now i have seen ninja,shapeshifter,assassin,druid,shamen,and a few others that i would prefer not to list b/c it would take to long now i have heard assassin ninja and thief in almost every post so i wont even touch that shapeshifter even though i agree that it would add a little flavor i have seen it a few times also along with shamen another form of shapeshifter along with druid, but i am going to concentrate on something that i have seen in a few of these threads, the new weapons that they might incorperate like pole-arms and then hand-to-hand. Now i greatly accept these with open arms b/c right now the warrior is the only main melee in the game so i think 2 more based off of pole arms and hand-to-hand would be great...something like the Brawler and Dragoon Lancer for there names or something like that would be awesome...
the Brawler (im just useing the names that i listed as an example they dont have to be this) would have the main attribute of damage reduction which only the Brawler could get then hand-to-hand, then speed increase (both attack and movement will be efected by this) and tatics, the dmg would be for hand-to-hand would be that of a hammer but the attacking speed of an axe(if you dont count the previous attribute of speed) there armor would be that of a warrior so when they hit would cause the dmg of a hammer, when they have the best armor that they can get and they use there armor as a weapon so they can get armor upgrades besides runes (except vampiric upgrades).
The Dragoon Lancer would revolve around pole arms of course like halberds, pole axes, and a few more weapons like a much bigger sword that would need two hands to use so they couldn't use a shield and the dmg would be much greater than the hammer since they are so big, the dg would of cousre be greater than that of a regular warrior since they are used to weilding such large weapons with great potential... the main attribute for this profession would be strength then pole arms mastery, then two handed swordsmanship, then speed same as the last profession that i suggested but the weapon speed of the weapons that they wil be useing will be the same or even slower than a hammer, hence why i have speed as one of its attributes... i would like any feed back that you would like to give and/or any suggestions to any attributes or weapon speeds for the pole arm professions and such...
Certian Professions Ideas that i have heard and agreed with
Seth Deathcaller
mortalis doleo
this post cant be read.
try putting a few commas and a period here and there, thx.
try putting a few commas and a period here and there, thx.
Seth Deathcaller
is this spaceing better?
mortalis doleo
yes 
i still cant understand it, but thx for trying.
i still cant understand it, but thx for trying.
Seth Deathcaller
does anyone sorta agree with what im trying to say should be in the expansion or something close to it and pls dont post anything like rogues and stuff i have seen enough of those to last me a life time of me shooting myself in the foot...thank you...
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Now, I have seen ninja, shapeshifter, assassin, druid, shaman, and a few others that I would prefer not to list because it would take too long. I have heard assassin, ninja, and thief in almost every post, so I wont even touch that. Shapeshifter, even though I agree that it would add a little flavor, I have seen it a few times also along with shamen (another form of shapeshifter). However, I am going to concentrate on something that I have seen in a few of these threads - the new weapons that they might incorporate like pole-arms and then hand-to-hand. Now, I greatly accept these with open arms because right now the warrior is the only main melee in the game. I think two more, based off of pole arms and hand-to-hand, would be great...something like the Brawler and Dragoon Lancer for their names or something like that would be awesome.
The Brawler (im just using the names that I listed as an example, they dont have to be this) would have the main attribute of damage reduction (which only the Brawler could get), then hand-to-hand, then speed increase (both attack and movement will be effected by this) and tactics. The damage for hand-to-hand would be that of a hammer, but the attacking speed would be that of an axe(if you dont count the previous attribute of speed). Their armor would be that of a warrior . So...when they hit, they would cause the damage of a hammer. Also, when they have the best armor that they can get, they use their armor as a weapon so they can get armor upgrades besides runes (except vampiric upgrades). The Dragoon Lancer would revolve around polearms, of course, like halberds, pole axes, and a few more weapons like a much bigger sword that would need two hands to use. They couldn't use a shield, so the damage would be much greater than the hammer since they are so big. The damage would, of course, be greater than that of a regular warrior since they are used to wielding such large weapons with great potential. The main attribute for this profession would be strength, then pole arms mastery, then two handed swordsmanship, then speed - same as the last profession that I suggested. The speed of the weapons that they would be using would be the same or even slower than a hammer, hence why I have speed as one of its attributes. I would like any feedback that you would give and/or any suggestions to any attributes or weapon speeds for the polearm profession and such. |
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Yichi
wow that was much more cohearant than the OP, tyvm 
as for class ideas, seems to me that everyone wants to turn the guildwars character selection in to almsot every other game o nthe market. almost every game has an assassin, a ninja, a druid.... those classes get old. and while yes it is difficult to come up with a different style of class and type of character, those characters have already been done over and over again.
