSecorsky

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2005

So Cal

The Sinister Vanguard

Me/

It would be nice if distracting shot worked on spambots in town. Although I'd never get anything else done...

Sereng Amaranth

Sereng Amaranth

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2005

The Amazon Basin [AB]

Quote:
Originally Posted by stumpy
...but i never screen capped it because I had more important thing to attend to ... (1 handed healing random pugs thrpugh thunderhead keep ... a challenge set by my guild to me) *chuckle*
hey Hexin

check out my thread...
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...ad.php?t=71333

Ole Man Bourbon

Ole Man Bourbon

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jun 2005

Atlanta

GONG

W/E

You'd think they'd but an internal chat filter on to flag certain words and characters, like "virgoods" and "$," then send a CSR right to the scene of the crime to inspect.

dont feel no pain

dont feel no pain

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2005

Uk,Wales

LOL whenever i see virgoods i curse my ass off at them it;s quite funny
like this :---- OFF U MOTHER ------- DIKHEAD ----HEAD GAME ------- ----- OF CRACKHEAD ----VILE I SHOULD SHOVE THE PLATS UP YOUR ---

lol everyone laughs when i do it and i even out spam the virgoods for a laugh but they usualy win

stumpy

stumpy

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2005

Canucklehead BC, Canada

Advanced Necro Undead Society

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sereng Amaranth
heh ... I checked it out, thank you for your compliments ... but the group only won cause of the team, you played a key role at a critical moment and may have saved a costly error when the king got into the middle of the fray<? mix of things ...

Esrever

Esrever

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2005

Looking For Guild

Quote:
Originally Posted by MSecorsky
It would be nice if distracting shot worked on spambots in town.
Distracting Shot doesn't work on shouts. Arcane Theivery is a much better choice in that situation.

Anyways, I hope A-net thinks of a solution before this gets out of hand.

Diestro

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Aug 2005

Painted Post, NY

E/Me

The truely sad thing is, for them to have a service like this, and create all those accounts to do in-game advertising, they actually have to have a decent sized clientelle. I will never, ever, understand why someone would pay real money, for game money/eq that is FREE! The only thing you have to spend to get it is time. If these people buying this stuff have that much money to throw away, throw a little to your left so I can grab some. I'm sure I can find a helluva lot better ways to spend it.

Saerden

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Diestro
The only thing you have to spend to get it is time.
Time is money. 1h = 10$ for most, 1h = 200$ for some. "Time" (better the work you can do in this amount of time) is the most important thing, oil is nothing more then liquid "time" (or better work).

So let me make a calculation:
UAS costs from 300 (the amount of mindless grind hours)*10$ (the amount you could make "grinding" at some medicore job) = 3000$ to 3000*10$ if you would do an MCJob instead. Buying a fully unlocked account for 500$ leaves you with 2500$ profit AT WORST.
Note that even in places with few jobs, time can still be spend to search for good deals, lowered prices, good insurance or just education, which increases your chances to get a better job.

banishd

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2005

Ivy League [IVY]

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by dont feel no pain
LOL whenever i see virgoods i curse my ass off at them it;s quite funny
like this :---- OFF U MOTHER ------- DIKHEAD ----HEAD GAME ------- ----- OF CRACKHEAD ----VILE I SHOULD SHOVE THE PLATS UP YOUR ---

lol everyone laughs when i do it and i even out spam the virgoods for a laugh but they usualy win

What makes you better then the spammers then?
If you think cussing at a Bot is funny, Sorry but you need to get out more.

Zonzai

Zonzai

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Feb 2005

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Aracos79
Who unmutes their general chat in towns anymore anyway? :P
Exactly.

=HT=Ingram

=HT=Ingram

Forge Runner

Join Date: Feb 2005

Anchorage Alaska

Haz Team [HT]

R/W

I have been reporting them as fast as I find them... I encourage others to do the same. and they are also monitoring logs of their current stomping grounds.

From: GM Moggie & GM Jason ArenaNet Support
Quote:
Hello Ingram,

Thank you again for reporting this incident to the Guild Wars Support Team.

We have reviewed the game logs of this incident and taken the appropriate action based on the information from the logs. As previously indicated, due to our Privacy Policy (http://www.guildwars.com/privacy.html), we will not be able to provide any additional information regarding this report. That is to say, we cannot reveal what action, if any, was taken, nor if the actual violation was confirmed. However, please be assured that the Guild Wars team takes EULA and Rules of Conduct violations very seriously. We are dedicated to maintaining an enjoyable playing environment. Because the incident that you report has been handled by the Guild Wars team, we are now setting this incident to a "Closed" status.

