Excuse the strange title, but I was wondering if people here think that it's wrong to go AFK in a mission outpost? Sometimes I like to sit and watch the conversations people have or whatever, or sometimes I'm just not at the computer, so I set my character to /dance. I guess it doesn't help that I'm a Monk, but I was just in Thunderhead dancing and chatting with guildies (in the guild channel) and I started to get a lot of abuse from people about the fact that I was a Monk and not accepting invites.
If a Warrior went AFK, would people have a go at him/her?
I can understand the idea that people want Monks for their groups, but surely if I turn down an invite once or twice they'd get the message? I was questioned in general chat, and I explained that it was my right to be there, and that I could simply be waiting for my guildies to arrive. No one believed me, but whatever.
Anyway, I know this has been discussed before but I want a fresh view on it, because I feel slightly guilty for what I did (even though I know I shouldn't, since I wasn't doing it to be mean).
Thanks.
Is it RIGHT to dance?
Vhayr
DevilStick
It's your right to be there, but being a monk in the later missions is a double edged sword. Easy to get a group, hard to simply hang out and/or get time to manage inventory.
If you want to be left alone - play a ranger.
If you want to be left alone - play a ranger.
Yichi
or a mesmer. i had to delete mine because i was tired of always playing with the hench
Raiin Maker
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Originally Posted by DevilStick
It's your right to be there, but being a monk in the later missions is a double edged sword. Easy to get a group, hard to simply hang out and/or get time to manage inventory.
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lmao try necro.
Sax Dakota
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Originally Posted by MistressYichi
or a mesmer. i had to delete mine because i was tired of always playing with the hench
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Just don't accept or reject. People will eventually get the idea that you are afk. Or if the start messaging you, appear offline in the friends list
Igedit
Just tell them Mhenlo and Lina are available. 
Vhayr
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Originally Posted by Igedit
Just tell them Mhenlo and Lina are available.
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Lasareth
Mhenlo tends to do stupid things from time to time :S and Lina has no condition removal at all. 
Mavrik
yeah, pay them no mind at all. Your playing the game for your enjoyment and doing what you feel like doing. Next time someone gives you a hard time for standing around, go with them and let them all die and say "sorry, I was afk like before... and forgot my res"
Unik
Rofl
Yep seen that before, it's like if you are in a district you NEED to join a group, just because you're a monk.
I've had a few insults by pm or in all chat, just because I didn't accept an invite. I find this really amusing and when it happens, I usually first tell them I do not accept blind invites (note most of the insults come from the people who do the blind invite thing).
When the insulting continues, I usually ask in all chat the reasons I should join a group of morons who are insulting me because I’m not solely at their service. I also like a previous post refer them to Alesia and Mhenlo actually enjoy blind invites and are pretty submissive, so they should fit their needs nicely.
And yea if you want peace, just run a NE/Me or vice versa, you’ll get to know those henches pretty well…
Unik
Yep seen that before, it's like if you are in a district you NEED to join a group, just because you're a monk.
I've had a few insults by pm or in all chat, just because I didn't accept an invite. I find this really amusing and when it happens, I usually first tell them I do not accept blind invites (note most of the insults come from the people who do the blind invite thing).
When the insulting continues, I usually ask in all chat the reasons I should join a group of morons who are insulting me because I’m not solely at their service. I also like a previous post refer them to Alesia and Mhenlo actually enjoy blind invites and are pretty submissive, so they should fit their needs nicely.
And yea if you want peace, just run a NE/Me or vice versa, you’ll get to know those henches pretty well…
Unik
Draygo Korvan
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Originally Posted by Vhayr
I don't see why people don't use them, I mean, they're never AFK
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My mission team composition contains 4 more damage dealers, the hench healers and one real monk. This way our team doesnt get screwed to the point of having to restart if the monk err 7 or ragequits.
quickmonty
I have actually seen "WTF monk join our team" like I'm really going to join a team where I'm getting abuse before I join.
Have had blind invites before I'm done loading into a town.