Personally i would like to see some type of another melee char added to the game. that way everyone will stop complaining that warriors are the only melee class.
as for class ideas, seems to me that everyone wants to turn the guildwars character selection in to almsot every other game o nthe market. almost every game has an assassin, a ninja, a druid.... those classes get old. and while yes it is difficult to come up with a different style of class and type of character, those characters have already been done over and over again. Personally i would like to see some type of another melee char added to the game. that way everyone will stop complaining that warriors are the only melee class.
Seth Deathcaller
thank you for the feed back i was only stateing someof the things that i noticed on the forums and decided to try my own version since i was tired of seeing most of the things like ninja and stuf over and over again and decided to actually have something that could help the warrior out instead of trying to make something that would help the other classes since they could easily kill a warrior if they had the right skills and strategy.
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wow that was much more cohearant than the OP, tyvm
as for class ideas, seems to me that everyone wants to turn the guildwars character selection in to almsot every other game o nthe market. almost every game has an assassin, a ninja, a druid.... those classes get old. and while yes it is difficult to come up with a different style of class and type of character, those characters have already been done over and over again. Personally i would like to see some type of another melee char added to the game. that way everyone will stop complaining that warriors are the only melee class. |
Elementalist = Mage done
Monk = Healer/Cleric/Priest types done
Warrior = Warrior done
Necromancer = Necromancer done
Mesmer = Illusionist done
Ranger = Ranger done
Well what you know " as for class ideas, seems to me that everyone wants to turn the guildwars character selection in to almsot every other game o nthe market. almost every game has an assassin, a ninja, a druid" so do they have warrior, healer, necro, mage, illusionist, ranger... so whats with adding more?
Id personally would like Druids with the power to control Nature, Shifting into Animals and some sort of healing perhaps...
Seth Deathcaller
is there anymore feed back that you guys would like to give...
yuna of spira
Yea I saw the thread in sanitarium where i think you saw the bit about the ninjas. Like i said in that forum, too many ppl in suggesting ideas for new professions are adding exact replicas of other mmorpgs or popular games. like shapshifting? gee i never heard of that warcraft one before. It sounds cool, i agree, but I just dont see how it could fit into the guild wars atmosphere.
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Elementalist = Mage done
Monk = Healer/Cleric/Priest types done Warrior = Warrior done Necromancer = Necromancer done Mesmer = Illusionist done Ranger = Ranger done Well what you know " as for class ideas, seems to me that everyone wants to turn the guildwars character selection in to almsot every other game o nthe market. almost every game has an assassin, a ninja, a druid" so do they have warrior, healer, necro, mage, illusionist, ranger... so whats with adding more? |
Or a warrior-mage, with a lot of self-buff spells to cast on his weapons and armor?
And, though it's in many other games as well, a thief class might also be good. Able to detect and disarm traps, increased moving speed and a bonus to damage for attacking from behind.
beginners_luck
The only trouble with coming up with new, original professions, when we lack the insight of the creative/developing team is that with class combinations, we can have pretty much every kind of class in the book. You want a warrior/mage? Go W/E or E/W. Want an alchemist, go defensive E/Mo. Want a druid, go E/R or R/E, and R/W for a sorta shapeshifter, though you're really using a pet.
MSecorsky
Hey, we need, imo, a swordsman. Think along the lines of the three musketeers swashbuckling type, or the sabre fencer. Add a unique line of swords that do not work with the warrior sword skills and add unique attributes for the swordsman and you have another melee character that's unique from the generic tank yet potentially still quite deadly in combat.
