Female players playing male characters?
Seissor
:-o but the female ele has the BEST taunt EVA!
mdredge
They let girls in!!!
Yukito Kunisaki
I don't see a problem with who picks what really so long as they don't die in 3 seconds and know what they're doing.
I personally would never pick a female character unless I got something REALLLLYY good out of it.
My wife played a Ranger girl and I'm fine looking at her.
My main character is the shortest model warrior with venom green armor [shineys] and blond hair...
Bah* ^_^
I personally would never pick a female character unless I got something REALLLLYY good out of it.
My wife played a Ranger girl and I'm fine looking at her.
My main character is the shortest model warrior with venom green armor [shineys] and blond hair...
Bah* ^_^
Zephyr Jackson
I have 2 Male and 2 female characters.
Guy look best: Warrior, Necro, Monk
Girls look best: Ranger Ele, Mesmer
End of Discussion
Guy look best: Warrior, Necro, Monk
Girls look best: Ranger Ele, Mesmer
End of Discussion
Dax
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Originally Posted by Roza
So, judging by the reactions so far, it seems that - practical reasons aside - girls play males to:
1. Have the the best looking character 2. avoid guys oggling them While guys play girl to 1. Look at the most appealing character 2. have other guys oggling them Something about Mars and Venus comes to mind.  And I know, I am not being fair to a lot of guys now. |
From my perspective, I don't really care who is behind the avatar and I don't tell people my personal vital stats. It's a game, it just so happens I'd rather stare at a female character.
kawaii_bat
Guys have less trouble role-playing females because they have less of something we ladies have *too* much of: empathy, outerward-relating and outward-percepting.
Empathy: Being able to completely immerse yourself in the emotional viewpoitn of someone else. Sometimes even feeling the actual emotions of others.
Everyone's seen this: Something great happens to one of two girls, both girls equally scream in joy! One women says she lost someone dear in their family and both of them cry at a point where you can't tell which one actually lost the family member!
Outwards-relating: When someone hears a story and feels bad and/or understands completely what that person is going through even though they've never had any experience close to it.
Outwards-perception: Being able to understand why someone acts a certain way they do and what beleifs cause this. That's why female doctors and psychologists are sometimes much more efficient that men. They can understand other viewpoints a little too well.
Alot of women have this overwhelming insight over other people's emotions and feelings, some are better than others and some just don't have it them but fact is that when they play male avatars they just feel....strange.
Men have the stoic inner confidence and pride going for them and are most of the time blunt, unafraid of self-expression etc...
So playing female avatars is no big deal at all.
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I just *can't* play a male avatar because when I do, I feel estranged, i feel like I have to act differently and... I just can't!
For some women this is an overwhelming experience. For others they don't feel it at all. But a great majority of us just don't....feel right playing male characters. End of story
Empathy: Being able to completely immerse yourself in the emotional viewpoitn of someone else. Sometimes even feeling the actual emotions of others.
Everyone's seen this: Something great happens to one of two girls, both girls equally scream in joy! One women says she lost someone dear in their family and both of them cry at a point where you can't tell which one actually lost the family member!
Outwards-relating: When someone hears a story and feels bad and/or understands completely what that person is going through even though they've never had any experience close to it.
Outwards-perception: Being able to understand why someone acts a certain way they do and what beleifs cause this. That's why female doctors and psychologists are sometimes much more efficient that men. They can understand other viewpoints a little too well.
Alot of women have this overwhelming insight over other people's emotions and feelings, some are better than others and some just don't have it them but fact is that when they play male avatars they just feel....strange.
Men have the stoic inner confidence and pride going for them and are most of the time blunt, unafraid of self-expression etc...
So playing female avatars is no big deal at all.
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I just *can't* play a male avatar because when I do, I feel estranged, i feel like I have to act differently and... I just can't!
For some women this is an overwhelming experience. For others they don't feel it at all. But a great majority of us just don't....feel right playing male characters. End of story
Teufel Eldritch
I would rather play with female players whether or not they are playing as a female in the game. Female players, generally, handle themselves better, are more mature, are friendlier, appreciative, courteous & less inclined to spew garbage out of thier mouths.
Sofonisba
<---Female IRL, all female characters.
Sure, I get the "take ur close of" from those wanting cheap thrills, but I just tell them they don't have enough money to pay for it.
