Is there a GW miss manners?

I have a question of manners.

I was to be in the game for a limited time (about an hour) as I have to wake early tomarrow and drive about 3 hours to some training for my job. One of my guildies requested that I help him with the wilds mission. Of course I met him and we joined a group. About 5 min into mission my guildie mysteriously vanishes offline, i'm assuming something came up or his connection came down.

The group leader is like "its ok we don't need him". Which is fine because I'd say the same thing to keep others from bailing and we honestly didn't need a 6 man party for this.

Watching the guild tab tells me he's not returning, and I'm thinking, wow this kinda sucks, I have zero need to do this mission/bonus again, but then again, it would be kind of a jerk move to just bail on them as they've got no other healer type. They don't ask me to stay, and I don't mention leaving. Although I did reply to the don't need comment by stating he's my guildie and I was there to help him out.

Cut to end of mission, we complete the bonus/misson no prob and now we're in bloodstone fen, not one word of thanks for not leaving when my reason to do the mission was removed. I didnt fuss over it at all, just told them "nicely done" and excused myself. But I do wonder if it was reasonable of me to expect a simple thank you for completing the mission with them. It was clear that I didnt need it at all and had no reason to be there other than the fact that I signed on to do the mission in the first place, which doesn't often stop others from doing whatever. I'm not the type to ever demand free rides as a monk, or worse payment for "services" or anything like that. But I think that a thank you would not have been out of place in return for not bailing on that party.

Any thoughts?

A general rule of doing favors is to do favors not expecting rewards, or even thanks. The reward is often the helping itself

Don't seek validation by others--if you know what you do is kind or generous, let that knowledge be your reason for feeling good about it.

The other day, I ran my hubby's new character to Grendich Courthouse and invited a couple random people needing the run along. I did it for free -- I didn't have my character optimized for running, I was just having a good time beating the crap out of a few Charr. I apologized for the relative slowness of the run and explained to our little group that I was helping out my best friend get to the Courthouse (just so there'd be no misunderstandings or irritated players).

Anyway, we all got there, and the only words out of this guy's mouth are "now we run to yaks plz i need it." When I told him that I didn't have time, he dropped without a word. Dude. You're welcome, buddy.

Yeah, people can be rude.

I find I get a lot more out of GW when I expect little and am pleasantly surprised by encountering nice people. That way it doesn't take a lot to impress me, and I generally have a good time. It would be nice to get a thank-you, but at least those people in your group weren't total random jerks.

no indeed they were not, thats why I didn't bother them about it afterwords. They were good, maybe just thinkin about what they gonna do next. I'm just saying I wouldve have been doing the thanking were I a member of that party instead of me.

Ok so here's another one.

I'm playin my mesmer trying to get a skill cap in the iron mines. (i think, the infusion run mission.) Its hard enough to get a group as a mesmer, none of my guildies were on so I was trying to get "mission only" groups because the boss I needed was not on the infusion path. I get a group, and I was very clear that I was in this for the skill cap and that if we do not do infusion run it will take us right to the boss, and as thanks for the help I'd help finish the mission too. Sure enough, we get into the mission and half of the retards suddenly need to do the infusion run. I shouldve just left the group right then, but like a fool I'm willing to still carry on with the group ( turned out I was actually the one to complete the run first and cutscene the dead up ) and do the infusion and do the mission but I explain how I need to go past markis to a very close mesmer boss for the skill cap which is why i'm here. I remind the group as we near markis that we're not done yet according to our agreeance, nope they say FU, hahah we're gonna finish.

How god damned rude is that? After agreeing to help in exchange for mine. I was quite angry, so as they fought the stuff around markis I grabbed the nearest boss (happend to be the ele instead of the mesmer) and drug it over to the fight too. If you wont go with me to one of the bosses I need and fight it, i'll bring it to you. It died, I capped it, and meanwhile markis and friends kick thier asses and mine and they have to start over. Maybe I was out of line draggin the boss over but a deal is a deal.

u were in no way out of line I hate it when people act like that it is rude and imature

they deserve to do the mission 4 or 5 times .....and i dont ever want anyone like that in my group doing thunderhead or any other hard missions

little punks wont take orders from anyone not me not guildies no one that has done it before

i certainly have had player problems like this. just not as often. an eye for an eye is good fun...isn't revenge always?

in your first story, i don't think you should have expected them to thank you for your decision to stick around. either they thought "thank God this guy's sticking around" or they didn't. the few times i've done this, i've never gotten a word of thanks. i've learned not to expect anything from a gaming community.

Indeed, you do things because you want to...and nothing more. The fact that you were cool is beside the point. I'm sure they appreciated the help, but everyone is playing to have fun, even you (If you weren't then it's your fault).

Heck you will never know how many party members that you never thanked expected one...for whatever reason.

...as far as the second story goes, as the ol saying goes: "Two wrongs don't make a right". You should have said that you were leaving if they didn't live up to the agreement and/or been a nice guy and go along with it.

I have to call BULLSNOT on this one: OP stated he was there to help a guildie NOT to have others in party throw compliments or thank you's his way. The fact that he stated this to the group after guildie Err7'd (probably) and that they didn't even offer one word of thanks for sticking it out.....speaks VOLUMES to how self-centered, self-absorbed, EXPECTING the others were. Sure they may have found another monk if they'd been forced to go back, sure they might even have completed mission with 4 but that's not what happened ....what did happen is a member of their party brought to their attention that he/she was not there to do the mission for any other reason than helping his/her guildie (who lost connection)<--that, for any reasonably intelligent person would have told them that the player stayed through to assist them despite having no need to<---a very unselfish thing to do.
I wouldn't EXPECT a thanks but not getting one would burn my ass just the same to think that there are soo many clueless people in the world, devoid of manners, decency and the smallest amount of good will.