Have accepted and said in team chat "I don't heal, I'm a smiting monk" Got the boot real quick LOL
Have had blind invites before I'm done loading into a town.
Have accepted and said in team chat "I don't heal, I'm a smiting monk" Got the boot real quick LOL
Sagius Truthbarron
I remember the Hell's Precipice mission with pugs.. Monks! Monks everywhere and not a drop to drink!! They were everywhere, dancing! Not one of them wanted to come!
People still pug in PvE? Unless you want some company, why not just bring henchies?
People still pug in PvE? Unless you want some company, why not just bring henchies?
cangeman
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Originally Posted by quickmonty
Have accepted and said in team chat "I don't heal, I'm a smiting monk" Got the boot real quick LOL
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All joking aside, you paid for the game so play it how you want to. If they're being rude then pay them no mind.
Snowman
Un-beleivable!!! LOL... people actually stoop so low to try get a monk on their team, that is pathetic.. in fact its hilarious!
I wouldnt feel guilty about that at all.... lol, in fact I would probably go up to them, /point /laugh
as for the dancing... well, I would MUCH rather sit and watch a monk dance being AFK than standing still being AFK.
I wouldnt feel guilty about that at all.... lol, in fact I would probably go up to them, /point /laugh
as for the dancing... well, I would MUCH rather sit and watch a monk dance being AFK than standing still being AFK.
Vhayr
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Originally Posted by Snowman
Un-beleivable!!! LOL... people actually stoop so low to try get a monk on their team, that is pathetic.. in fact its hilarious!
I wouldnt feel guilty about that at all.... lol, in fact I would probably go up to them, /point /laugh as for the dancing... well, I would MUCH rather sit and watch a monk dance being AFK than standing still being AFK. |
And this guy who I PMed (told him to stop sending me blind invites) ended up saying that I was obviously there to annoy people, and that he didn't want a Monk like me on his team. What? The guy who's just insulted me doesn't want me on his team?
Right.
Loch
Two things:
1) Yes, I completely agree that monks have a right to stand around and do nothing in an outpost. If the monk doesn't say "LFG," frankly, you can deduce pretty darn well that that person isn't looking for a group at all. The later missions are very monk-scarce. In that case, I just take monk henches and announce that for my "LF more" messages (eg. Group with Monk henchies LF Necro and Warrior.). I'll weed out every idiot who'd rather wait an eternity for a monk to join than try the mission now and come back later. People who are decent at the game know that monk henchies only work as well as the group does.
2) I've played a ranger and mesmer before, I NEVER had trouble finding a group. When you see more than one "LFG" onscreen, you can usually invite those people instead of waiting for some random group to invite you; those people usually don't leave. Don't be lazy; take a little initiative, and you'll find that making a group only takes one or two minutes and not a lifetime.
So yes, dance away. Blind invites never work, and only desperate idiots invite blindly. I'd say those group deserve what's coming to them if you're considering joining then afk'ing.
Sometimes I just stand around Thunderhead Keep and Ring of Fire outposts watching the "GLF MONKS!!!!" messages over and over.
1) Yes, I completely agree that monks have a right to stand around and do nothing in an outpost. If the monk doesn't say "LFG," frankly, you can deduce pretty darn well that that person isn't looking for a group at all. The later missions are very monk-scarce. In that case, I just take monk henches and announce that for my "LF more" messages (eg. Group with Monk henchies LF Necro and Warrior.). I'll weed out every idiot who'd rather wait an eternity for a monk to join than try the mission now and come back later. People who are decent at the game know that monk henchies only work as well as the group does.
2) I've played a ranger and mesmer before, I NEVER had trouble finding a group. When you see more than one "LFG" onscreen, you can usually invite those people instead of waiting for some random group to invite you; those people usually don't leave. Don't be lazy; take a little initiative, and you'll find that making a group only takes one or two minutes and not a lifetime.
So yes, dance away. Blind invites never work, and only desperate idiots invite blindly. I'd say those group deserve what's coming to them if you're considering joining then afk'ing.