It's all fantasy... and my fantasy is to be petite and cute, or tall and elegantly beautiful, or what-have-you. My fantasy is not to play a male, but that's me.
And yes, I will always refer to someone as He/She depending on their model. It is very shocking when people are offended by that: a female monk shouting "I'm a dude!" when you refer to her as "her." What's with that? Either play your character or don't.
Sure, I get the "take ur close of" from those wanting cheap thrills, but I just tell them they don't have enough money to pay for it.
It's all fantasy... and my fantasy is to be petite and cute, or tall and elegantly beautiful, or what-have-you. My fantasy is not to play a male, but that's me.
And yes, I will always refer to someone as He/She depending on their model. It is very shocking when people are offended by that: a female monk shouting "I'm a dude!" when you refer to her as "her." What's with that? Either play your character or don't.
dansamy
I am also a woman IRL, but I have a male monk....why? I wanted to name him for the patron saint of lost causes (good name for a monk, right?). Well, that is Saint Jude. Jude is not, IMO, a female's name. And so my monk had to be male in order for me to name the character what I wanted it to be. And yes, I do view healing moronic Wa/Mos who feel the need to aggro 4 groups at once to be a lost cause. That's why Jude is now a prot mok. 
Celdor Nailo
what does IRL stand for?
over the years i have started only a few female characters and i always end up deleting them. simply put, it feels weird for me to run anything but a male character since i'm a guy.
over the years i have started only a few female characters and i always end up deleting them. simply put, it feels weird for me to run anything but a male character since i'm a guy.
dansamy
IRL = in REAL life, as in when you actually turn off the PC and are AFK. You know that place that has REAL sunshine and grass and a breeze blowing?
Sofonisba
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what does IRL stand for?
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IG/IGN: In-Game, In-Game Name
Celdor Nailo
LOL
i often read a post on a message board and think to myself, "that person needs to get off his/her computer and read a book!"
i often read a post on a message board and think to myself, "that person needs to get off his/her computer and read a book!"
Arturo02
I almost want to create a female char named Holla Back Girl just to see what the guys in the game will do lol.
Arturo02
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IRL = in REAL life, as in when you actually turn off the PC and are AFK. You know that place that has REAL sunshine and grass and a breeze blowing?
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Spura
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Originally Posted by kawaii_bat
Everyone's seen this: Something great happens to one of two girls, both girls equally scream in joy!
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Originally Posted by kawaii_bat
Outwards-perception: Being able to understand why someone acts a certain way they do and what beleifs cause this. That's why female doctors and psychologists are sometimes much more efficient that men. They can understand other viewpoints a little too well.
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T0rnDegree
Hi i'm a male and I wanted to test in GW how i would be treated as a Female... Surprisling i was getting Quest done alot more faster when people accepted my request for joining my mission's.. Yet when i logged on my male.. I was getting go do it your self you lazzy bumm.. or something and i was like well some of the quest are very hard with henchman... i feel some reason People respond more to the female characters more politly .. I've had help on my new Ranger/necro tho. I guess it all depends on what time you play the game.
Roza
"Guys have less trouble role-playing females because they have less of something we ladies have *too* much of: empathy, outerward-relating and outward-percepting."
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"Men have the stoic inner confidence and pride going for them and are most of the time blunt, unafraid of self-expression etc...
So playing female avatars is no big deal at all."
Yes, I think it must be something like that. The first real answer I received to my original post's second question btw (typical how men interpret this question as one about armor and stuff
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My guess is that women on average care more about how they come across and feel that they should not misrepresent themselves or try playing a role that does not suit them. Men, on averega, just don't care that much about that sort of thing.
"I often read a post on a message board and think to myself, "that person needs to get off his/her computer and read a book!"
Why, I can point you to few shelves full of books about just this sort of topic. Just look for 'gender studies' in any university library. But I am about to finish a good book, so if you are going to take time away from reading to make such a pointless point, please include your book recommendations.
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"Men have the stoic inner confidence and pride going for them and are most of the time blunt, unafraid of self-expression etc...
So playing female avatars is no big deal at all."
Yes, I think it must be something like that. The first real answer I received to my original post's second question btw (typical how men interpret this question as one about armor and stuff
My guess is that women on average care more about how they come across and feel that they should not misrepresent themselves or try playing a role that does not suit them. Men, on averega, just don't care that much about that sort of thing.
