Yet again another w/mo farming builds (the best)

dont feel no pain

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2005

Uk,Wales

28 Oct 2005 at 12:13 - 1

This build is mainly for the w/mo farmers who have non-effective builds that require to take on 2 or 3 mobs

AND IF U NVR FARMED GRIFONS WITH A W/MO
i suggest u go here and pic up a easy less effective build to get used to it
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...ad.php?t=69827

Ok here is my w/mo farming build i started w/mo farming with standard builds and started to alter them and make them as good as possible and my record so far for clearing all the grifons + minators in the area in 3:23 secs from when u load up outside augury rock.

and u need to be a lvl 20 warrior/monk!!

armor:
ascalon helm, rest gladiator armor

runes suprior tactics ,any absorbtion,any vigor

8 healing
12 smiting
14 tactics

skills,
1.cyclone axe
2.bonneti's
3.watch yourself
4.gladiator defece
5.balthazarss aura
6.vigerous spirit
7.balthazars spirit
8.mending

items:
vampiric axe of shelter (mine) the upgrades should be perfect
any other axe(for running so that u have the extra regen)

the steps:

1.step one check u dont need a ----

2.enter prophets path from augury rock

3.cast ur enchatments and get moving
almost done.JPG

this patten has gained me consant wins over the last 2 weeks

ONCE U HAVE MASTERED THIS BUILD BOO YAA U HAVE THE POWER LIKE ME!!

Power to the psycho!!.JPG

hope u enjoyed (i rushed this thread so tell me if i missed anything important or tell me any problem with it)

Nikki Moonlight

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Oct 2005

Brighton, England

Ice Cold Elements [ICE]

Mo/

28 Oct 2005 at 12:34 - 2

toastgodsupreme

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2005

United States

Me/

28 Oct 2005 at 13:35 - 3

I like your interface. Very nice what you've done there.

Edit: Removed. I shouldn't be posting so early in the morning.

dont feel no pain

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2005

Uk,Wales

28 Oct 2005 at 14:04 - 4

rofl u are blind gladiators defence is there!!!!

toastgodsupreme

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2005

United States

Me/

28 Oct 2005 at 14:39 - 5

Quote:

Originally Posted by dont feel no pain

rofl u are blind gladiators defence is there!!!! Check me out, I'm retarded. This is what I get for playing all night and having to come to work at 8 am. =P

My bad.

axhunter

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2005

W/Mo

28 Oct 2005 at 15:54 - 6

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grim Weeper

that looks pretty effective, i've tried farming there before but i've never been able to kill more then 2 groups at a time, while you seem to be able to kill all of em quite easy....now i gotta try and get money for that armour..made the mistake of full knights armour... this build is effective but not the best... but with this build you can take on all the griffons at once no prob... i say this build takes about 3:30 - 4mins(including picking up loot) per run, best build i've tried is 2:50 seconds(including picking up loot)

carnivore

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

28 Oct 2005 at 19:03 - 7

hm glads defense is getting popular in those runs lately. i knew i shoulda picked it up when i was in dragons lair =P

anyway i usually use healing hands, symbol of wrath, and live vicariously(sp) instead of watch yourself, balths spirit, and glads defense

not sure if your way is faster, do you kill all of them before you have to cast another balths aura? cuz i usually cast balths>symbol>another balths to finish them. then i take on the second wave

Manfred

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Oct 2005

29 Oct 2005 at 01:30 - 8

Glads defence rocks my socks because of its fast recharge and the fact that you can cast through it.

kvndoom

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2005

Communistwealth of Virginia

Uninstalled

W/Mo

29 Oct 2005 at 02:18 - 9

, or 8 Sand Drakes in Diviner's Ascent

(yeah that's 6 but I've done more), or 10 devourers in Thirsty River (I'll have to get some screenies of that I suppose), then I'll be impressed with it. Every W/Mo build I've seen so far has the same fundamental flaw. Guys are missing the forest for the trees.

lyra_song

Hell's Protector

Join Date: Oct 2005

R/Mo

29 Oct 2005 at 02:45 - 10

i dont know, im guess stacking a stance with aegis...*shrug*

ive been experimenting with different builds and i had a really STUPID build made specifically for fighting the forgotten enchanted. Its lots of fun, but really dumb. post it up tommorow...too sleepy to remember it now ._.

