Europe can't win because of bad teamplay

Mumoto

Mumoto

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Join Date: Sep 2005

The Netherlands

N/Mo

Europe can't win because of bad teamplay.

Does any European know what teamplay is ?

I am a European and I will co-op with anyone, but they never discuss tactics or anything.

Don't ask me for making tactics because I don't know what skills everybody should use... nor do I think I'm capable to be the leader.

Esuna

Esuna

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Mo/

That's a huge generalization... That may be your experience but not everyone else's. Europe has had groups that held HoH before, so I won't go as far as to say "Europe can't win." You don't think there are people of other countries that don't do the exact same thing you've described? C'mon, heh.

jonnybegood

jonnybegood

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

huh?

The Final Exodus[FX]

i think it is also more difficult for you all because of the diversity of your languages. you have several languages where you play, while U.S. and Korea have one primary language.

Mumoto

Mumoto

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2005

The Netherlands

N/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Esuna
That's a huge generalization... That may be your experience but not everyone else's. Europe has had groups that held HoH before, so I won't go as far as to say "Europe can't win." You don't think there are people of other countries that don't do the exact same thing you've described? C'mon, heh.
Those are guilds 1-5 guilds that are holding it for Europe, the rest of Europe doesn't know what teamwork is, Never had a party that even tried to discuss tactics.

Divine Elemental

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mumoto
Those are guilds 1-5 guilds that are holding it for Europe, the rest of Europe doesn't know what teamwork is, Never had a party that even tried to discuss tactics.
I Wont Start Anything I Got A Warning....
Mods Pls Close Before It Starts Problems T.T

Lasareth

Lasareth

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Join Date: Jun 2005

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Just a forewarning to everyone, since the other topic got out of hand:

Please refrain from flaming other users. If you don't agree with an idea, state your reasons why, without colorful words, and support your side of the argument logically.

If we can keep it clean we might learn something.

Alone)

Alone)

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Join Date: Sep 2005

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Legio Imortalii

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Mumoto, I suggest you be careful. You already got one referral, and a close topic in one night.

Really though, it feels like the previous posts weren't helpful to you at all. And Europe does know teamplay. I'll repeat myself for more than 5 posts:

Patience, and experience. You really should play more and not expect that much so soon. If you really feel that the people you join with don't know about team play, why don't you get people together who can?

chris_nin00

chris_nin00

Dun dun dun

Join Date: Aug 2005

Reddit Guild

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Bad teamplay happens everywhere buddy...

Get over it.

Mumoto

Mumoto

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Join Date: Sep 2005

The Netherlands

N/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by chris_nin00
Bad teamplay happens everywhere buddy...

Get over it.
Can't ... am too competetive to let this just get over me.

chippxero

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norfolk

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Do you try to discuss tactics before going in, are you playing with the same group of people or just randoms?

You'd be better grouping with one set of people a lot as you'd be able to see where the team needs adjusting skills wise and whats going wrong.

Once you have teamwork down it's then down to the tactics other groups use against you and not just due to your team being naff.

defrule

defrule

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Join Date: Oct 2005

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are you pugging? I've never been in pugs which plan either. Thats why i only do runs with my guild now. We are european and we appreciate it when we come up against really good builds. We learn from them and try to log it in our forums.

Divine Elemental

Divine Elemental

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Join Date: May 2005

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mumoto
Can't ... am too competetive to let this just get over me.
Competiton Arena is a place for you
not tombs as for your experience is limited for now
u have only tried 10 times and complaining now

CowPoop

CowPoop

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Join Date: Oct 2005

lol when i was on the homepage, it says "Europe cant win because of bad tea lol, also, all the good europeons (if ur talkign about tombs) are in the int. districts and just groups up with ne groups

chris_nin00

chris_nin00

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mumoto
Can't ... am too competetive to let this just get over me.
Take up a sport?

CowPoop

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Join Date: Oct 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Alone)
Mumoto, I suggest you be careful. You already got one referral, and a close topic in one night.

Really though, it feels like the previous posts weren't helpful to you at all. And Europe does know teamplay. I'll repeat myself for more than 5 posts:

Patience, and experience. You really should play more and not expect that much so soon. If you really feel that the people you join with don't know about team play, why don't you get people together who can?
referall is a good thing, it means that one other person joined guru (was told about it from mumoto)

Mumoto

Mumoto

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Join Date: Sep 2005

The Netherlands

N/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by chippxero
Do you try to discuss tactics before going in, are you playing with the same group of people or just randoms?