Sometimes I just stand around Thunderhead Keep and Ring of Fire outposts watching the "GLF MONKS!!!!" messages over and over.
Snowman
oh I dont know about blind invite being so dumb... I do like to help out n00bs where i can if the guild is quiet, its quite fun sometimes... (especially when they try activating a desert-porter for the first time rofl)
for the most part n00b teams are just frustrated, they are really glad of the help more often than not.
i was teh huge n00b once, now I guild leader, so I see n00bs teams as good member farming grounds
but when the n00bs insult you.. thats when it becomes dumb.
for the most part n00b teams are just frustrated, they are really glad of the help more often than not.
i was teh huge n00b once, now I guild leader, so I see n00bs teams as good member farming grounds
but when the n00bs insult you.. thats when it becomes dumb.
The_Janitor
Logout if you're AFK. Sheesh.
Lord Zado
It's ok for people to stand around in outposts/towns and do nothing. I can understand if you have to AFK for a few minutes or something. Some people go to a town, then leave their computer for a long time. I don't understand why people do that...why not log off if you have to go away for a while, or at least wait in LA or Draknor's so you don't have to worry about people inviting you or not.
All the more reason to institute a LFG interface, so people forming parties can see at a glance, who in the area is looking for what mission/quest or just standing around.
All the more reason to institute a LFG interface, so people forming parties can see at a glance, who in the area is looking for what mission/quest or just standing around.
DevilStick
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Originally Posted by Loch
Two things:
2) I've played a ranger and mesmer before, I NEVER had trouble finding a group. When you see more than one "LFG" onscreen, you can usually invite those people instead of waiting for some random group to invite you; those people usually don't leave. Don't be lazy; take a little initiative, and you'll find that making a group only takes one or two minutes and not a lifetime. |
Sometimes I just feel lazy and didn't feel like hussling a group together tho.
Vhayr
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Originally Posted by Lord Zado
It's ok for people to stand around in outposts/towns and do nothing. I can understand if you have to AFK for a few minutes or something. Some people go to a town, then leave their computer for a long time. I don't understand why people do that...why not log off if you have to go away for a while, or at least wait in LA or Draknor's so you don't have to worry about people inviting you or not.
All the more reason to institute a LFG interface, so people forming parties can see at a glance, who in the area is looking for what mission/quest or just standing around. |
Sanji
Monks can dance if we want to
We can leave your group behind
'Cause your group don't dance and if they don't dance
Well they're no group of mine
We can leave your group behind
'Cause your group don't dance and if they don't dance
Well they're no group of mine
Aniewiel
I vote for the "log out" when you need to be AFK for more than a few minutes. Sheesh....why would you want to leave a char IG? 
qwe4rty
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Originally Posted by The_Janitor
Logout if you're AFK. Sheesh.
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I think he said he was chatting?
Aniewiel
A) He also said
which is why the Janitor and I made our comments. So 10/10 Reading Comprehension to YOU as well.
B) I'm not a guy.
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B) I'm not a guy.
Lasareth
Sometimes people go afk for very short periods of time, like for a shower, or to grab something to eat. I like to keep guild chat on to see what I missed while I was gone when I afk, so I leave GW open.
Most of the time, I hang out in the Wizard's Hall, though. I just love how peaceful it is
Most of the time, I hang out in the Wizard's Hall, though. I just love how peaceful it is
Aracos79
How dare you mistake the Smite Mistress. Now you will fear the wrath of the SMITE KEY! 
On-topic: While I personally don't see the point of staying logged in if you aren't doing anything, I don't see why they should be forced to log out. Although I would support some kind of auto logging function. For example, if you are inactive for say... 30 minutes, the program automatically logs you out.
On-topic: While I personally don't see the point of staying logged in if you aren't doing anything, I don't see why they should be forced to log out. Although I would support some kind of auto logging function. For example, if you are inactive for say... 30 minutes, the program automatically logs you out.
Lord Zado
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10/10 Reading Comprehension. Same to the guy above me.
