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MarineCorpsDude

Academy Page

Join Date: Oct 2005

Beaufort, SC

Mo/

16 Oct 2005 at 13:59 - 1

This is a miltipronged issue but I chose this area to post in becasue it was the Guild part that really chaffed me.

Well, I'm sure most of you would have realized this and prevented it from the beginning. I've only been playing GW for about a month now. My son has been begging me to let him play, so I finally gave in and let him make a character and play (yes using my account). I was very clear when I told him HANDS OFF MY STORAGE! He is on the young side for this game so I was clear when I told him NOT to sit around in towns and chat with folks. I even told him not to worry with joining any guilds. He's in it for the PvE at the moment and not PvP. I did tell him he could invite friends into his (my) friends list. Let's face it, this game goes smoother if you adventure with people you know and can trust (playing style wise anyways)... And so it began...

Last night I had a 24 hour post so he had free run of my computer for several hours while I was away (my wife really has no clue about GW). In that time he managed to disband my current guild

and join another. You see I had started a guild, owned it, had a really cool cape, and even had some members. The members consisted of several of my friends and a few others trying to work our way up with several people looking to join 'cause they liked our motivation and helpfulness.

Moral of my story... Make you kids save their allowance and buy their own copy of the game. It isn't worth it.

UPDATE (01 Dec, 05)
My son and I have had no more problems. In fact, I have even started letting him play my Monk (Cadderly the Chosen). He does well though I do make him inform the groups that ask for me by name that he is my son. They usually coudn't care less. So everything is fine after the first initial Snafu. Thanks and enjoy the comments in this thread. Some of them are pretty funny.

Gustav Gloomp

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2005

Sydney, Australia

16 Oct 2005 at 14:07 - 2

same thing happened with my cousin. i told him not to touch my characters or spend any of my faction, next time i log in ive lost 140k!! and guess what he spentit on, ectos:|. his reason for buying the ectos? "they were expensive and i thought they could be used as grenades against bad guys"
i just RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOn went off at him when i went to his house. he dyed his ASCALON armor all black too, he filled MY characters with his junk, he spent allllll my faction points on elemental spells (he was a warrior/necro) thinking he could use em.
dont let anyone but urself play on ur own account especially kids under 14. they just dont listen.

MarineCorpsDude

Academy Page

Join Date: Oct 2005

Beaufort, SC

Mo/

16 Oct 2005 at 14:20 - 3

LOL so true. Well, I grilled him pretty good. Laid out the law again and let him know that the next time he doesn't listen he doesn't play again. Ok so then the little turd says, "Well Dad I'll could just go buy my own computer and game and play my own account then if you don't want me on yours." Sad thing is he has more money in his bank account than I do in mine.

HE COULD IF HE WANTED TO! But not without some help from old Dad (cause he's only 10 and can't actually "go get it himself") So I made him focus on the issue not the little smart mouthed albeit someone true reality. JUST FOLLOW MY RULES!

Dad can still ground you!

Gustav Gloomp

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2005

Sydney, Australia

16 Oct 2005 at 14:31 - 4

when i told my cousin what he had done he tried to act all innocent...but that wasnt gonna fool his cousin, i knew him too well. i told him that i deleted his character and he will never be able to play this great game without me sitting next to him. he started whinging telling me that i didnt tell him wat faction was and didnt help him enough to know how to play the game, but i had told him abit too much about how to play this game thats how he knew how to use the storage to transfer his stuff on my character. he told me to list all the advice i had given him so i did. it was a whole a4 size page, he then swore at me then walked away. the next day he comes over to my place, says sorry, begged me to let him play but i said no

i let him play on my WoW account though ( that game just sux).

LifeInfusion

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: May 2005

in the midline

E/Mo

16 Oct 2005 at 19:51 - 5

lol. Never share accounts unless you are sure they will listen. If you are going to share share from beginning, not from the middle so it can't get THAT screwed up.

One and Two

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Aug 2005

17 Oct 2005 at 06:44 - 6

I shared with my friend for a while. It was actually pretty cool.

D.E.V.i.A.N.C.E

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Aug 2005

Mo/

17 Oct 2005 at 09:02 - 7

I use to share my friends beta account; acually more like 3 of us on the same account at the same time... till they patched that, then it kicked whomever whenever someone new logged in.

Im glade all my cousins are girls, under the age of 12 and 300mi's away.

The Mighty Toe

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2005

Dolus Of Amicitia

E/R

17 Oct 2005 at 20:10 - 8

Whatever you do: ensure the person you share an account with has had full instruction on how to play the game before you allow them to go on. I let a person go on once. One day later, I was 15k down and had a lack of materials. I had to take the dyes and valuable weapons they had hoarded. One password change later, I'm thinking of selling this person's items and deleting their character.