You'd be better grouping with one set of people a lot as you'd be able to see where the team needs adjusting skills wise and whats going wrong.

Once you have teamwork down it's then down to the tactics other groups use against you and not just due to your team being naff.
I do, but nobody listens and everybody leaves if they lose once.

chris_nin00

chris_nin00

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Don't you have any real life friends that can play with you?

Mumoto

Mumoto

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The Netherlands

N/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by chris_nin00
Take up a sport?
Games = my sport.


Quote:
Originally Posted by Divine Elemental
Competiton Arena is a place for you
not tombs as for your experience is limited for now
u have only tried 10 times and complaining now
Is that helping me get experience in HoH ... no, so it's a useless idea.

Quote:
Originally Posted by chris_nin00
Don't you have any real life friends that can play with you?
I don't have friends.

chippxero

chippxero

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norfolk

Super Anti Rabbit Squad [SARS]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mumoto
I do, but nobody listens and everybody leaves if they lose once.
You need to get yourself in a good guild, this way you'll meet players that will play over and over also guild members are much more likely to discuss things like tactics.

There are thousands of guild out there recuiting, check one out and see how it is for a while. (this is all assuming you're not in a guild already)

Mumoto

Mumoto

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Join Date: Sep 2005

The Netherlands

N/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by chippxero
You need to get yourself in a good guild, this way you'll meet players that will play over and over also guild members are much more likely to discuss things like tactics.

There are thousands of guild out there recuiting, check one out and see how it is for a while. (this is all assuming you're not in a guild already)
I was in a Dutch guild, but most guilds don't even listen to what I say ... it's like they're ignoring me or something.

Trying to find a Dutch guild or any other active guilds.

Mormegil

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

Find a good guild/people to play with that are in organized competent guilds.

Oh and many more european Pugs do win, so I don't see your point: you probably found the wrong pugs to begin with. Last holding figures: Europe>Korea>Usa, there's a thread around here from that nice guy that calculates those wonderful stats.

chris_nin00

chris_nin00

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Join Date: Aug 2005

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mumoto
Games = my sport.
get a guild. It's more organized than a pick up group.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mumoto
I don't have friends
... Go to Mcdonalds, yeah that's right get out of the house, and buy a big mac, start a conversation with the hot cashier and you are good to go.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mumoto
I was in a Dutch guild, but most guilds don't even listen to what I say ... it's like they're ignoring me or something.

Trying to find a Dutch guild or any other active guilds.
It's like house hunting Mumoto...
find a guild until you die or you fuse to the computer seat.
Otherwise you'll get no where.

Mumoto

Mumoto

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Join Date: Sep 2005

The Netherlands

N/Mo

Well finding a guild is hard, everytime I join a guild which is supposed to be active has around 30 members and most of them haven't been on for 3+ months.


Oh yeah International Districts are funny .... can't even get in a party because everyone is expecting me to have atleast rank 2..

How can you get rank 2 if you never have a party that wins and if nobody accepts you in their party?

Alone)

Alone)

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Join Date: Sep 2005

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Legio Imortalii

W/Mo

All I can say right now is that you need to work on patience. Execpting too much too soon is bad thing. Also, you have to learn to also be open-minded as well to other ideas. As in instead of saying that the people you join suck, go out and start a group of your own and achieve more experience. Learn how different it is to do HoH than CA.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mumoto
How can you get rank 2 if you never have a party that wins and if nobody accepts you in their party?
Easy. Play a lot more.

Mormegil

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Join Date: May 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mumoto
Games = my sport.
I don't have friends.
Hey, WHY IN THE NAME OF THE HOLY MOTHER AM I POSTING ON THE WOW FORUMS?

Oh, wait.

I'm not in the WoW forums, I'm on gwguru. Sheesh...I guess I'm fine.

Those two quotes up there played a trick on me. Sorry. Heh.

Mumoto

Mumoto

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Join Date: Sep 2005

The Netherlands

N/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Alone)
All I can say right now is that you need to work on patience. Execpting too much too soon is bad thing. Also, you have to learn to also be open-minded as well to other ideas. As in instead of saying that the people you join suck, go out and start a group of your own and achieve more experience. Learn how different it is to do HoH than CA.
I can't get experience if the groups I try to make break up before I finish making them or if nobody accepts me in their group

It seems like the groups that accept me are the groups that are going to lose.