Skills would be energy based, not adrenaline based (if you've ever fenced you'll understand why).
Skills would be energy based, not adrenaline based (if you've ever fenced you'll understand why).
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The only trouble with coming up with new, original professions, when we lack the insight of the creative/developing team is that with class combinations, we can have pretty much every kind of class in the book. You want a warrior/mage? Go W/E or E/W. Want an alchemist, go defensive E/Mo. Want a druid, go E/R or R/E, and R/W for a sorta shapeshifter, though you're really using a pet.
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Hey, we need, imo, a swordsman. Think along the lines of the three musketeers swashbuckling type, or the sabre fencer. Add a unique line of swords that do not work with the warrior sword skills and add unique attributes for the swordsman and you have another melee character that's unique from the generic tank yet potentially still quite deadly in combat.
Skills would be energy based, not adrenaline based (if you've ever fenced you'll understand why). |
Venus
I think that Anet should goto Forgoetten Realms and D&D and ask to use all of their classes... or at least a few
I like the idea of a mage with real magic (magic missile) etc. not like, elements....
Dont get me wrong, I love Anet with a passion, and even if they did not do anymore updates I would still think that guildwars was an awsome game
I like the idea of a mage with real magic (magic missile) etc. not like, elements....
Dont get me wrong, I love Anet with a passion, and even if they did not do anymore updates I would still think that guildwars was an awsome game
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But the warrior sword skills are already swashbuckler-like. They just don't have sword models to match.
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Consider fencing styles... you'd have a variety of new sword types (Epee, foil, sabre classes perhaps?) which are single handed, yet because of the style you wouldn't be able to equip a shield. Your defense would be in the sword as well as the offense. However, you could carry an offhand item for other boosts. There would be no two-handed weapons for the class. Skills would emphasize speed, agility and accuracy, as well as defensive parrying, parry-riposte techniques.
It would be artful, if done right.
Rancour
I think the polearm and hand-to-hand ideas are pretty good. I just wouldn't be able to find names for them because they're pretty specific.
My personal idea would be not to add new classes, but to make a specific name and extra skills for the different class combos already in the game.
For example. Say you made a warrior. You then go become a ranger sub. What are you? A Druid! Or Tribal Warrior, Shaman... etc. whatever floats your boat, the name doesn't matter much right now. Then, you are now a Druid. That means you get a new attribute line instead of the rangers Expertise which you lost when you picked warrior as primary. That new attribute would be Shapeshifting. That's my idea, it could be something else.
This would be the same with all the class combos. You pick a primary class and you get his primary attribute; you pick a sub-class and you get the new unique-attribute, which you only get since you picked that exact class combo. It would NOT matter wether you were ranger/warrior or warrior/ranger; you'd still be a druid.
I think that'd be great.
My personal idea would be not to add new classes, but to make a specific name and extra skills for the different class combos already in the game.
For example. Say you made a warrior. You then go become a ranger sub. What are you? A Druid! Or Tribal Warrior, Shaman... etc. whatever floats your boat, the name doesn't matter much right now. Then, you are now a Druid. That means you get a new attribute line instead of the rangers Expertise which you lost when you picked warrior as primary. That new attribute would be Shapeshifting. That's my idea, it could be something else.
This would be the same with all the class combos. You pick a primary class and you get his primary attribute; you pick a sub-class and you get the new unique-attribute, which you only get since you picked that exact class combo. It would NOT matter wether you were ranger/warrior or warrior/ranger; you'd still be a druid.
I think that'd be great.
lyra_song
as ive said before in threads about professions, the professions in Guild Wars are vague. A Fencer class is too specific. Its essentially just 1 build.
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Not really... they're more brutesque than finesse by comparison.