"I often read a post on a message board and think to myself, "that person needs to get off his/her computer and read a book!"
Why, I can point you to few shelves full of books about just this sort of topic. Just look for 'gender studies' in any university library.
But I am about to finish a good book, so if you are going to take time away from reading to make such a pointless point, please include your book recommendations.
Seissor
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Originally Posted by dansamy
IRL = in REAL life, as in when you actually turn off the PC and are AFK. You know that place that has REAL sunshine and grass and a breeze blowing?
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and in real life, ppl dont wander around saying IRL...do they? =^ . ^=
Mimi Miyagi
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and in real life, ppl dont wander around saying IRL...do they? =^ . ^=
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Aelice
My main character is a male ranger! Why? He's a cutie! I dont want to stare at a girl's tooshie all day. In MMORPGs, I always crossdress.
In MMORPGs, I always crossdress.
Seissor
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Originally Posted by Mimi Miyagi
Sure they do. You've never had a father yelling in your face "Just wait until you get out in the real world and have to get a real job with real responsibilities?
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they say in real life...they dont say lol, irl.
they laugh ha ha ha, and say in real life. im talking about lack of abbreviations as common language.
C U =^ . ^=
lyra_song
i think the only character i would ever make as a male would be a necro.
o.o cause they have such a cool dance~
o.o cause they have such a cool dance~
Dax
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Men have the stoic inner confidence and pride going for them and are most of the time blunt, unafraid of self-expression etc... So playing female avatars is no big deal at all. |
Yes, us guys are not afraid of self explression.
Aelice
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<So that explains why men often go to the bathroom in twos, have no problem trying on clothes together, and kissing when the mood arises.
Yes, us guys are not afraid of self explression. |
I know plenty of girls who find going to the restroom in groups annoying.
I also know plenty of self-concious girls who dont like to change in front of their friends. I personally have no shame, but lots do. :P
Obsiedion
is it my imagination or has this thread just turned into a "battle of the sexes"?
Is it really that important? Sure allot of guys are immature, insensitive, speak inappropriatly, and are often obnoxious, but I think your kind of loosing out on something by generalising it to be "Men are not empathic" "Men are all proud and ignorant". Not all of us are. I know some women who wolf whistle when I guy goes past, are so insensitive its untrue, and certainly don't care about any kind of appropriation or lack there of in a situation. I also know ones that are prim and proper ladies, I don't generalise the whole of womankind biased on the tiny sample I happen to know.
More to the point of the thread, I certainly wouldn't judge someone based on a pixelated character they created. Sometimes we read altogether far too much into things, "Why male/female play female/male characters is probably one of those subjects. IMHO.
Obs
P.s "Once" by James Herbert if anyone really does want a good read. Just finished it. LOL
Is it really that important? Sure allot of guys are immature, insensitive, speak inappropriatly, and are often obnoxious, but I think your kind of loosing out on something by generalising it to be "Men are not empathic" "Men are all proud and ignorant". Not all of us are. I know some women who wolf whistle when I guy goes past, are so insensitive its untrue, and certainly don't care about any kind of appropriation or lack there of in a situation. I also know ones that are prim and proper ladies, I don't generalise the whole of womankind biased on the tiny sample I happen to know.
More to the point of the thread, I certainly wouldn't judge someone based on a pixelated character they created. Sometimes we read altogether far too much into things, "Why male/female play female/male characters is probably one of those subjects. IMHO.
Obs
P.s "Once" by James Herbert if anyone really does want a good read. Just finished it. LOL
Xenrath
All these male/female char things boil down to one simple fact: sex. I don't mean gender either... anyone with half a braincell will know why :P (think behaviour patterns if you don't get it..)
fiery
i made a gurl ranger simple cause to much males in my charc invent....i am a guy who plays a gurl charc..i would delete her but i have way to much stuff on her....all elites...and u would say go make a PVP..i would.. but than i wouldnt have my uber solo trapper in UW anymore. haha i wanted to remake her just cause of her hair...but got to lazy to go get around all the places and skills again..soo i just stayed on her.