Divine Elemental

Divine Elemental

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A Grashopper Must Hop
Before It Flies ( Does It Fly ? )

Well That Thing I Mean
Patience Is A Must In PvP

Mumoto

Mumoto

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Join Date: Sep 2005

The Netherlands

N/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Divine Elemental
A Grashopper Must Hop
Before It Flies ( Does It Fly ? )

Well That Thing I Mean
Patience Is A Must In PvP

I don't have patience and when my patience runs out I become mad.

Divine Elemental

Divine Elemental

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mumoto
I don't have patience and when my patience runs out I become mad.
PvP Isnt Easy As Pie
If U Dotn Have Patience
Quit PvP

chris_nin00

chris_nin00

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This grasshopper is impatient elemental...
A bad quality for leadership.

Monseir

Monseir

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IM da shiznit

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W/Mo

From the home page all i saw was "Europeans can't win because of bad tea...."

Alone)

Alone)

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W/Mo

Don't think he was bringing up flaming, Mumoto. More like he's trying to get you a bit more open-minded. I see it that way, anyways. I've still said start your own groups. And that way you are more likely to get used to it more. And my previous statement about learning patience, you know.

Divine Elemental

Divine Elemental

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Alone)
Don't think he was bringing up flaming, Mumoto. More like he's trying to get you a bit more open-minded. I see it that way, anyways. I've still said start your own groups. And that way you are more likely to get used to it more. And my previous statement about learning patience, you know.
We are telling you how to play in pvp
yet you dont accept them
ive been playing hoh for quite awhile and i have a wide exp about it
but i see that you dont need any.
you just reject and start over

Guillaume De Sonoma

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Apr 2005

aFk

Me/Rt

What ever happened to hecies in PvE I got through half of hell's pricipate with them. And as far as Tombs go be patient or get a good guild you don't have anyother choices, unless your a monk then everyone likes you.

chris_nin00

chris_nin00

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Divine Elemental
We are telling you how to play in pvp
yet you dont accept them
ive been playing hoh for quite awhile and i have a wide exp about it
but i see that you dont need any.
you just reject and start over
Mumoto in a nutshell...

Divine Elemental

Divine Elemental

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Guillaume De Sonoma
What ever happened to hecies in PvE I got through half of hell's pricipate with them. And as far as Tombs go be patient or get a good guild you don't have anyother choices, unless your a monk then everyone likes you.
Disagree on Monk Everyone Likes you ;D
although others are all correct

Mumoto

Mumoto

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Join Date: Sep 2005

The Netherlands

N/Mo

Please post in this thread if you are atleast 15 years or older, below that are incapable of reading it seems.

I am not capable of playing leader and I've mentioned it many times, do you have to say it over and over again that I'm not capable? It's stupid because I know, thank you very much.


I'm not expecting to win right away, but ehm... if every party I've been in can't even kill 1 .. it must be really bad ... don't you think?

Divine Elemental

Divine Elemental

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mumoto
Please post in this thread if you are atleast 15 years or older, below that are incapable of reading it seems.

I am not capable of playing leader and I've mentioned it many times, do you have to say it over and over again that I'm not capable? It's stupid because I know, thank you very much.


I'm not expecting to win right away, but ehm... if every party I've been in can't even kill 1 .. it must be really bad ... don't you think?
im 13 So Mainly your saying wer dumb yet we dominate /roar
well stay to topic
we are telling you how to play
u dont need to reject and ask for other help if you keep on rejecting it
its like a big round circle. if you want results start playing more
go pugs get a guild
no more chance

and 10 battles no hoh win?
it took me more than 10 battles to win my first hoh

Mumoto

Mumoto

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2005

The Netherlands

N/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Divine Elemental
im 13 So Mainly your saying wer dumb yet we dominate /roar
well stay to topic
we are telling you how to play
u dont need to reject and ask for other help if you keep on rejecting it
its like a big round circle. if you want results start playing more
go pugs get a guild
no more chance
Once again, read first post.... age up 2 years and come back thank you

I am not saying you're dumb but incapable of reading which has nothing to do with being dumb.

chris_nin00

chris_nin00

Dun dun dun

Join Date: Aug 2005

Reddit Guild

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I'm 5 years old! Got a problem?

Maybe it's you, maybe you can't play... that's probably why you lose so much.