I think he said he was chatting? |
Everyone has to go AFK now and then and sometimes you can be away longer than expected. But you can go to any mission in the game and find at least a dozen people just standing around doing nothing. Surely not all of them are just AFK for a second, but rather, just leaving their character in game for no reason.
Lasareth
Coming from a game where blind invites are taboo, I would suggest that people try whispering the person first, before inviting. That way, you get the "Away" notification or even an offline notification as a clear indicator that they're afk.
Weazzol
Is it right to dance? Not if your character is a male mesmer, that's just not right at all...
/shudder
/shudder
Tzhebee
Here's a solution for you. Standing around (dancing around...whatever) load your party up with henchies, that way if someone tries to invite you they get the message that your party is full. Ta-da. Now you can dance, chat, leave, whatever with less people bugging you. (because some idiot is still going to whisper you telling you to leave your group and join theirs). 
Teufel Eldritch
Now I have a very strong urge to log on my Monk, goto a end game area & go afk for a LOOOOOOONNNNNGGGGG period of time.
Vhayr
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Originally Posted by Lasareth
Sometimes people go afk for very short periods of time, like for a shower, or to grab something to eat. I like to keep guild chat on to see what I missed while I was gone when I afk, so I leave GW open.
Most of the time, I hang out in the Wizard's Hall, though. I just love how peaceful it is |
Anyhow, thanks for all your opinions. I understand that it could be annoying for people trying to form a group, but if people didn't blind invite all the time then we wouln't have this problem because they'd see that I was away when they whispered me.
Vilaptca
I like that in WoW when you go AFK a <AFK> appears above your head. GW really needs this. As the only way to tell if a person is away is if you whisper them, and often most people dont' set their status to away when they go AFK.
I frequently get up and leave my character at /dance when I'm in a town, just so I can move around, get stuff to drink, to eat. But never more than 10 minutes.
I frequently get up and leave my character at /dance when I'm in a town, just so I can move around, get stuff to drink, to eat. But never more than 10 minutes.
mamluk
Personally, after all the difficulties I have had with my ranger getting groups, I enjoy getting desperate invites from groups looking for monks when I am logged in with my monk. I think I might just leave my monk in Thunderhead dancing now when I know I will be afk. Hmmm, maybe I will whip up a macro to say "Monk looking for group" every minute or so.
Seriously, if someone doesnt accept your invite, move on, why waste your time? People get too pissy about these sorts of things. Its rather silly to assume that someone should respond to blind invites.
Seriously, if someone doesnt accept your invite, move on, why waste your time? People get too pissy about these sorts of things. Its rather silly to assume that someone should respond to blind invites.
Thock
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Originally Posted by Sanji
Monks can dance if we want to
We can leave your group behind 'Cause your group don't dance and if they don't dance Well they're no group of mine |
On subject: Nothing wrong with that. I generally log off if im going to be gone more than half an hour though.
fergburger
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Originally Posted by Sanji
Monks can dance if we want to
We can leave your group behind 'Cause your group don't dance and if they don't dance Well they're no group of mine |
Snowman
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Originally Posted by Aniewiel
I vote for the "log out" when you need to be AFK for more than a few minutes. Sheesh....why would you want to leave a char IG?
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what a load of chips and beans!!!! STAY LOGGED ON!!!!
your character age goes up for one thing, AND if A-NET thought it was a bad idea to go afk forever and they would have done auto-log off.
Im logged on now, I've alt-tabbed to come onto the forums.. I guess I might be away on this site for ooo... 2/3 hours!... when I want to play again I simply re-open and instantly I can play, without having to type in my password again.
Im pretty damn sure guildwars guru would be quite please to know that people alt-tab, check out their site, then jump straight back into guildwars.
oh and by the way... the more times you type your password on your keyboard the more chance of it being keylogged...
staying logged on is clearly for the more enlightened.
AeroLion
There are a lot of people trying to make excuses in this thread. But what it comes down to is that a monk has just as much right to dance and go AFK anywhere as a warrior does. You didn't advertise yourself as LFG so you owe exactly nothing to anyone around you.