gurls does have better emotes as well...and tired of seeing so many sauasage fests everwhere......might be all guys in real life..but lets influence some gurl charcs to even out the festival ^^
to that sex comment....dude if u get off from a charc in a game....u got problems. i would say either the wayyyy old old old guys(talking to u creepy pedo guys) or maybe those pubescent tiddly winks kids who just got there first hair on there ball sack and having an grand old time on a chick charc. haha and i just noticed the gurls in my guild..(never play a male charc) hah thats weird.
i also noticed that..female charcs r mostly PVP rerolled charcs...and a few PVE...or mayb thats just me.
gurls does have better emotes as well...and tired of seeing so many sauasage fests everwhere......might be all guys in real life..but lets influence some gurl charcs to even out the festival ^^
to that sex comment....dude if u get off from a charc in a game....u got problems. i would say either the wayyyy old old old guys(talking to u creepy pedo guys) or maybe those pubescent tiddly winks kids who just got there first hair on there ball sack and having an grand old time on a chick charc. haha and i just noticed the gurls in my guild..(never play a male charc) hah thats weird.
i also noticed that..female charcs r mostly PVP rerolled charcs...and a few PVE...or mayb thats just me.
Xenrath
I never said I get off to it lol :P It's psychology, most hetero males are programmed genetically in such a way their behaviour changes subtlley and not so subtley towards females, real or perceived. It's biological fact. It also works with women, though your comment is telling also
nebucanezar
This thread is nonsense. I have two female chars and two male chars. I have no ideal why i made two females and two males. I dodnt bother to pick out their looks and what or bee overly specific in designing them i just picked the template made them either tall or short and went on with the rest of it. It was that cut and dry. People are always trying to read between the lines and often times forgetting that there is nothing to read there. Just a thought.
Just a thought.
Dax
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No offense, but what fantasy world are you living in? XD
I know plenty of girls who find going to the restroom in groups annoying. I also know plenty of self-concious girls who dont like to change in front of their friends. I personally have no shame, but lots do. :P |
But having said that, ladies have much less problems (atleast I have seen) in these areas then men do....and I wasn't talking about girls gone wild make out sessions.
Roza
Well, seems girl mostly play girls in the game, except for necro's and rangers, because the male models just look really good (and they do )
Also, it seems that a thread about female players will be turned quickly into one about male players playing female characters (there was a seperate thread about that, really). Mostly, guys don't seem to care and think that finding psychological reasons for character choice is irrelevant. Example:
"This thread is nonsense. I have two female chars and two male chars. ... i just picked the template made them either tall or short and went on with the rest of it. It was that cut and dry. People are always trying to read between the lines and often times forgetting that there is nothing to read there."
This very male reply sort of sums it up. For a guy there is nothing to read between the lines. But women do read between the lines, sometimes forgetting to pay attention to the the actual lines themselves. Guys think there really is nothing between the lines, while women insist there is and that guys are just too insensitive to see it.
Of course, there are loads of people to whom this generalization does not apply (that is why it is a generalization).
)Also, it seems that a thread about female players will be turned quickly into one about male players playing female characters (there was a seperate thread about that, really). Mostly, guys don't seem to care and think that finding psychological reasons for character choice is irrelevant. Example:
"This thread is nonsense. I have two female chars and two male chars. ... i just picked the template made them either tall or short and went on with the rest of it. It was that cut and dry. People are always trying to read between the lines and often times forgetting that there is nothing to read there."
This very male reply sort of sums it up. For a guy there is nothing to read between the lines. But women do read between the lines, sometimes forgetting to pay attention to the the actual lines themselves. Guys think there really is nothing between the lines, while women insist there is and that guys are just too insensitive to see it.
Of course, there are loads of people to whom this generalization does not apply (that is why it is a generalization).
Mandy Memory
if i make an arena tank i usually make it male...hehe (idk it just doesnt look right unless its the 9ft tall guy getting hit by 4 people constantly)
Alexandrite
I'm a girl, and I have 3 female characters 1 male character, I mainly play the females though. My boyfriend plays all female characters, he just prefers it that way I guess, I mean if I were him, I wouldnt want to stare at, say, a male warrior's arse all 20 levels either! ;P
In other games my characters are generally more 50%/50%. When they add more slots, mine will probably approach the 50% female 50% male mark too... I think male Rangers or Mesmers are probably the best looking.