Entropius

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2005

29 Oct 2005 at 02:55 - 11

dont feel no pain,

Please take the minimal time to spell- and grammar-check your posts before submitting them, to allow others to read them without hemorrhaging profusely from their eyeballs.

I mean, typos happen, and this is gwg rather than English class. But, OW.

Thanks,
Galen

twicky_kid

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2005

Quite Vulgar [FUN]

29 Oct 2005 at 03:41 - 12

replace mending with live vicarously and replace watch yourself with symbol of wrath

derrtyboy69

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Jun 2005

The Clouds

Scars Meadows [SMS]

Mo/Me

29 Oct 2005 at 05:47 - 13

Quote:

Originally Posted by twicky_kid

replace mending with live vicarously and replace watch yourself with symbol of wrath mending is a must for running, although symbol or wrath is good instead of watch yourself (although im not sure he can stay alive without it)

kvndoom

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2005

Communistwealth of Virginia

Uninstalled

W/Mo

29 Oct 2005 at 08:45 - 14

After counting, I realized this was only 9:

So I went to round up 10:

Same results:

Griffons? Meh.

Maybe "the best" is a subjective term. Hmmm...

dont feel no pain

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2005

Uk,Wales

29 Oct 2005 at 09:14 - 15

Quote:

Originally Posted by twicky_kid

replace mending with live vicarously and replace watch yourself with symbol of wrath i have been thinking of replaing watch yourself with symbol of wrath but i use mending for extra defence while gathering all of them and i dont need a extra 10 health on hits all is great now

lyra_song

Hell's Protector

Join Date: Oct 2005

R/Mo

29 Oct 2005 at 12:34 - 16

Quote:

Originally Posted by kvndoom

After counting, I realized this was only 9:
<--snip-->
Maybe "the best" is a subjective term. Hmmm... well best for him.

Interesting build you have there. looks like a retribution build if you are a w/mo.

jonnybegood

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

huh?

The Final Exodus[FX]

29 Oct 2005 at 13:15 - 17

not to be nit-picking but what would be the difference between balthzars aura and symbol of wrath, besides the 20 less energy needed to cast symbol?

kvndoom

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2005

Communistwealth of Virginia

Uninstalled

W/Mo

29 Oct 2005 at 13:33 - 18

Aura is an enchantment, can be stripped, but lasts 10 seconds. Can also be extended with % mods, so a +15% or better enchantment mod will make it last 12 seconds instead of 10. It also can be cast on another person, preferably someone who is getting mobbed.

SoWrath is a static-area spell. It does damage to enemies in the area where you cast it. It lasts 5 seconds and cannot be extended. It can't be stripped either. Since it isn't cast on another person, hexes like Mark of Subversion don't affect it.

There are pluses and minuses to both. Back when BZ's Aura had a 15-second recharge and 1-second cast time, it was like being a walking, talking nukular bomb.

Quote:

Originally Posted by lyra_song

well best for him.

Interesting build you have there. looks like a retribution build if you are a w/mo. Naw, Retribution wouldn't do much good with the small amount of damage the devourers are doing. It would take next to forever for them to finally die. But you're on the right track. I can take any size group of devourers in Thirsty and once I have them in position, it takes exactly 82 seconds for them to drop dead.

lyra_song

Hell's Protector

Join Date: Oct 2005

R/Mo

29 Oct 2005 at 18:41 - 19

82 seconds? wow nice...hmn...its obviously not a AoE, because the bad guys are way too far int he devourer's pic. SoJ + riposte perhaps? although i dunno if riposte works against arrows...