Thanks again for submitting your report.

Regards,

The Guild Wars Support Team
How to report a violation.. OFFICIAL...
Quote:
If you encounter any players who you believe violate our guidelines with inappropriate actions, vulgar language, offensive character or guild names, advertising of cheats or exploits, or any breaches of our End User License Agreement (EULA) or Rules of Conduct, we'd like to know about it. Please note the details of the situation and use our online help tool's "Ask a Question" form at http://support.guildwars.com to send us details of the violation.

Here are some examples of violation details that you should send along with your report:

The name of the character being reported
The name of the character you were playing at the time of the encounter
The time of the incident (with time zone)
The name of the map zone where the incident took place (or even the location within the zone)
A description of the offending action, dialogue, or name
Any other details that you feel are relevant
We will use the information you have provided to investigate whether a violation of the rules has occurred. If we do find any rules have been broken, we will take action.

However, due to our Privacy Policy (http://www.guildwars.com/privacy.html), we will not be able to provide you with any details of the investigation. This means that we will not be able to confirm if any action was, or was not, taken. This is because all information related to the discovery and disciplining of an account will only be discussed between the violator and customer support.

Please be assured that the Guild Wars team takes EULA and Rules of Conduct violations very seriously. We thank you in advance for helping us maintain an enjoyable playing environment.

If you need instructions on how to use the "Ask a Question" form, our "How do I contact someone in Guild Wars Support?" Knowledge Base article may be able to help you.

For an index of our guidelines, including links to our EULA and Rules of Conduct, please go to http://www.guildwars.com/legal/.
Lastly. add them to your friends list.. I know like Why would I do that right? well its nice to see when they ban the account, as the current privacy policy prevents them telling you if they actually did so. but when you see their account change to (BANNED)... guess what? you just got a confirmation...

Thanks for helping keep the community free of RoC breakers...

=HT=Ingram.

RTSFirebat

RTSFirebat

The Humanoid Typhoon

Join Date: May 2005

UK

Servants of Fortuna [SoF]

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Saerden
Time is money. 1h = 10$ for most, 1h = 200$ for some. "Time" (better the work you can do in this amount of time) is the most important thing, oil is nothing more then liquid "time" (or better work).

So let me make a calculation:
UAS costs from 300 (the amount of mindless grind hours)*10$ (the amount you could make "grinding" at some medicore job) = 3000$ to 3000*10$ if you would do an MCJob instead. Buying a fully unlocked account for 500$ leaves you with 2500$ profit AT WORST.
Note that even in places with few jobs, time can still be spend to search for good deals, lowered prices, good insurance or just education, which increases your chances to get a better job.
Basically you summed it up right there... people buy gold off eBay and companies like this made spammer since not everyone has all the time in the world.

I for example work 40 hours a week, leaving me about 2 hours to play the game if I'm lucky... so based on the fact it would take 300 hours to get all skills unlocked that means it would take me about 150 days of playing this game every day for 2 hours to unlock it. This isn't taking mindless farming, PvP/GvG and PvE into account as well.

I hate how people say... "Why buy gold? Just farm"... not everyone is unemployeed, in school, able to play at work, or just plain has more free time then others.

I have little gold in this game since I don't have 6 free hours a day to farm for items to sell... and I have a life

So while I do agree that buying gold is now against the rules and wrong... I think I understand why people buy it... afterall some of us have better things to do in our time then play this game 16 hours a day.

zidane888

zidane888

Core Guru

Join Date: Feb 2005

Seattle WA

[Oops]

W/R

you couldn't pay me 1000k to go to that site, screams"keylogger" to me.

Charcoal Ann

Charcoal Ann

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

In a World of BADGERS!

Eternal Flame Brotherhood

i actually met a guy ingame (whilst i was extracting the urine from the spambot) who had tried to buy money from this site.
he said that they didn't deliver the money. he still seems to have his account though.

aron searle

aron searle

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Aug 2005

Mo/

Quote:
he said that they didn't deliver the money. he still seems to have his account though.
"possibly" because hes still in game, and you cant log in twice.

lyra_song

lyra_song

Hell's Protector

Join Date: Oct 2005

R/Mo

We need a quick report system in game, to report things like this instantly. T_T