I would agree, but this topic is, in essence, focusing on the fact that he didn't recieve the thanks he thought he deserved. As callous as others may be, it's just common sense not to go into something thinking you'll get something out of it, because most of the time, you'll be disappointed. This isn't a debate on humanity, it's basically a complaint that he didn't get what he wanted.

That's fine, of course. We all have times when we are disappointed, and that's part of life, but to bring it up as a topic of public discussion does indeed show that while he altruistically helped in-game, he was concerned more about recieving thanks than he was about feeling comfortable with the fact that he had indeed gone out of his way and helped others, even if they were ingrates.

Wow...
Good deeds are not done to get a reward, they are done out of the goodness of your heart. Getting 'thank you' is nice but if one expects it, they will go through life very unhappy.

I ran a guy that happened to get me on his friends list around the western part of the map. Since it's stupid to run just one person, I offered to run anyone with the party for free - tips accepted of course.

After running to the next town, not even a word of thanks - and a couple even had the gall to ask me to run them further for free.

I don't mind being generous with my time - if I'm bored I'll do stuff for people just to do something. But I hate being taken advantage of, and a thank you would be nice once in a while. If I get run somewhere whether it's for free or not, I always tip generously and say a heartfelt "thank you" for their time and effort.

But I'm old and expect people to be adults in a world dominated by kiddies. That's my problem.

About a month after beating Thunderhead I went back with my W/Mo and finnaly got a party because ijust wanted to do it again. Well apparently no one on the group had a clue what the arrgo circle was. Well after me and 1 monk who knew how to beat it had rezzed them several times we get to the fort area and you have to clear out all those guys then wait half an hour for the waves of three. Well I talked to the monk who said he had done it before and we kept going through the mission and the other tank liked to arrgo a lot so the monk and I came up with an idea to use the enchant, I think undieing aura or something, but rez him with it and everytime he arrgos a group were not ready for we let the enchant go. His responses were so funny WTF hacks, RE Z ME noW stupid Monnnk, and so on. in the end he left we beat it and me and the monk had a good laugh.

Due to my friend's constantly making new characters and never being satisfied with their own I find myself helping them. A lot. Whenever I sit down to run a friend I always give other people chances to join for free, which I did last night.

I was in Augury and decided to run my friend to all six towns so that he would not only get the Co-op's finished for ascension but also make it easy to finish a 15 attribute quest. Before I left Augury only one other person wanted to come with us (it was late, not very busy). As I ran my friend this other guy was AFK or just doing something else. Due to the fact that I hate running from certain areas to others I had quite often requested that we would fast travel to Augury and run again from there. After waiting for twenty minutes this guy finally comes back and apologizes while promising a large tip because I waited. Nice guy? Nadda. End of the run he signs off quickly.

I don't have a problem running for free, that is what it started as. But to not even say thanks when leaving, even without giving me the "large tip" he promised, is down right rude.

I personally am not one to give thanks to someone. That doesn't mean I don't appreciate what they done or take it for granted, it's just not in my nature to do so.

If Ms. Manners slaps me on the back of the head for that, I'm inclined to turn around and give it right back.

When my monk was cap'n elites in fire island chain (missions) I never bailed on the groups once I got my skill(s)(lots of skills to be captured for Mo/N/R/Me/E/W)
man; Ring of Fire and Abbadons mouth over and over high seccess rate...
I still get wispers asking to be in groups.
And dont get me started about Hell's Precipice... I'm a pro puller on that mission, no questions about it.
Last skill she needed to buy was res signet... ALL SKILLS Aquired i should post a video soon about her... for all you haters.

A simple "thank you" is not a "reward" at all - at least not in the way a tip is, since typing in two words DOESN'T COST YOU A THING!. I think even the most lazy person on earth should be mature enough to type in these two words if someone just sacrificed an hour of their time to help them - especially since it takes like 10 seconds to do it.

But sadly enough, you're right - if you expect even this little sign of appreciation for your help, you are going to be utterly disappointed. People probably think they are cool if they trick people into helping them without having to give anything back ever. But building your own fortune upon the expense of others is just the way our whole society is, isn't it? Why should GW be different? *shrugs*

Just don't expect me to have any respect for you (as a player OR as a human) if you don't show the slightest trace of manners - trust me, I don't.

When I run a friend or guildie from Beacon's to Droks I pick up a lot of people for no charge. It does bug me a bit when they drop instantly when we hit Droks without saying thanks.

The problem is that PvE missions are fairly easy, group members are a dime a dozen, and even henchies will get the job done. So most people don't think to thank someone for simply not leaving. In their mind it was you not being a jerk, not that they were being jerks.

ahhh...

i have done this many a time. i have done great northern wall, nolani academy and Elona reach more times than i care to remember. with my healer. i don't expect thanks. i do it because i enjoy those missions. sometimes i get thanked. rarely people actually give me stuff.

on my 10+th time through Thirsty River (with a bloke who said he was pissed with it) i found a gold drop, after finishing they all thaked me and one gave me a superior rune of healing that they found during the mission. the gold drop that i found was a superior absorption.

Karma. The world will thank you for your goodness. have patience. You Will have Your reward in this World or the Next. Have Faith.

^Agreed. For every person you help out there who offers no thanks
or even acknowledgement there's at least 1 other person who will.

Just a law of averages.