Shall I or shall I not?

Lord Crom

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2005

17 Oct 2005 at 21:58 - 9

Quote:

Originally Posted by MarineCorpsDude

This is a miltipronged issue but I chose this area to post in becasue it was the Guild part that really chaffed me.

Well, I'm sure most of you would have realized this and prevented it from the beginning. I've only been playing GW for about a month now. My son has been begging me to let him play, so I finally gave in and let him make a character and play (yes using my account). I was very clear when I told him HANDS OFF MY STORAGE! He is on the young side for this game so I was clear when I told him NOT to sit around in towns and chat with folks. I even told him not to worry with joining any guilds. He's in it for the PvE at the moment and not PvP. I did tell him he could invite friends into his (my) friends list. Let's face it, this game goes smoother if you adventure with people you know and can trust (playing style wise anyways)... And so it began...

Last night I had a 24 hour post so he had free run of my computer for several hours while I was away (my wife really has no clue about GW). In that time he managed to disband my current guild

and join another. You see I had started a guild, owned it, had a really cool cape, and even had some members. The members consisted of several of my friends and a few others trying to work our way up with several people looking to join 'cause they liked our motivation and helpfulness.

Moral of my story... Make you kids save their allowance and buy their own copy of the game. It isn't worth it.

ROFL - thats hillarious.

I feel your pain - but sry it is funny.

kidRiot

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Oct 2005

Mo/Me

18 Oct 2005 at 03:50 - 10

Lol owned.

huh

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2005

Hou Lan Geng [HLG]

18 Oct 2005 at 03:54 - 11

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gustav Gloomp

same thing happened with my cousin. i told him not to touch my characters or spend any of my faction, next time i log in ive lost 140k!! and guess what he spentit on, ectos:|. his reason for buying the ectos? "they were expensive and i thought they could be used as grenades against bad guys"
i just RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOn went off at him when i went to his house. he dyed his ASCALON armor all black too, he filled MY characters with his junk, he spent allllll my faction points on elemental spells (he was a warrior/necro) thinking he could use em.
dont let anyone but urself play on ur own account especially kids under 14. they just dont listen.

AHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHA
Sorry but thats just so damn hilarious!!
Charrs?? Pffft!! Eat this! *flings an ecto bomb*

Sister Rosette

Lady Fie

Join Date: Aug 2005

Sapporo

Tha Skulls [Ts]

D/W

18 Oct 2005 at 05:11 - 12

True Moral of the Story: Kids belong outside, not on the internet.

Storm Crow

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jul 2005

With Vanatiel by the Lion's Arch Lighthouse, waiting for the storm with which we are accoustomed

Children of the Order [CoO] -True Heroes Fight to Keep the Balance-

18 Oct 2005 at 06:45 - 13

ok, for the record, not all kids are that way.

I mean, sure we've all had our spats, but I've never done anything so stupid as to go against Dad's rules of the account. The only time I touch the storage is to get domething from one account to another, get crafting materials for armor, and break into the dye once and awhile. I also occasionally get some weapons from it if it needs to go to my mesmer or my warrior. *note that I have 3 chars over the accounts we have* and I also know for a fact he doesnt want me joining any guilds (like I would anyway

) because we hate the capes.

the point is, if he does something you specifically tell him NOT to, smack him. Thats what I always got, and it worked fine for me. (and it isnt considered child abuse, unless you do it regularly and there are bruises.)

mamluk

Academy Page

Join Date: Jun 2005

Grid Sector X-223b

Carebear Club [wuv]

18 Oct 2005 at 19:36 - 14

Quote:

Originally Posted by huh

AHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHA
Sorry but thats just so damn hilarious!!
Charrs?? Pffft!! Eat this! *flings an ecto bomb*

Truly the idea of ecto bombs is absolutely hilarious. That kid must have thought they were the equivalent of nukes for the cost they did. I wonder how he responded when he couldn't throw them at the mobs.

jdwoody

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Feb 2005

Austin

18 Oct 2005 at 19:52 - 15

My son has his own account, but he doesn't know the password and he only plays when I'm there playing on the computer next to his.

(yes he has my old game machine)

Signet of Humility

Academy Page

Join Date: Oct 2005

19 Oct 2005 at 00:10 - 16

Quote:

Originally Posted by jdwoody

My son has his own account, but he doesn't know the password and he only plays when I'm there playing on the computer next to his.