Renegade_Zero

Academy Page

Join Date: Jun 2005

King's Overlord

W/Mo

29 Oct 2005 at 23:12 - 20

chrislee149

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2005

Kansas City Hotsteppers [KCHS]

W/Mo

29 Oct 2005 at 23:18 - 21

I tested out this build (traded Watch Yourself for Symbol of Wrath as tricky_kid sugested), and found that Cyclone Axe + Vigorous Spirit was a bit annoying to pull off. It didn't really give much health, and didn't do much damage (due to no Axe Mastery). So, instead, I'm now using my Ivor's Smiting Staff that I happened to find in SF. It does about 17 damage, compared to the 2 done by an axe. I traded Vigorous Spirit for Healing Breeze. Now, I'm able to live pretty well, and I still have a free skill spot (from Cyclone Axe) to use. I'm thinking I may put Sprint in it, or maybe Zealot's Fire?

lyra_song

Hell's Protector

Join Date: Oct 2005

R/Mo

29 Oct 2005 at 23:39 - 22

really the point of cyclone axe is to refill your adrenaline for bonetti's defense which in turn refills your magic fast.

legandry

Academy Page

Join Date: Aug 2005

Houston, Tejas

Morbidly Obese Terror Squad

E/Mo

30 Oct 2005 at 00:12 - 23

Quote:

Originally Posted by axhunter

this build is effective but not the best... but with this build you can take on all the griffons at once no prob... i say this build takes about 3:30 - 4mins(including picking up loot) per run, best build i've tried is 2:50 seconds(including picking up loot) It's pretty clear that you do not have times down quite right... its take about 3 mins to enchant and round up all griffs plus about 30secs to get loot, so that is 3:30 plus right there (no kill time). My avg. runs are 4:30 to 5:30, and I use a similar build to this. To be honest, you will be best off without balth's spirit... you get en from bonetti's (which you will be under all the time except for glads), so you can use that skill slot for a second smite skill (SoW). Also, you might want to trade off vig. spirit for live vicariously. The only downside is the live vicariously does not give you hp when you miss, so minotaurs with wary stance on will not give u hp. You should not have any problem with this though if your equipment is good. Also, take an elemental dmg mod instead of vampiric if you plan on having your axe do dmg.

My collection:

SPARTACVS

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2005

30 Oct 2005 at 00:56 - 24

Quote:

Originally Posted by kvndoom

Bleh, yet another "run from devourers" W/Mo build. I'm still waiting for somebody (else) to see that thinking outside the box will enable you to kill them with considerable ease, right along with almost anything in the desert except Jade Scarabs. Let me see your build solo 8 Hydras at once in Skyward Reach
(yeah that's 6 but I've done more), or 10 devourers in Thirsty River (I'll have to get some screenies of that I suppose), then I'll be impressed with it. Every W/Mo build I've seen so far has the same fundamental flaw. Guys are missing the forest for the trees. Sounds interesting. I like to try it. Mind posting a built please?

chrislee149

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2005

Kansas City Hotsteppers [KCHS]

W/Mo

30 Oct 2005 at 02:05 - 25

Quote:

Originally Posted by lyra_song

really the point of cyclone axe is to refill your adrenaline for bonetti's defense which in turn refills your magic fast. Oh, forgot about that (was using Hundred Blades a while ago, similar use). I guess it was just bad timing on my part - I wasn't using Bonetti's right after Cyclone, since I didn't have adrenaline most of the time. I think using the staff makes it easier, though, without having to time it. It almost makes it easier to just kill those pesky Devourers. It just seems hard to heal myself solely off of Vigorous Spirit (no Vampiric weapon), when you said that it's not even used for healing.

