Level 19 in Pre-Sear?!

all those time wasted on lvling a presearing character, could've spent it farming ectos...and gave them to me

i can think of better ways to waste 1000 hours... lol

Yeah, because spending countless hours farming griffons or UW or Furnace is so much more productive, AND original! geez, what a retarded thing for you to say.

Is it even possible to take a screenshop without them damn spammers being included?!

Wouldn't the char eventually not gain exp from killing you so much? But i can understand why she wants to stay in pre-searing, i like the game world alot better there.

I comfirm it.

btw, what they do is as soon as they're starting to get killed at the shrine they'll go to work/school/bed and they'll be level 20 when they come back. Then they kill the charr for xp

Spending countless hours doing just about anything would be more productive than killing presear Charr endlessly, with the possible exception of tons of dye. How much do Ectos go for? Or Shards? Are you really that ignorant?

Wow, let's completely overlook the fact that (s)he'd be one of the first to level to 20 in Pre-Sear, and just state that they would be much cooler if they farmed like every other player in Guild Wars. Because unique isn't cool. Are you really that much a conformist?

I also believe that theres another male monk thats in full black and in pre-sear too. They've made a guild and often advertise saying "Want to know how we're level 20?" "Join this guild and we'll tell you now! Seperate yourself from the noobs!"

And being first to level 20 in presear gets you what? The respect and admiration of... a couple people? Don't get me wrong, I'm all for doing unique things, but this would not be one of them. Seems to me like she is just doing it to "lord it over" the presear noobs... "Ha, behold, I am 19th in presear, behold my complete lack of a real life! Bow down before one with waaay more time than you!"

Ah, the relativity of what is productive, and what is wasting time.
Some would say playing games and watching television are total wastes of time when you could be learning other languages, advanced mathematics, or a classical instrument such as the violin.

I say as long as you're enjoying yourself and having fun during the time you designate as leisure time, through whatever means, then it's productive leisure. If they want to max out their level in pre-searing for a sense of accomplishment, then more power to them.

Is getting Fissure armor somehow less of a waste of time? The difference is purely an aesthetic one, and it exists for the sole purpose of setting yourself apart from other people, as one of the PvE elite (in terms of cash, at least).
Beyond armor, runes, max damage weapon with desired inherent mods, and salvageable weapon mods, there's no other use for money that actually improves your character. Max armor+max damage weapons with max inherent mods can be gotten from collectors, runes are easily gotten from the trader fairly cheaply, and only weapon mods might give you trouble in buying the max ones. Having large amounts of money is just another bragging rights thing.

So in what way, may I ask, is this a waste of time in such a way that any of the people who say so would not also be guilty through logical deduction? Is it envy that brings a person to say this? Hypocrisy? Not thinking before speaking/writing? Whatever, but until someone comes up with a good reason, I do not think highly of such posts.

wow.... wow.... wow....

omg... omg...x2 omg...x3

"Want to know how we're level 20?" My answer would be simple: NO but do you want to know how to get a life beyond GW?

hrm...is that possible? i mean isnt there a point were to stop getting exp from killing the charrs from the high lvl you already?

If anyone else is think of doing that, my advise would be get a life beyond GW.

Dont get me wrong or anything but there is a life beyond GW you know...? you do know that right? RIGHT?

Yes, because that doesn't apply to people who have Fissure armor at all

You're saying 1 waste of time is bad, and another equal waste of time is worth it. Smart.

You also seem to think that their level 19 Monk is their ONLY character. I think you're an absolute fool to think that character is all they have. They might have 2 other characters all with 15k armor, and might just be doing this for fun. But no, it's not farming and making gold in a computer game so it's not worth doing. Give me a f*cking break and get over yourself.

Must you publicly judge everyone for what they accomplish? You can't just say "congratulations" and move on? Does a glob of ectoplasm magically disappear from your account everytime you congratulate someone or wish someone well? There is something to be said about people that can be gracious even if they disagree. Pointing out that someone is "wasting time" or "having no life" while you yourself play a video game and spend time reading up on it in forums is a bit of the pot calling the kettle black. Or did you not catch that yourself?

Which is where you should be, right? Playing a game at your leisure is one thing, but posting on a forum about the game?!?! What a complete and utter waste of time, and indicator that you, sadly, have no life.
</Sarcasm'd FTW>

Why is it that people draw the line of where things become an 'addiction', 'waste of time', or where people 'have no life', exactly at the spot of where they're at?
It's rude, it's a personal attack, and it honestly has no more place on these boards than topics preaching repentance for eternal salvation (No particular religion mentioned, which is the point, of course. People's religious beliefs are vastly diverse.). Whether you believe what you spout or not, your advice isn't welcome in either case.

The difference here is any damn fool can sacrifice themselves to Charr ad infinitum, not anyone can succesfully say ascend at 1st level ala Lulu. Not just anyone can survive even 5 mins in the FOW or the UW. To be first to level 20 in presear is a unique goal, but one which entails little or no skill, and no reward apart from saying that you have done it. To top it off, the person acts as though they are incredibly superior because of it, and I think that is greatly amusing. See, it's not so much what they are "wasting" their time doing, but their attitude about it.

As I see it, if one wishes to lvl their character to 20 before going into the Academy into the Great Unknown, then so be it. I, personally, go post at lvl 7and do all the missions straight to Ascension. At lvl 20, I go back to Ascalon and do all those quests I missed. As a result, I'm usually lacking in skills but I hate post-searing Ascalon so much, that I just rush right through it at 20. Everyone has their own system.

And for the record: I have found black dye twice in the time I've been playing GW (since it's official release date in late May): both in Pre-Searing Ascalon. I heard from a friend (lvl 14 monk) who has a lvl 20 wolf in Pre-Searing that Charr have decent dye drops...that'd be one reason to stick around.

And some people like to help the newbs...oh, what blasphemy have I uttered?! I admit it, I'm sorry. I like helping newbs! And if you're always running around helping out with quests and hunting with pals in Pre-Searing, you're gonna gain the levels. Getting past 14 seems a little tedious to me, but to each his own. Good luck on that one!

extremely researched answer.. no not unless you turn off everything..

Are you sure you're not that monk..... just kidding!

No matter what, this person is talked about, so has probably met his/her goal.