Consider fencing styles... you'd have a variety of new sword types (Epee, foil, sabre classes perhaps?) which are single handed, yet because of the style you wouldn't be able to equip a shield. Your defense would be in the sword as well as the offense. However, you could carry an offhand item for other boosts. There would be no two-handed weapons for the class. Skills would emphasize speed, agility and accuracy, as well as defensive parrying, parry-riposte techniques. It would be artful, if done right. |
Epee and foil are the weapons of modern sport fencing, not real weapons for killing people with. And swashbucklers used shields - where do you think the "buckler" part of the name comes from?
Captain Krompdown
Most people here are probably too young to remember how important it was to have a good BARD in The Bard's Tale trilogy. Guild Wars needs bards.
Any character classes that focus on music or the decoding of symbols would be a great addition. Those would be characters that it would be impossible to farm with, but would be ABSOLUTELY NECESSARY for getting through the actual game and/or into opposing guilds' bases.
Bard and scribe (or whatever you want to call them). Those are my off-the-top-of-my-head suggestions.
And GW still has nothing to compete with The Dreamspell.
Somehow, I'm sure I'm the only one here who knows WTF I'm talking about.
Any character classes that focus on music or the decoding of symbols would be a great addition. Those would be characters that it would be impossible to farm with, but would be ABSOLUTELY NECESSARY for getting through the actual game and/or into opposing guilds' bases.
Bard and scribe (or whatever you want to call them). Those are my off-the-top-of-my-head suggestions.
And GW still has nothing to compete with The Dreamspell.
Somehow, I'm sure I'm the only one here who knows WTF I'm talking about.
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as ive said before in threads about professions, the professions in Guild Wars are vague. A Fencer class is too specific. Its essentially just 1 build.
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There are already riposte skills for sword warriors.
Epee and foil are the weapons of modern sport fencing, not real weapons for killing people with.* And swashbucklers used shields - where do you think the "buckler" part of the name comes from? |
Think outside the box!
As for warrior riposting... I have a hard time seeing a warrior perform a riposte effectively with a big, clunky sword. But here's a skill/concept that could overlap.
Rancour
I don't see why you'd make a profession which was mandatory in order to complete the game. That's just ridiculous.
"You can make any team you like, with anyone you like, the catch is that you have to have a guy on the team who's a Bard."
A good profession, perhaps, but they should never make a profession that was essential to have in the party to complete the game. Imagine the outbreak of "Singing Bards needed for mission!" - spammers.
"You can make any team you like, with anyone you like, the catch is that you have to have a guy on the team who's a Bard."
A good profession, perhaps, but they should never make a profession that was essential to have in the party to complete the game. Imagine the outbreak of "Singing Bards needed for mission!" - spammers.
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Most people here are probably too young to remember how important it was to have a good BARD in The Bard's Tale trilogy. Guild Wars needs bards.
Any character classes that focus on music or the decoding of symbols would be a great addition. Those would be characters that it would be impossible to farm with, but would be ABSOLUTELY NECESSARY for getting through the actual game and/or into opposing guilds' bases. Bard and scribe (or whatever you want to call them). Those are my off-the-top-of-my-head suggestions. |
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As for warrior riposting... I have a hard time seeing a warrior perform a riposte effectively with a big, clunky sword. But here's a skill/concept that could overlap.
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Maybe if you could explain more what differences there would be between the classes, other than appearance. I'm having a hard time seeing what makes one melee character "brutal" while another is about "finesse". I mean, damage is damage.
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Like I said, they don't have the sword models to match their skills. But that's hardly a reason to develop a new class.
Maybe if you could explain more what differences there would be between the classes, other than appearance. I'm having a hard time seeing what makes one melee character "brutal" while another is about "finesse". I mean, damage is damage. |
Hmm...
Well, a primary attribute for the swordsman could be Reflexes. Every point in reflexes adds a base 1% chance to parry an attack and a base 1% increase in damage dealt using their specific sword classes. This would also be a good attribute to tie defensive stances (better use for 'parry', for example, would be as a stance offering X% chance to block physical attacks, with an elite stance Parry-riposte which offers same chance to block and each successful block returns y% of the damage to the attacker using melee weapons)...