Reve2uk

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Aug 2005

W/N

30 Oct 2005 at 02:27 - 26

i don't use gladitors armour, i use 15k plate with knights hands/feet, then equip the healing item u can get from dronknar instead of a shield, that way i get 6 armour, 12nrg and 45hp on the item and also have the other bouns from my armour

kvndoom

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2005

Communistwealth of Virginia

Uninstalled

W/Mo

30 Oct 2005 at 07:03 - 27

Quote:

Originally Posted by SPARTACVS

Sounds interesting. I like to try it. Mind posting a built please? Been getting this a lot lately, so I'll give up a little bit of this info. I just want you guys to that the skills are there, you just have to put 'em together.

I'm not going to give all the details out because I promised my guild it would be exclusive to them. But I'll give you the trick to devourers, since they needlessly frustrate so many people. Any type of defensive buff + wary stance + shield of judgement. Wary stance guarantees that they can't hit you with distracting shot while you cast SoJ, and judgement takes care of the rest. When I took those screens, I didn't even attack. I just stood there and let them kill themselves.

Wary Stance, cast SoJ (lasts 22 seconds at smiting 12 and with Ivor's Staff or Yakslapper), wait 60 seconds for Wary Stance to recharge, cast WS + Judgement again, all devourers are dead after the second 22 seconds. 82 seconds and they're toast. Mind you this strategy only applies to Thirsty River. I change a couple skills here and there for other places.

I really can't share all my build specifics outside of my guild. My guys have been making good money and I know if I make it all public it may get abused and nerfed. If you figure out the rest of it, I'm very proud of you. Just remember that the best offense is a good defense, and I do NOT farm with a melee weapon.

dont feel no pain

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2005

Uk,Wales

30 Oct 2005 at 09:23 - 28

Quote:

Originally Posted by legandry

It's pretty clear that you do not have times down quite right... its take about 3 mins to enchant and round up all griffs plus about 30secs to get loot, so that is 3:30 plus right there (no kill time). My avg. runs are 4:30 to 5:30, and I use a similar build to this. To be honest, you will be best off without balth's spirit... you get en from bonetti's (which you will be under all the time except for glads), so you can use that skill slot for a second smite skill (SoW). Also, you might want to trade off vig. spirit for live vicariously. The only downside is the live vicariously does not give you hp when you miss, so minotaurs with wary stance on will not give u hp. You should not have any problem with this though if your equipment is good. Also, take an elemental dmg mod instead of vampiric if you plan on having your axe do being honest i can do it inwell under 4 mins my best time is 3:24 that i did yesterday ( lol i know it's weird but i like to time it and beat records) and thats from load scren to after i picked the loot.

Josh

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Oct 2005

England, UK

D/Mo

30 Oct 2005 at 10:14 - 29

Quote:

Originally Posted by kvndoom

After counting, I realized this was only 9:
<Pictures>
Maybe "the best" is a subjective term. Hmmm... Honestly - what is the point in posting them if your not even going to post the build? Do you think your so great and get a big ego boost by posting something better?

Bragging -

Racthoh

Did I hear 7 heroes?

Join Date: May 2005

Scars Meadows [SMS], Guild Leader (Not Recruiting)

30 Oct 2005 at 10:40 - 30

Quote:

Originally Posted by Josh

Honestly - what is the point in posting them if your not even going to post the build? Do you think your so great and get a big ego boost by posting something better?

Bragging -

Well, considering that in this game we have armours that make us look different with no real benefit I would think that bragging about achievements is highly acceptable. What else are PvEers supposed to do?

kvndoom

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2005

Communistwealth of Virginia

Uninstalled

W/Mo

30 Oct 2005 at 14:10 - 31

Quote:

Originally Posted by Josh

Honestly - what is the point in posting them if your not even going to post the build? Do you think your so great and get a big ego boost by posting something better?

Bragging -

Yup I'm bragging because I used what's on this page:
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/skill/class/6-warrior

and combined it with what's on this page:
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/skill/class/3-monk

(though some of the descriptions are out of date) and came up with 8 skills that helped me make a lot of money. It would be something different if every single person who played the game wasn't privvy to the exact same information. You can insult me, or you can try to figure it out, whichever you feel is better use of your time. I didn't copy my strategies from anybody, which goes on a lot in this game (IWAY, 105/85/55 Monk), so yeah, if I want to brag a teensy bit, I think I'm entitled to. When someone else puts it all together and posts it on here, hey, I'll be happy that they figured it out.