(yes he has my old game machine)

Lmao
my step dad was the one who got me into online gaming

))

and to OP

LoL srry
and me being a kid myself
well...
i do and follow the rules
*at home atleast ^^ *

MarineCorpsDude

Academy Page

Join Date: Oct 2005

Beaufort, SC

Mo/

19 Oct 2005 at 01:22 - 17

Quote:

Originally Posted by jdwoody

My son has his own account, but he doesn't know the password and he only plays when I'm there playing on the computer next to his.

(yes he has my old game machine)

Not a bad I dea, My laptop is mobile, so I'll just post it next to his computer when he's on.

blacklocust

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Oct 2005

Fifth Dawn [fD]

Mo/W

19 Oct 2005 at 01:37 - 18

Sorry to hear. But when it comes down to your own account, I would suggest not giving away any kind of private info (email, pw). Sometimes, my school friends would ask me if they can borrow my account, I would always so no, no matter how close they were. It's not because I don't trust them...it's because accidents happen ^^

Hope you can recover soon!

Lexar

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2005

Organised Spam

W/

19 Oct 2005 at 16:29 - 19

A few months ago we invited an ele into our guild, she said she was 38 or something, so at first we didn't know what to think of it, but we thought any change of pace might be good in a game where most people are 15-20 year old guys. Anyway, a few days later someone pm's me, asking if I can make them officer. At first confused who it is, I check my guild list, and it's the ele's account, but another character. So I try to explain how something like that is a big responsibility, so people will have to prove themselves first, bladybla, anyway i get some sort of badly typed message about not understanding me. Turns out it's her 11 year old son who's playing another account. That wasn't part of the deal...

We kept them around, but most of the time it was that kid logging in, asking annoying questions. You have to understand, this is, in my mind, without a doubt, the absolute worst GW player I ever met. It's a necro/ranger, with no skills in the skillbar, because he thought they were weak anyway, (probably due to not using attribute points) and using an axe as main attack. Not to mention never changing armor.

Well needless to say we weren't happy about it, I mean, sure we fool around and make jokes, like telling him to go to ascalon one, and asking around for Butte Sechs, who supposedly can teach your character how to unlock the swim and jump skill, and go to the desert. It's kinda harmless fun, but eventually we had to kick him. If people join guilds, they have to say wether or not they share an account. Just so there's no surprises.

MarineCorpsDude

Academy Page

Join Date: Oct 2005

Beaufort, SC

Mo/

19 Oct 2005 at 16:33 - 20

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sister Rosette

True Moral of the Story: Kids belong outside, not on the internet.

Ok I got this sort of "attack" or comment if you will in game when I was showing my son how to play... so let me explain to you in the forums The same way I did in the game.

My response is this...

1. My son makes straight A's in school
2. Spends no less than 1 hour a day studying (home work or not)
3. Goes to Karate 2 times a week.
4. Spends Saturdays in Young Marines (boot camp at present)
5. PLays baseball when in season and foot ball when it's in season.

So, as long as he maintains those activities.. I can't Justifiably deny him video games if I myself enjoy playing them. In truth it's just one more way for us to connect and spend some time together. But I do realize there are those children that are allowed to veg in front of some sort of screen all day everyday. That's not right. I concede that point. However, that's not the case in my house.

kawaii_bat

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Sep 2005

Canada, Gatineau

None

Mo/R

19 Oct 2005 at 18:26 - 21

I was actually playing Guild wars on my boyfriends computer and account and I am now *officialy* it's actual owner cause he never plays on it

So I have 3 characters he has 1.

My storage is where I put all of my components, dyes and excess money and I told him he can take whatever he wants in it except for the *rare* components (specifies what rare is) the Silver and Black dyes and as much money as he wants unless he want to make big purcheses (which is really better to ask me for advice before doing so anyways)

All-in-all it's still going well

oh: an I specified that if every my friends PM him that he should tell them he's not me and using *this* account.

Mistress Develion

Academy Page

Join Date: Oct 2005

GRZL

R/Me

19 Oct 2005 at 19:59 - 22

My wife and I share 3 accounts.. and she actually was the one whom got me into it... she has been a fps fan for about 8 years and ive been an rpg fan since i was 6 (22 now) we go willy-nilly (couldnt think of a better term god i feel old) accross eachothers accounts.. but leave dye and gold alone.. it works cause we started it at same time (well a day apart)

Lokis

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Oct 2005

Kansas

Rejectz

Me/N

19 Oct 2005 at 20:10 - 23

Me and my wife both play toghter as well its great. I agree. We actually split one account and are adding one this week. We have a blast in our guild with each other and our guildies. And cant wait to have seperate accounts so we can play at the same time.