Another attribute could be flat out Sabre, with it's cadre of slashing style attacks dealing degenerating wounds and damage (I know, warriors do this as well, but there's only so many styles of damage you can do...), as well as a defensive stance like "Wall of Steel", depicted by a rapid figure eight of the blade which increases the chance to block melee and projectile attacks yet reduces damage given while the stance is maintained...
Perhaps a Precision attribute, designed for the foil/epee style weapons, with skills that increase armor penetration as well as target specific area. Consider "Throat Strike".. if the attack hits, for x to y seconds the target enemy cannot speak. (Thus casters can't cast spells, or shouts cannot be done.) "Lung Stike" can have x% armor penetration and cause bleeding or deep wound for y seconds, or even due to the nature of the damage, result in a negative pip of energy instead. (I like this)
These are initial thoughts... instead of tearing it down, how would you improve on it?
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Are you suggesting a class that's underpowered in combat, but parts of the game just arbitrarily require there to be one in order to open a door or whatever? I can't begin to express how poorly I think of an idea like that.
Could be. Care to explain what this Dreamspell you're talking about is? Google isn't turning up anything that looks relevant. |
I can just imagine you reacting to someone proposing a monk: "Are you proposing a character who is underpowered in combat and whose sole purpose is to tag along other characters and keep them alive?? Who would ever play THAT??!!!"
The question of whether or not they're underpowered in combat would be up to the developers. MONKS AREN'T UNDERPOWERED, and it's perfectly reasonable to imagine a Bard that isn't underpowered, either. I can't imagine a Bard being more underpowered in combat than, say, a mesmer. Since the Bards in The Bards Tale were notoriously drunk, here's the first Bard skill for you:
Imbibe/Boogie-down (adrenaline based...that's right...suck on that)
*Consume a twelver of Dwarven Ale on the spot
*For 25...45 seconds, all ally Bards sing twice as loud, play twice as fast.
*Damage received from incoming attacks is reduced by 1...4
*Gain 50...150 hp
*When spell expires, caster passes out for 5 seconds, during which time Armor - 25
Perhaps I overstated things when I said that they (or any other class) would be required. My bad. But, REALISTICALLY, the situation would be no different than it currently is with monks.
P.S. I think it would be a lot of fun to have skills named after songs everyone knows. Could start off with "Mary had a little lamb" and move up to "Stairway to Heaven," for example. Different kinds of music could be incorporated inthe different skill lines...with alcohol-inspired skills (such as "Imbibe" and "I love you, man!!!" (elite shout, gives instant morale boost...or whatever)).
P.P.S.: Since the different skill trees would be based on different kinds of music, the corresponding Bard outfits would be TOTALLY AWESOME.
NatalieD
Ok, see, that bard thing is not at all what you seemed to be saying before.
(How could monks possibly be considered underpowered in combat? Defense is a part of combat too...)
(How could monks possibly be considered underpowered in combat? Defense is a part of combat too...)
Captain Krompdown
Here's the description of a Bard from one of the Bard's Tales manuals. I think it would be a fantastic addition.
Bard (BA): Bards are colorful characters. Most Bards are warriors who have given up the art of war for the art of magical music. This doesn't mean, however, that they've forgotten how to handle warrior weapons. But because
they're not true warriors, Bards don't the advantage of extra attacks during combat.
Because of their unique form of musical magic, it's nearly impossible to survive in the Realm without a Bard in your party. Most Bards always have a repertoire of seven songs, but must also have an instrument in order to perform. A Bard song played while exploring is long lasting and will resume after combat; even if other tunes were played during the fight. Songs performed during combat are brief -- lasting only one round -- and their effects differ from the noncombat versions.
Only one Bard tune can play at a time, and the tunes vary according to the difficulty of the dungeon. If a second tune is started by the same or a different Bard, the first song will end. A Bard can play as many tunes as he has experience levels before his throat dries; e.g., if your Bard has four experience levels, he'll be able to play four tunes from his repertoire. The only cure for a Bard's dry throat is a large tankard of ale from the nearest tavern. This is the source of one of the Realm's popular sayings, "When the
going gets tough, the Bard goes drinking..."