When I started playing Asheron's Call 2, it was my first game so I didn't know what level of maturity to expect from other players, so I spent the first month or so roleplaying as a male character. Later on as I got to know the people I played with more, I said, meh, dropped the pretenses and switched to playing a female character as well. I did get hit on a lot though in that game, it was rather annoying, and in GW not very often. Though in GW there were a few times when some random idiot pestered me asking if I was a girl iRL or not, I just learned to ignore them. with GW's huge population, it's not very likely you will run into the same arsehats twice...
In other games my characters are generally more 50%/50%. When they add more slots, mine will probably approach the 50% female 50% male mark too... I think male Rangers or Mesmers are probably the best looking.
When I started playing Asheron's Call 2, it was my first game so I didn't know what level of maturity to expect from other players, so I spent the first month or so roleplaying as a male character. Later on as I got to know the people I played with more, I said, meh, dropped the pretenses and switched to playing a female character as well. I did get hit on a lot though in that game, it was rather annoying, and in GW not very often. Though in GW there were a few times when some random idiot pestered me asking if I was a girl iRL or not, I just learned to ignore them.
with GW's huge population, it's not very likely you will run into the same arsehats twice...
Lilac Illyria
I've got nothing to hide as a woman. And nothing to gain from pretending to be male.
cosyfiep
I am a woman and I have 5 characters, 4 are female and one is male. I didnt like the female monk so I made a male one. I liked the female ele, necro and mesmer better than the males mostly for the armor.........and my most recent is a rit female---just couldnt get by the skirt they made the males wear!
My husband plays about 50/50 mostly for the same reason---the male characters arent very appealing to him...so his ranger, ele and 'zin are all female, his warrior (created when I made my first ele) is male---and butt ugly in both our opinions. He has deleted the other males (dont remember what they were).
My husband plays about 50/50 mostly for the same reason---the male characters arent very appealing to him...so his ranger, ele and 'zin are all female, his warrior (created when I made my first ele) is male---and butt ugly in both our opinions. He has deleted the other males (dont remember what they were).
LifeInfusion
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The only thing that really matters is the relative level of compotence of the individual on the other end of the line.
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My reasoning for the playing of a different gender than you yourself are is unique from other people.
I've played both as male and female characters in the beta. People were all nice and stuff when I played as a female character. I guess I like being verbally abused, because all my characters are male thus far. It is usually funny (to me at least) when someone screams "noob" in all caps when they are aggroing 50 million monsters and you are doing your job/profession right. (Never was I insulted playing as a female character.)
Back on topic. I MIGHT make a Rt female, but that is because male Rt looks REALLY weird with the skirt thing going on and the bone chain things (all the armor has a skirt-lookalike). In other words, sometimes even if you do want to play as your gender, the character models/faces/hair/armor turn you away. Ranger male, for example has hair that looks like you haven't showered or shaved for about 5 months something.
It is all about how much of a turnoff your own gender is for the character you are making. For example, the monks have only one or two hairstyles that are used by the general public (bald, two buns with ribbons) and male monks with ascetics leggings look sort of ...weird...
Vargs
I knew a woman who played a male Tauren in WoW because she thought they looked cute 
As a guy, I'll generally lean towards male characters unless there's something I dislike about the way they look. For example, my warrior is female, as I think male warriors look kinda stupid, and I hate all of their armor but platemail. I also have a female necro, because I'm not a big fan of how male necros look. My monk and ranger are male (and I'm thinking of deleting the ranger for a male elementalist).
As a guy, I'll generally lean towards male characters unless there's something I dislike about the way they look. For example, my warrior is female, as I think male warriors look kinda stupid, and I hate all of their armor but platemail. I also have a female necro, because I'm not a big fan of how male necros look. My monk and ranger are male (and I'm thinking of deleting the ranger for a male elementalist).
allience
i'm a girl and i play female chars. the reason is that i don't like the male chars that much. most of them look gay (body or armor) or have awful looking faces. i'm not too happy about the female chars hair and faces but at least their body and armor is nice.
i wish gw had more options with faces/hair, even costumizeable ones. i specially hate asymetric hair/armor, so popular in factions.
i wish gw had more options with faces/hair, even costumizeable ones. i specially hate asymetric hair/armor, so popular in factions.
pyrohex
My aesthetic prefers the leaner bodies of women. Body builders always scare me. Hot girls don't.