Ristaron

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Mar 2005

Canada, eh?

Legion Of Valhalla

E/

21 Oct 2005 at 19:30 - 24

My younger brother asked to have a character on my account.
I said "Hell No"
He offered to pay me for a slot.
I asked him "per month?"
He said "sure"
I said "Still Hell No."
"Why?"
"Because I know the stupid things you're capable of"

To this date the answer is still no.

Zenody Mudras

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Oct 2005

E/Mo

25 Oct 2005 at 19:30 - 25

My b/f let me try out the game on his account, I fell in love and got my own about a week ago. I thought, hey, here's a way we can spend some quality time with each other. WRONG! We found out we have very different game play styles. He likes to work alone and he's a big farmer. I like to quest like crazy and have people around to share in the fun and glory. Oh well, at least we spend all those hours sitting next to each other.

indigowulf

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Oct 2005

spokane, wa

HoP

R/

26 Oct 2005 at 08:31 - 26

My entire guild is built on people "trying it out" on eachothers accounts at one time or other. Guild leader got his wife addicted, they spread it to 4 other good friends, all ended up getting own accounts. Then one let me play on her account, I got my own, let my husband play on mine, he got his own. Most of us know at least 3 other peoples email/password. Never has been ANY problems. Course, all of us are all growed up lol.

Cam_Payton

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2005

Michigan

N/A

06 Nov 2005 at 07:48 - 27

My son had his own 2 accounts in Diablo 2, so he's very familiar with the do's and don't's. With him starting kindergarden this year, he uses 1 character slot on my wife's account cause I wanted him to have less computer time. While he will delete/recreate his own character depending on what he sees one of us working on at the time (he sticks with his smite monk now though, he likes it alot), he has never nor will ever delete one of her characters. He share's storage space but has never touched anything of hers. When he feels he needs gold for armor he asks us to have some and to help him buy it cuz he doesn't comprehend cost and supply needs. We give him spare dyes to keep him happy with 1 armor look by color changes. We did leave him an extra 2k for fun funds but saw him spending it on a ton of starter swords or something to the affect. He had a full inventory including bags of them. I asked him why, to which he replied "watch, you'll see." He partied with someone and a couple henchmen, went outside of Fort Ranik I think it was, and about halfway down the road he stops and starts dropping them in pile so to speak. The other guy ended up leaving, but my kid was laughing his butt off. Dunno why he thought it was so funny but o well, we don't leave him extra gold anymore lol.

Shadowdaemon

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2005

Anderson IN USA

Ecks Di [xD]

W/N

06 Nov 2005 at 08:36 - 28

Quote:

Originally Posted by indigowulf

Course, all of us are all growed up lol.

cant wait til i am all growed up, lol

but seriously, sharing accounts can lead to problems, especially with little children, imagine getting home and finding your fissure armor missing, that would be fun

Sharpe_116

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Oct 2005

The Adventurers Society

Mo/W

10 Nov 2005 at 18:49 - 29

lol... i am 15. I have shared accounts with parents, friends, everyone, Never any problems on my part. They dont tell me any rules and such BECUZ ITS COMMON SENSE, its not yours, dont touch it.... PLAIN AND SIMPLE, but sadly some people cant understand this concept. But o wellllll they haveto learn and grow

Master Oria

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2005

10 Nov 2005 at 19:58 - 30

as far as i know its against the Guild Wars User Agreement that you choose to accept when installing the game, to have more then one person play on the same account.

so probably best not to have anyone else play on your account.

Sharpe_116

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Oct 2005

The Adventurers Society

Mo/W

10 Nov 2005 at 22:29 - 31

Errrr. What would be the point against sharing, o yes i see, guild wars wants their money. Well you cant really buy a 5 year old his own copy of guild wars.... And dont go and report all these people cuz thats lame

master_ranger_matt

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Nov 2005

Salt Lake City, Utah.... no im not mormon

Radicals Against Tyrants [RAT]

R/Me

10 Nov 2005 at 23:41 - 32

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sharpe_116

Errrr. What would be the point against sharing, o yes i see, guild wars wants their money. Well you cant really buy a 5 year old his own copy of guild wars.... And dont go and report all these people cuz thats lame

yes.. my sister plays on my account, and we get along fine. we loan each other money for armor, weapons, and the like. We don't touch each others character

Master Oria

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2005

11 Nov 2005 at 10:59 - 33

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sharpe_116

Errrr. What would be the point against sharing, o yes i see, guild wars wants their money. Well you cant really buy a 5 year old his own copy of guild wars.... And dont go and report all these people cuz thats lame

whatever, Guild wars as no monthly fees and they did not charge for some of those large expention updates. So yeah, thats the point agianst sharing, they created a great product. and well, its only proper to do the little things they asks.