Would be a nice medieval addition to the game...no need to add "ninjas"...WTF is that?? I know, I know...Stairway to Heaven isn't very medieval. Fine. Throw that out the window if you want. Who really wants to see a fat, drunk Bard in Robert Plant's jeans, anyway?
Bard (BA): Bards are colorful characters. Most Bards are warriors who have given up the art of war for the art of magical music. This doesn't mean, however, that they've forgotten how to handle warrior weapons. But because
they're not true warriors, Bards don't the advantage of extra attacks during combat.
Because of their unique form of musical magic, it's nearly impossible to survive in the Realm without a Bard in your party. Most Bards always have a repertoire of seven songs, but must also have an instrument in order to perform. A Bard song played while exploring is long lasting and will resume after combat; even if other tunes were played during the fight. Songs performed during combat are brief -- lasting only one round -- and their effects differ from the noncombat versions.
Only one Bard tune can play at a time, and the tunes vary according to the difficulty of the dungeon. If a second tune is started by the same or a different Bard, the first song will end. A Bard can play as many tunes as he has experience levels before his throat dries; e.g., if your Bard has four experience levels, he'll be able to play four tunes from his repertoire. The only cure for a Bard's dry throat is a large tankard of ale from the nearest tavern. This is the source of one of the Realm's popular sayings, "When the
going gets tough, the Bard goes drinking..."
Would be a nice medieval addition to the game...no need to add "ninjas"...WTF is that?? I know, I know...Stairway to Heaven isn't very medieval. Fine. Throw that out the window if you want. Who really wants to see a fat, drunk Bard in Robert Plant's jeans, anyway?
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Ok, see, that bard thing is not at all what you seemed to be saying before.
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On the contrary. It's EXACTLY what I was saying before. You were just wanting something to yell about.
I'm not saying that Monks are underpowered. I'm saying that I could imagine you having a knee-jerk reaction and claiming that minks WOULD BE underpowered.
Bard songs could be defensively or offensively oriented, just like Monk prayers. It's a very general idea, but one that I think could be worked into the game in a variety of interesting ways.
Plus, the pattern of having songs that only play while exploring and stop during combat (and leave room for new songs to be played) would introduce a new pattern of "spell casting" -- something like an episodic enchantment. Since a Bard's ability to play songs would be finite, this might encourage people to group their enemies better and/or do more sneaking around potential fights...in order to save their Bard's voice.
Lord Iowerth
I agree with the sentiment that there should be another melee class (as you can pretty much consider all the other classes but ranger to be "casters") ... I think something like a Martial Artist (hand-to-hand) would be ideal ... as you already have the "different types" of weapons on the Warrior class (axe/sword/hammer) and making an entire new class for a new type of weapon like a lance or polearm would be a bit of overkill, when it could just as easily be a new weapon for a warrior...
Although in some other games, the Monk is the martial artist (hah, as evidenced from the monk /dance) but i'd think they'd want to add an 8th type as well just to make it an even number. Then you could really have one of each class in 8 man PvP ^_^
Just my 2 cents worth, and no I don't have change ...
[edit] Oh, and they could also cause blindness by doing the 3 Stooges "two-finger eye poke" thing
Although in some other games, the Monk is the martial artist (hah, as evidenced from the monk /dance) but i'd think they'd want to add an 8th type as well just to make it an even number. Then you could really have one of each class in 8 man PvP ^_^
Just my 2 cents worth, and no I don't have change ...
[edit] Oh, and they could also cause blindness by doing the 3 Stooges "two-finger eye poke" thing
cataphract
imho, it would be much better to add a new playable race. the dwarves. i mean, humans are once again allied with the dwarves and those guys excel at melee. the only problem is making a female counterpart. i mean, who ever heared of a female dwarf?
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i mean, who ever heared of a female dwarf?
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These are initial thoughts... instead of tearing it down, how would you improve on it?
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...Tolkien?
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but i would like to see some trolls and trollops. especially trollpos.
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and what does a female dwarf look like? i mean, even Pratchett can't tell them apart.
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