Heck I've given half of it away already: I've told which Elite I use, I've given mention that I don't use a melee weapon, so you can eliminate everything from the "Axe Mastery," "Hammer Mastery," and "Swordsmanship" categories. A Warrior primary has no Divine Favor, so you can eliminate that category as well. I've told what my Smiting Prayers attribute level is. I've told that if you're Rockshot hunting, bring Wary Stance so that you can be 100% sure to get off the one skill that works best against them. Even told how to do it, thank you quite much. I've told which weapon I have, though you don't have to go and buy a 70k staff. A Yakslapper still has 20% enchantment length, it's just that a Warrior has no Divine Favor so you can't do any damage with it. Nothing else I use costs a lot of money. You can look at my pics and see that I'm wearing standard issue Droknar's Knight's Helm / Boots, Gladiator's everything else. That's Thorgall's Shield, if you must know, the cheapest of all the greens to buy, and STRENGTH-based, which should tell you something else. I have major Vigor and Absorption runes, minor Strength, Tactics, and weapon runes. Nothing extravagant, exotic, or expensive.

I've told plenty, left only a little to anyone's imagination to string it all together. Imagination being the key phrase. I know it takes less effort to flame than to pick out 5 or 6 skills to use for making money, but I assure you, it's pretty easy to figure out.

Sol Faithman

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2005

WOLF

W/Mo

30 Oct 2005 at 15:52 - 32

Quote:

Originally Posted by kvndoom

Dahnel

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2005

Rt/Me

30 Oct 2005 at 18:30 - 33

Ok i think i got the build now... since i can solo the hydras outside augury rock.. and the rockshots at thirsty river

i wont let the cat out of the bag yet though ...

Nikki Moonlight

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Oct 2005

Brighton, England

Ice Cold Elements [ICE]

Mo/

30 Oct 2005 at 18:36 - 34

let it out now?

Fitz Rinley

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2005

The Rusty Rose

W/Mo

30 Oct 2005 at 19:04 - 35

I don't get the making money thing. It is something I truly detest in the game. I understand including it to be realistic about getting some equipment and so forth. I find the process to be a hinderence to the story line and progression of the characters, and a waste of real time that could be spent playing the game. Instead, selling things amounts to standing around with max damage or max effective items (because anything else is SS) advertising while I multi-task in making meals, paying bills, petting the cat, or reconstructing an ethical theory using Kant, Taoism, and Bruner. It's faster to kill, SS, and kill for more than go thru that.

Fitz Rinley

xb0vv

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2005

30 Oct 2005 at 19:37 - 36

healing breeze > watch yourself

dont feel no pain

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2005

Uk,Wales

30 Oct 2005 at 23:09 - 37

emmm kvndoom not to be cheeky but i think i could think up ur build ur a simluar build anyways

here i go: (if i am wrong my bad)

doylak sigit
healing sigit
sheilds up
Sheild of judge
wary stance
Deflect Arrows
balthzars spirit
watchful spirit

i think that would do nicly

with stats like this

12 smite
12 strength
10-12 tactics

not sure of runes

but i think that would do the trick (probably wrong)

but if i'm right dont be angry i thought it up

12 smite

Master Oria

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2005

31 Oct 2005 at 00:00 - 38

Thats all great but i preffer farming lvl 24 mobs over desert stuff.
Mind you my build cant use a shield, you're better off with an healing anhk
and go in with 40 energy

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a375/Shrain/gw148.jpg

fgarvin

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Sep 2005

31 Oct 2005 at 00:34 - 39

This is what I use...

The image describes everything.

dont feel no pain

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2005

Uk,Wales

31 Oct 2005 at 14:09 - 40

Quote:

Originally Posted by Master Oria