Sofonisba

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2005

Tucson, AZ

The Black Hand Gang [BHG] and The Black Helm Gang [BHeG]

11 Nov 2005 at 16:01 - 34

It really can be a problem with sharing accounts, or allowing someone else to know one's password.

We had a brand-new guildie, she had seemed nice on other quests. Then we decided to go to FoW.

We put it out over guild chat to meet at ToA. This person starts barking orders--still in guild chat--about how they have done this 900 times and the only thing that would work is this certain build they had in mind. "I will not go to FoW with a ranger." Also, mesmers were not welcome either.

This activity had been planned before this person even joined the guild, and now is feeling the authority to exclude anyone who wants to participate. I understand certain builds work better, but our guild is NOT about excluding people.

My first /kick. It didn't feel so hot to do it, but what they did really upset people who were looking forward to their first time in FoW.

Turns out, it was the original player's fiance who got on and was being so belligerent and bossy. I like to give people second chances, but this is too much risk. If that fiance gets on and starts being an ass again, and people don't know the backstory, there could be even more hurt feelings.

It's not my place to tell the person they need to change their password and keep it secret from their future spouse. It IS my place to make sure my guildies feel welcomed and included.

MarineCorpsDude

Academy Page

Join Date: Oct 2005

Beaufort, SC

Mo/

11 Nov 2005 at 19:31 - 35

Intersting. I has been some time since I visited this thread. I'm surprised to see it's still active. Anyway, an update ot my situation with my son...

Well, as I said before, he has kept up his end of the bargain with all his activities and grades. He doesn't know my password and can only sign on when I let him. Being that he is still rather young he is supervised at all times while he plays. He actually prefers that because Old Dad can explain some stuff during missions to help him out... I sometimes have to jump on and type for him when his party is getting hit hard. He's still a little slow at typing. All in all it has worked out ok. I even let him goof around with my smite monk. He really liked that.

Cutest Azn Boi

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2005

W/Mo

22 Nov 2005 at 02:25 - 36

hmmmM i share accounts with my brother but he never plays it haha. he was to make a charater soon. and im like i can share gold with you if u want and ill get u the items. i dun really mind. if i tell him to get out my stuff he better do it lol. or imma take all my stuff back =)

Lord Thud

Academy Page

Join Date: Feb 2005

East Coast, USA

House Thud

R/Mo

22 Nov 2005 at 20:30 - 37

My wife and I have separate accounts and in pre-searing found some account sharing to be a way to gain extra storage. We each had a couple characters on the other person's account that we would dump stuff in. Kind of our own Xunlai agents. The storage in post-searing eliminated the need to continue doing that but some account sharing can be beneficial.

A User Name

Academy Page

Join Date: Jul 2005

None atm

24 Nov 2005 at 01:28 - 38

I let my sister play and i dont really get into any problems lol. Just need to say dont mess with my storage and you can do watever as long as it doesnt involve storage or my chars. So i guess it just depends if the other poeple playing on your account listen to you.

TheOneAndOnlyX

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Oct 2005

The Last Sacrens

N/Me

24 Nov 2005 at 06:18 - 39

Quote:

Originally Posted by MarineCorpsDude

Ok I got this sort of "attack" or comment if you will in game when I was showing my son how to play... so let me explain to you in the forums The same way I did in the game.

My response is this...

1. My son makes straight A's in school
2. Spends no less than 1 hour a day studying (home work or not)
3. Goes to Karate 2 times a week.
4. Spends Saturdays in Young Marines (boot camp at present)
5. PLays baseball when in season and foot ball when it's in season.

So, as long as he maintains those activities.. I can't Justifiably deny him video games if I myself enjoy playing them. In truth it's just one more way for us to connect and spend some time together. But I do realize there are those children that are allowed to veg in front of some sort of screen all day everyday. That's not right. I concede that point. However, that's not the case in my house.

you know whats sad that was me untill I met guild wars

Odinsblade

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Oct 2005

W/R

24 Nov 2005 at 06:39 - 40

Before the patch that let you change skill points my son changed all my skill points one day and totally whacked my warrior out. I was pretty upset, so I sat down with him and told him I'd never let him play again if he touched anything on my characters again. He got the point and now he's more schooled in the game than me on caster abilities, he also seems to be a master trader/seller and seems like he enjoys buying and selling things more than actually playing, except for the PVP. It's just best to set the rules with them ahead of time and if they don't abide by em, take the game away from them. That hits em where it hurts. It's a good life lesson.